Valvoline 300,000 Mile Engine Guarantee

[PolarWhite]

Have you guys heard about the new Valvoline Engine Guarantee? If you use the full synthetic Valvoline SynPower oil, they will guarantee your engine to 300,000 miles. It covers everything that oil touches. You can read all about it at www.valvoline.com. I have been using it since my Yaris was new anyway, I am sure going to register mine.

[Black Yaris]

how many loop holes do you think are in that deal?

[PolarWhite]

None. They researched this deal for two (2) years before bringing it to the consumer market. Car must have less than 75k and newer than 1991 to register. Keep your receipts for oil changes and log them in online as well. Must get the oil changed at least every 4,000 miles. They know full well they will pay some claims. BTW, I DO NOT work for Valvoline. Just used it for years and have done my research on the guarantee. Only thing I found they don't cover is timing belts/chains. I'm in.

[Black Yaris]

I will scan all the fine print, we have the whole spiel at the zone

[voodoo22]

Changing oil every 4000 miles for 99% of vehicles is ridiculous and a waste which creates so much unnecessary pollution. That's 50% more oil changes than required even to people who stick strictly to every 6000 miles. It's an ever bigger waste when you see the research which shows most newer vehicles can safely go well over 10000 miles between oil changes.

I personally stick to every 6000 miles with the spec of whatever is required by the car.

[Black Yaris]

I go 10,000 to 15,000 miles or a year between oil changes... whatever comes first

oil is always as clean as the day I poured it in

[PolarWhite]

To each his own. I would NEVER, EVER, EVER go 6,000 miles in between changes, much less 10,000. Oil changes are cheap insurance and I think more of my automobiles than that. Used oil is recycled and the part of Texas I live in, people change oil every 3,000 miles anyway. I grew up around very heavy duty farm equipment and am a firm believer in preventive maintenance. There is a reason for the old cliche' "pay me now or pay me later". I take care of my vehicles and they last until I am ready to trade, not when they break down. Just wanted to mention it here, it isn't going to work for everyone.

[yaris-me]

A big company like Valvoline can make this guarantee because most people will get a new car before 300,000 miles. When the body gets banged up or the upholstery starts to tear people start to think about a new car. But go for it!:smile:

[Black Yaris]

To each his own. I would NEVER, EVER, EVER go 6,000 miles in between changes, much less 10,000. Oil changes are cheap insurance and I think more of my automobiles than that. Used oil is recycled and the part of Texas I live in, people change oil every 3,000 miles anyway. I grew up around very heavy duty farm equipment and am a firm believer in preventive maintenance. There is a reason for the old cliche' "pay me now or pay me later". I take care of my vehicles and they last until I am ready to trade, not when they break down. Just wanted to mention it here, it isn't going to work for everyone.

do some research.... modern oils do not break down nearly as fast as they did in days past...
I can actually go 25k miles on my oil b4 it starts to break down, but I choose not to push it that far.

yeah I guess oil changes are cheep, but what you are doing is feeding big oil and furthering our country's addiction to oil

the only reasons to change your oil should be if it is dirty (contaminated) or the oil is starting to break down... doing otherwise is just plane wasteful


then again you are from Texas, so I am sure that backwards way of thinking makes sense to you

[Yaris Hilton]

I expect mine will go 300,00 miles on standard oil, changing it at 5,000 mile intervals, if I keep it that long. (See no reason why I wouldn't, but who knows?)

[nemelek]

A big company like Valvoline can make this guarantee because most people will get a new car before 300,000 miles. When the body gets banged up or the upholstery starts to tear people start to think about a new car. But go for it!:smile:

I agree. Very few people will ever own a car that long.

[severous01]

my jeep cherokee just hit 275k and it's been a 3k oil change on conventional all it's life. but then again it's an I-6 engine and that kinda mileage is nothing....

20 bux every 3k or 3mo is not a bad deal for the cost comparison to an engine, and the cost to put it in.

[silver_echo]

also, the oil change interval is variable based on driving habits, environment, weather, and a few other factors... i personally use the 3k timeline myself(or 3 months, but i usually hit 3k miles in about a month and a half), and i have never had a problem...

[PolarWhite]

BlackYaris,
You don't have to be a hater, everyone can't be from the great state of Texas! I won't stoop to your level and make fun of Ohio, if you want to run your car 25,000 miles between changes, go for it. As for getting a new car before then, I don't ever see myself getting rid of the Yaris, even if it becomes a backup car. You have a great week, in Ohio.

[marcus]

we still dont know who make the best synthetic oil out there.. company using additives and issues with detergents...

[nsmitchell]

I've switched both my Yaris and my Fit to Valvoline Synthetic. It seems to be good oil. My brother told me it looks to be more clear than Mobil-1. It says every 4000 miles! That's way too soon for synthetic oil. 3000 miles with a 1000 mile grace period. Hmm... no thanks. I doubt that if you are using any synthetic oil and change it at mfg. recommended intervals, you will have any internal engine problems anyway due to the oil failure. I'm going to continue using Valvoline Synthetic, but I won't sign up for this warranty.

[supmet]

“Qualifying Vehicles” excludes: a) leased vehicles, b) vehicles used for competitive or agricultural purposes, c) vehicles where the engine has been modified with equipment or parts that are not factory original parts or equipment, d) vehicles that have been modified with non-factory equipment or accessories (e.g., snow plow attachment, etc.),

c) and d) excludes 90% of yaris world.



Receipts must be printed (not hand written) and specify clearly and unambiguously the following information: use of Valvoline oil for the oil change, and the type of oil used (e.g., premium conventional, Durablend, SynPower, etc.), viscosity of Valvoline oil used, and oil filter used.

Most modern receipts fade with time and I don't think any receipt for oil that I bought had oil type, viscosity, brand, and EVERYTHING listed on it.



The Qualifying Vehicle engine must be serviced exclusively with the vehicle manufacturer’s required viscosity grade

I'd check into this one. I don't know if 5w20 is considered "recommended" or "allowable"

[PolarWhite]

The engine guarantee covers ANY repairs, not just one's caused by oil failure. That is what Quaker State and Pennzoil offer. Totally useless since oil never fails causing engine damage. Parts fail, that is what the Valvoline Engine Guarantee covers. It is free, no cost involved and the place I get my oil changed at has everything plainly stated on their receipts. There is not a product or service out there for everybody, so to each his own. You must do what you are comfortable with.

[SilverGlow]

BlackYaris,
You don't have to be a hater, everyone can't be from the great state of Texas! I won't stoop to your level and make fun of Ohio, if you want to run your car 25,000 miles between changes, go for it. As for getting a new car before then, I don't ever see myself getting rid of the Yaris, even if it becomes a backup car. You have a great week, in Ohio.

Don't be such a sucker. That 300k warranty is just marketing hype. Why would anyone change their synthetic oil at only 4,000 miles? What a huge waste of money and resources over 300k miles. Your Yaris should go 6,000 to 9,000 miles between changes when using synthetic. This valvoline gimmik is a stupid proposition to be sure.

Don't you realize you could run the "worse" and "cheapest" dino oil in your car and it will still last 300,000 miles?

I think Valvoline synthetic oil is great, fantastic, wonderful, but this 300k warranty gimmick is for suckersl people lacking experience will get sucked in.

These days ALL synthetic oils are great and NONE of them will cause any engine failure unless misapplied, and even then, the margin of safety is huge.

And don't full yourself: Valvoline knows darned well it will NEVER have to pay ANY claims...

Wise up!

[SilverGlow]

To each his own. I would NEVER, EVER, EVER go 6,000 miles in between changes, much less 10,000. Oil changes are cheap insurance and I think more of my automobiles than that. Used oil is recycled and the part of Texas I live in, people change oil every 3,000 miles anyway. I grew up around very heavy duty farm equipment and am a firm believer in preventive maintenance. There is a reason for the old cliche' "pay me now or pay me later". I take care of my vehicles and they last until I am ready to trade, not when they break down. Just wanted to mention it here, it isn't going to work for everyone.

You should start making decisions about your car based on fact, science and solid information. Because if you knew how oil works, you would not write the crud you do. 6,000 to10,000 is not unreasonable if one uses good synthetic oil and applies oil change intervals according to their driving conditions. I have cars that have lasted 300,000 miles with 6,000 to 10,000 oil changes, and they never burnt any oil, and drove like new.

Wise up here: www.BobIsTheOilGuy.com and check out their forums.

Information is power.

[voodoo22]

You should start making decisions about your car based on fact, science and solid information. Because if you knew how oil works, you would not write the crud you do. 6,000 to10,000 is not unreasonable if one uses good synthetic oil and applies oil change intervals according to their driving conditions. I have cars that have lasted 300,000 miles with 6,000 to 10,000 oil changes, and they never burnt any oil, and drove like new.

Wise up here: www.BobIsTheOilGuy.com and check out their forums.

Information is power.

:thumbsup:

[Yaris Hilton]

Here's one that's had good maintenance, but AFAIK no synthetic oil:
http://growingbolder.com/media/technology/vehicles/romancing-the-road-259598.html

[Lazerdot]

It is very evident oil is one of the areas people have the most opinions about. As a new Amsoil dealer I read these posts with alot of interest, and learn more each time.

I have no reason to doubt the 300,000 mile guarantee.
I think that would come to 75 oil changes if required every 4000 miles.

One type of Amsoil Synthetic allows 25,000 miles under many conditions and 15,000 for what they term as severe conditions (Signature Series 35,000/17,000). That would be 12 to 20 changes respectively. Assuming my math is correct, thats at least 300% less times even if 15,000 intervals are used.
Since most filters need changing at oil changes as well, I would think that could save substantial money over 300,000 miles if the rest of the car made it that long.

Oil analysis can also provide a user with information that can allow the oil to stay in the vehicle longer. Keeping any oil clean with quality filtration would seem to keep wear to a minimum.

Check out TruLube.com for more information on costs, oils and filters etc...

[1stToyota]

It is very evident oil is one of the areas people have the most opinions about. As a new Amsoil dealer I read these posts with alot of interest, and learn more each time.

I have no reason to doubt the 300,000 mile guarantee.
I think that would come to 75 oil changes if required every 4000 miles.

One type of Amsoil Synthetic allows 25,000 miles under many conditions and 15,000 for what they term as severe conditions (Signature Series 35,000/17,000). That would be 12 to 20 changes respectively. Assuming my math is correct, thats at least 300% less times even if 15,000 intervals are used.
Since most filters need changing at oil changes as well, I would think that could save substantial money over 300,000 miles if the rest of the car made it that long.

Oil analysis can also provide a user with information that can allow the oil to stay in the vehicle longer. Keeping any oil clean with quality filtration would seem to keep wear to a minimum.

Check out TruLube.com for more information on costs, oils and filters etc...

Amsoil follows up their great mileage claims with: ...or 1 year, whichever comes first

[POORSHA]

Amsoil also recomends changing the filter at Toyota intervals

[Lazerdot]

I'll check on the filter recommendations with Amsoil tech when I get back home in a couple days.

[1stToyota]

I'll check on the filter recommendations with Amsoil tech when I get back home in a couple days.

I think what they like to see is a regular WIX filter for the XL series oil, filter good for 7,500 miles, and the Ea filters (made by WIX) are guaranteed for 25,000 miles, or one year.

[talnlnky]

hmmm tempting offer... but I plan to go to the group V synthetic oils someday and run 10 or maybe even 15k, with filter changes every 3-5k. I go aprox 4800miles per change on group III/IV oils right now.

I have no doubts the engine will last 300k.... its everything else i'm worried about.

[lilredrocket]

Ok so if you go on averages here... Average mileage put on a car a year is 12k right? At that rate it would take 25 years to hit 300k. If you buy the Ea filter from AMS oil at $16 each from Lazerdot's site trulube.com thats 16 filter for a total of $400 dollars in filters and if you were to buy the WIX filters at $9 (sorry rounded up) you would need to buy 40 for a total of $360 over that 300k mark. If you bought the Signature Series once a year from Lazerdot that would come to $42 a year in oil and $1050 through the 300k "goal". Average quick lubes about $45 for a synthetic oil change. You would have to do 3 of those a year for Valvolines guarantee so that's $135 a year in oil changes and for a grand total of $3375 through out the guarantee. So IMHO $1450 is better than paying $3375. I could find a better way to spend that extra $1900.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Ashland ( Valvoline) is up for sale. Who knows if the new ownership will honour the warranty. My cars are usually used up by 50K (trans) so it so doesnt matter to me. BTW I'm running Valvoline 10w-30 synpower and it is the worst oil Ive had in there by far. Gas milage is down 4 mpg 38>34, and power and drivability is bad. maybe shoulda gone with the 5w-30. Anyway synpower is not a synthetic oil, just grp-III. Exxon M1 AFE going in next which is a semi synth at best also, but I expect good things from it.

[1stToyota]

O'Reilly's has SynPower (5w20, 5w30, 10w30) on sale for $3.99