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yarismaris
05-25-2009, 08:52 PM
These quick oil change place salways claim they "lube" your car. I thought lube nipples and lube points went away in the 1970s? Does anything on our Yaris need lube, or is it a ripoff?

AlexNet0
05-25-2009, 08:58 PM
I haven't seen one yet, but I am not a mechanic

The little red pill
05-25-2009, 10:42 PM
Sometimes they lube your parking brake cable. I like it when they lube my parking brake cable! :wub:

MUSKOKA800
05-26-2009, 08:33 AM
Yes, rather misleading. Like those shops that offer seasonal maintenance packages which include a tune-up (parts extra charge). WHAT'S TO 'TUNE-UP' SINCE ELECTRONIC IGNITION AND EFI CAME ABOUT DECADES AGO?
Thanks, but keep your greasy fingers off!

MadMax
05-26-2009, 11:06 AM
They are called zerk fittings and some vehicles, such as my 2005 Jeep, still have them. However, I have yet to see any on my Yaris and even if they did exist; I wouldn't want some hamfisted bozo at these quick lube places to overfill them as that makes quite a mess (this from experience).

jambo101
05-26-2009, 11:21 AM
Recommend staying away from those Quick Lube places as they can be amazingly incompetent.

yarismaris
05-26-2009, 11:26 AM
Thanks very much guys and gals. I do my own oil changes, but always wondered if I needed to "lube" anything. Any definitive answer on if Yaris has zerk fittings?

yarismaris
05-26-2009, 07:11 PM
I am finding it very difficult to find any information anywhere online about the Yaris having zerk fittings. I can call dealer tomorrow, but does anone know for sure? Thanks.

GeneW
05-26-2009, 07:23 PM
They are called zerk fittings and some vehicles, such as my 2005 Jeep, still have them. However, I have yet to see any on my Yaris and even if they did exist; I wouldn't want some hamfisted bozo at these quick lube places to overfill them as that makes quite a mess (this from experience).

In the bad old days when grease fittings were common sometimes people would over fill the joints, causing them to "burst" or unseat. This allowed water to get in and caused accelerated wear. You especialy were taking your chances with tie-rod ends and upper ball joints, which would accumulate water if they opened up.

A good mechanic will give just enough to push some grease out of a slot cut in the boot for that purpose and no more.

Tune up? The Yaris has no points, breakers or anything that could be adjusted. A mechanic might test the oxygen sensor and other emission components to see if they're close to failure. Another good idea would be to check the catalytic converter for plugging by measuring back pressure. Just to check a oxygen sensor is time consuming and may not even be necessary in OBD-II units.

Aside filters, alignment and consumables like tires and wiper blades the Yaris is close to maintenance free.

Gene

MadMax
05-26-2009, 07:24 PM
I have been all under my Yaris and have yet to see a zerk fitting!

On the Jeep, they look like this:

http://jeep.us41.org/lube/rightwheel.jpg

It's a small metal nipple that usually has a rubber "donut" behind it (the reservoir that holds the grease, they expands when you add it).

Remember the Jeep is mostly 1940s' technology, hence the zerks. The Yaris is 21st Century, so you won't see 'em!

Cheers! M2

GeneW
05-26-2009, 07:34 PM
Recommend staying away from those Quick Lube places as they can be amazingly incompetent.

My last boss in dialysis was a character we called "Jiffy Lube Jack". Before he started as a foot soldier in dialysis he was a Jiffy Lube manager. He was hired on the "management track" and once a not for profit operation opened up nearby a few dissidents set up shop, taking Jack along for a management position.

For years he earned in the low $40,000 range to work seven hours a day, drink himself each evening into a near stupor and then come to work "hung over". Jack had a bad drinking and gambling problem. One day he announced that he would no longer cover Saturdays because he was taking a second job to pay for his gambling habit. Not long thereafter a buddy called me up for a job in R&D. Sayonara, Jack.

His other claim to fame was refusing to push for NANT (National Association of Nephrology Technicians) training because he didn't want some of his subordinates to "get ideas". These kids had the most bizarre ideas about how to repair things. One of them created a "ground strap" out of wire - you're supposed to have some resistance in a ground strap for safety purposes but the boy figured "less is more". I used to call it his "employee intelligence improvement device", if it killed him the aggregate IQ of the staff would rise sharply.

As far as I know Jack is still there, muddling along, and getting ripped several nights a week, coming home, having fist fights with his kids and then sacking out. The fights were extraordinary, sometimes the kids would get knocked out or put through walls. He'd come in banged up talking about how he had to "straighten one of them out" but he sounded concerned that they were "growing larger" and would one day, "knock me on the my ass".

I'll never go to one of those places... they put rot gut oil into your car and hire whoever will work for the wages they pay. Apparently their managers aren't much better.

Gene

yarismaris
05-26-2009, 07:51 PM
Wow. That is good to know.

The little red pill
05-26-2009, 08:11 PM
For years he earned in the low $40,000 range to work seven hours a day, drink himself each evening into a near stupor and then come to work "hung over".

Wow. $40,000 a year working only 7 hours a day. Sign me up! lol. That's amazing pay for a lube shop.

talnlnky
05-26-2009, 08:56 PM
doesn't our manual say something about lubing joints if you drive on dirt roads? I swear I remember reading that in the 08 LB manual.

yarismaris
05-26-2009, 09:06 PM
Crap lol I am calling dealer tomorrow about this issue to settle it once and for all.

jambo101
05-27-2009, 05:45 AM
doesn't our manual say something about lubing joints if you drive on dirt roads? I swear I remember reading that in the 08 LB manual.
Joints??there are no lube points on the car in the traditional sense where a car would have a dozen or so grease fittings usually suspension related,now its all prepacked fittings that usually last a long time if not the life of the car,you can lube things like door,trunk and hood hinges and parts of the wiper mechanism.

1stToyota
05-27-2009, 08:45 AM
These quick oil change place salways claim they "lube" your car. I thought lube nipples and lube points went away in the 1970s? Does anything on our Yaris need lube, or is it a ripoff?

Most replacement steering and suspension parts will need to be greased, and maybe they'll have the inititive to lube door and hood pivot points, latches, sway bar bushings, etc...

daf62757
05-27-2009, 07:10 PM
A chimpanzee, fresh from the zoo could do a better job than 99% of the kids that are working for these Quicky Lubes. Do it yourself and do it right! The Yaris is so easy to do an oil change on!

YarisSedan
05-27-2009, 07:40 PM
If you look more at the fine print it says "where applicable" Which means its really just there to put more value to what you are getting. Some people are going to think wow they top off my fluids, check my tire pressure, and LUBE my car, I dont know what it is but it sounds better than the other place which is just a oil and filter only.

90 percent of most cars done require any lube. All lube shops put it on thier coupon so what happens no one wants to take it off their coupon even though modern day cars no longer have servicible fittings.

To be honest my shop has the same thing on our coupon and i dont think we even own a grease gun.

firemachine69
05-27-2009, 11:34 PM
I haven't seen one yet, but I am not a mechanic



No stock point requires lube, but many aftermarket components do (for the better IMHO.)

MadMax
05-27-2009, 11:40 PM
You may get a "lube job" from the dealer, but it isn't going to be the kind you are gonna like! :eyebulge:

firemachine69
05-28-2009, 12:00 AM
They prefer doing it without lube. :tongue:

PolarWhite
02-04-2010, 12:56 PM
Just a quick point of interest here. If you think all "lube shops" are rip off joints, you might check out www.aoca.org and educate yourselves. Also, you can check out www.noln.net. Just like anything else in life, there are qualified, professional lube shops and then there are shady facilities. Don't lump them all into one category. Thanks.

1stToyota
02-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Well, around here, my view of chain quick lubes is that maybe they're not rip-offs, just too lazy instead. Almost every hood I open that's just visited a quick lube is low on coolant, brake fluid and p/s fluid more often than not...and drain plug gasket is either cracked or missing, but they sure can remember to place the blue or yellow snot all over the filter and drain plug though. :rolleyes: