Totally lost...

[MGargano]

I fully expect to catch some flak for not getting this info from the Official Tire/Wheel Guide, but I honestly tried more than once and it might as well be written in Greek for all I could understand of it. I'm just a total n00b when it comes to all things tires/wheels so I'm looking for all the help I can get.

I'm looking to upgrade the rolling stock of my 09 Yaris 3 door but I'm getting stuck on what sizes will and won't work.

The car's dropped on DF210s and I have a TRD Rear Sway Bar (if that matters at all).

I'm thinking something in the 16" family (since the stock 15" steelies seem a little small to me), but again, I'm a total novice so I may be totally wrong on that. The car's Black Sand Pearl with 5% tint on the rear windows, so I want to do an all-black theme with the wheels too. I just want something that's no-hassle as far as rubbing, turning radius, etc.

Again, I'd appreciate any and all help and input. Thanks.

[1NZYaris1]

So you want us to pick your new wheels too :iono: , look at any 16"
wheel with a 40+ offset or bigger 42,44 etc with a width of 6.5" or 7 "
and look at fitting 195,50profile or 205,50 or 215,45 and you should be right , and if i am wrong there's plenty of people on here that will corect me :biggrin:

[yarisugi]

No hassle:
wheel size = 16 x 6.5 or 16 x 7
wheel offset= +42
tire size = 195/50/16

[MGargano]

So you want us to pick your new wheels too :iono:

lol could ya? No, I was just trying to let everyone know exactly what I was looking for, just in case someone happened to have a set that would work for me. At least now I know what sizes I'm looking for. Thanks for all your help!

[dvlnblkdrs]

195/45/16 is best setup.. i have coilovers and no issues...its enough sidewall to not look like rubber bands or like floatation devices... look at the ssr type c.. they is muy sex-c :cool:

[MGargano]

[QUOTE=dvlnblkdrs;332369 look at the ssr type c.. they is muy sex-c :cool:[/QUOTE]

I agree! But $249 (at tirerack.com) is a little (wayyyy) out of my price range! Thanks though!

[dvlnblkdrs]

hah no worries.. it took me over a year to find the perfect wheels.... and boy am i glad i waited.. i swear, i must have had a new wheel choice like every single day!!!

[kimona]

Check-out discounttiredirect: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/toggleShowingAllWheelProducts.do?fcf=&bp=4-100*9-100&fcpr=&counter=1&fcst=&fcs=false&wd=16&rw=&fcb=

[cali yaris]

They don't make the Type C in black any more.

Type F's would rock, but any SSR wheel is going to be out of your price range (just saying what you said, no offense).

[MGargano]

Check-out discounttiredirect: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/toggleShowingAllWheelProducts.do?fcf=&bp=4-100*9-100&fcpr=&counter=1&fcst=&fcs=false&wd=16&rw=&fcb=

I'm leaning toward the high-gloss black with 5 spoke designs, but without the chrome outer lip many of these seem to have.

[cali yaris]

black with polished lip is played out where I live. All black FTW

[MGargano]

All black FTW

Now that I have the official Micro Image seal of approval, I just need to actually find a set! :help:

[cali yaris]

^ haha, always remember it's YOUR car. :thumbsup:

[scape]

black with polished lip is played out where I live. All black FTW

+1

[Nagoya_TRD.]

They don't make the Type C in black any more.

Type F's would rock, but any SSR wheel is going to be out of your price range (just saying what you said, no offense).

You can't even special order it anymore for an extra cost or something?

[yarisugi]

how about black wheel and red tires?

[MGargano]

You can't even special order it anymore for an extra cost or something?

I think this is it in black, unless I'm mistaken:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=wheelCloseUp&wheelMake=SSR&wheelModel=Type+C+RS&wheelFinish=Black+Painted

[1NZYaris1]

These 2 are not bad :thumbsup:

[MGargano]

These 2 are not bad :thumbsup:

Link?

[Tamago]

fyi both wheels in this picture are 15"... width makes up for diameter in most cases.. throw in a bit of extra rear "negative" offset and you feel those fenderwells nicely!

http://penguingarage.com/Images/PenguinG/HubSpacer13mm.jpg

you can get the black ones on the right for relatively cheap from www.goodwinracing.com

[MGargano]

[QUOTE=Tamago;332994]throw in a bit of extra rear "negative" offset and you feel those fenderwells nicely! /QUOTE]

I was with you until this point. Do you mean I should use the hub spacers in the rear?

[Tamago]

[QUOTE=Tamago;332994]throw in a bit of extra rear "negative" offset and you feel those fenderwells nicely! /QUOTE]

I was with you until this point. Do you mean I should use the hub spacers in the rear?

yes, hub spacers help when you buy wheels that fit well up front but look a little sunken in at the back. the cars pictured are 10mm spacer on the left car and 13mm on the right car (but offsets are much lower than most yaris owners suggest, 15X8 +20mm on the left and 15X7 +30 on the right)

i hope we can talk you into some nice wide 15's :)

[MGargano]

[QUOTE=MGargano;332997]

yes, hub spacers help when you buy wheels that fit well up front but look a little sunken in at the back. the cars pictured are 10mm spacer on the left car and 13mm on the right car (but offsets are much lower than most yaris owners suggest, 15X8 +20mm on the left and 15X7 +30 on the right)

i hope we can talk you into some nice wide 15's :)

I suppose one advantage of going with 15's is cheaper tires and wheels due to smaller size? Any other advantages?

[Tamago]

lighter weight = better handling :) and there are more tire choices in 15" IMO.

[MGargano]

lighter weight = better handling :) and there are more tire choices in 15" IMO.

What's a good 15" wheel/tire size combo, in your opinion?

[cali yaris]

Rear Hub Spacers (http://www.shop.microimageonline.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=141) :wink:

[Tamago]

What's a good 15" wheel/tire size combo, in your opinion?

wheel:

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-0159.html

tire:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=S.drive&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=955VR5S&fromCompare1=yes&place=2

[Tamago]

Rear Hub Spacers (http://www.shop.microimageonline.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=141) :wink:

i've been waiting all day for this! awesome !

[MGargano]

wheel:

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-0159.html

tire:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=S.drive&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=955VR5S&fromCompare1=yes&place=2

So a 15x7 wheel with a 30mm offset and 13mm hub spacer is a good bet? And 195/55/15 for the tire? No rubbing issues with this combo if I have DF210s?

[Tamago]

So a 15x7 wheel with a 30mm offset and 13mm hub spacer is a good bet? And 195/55/15 for the tire? No rubbing issues with this combo if I have DF210s?

i'd suggest 10mm hub spacers. the yaris pictured in my post earlier (blue car) had +13 on the same springs as you, but he's also gutted the back of his car, so no rear seats. he no longer has worries of a little rub in the rear. i suggest trying the above setup sans-spacer to begin with. if you like it, and want a little more width, order up those spacers! both penguingarage.com and microimageonline.com carry them :wub:

[MGargano]

Thanks for your help. I'm still a little confused about the size of the offset, though, since earlier posters recommended 40+ offset and you're saying 30mm. Or does the 10/13mm spacer make up that difference?

[Tamago]

Thanks for your help. I'm still a little confused about the size of the offset, though, since earlier posters recommended 40+ offset and you're saying 30mm. Or does the 10/13mm spacer make up that difference?

ok, crash course on offset


typical yaris owners will caution not to go UNDER 40mm. the LOWER the number is (+30mm) the more the wheel will stick out. yaris owners experience rubbing at +38mm when the car is lowered heavily, but they're rubbing on plastic. and plastic will not damage your tire or wheel.

a 10 mm spacer will turn a +38 into a +28mm, meaning the wheel is 10mm FURTHER OUT, wider stance. i cannot comment on how this works out, but from all of the yarii i've set up, none of the owners have been too concerned with a slight "rub" now and then, in trade for an awesome looking car. i have a customer up in orlando that has a +35 with 10mm spacer (+25 effective in the rear) that only rubs with 2 passengers in back, going over decent size bumps. if you're absolutely terrified of a little rub, stick to what the wheel/tire guide recommends. however, if you don't mind a little harmless rubbing noise now and then, you'd be fine running a +30 wheel and a 10mm rear hub spacer (with current spring setup)

the blue yaris pictured above is a +30 and a 13mm spacer which gives him an effective +17 at the rear. he's on 195 55 15 tire size. please PM TheRealEnth here on YW for his experience with rub issues.

~joel

[1NZYaris1]

Link?
Here you go
just used the link you supplied and filled in the boxes on the right off the screen , both of these are on page 2

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4415650138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Liftback&autoYear=2009&autoModClar=3-Door&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4487701142B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=GW8&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Liftback&autoYear=2009&autoModClar=3-Door&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

[MGargano]

Thanks again Tamago, I really appreciate the crash course. I think I'll look for something around +35 or +38 to start with, then add the spacers after if they look too sunken in.

[Tamago]

Thanks again Tamago, I really appreciate the crash course. I think I'll look for something around +35 or +38 to start with, then add the spacers after if they look too sunken in.

sounds good! there are quite a few 7" wide +35 wheels out there :) you'd be able to run 13mm spacers, no problem!

[MGargano]

Any sites you'd recommend? I already checked out discounttires and tirerack. I have two sets of 185/65/15 tires that I wanna use up before spending $$$ on new rubber, so I think I'm just in the market for wheels at the moment.

[Tamago]

Any sites you'd recommend? I already checked out discounttires and tirerack. I have two sets of 185/65/15 tires that I wanna use up before spending $$$ on new rubber, so I think I'm just in the market for wheels at the moment.

www.goodwinracing.com

[scape]

what is your budget? are you looking for light weight? enkei rpf1's might be up your alley...
or maybe:
15" motegi's are 100$ a pop, rather cheap in price i'd say and are ~14.5lbs

17" -> http://dkmacdougall.com/images/other/projectY/YARIS_01.jpg

[MGargano]

Thoughts on these? http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4415650138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Liftback&autoYear=2009&autoModClar=3-Door&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

The ones from Good-Win are very similar in looks and price, but these are Enkei and I've never heard of the brand Good-Win's selling. Also, tirerack's shipping is much cheaper and includes center caps & lug nuts so it seems like a better deal.

[kimona]

Thoughts on these? http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4415650138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Liftback&autoYear=2009&autoModClar=3-Door&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

The ones from Good-Win are very similar in looks and price, but these are Enkei and I've never heard of the brand Good-Win's selling. Also, tirerack's shipping is much cheaper and includes center caps & lug nuts so it seems like a better deal.

Very good looking quality wheel.

[cali yaris]

^ double drilled, meh.

can't find the good-win brand wheels on there. Tamago you had a direct link in another thread I thought.

[kimona]

^ double drilled, meh.

can't find the good-win brand wheels on there. Tamago you had a direct link in another thread I thought.

Yeah, dual drilled always sucks, but you can hardly see that with a black wheel. Heck, you can hardly see any detail with a black wheel!

[Tamago]

The ones from Good-Win are very similar in looks and price, but these are Enkei and I've never heard of the brand Good-Win's selling. Also, tirerack's shipping is much cheaper and includes center caps & lug nuts so it seems like a better deal.

which wheels hadn't you heard of from goodwin?

[scape]

Thoughts on these? http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4415650138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Liftback&autoYear=2009&autoModClar=3-Door&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

The ones from Good-Win are very similar in looks and price, but these are Enkei and I've never heard of the brand Good-Win's selling. Also, tirerack's shipping is much cheaper and includes center caps & lug nuts so it seems like a better deal.


they are almost as heavy as stock steelies! :\

[MGargano]

which wheels hadn't you heard of from goodwin?

"Team Dynamics Pro Race ONE"

[Tamago]

"Team Dynamics Pro Race ONE"

Team Dynamics

http://www.teamdynamicsracing.com/competition_wheels.htm

typical BTCC fare in the UK

[Tamago]

they are almost as heavy as stock steelies! :\

since my posts keep getting deleted (thanks mods) i already stated it's 16.35lbs for this wheel.

[MGargano]

I've got no frame of reference... how much do the stock steelies weigh? Also, I like a lot of their wheels, but good-win's shipping is very expensive, like $60 minimum. I think discounttires has free shipping and a $50 instant savings.

[MGargano]

lol I guess that's a good point. I'll be able to fit the OEM 185/65/15 tire on a 15x7 rim with no problem?

[MGargano]

yes, but it'll look pretty silly ;)

Shit, really? How/why? It's just that those are the tires that came on my car and they have less than 3,000 miles, and I have a whole other set of 4 that have less than 2,000 miles, so it seems silly to buy new rubber when I already have 8 basically brand new tires, even those the size is a little small. Also, I thought the drop of the DF210s might make up for any weirdness in looks?

[scape]

here's a pic of 15x6.5 with 185/65, for frame of reference i guess
http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/marketplace/data/46/large/DSCN1440.jpg