How loud's too loud? [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

Justin220

06-15-2009, 05:31 AM

I've been yelled at before because my systems too loud in my subdevision. I have just got a new Eonon stereo (http://www.eonon.com/Specified-Car-Player/E1057.html?utm_source=yarisworld.com&utm_medium=forum&utm_campaign=forum). Im a new i can deal with that. But cruising down the main road today i had it loud, how i like it. Theres a guy in the turning lane when im going straight who honks at me, so being an idiot i honk back as i cruise by. I get back from the store and he pulls up in my driveway and tells me he knows people and im "gonna get it" my question is this...Do you guys think it needs to be turned down unless your the only person on the road? I keep it down in the subdevision cus i know its not a good idea but on the main road? Thats going a little far IMO.

Bob Dog

06-15-2009, 07:28 AM

It is too loud when other people have to listen to it in their houses. I like it loud too, and what I do is turn it on my system and listen to it from outside the car, to make sure it isn't loud enough to bother other people. The guy seems like he's a jerk to not have tried to talk decently with you before he got mad though.

kimona

06-15-2009, 08:08 AM

If others can hear it, it's too loud. Period.

voodoo22

06-15-2009, 08:15 AM

If others can hear it, it's too loud. Period.

:thumbsup:

eii

06-15-2009, 08:28 AM

if its loud to people outside of your car when you have your windows rolled up than i would consider that too loud.. its a bit inconsiderate if you listen to music super loud with all your windows open. i mean who's to tell you how to listen to your music anyways? however i think cops can give you a ticket for disturbing the peace or some crap like that if its super loud. ive seen people argue with each other about how they play their music too loud. it gets pretty heated sometimes, but nothing ever goes down. iono you'll figure this out on your own.

Phaeton

06-15-2009, 08:56 AM

Think of noise pollution like farts. You wouldn't want everyone around you to hear you fart in public(or maybe you would?).

BDD

06-15-2009, 09:48 AM

I think if other people can hear your music from inside their car, it is too loud, but I'd take many things into consideration... where I live, I can hear everyone's music, so I keep it loud to drown their crap out.
However, if some dude is honking at you because your car is too loud, what is he doing, but adding to the noise?

Tamago

06-15-2009, 09:49 AM

be polite in your subdivision. blasting "your" music driving down the street is just stupid anyway, (advertising, come steal my stereo!!) and doing it where you live is like taking a poop in your neighbor's yard. not very polite.

Lafiro

06-15-2009, 10:33 AM

marcus

06-15-2009, 01:07 PM

use an iphone to measure decible... over 92 db is illegal..atleast to some states.

supmet

06-15-2009, 01:19 PM

If others can hear it, it's too loud. Period.

Um. no. If you would like to apply that theory to car engines, lawnmowers, weed whackers, harleys, children playing in the street, and everything else in the world that makes noise, then ok. I hear all of those in my house, with the windows closed, on a daily basis

Tamago

06-15-2009, 01:20 PM

Um. no. If you would like to apply that theory to car engines, lawnmowers, weed whackers, harleys, children playing in the street, and everything else in the world that makes noise, then ok. I hear all of those in my house, with the windows closed, on a daily basis

if you can understand the words from outside the vehicle (provided it isn't some jungle-monkey rap that you can't understand to begin with), it's too loud

kimona

06-15-2009, 01:28 PM

Um. no. If you would like to apply that theory to car engines, lawnmowers, weed whackers, harleys, children playing in the street, and everything else in the world that makes noise, then ok. I hear all of those in my house, with the windows closed, on a daily basis

We are talking about the volume of your music in your car... something you have complete control over.. and a simple situation where one needs to practice some small bit of consideration and respect for others... concepts that are apparently quite foreign to many in this country.

yaris-me

06-15-2009, 01:35 PM

Hawaii has strict noise laws. If you're in violation, it doesn't matter what excuse you give. Find out what applies to you and follow it.:smile:

supmet

06-15-2009, 01:42 PM

We are talking about the volume of your music in your car... something you have complete control over.. and a simple situation where one needs to practice some small bit of consideration and respect for others... concepts that are apparently quite foreign to many in this country.

You have control over buying an aftermarket exhaust - Is everyone here that bought an exhaust inconsiderate? Electric lawnmowers are considerably quieter than gas, and sweeping is quieter and better for the environment than using a blower. Technically a manual mower would be the quietest and least polluting - You have control there too, but you don't respect me enough, so you just use your loud ass gas mower. Children certainly have control over their volume, and its definitely a matter of respect. Don't get me started on harleys.

Please don't vilify stereos, because you choose to let them bother you more than any of the other sounds you are accosted with on a daily basis. I turn my stereo down in neighborhoods, but I'm not going out of my way to keep everyone in the world from hearing it.

In order of frequency, things I get woken up by:

1)harleys
2)kazoo exhausts on cars
3)the marching band at the high school at 6:45 AM
4)lawnmowers at 7 AM
5)loud stereos

RedRide

06-15-2009, 04:07 PM

I have an after market sys in my Celica.....Kicker amp, Kicker sub and new speakers.

Now, I am considerate and keep the volume down when in my neighbohood etc.

However, when on a main road I turn it up at times, I will turn it down out of consideration if I pull up along side another car (like at a red light) and we both got our windows rolled down.

Bottom line... A little consideration and respect for your fellow man/woman goes a long way. :smile:

Kaotic Lazagna

06-15-2009, 04:27 PM

If the car next to you can hear and/or feel your music, it's way too loud. I'll admit, I like to turn up my music, but if I'm in a residential place (or any where else other than the freeway), I'll have it turned down.

Zaphod

06-15-2009, 05:19 PM

If others can hear it, it's too loud. Period.
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Bob Dog

06-15-2009, 06:05 PM

talnlnky

06-15-2009, 09:51 PM

1)the faster the car is moving the louder you can have it...
example... nobody is going to hear your car even if its blasting at 140+ dB's if you're doing 70's on the highway with your windows up.

2) If your windows are down you gotta cut the volume by half of what you normally can get away with

3) If you're not moving, like sitting at a stop, you should lower the volume until you start moving again... Most stereos come with an Attenuation button that'll decrease the volume by like 20dB instantly... or you can just turn it down by hand.

JBougie

06-15-2009, 10:07 PM

1. That guy is a nut job for saying 'you're going to get it' becuase he heard your system.

2. When you have a system (I have one myself, and always have...) you should - out of respect - turn it down/mute it at stop lights/signs, in residential areas, and any place that it might get you looked at funny.

I personally don't bump my system as I go through the hood (I head some juvenile diversion classes in some extremely sketchy areas in Minneapolis and don't feel like getting car jacked), where I live (hello car theft...) or at stop lights because the mini-van to the side of me full of children might not want to hear the colorful lyrics of Three6Mafia =o) lol

It's all about respect.

Snyprwlf47

06-15-2009, 11:22 PM

Ill agree with the fact that harleys are way to loud and people make alot of noise mowing there grass, but I feel that if someone can hear it next to you with there windows rolled up its gonna more than likely cause you to suffer hearing loss and is too loud! Also if you can hear another drivers horn then you probably dont have it up to loud^-^

The little red pill

06-15-2009, 11:56 PM

You have control over buying an aftermarket exhaust - Is everyone here that bought an exhaust inconsiderate? Electric lawnmowers are considerably quieter than gas, and sweeping is quieter and better for the environment than using a blower. Technically a manual mower would be the quietest and least polluting - You have control there too, but you don't respect me enough, so you just use your loud ass gas mower. Children certainly have control over their volume, and its definitely a matter of respect. Don't get me started on harleys.

Please don't vilify stereos, because you choose to let them bother you more than any of the other sounds you are accosted with on a daily basis. I turn my stereo down in neighborhoods, but I'm not going out of my way to keep everyone in the world from hearing it.

In order of frequency, things I get woken up by:

1)harleys
2)kazoo exhausts on cars
3)the marching band at the high school at 6:45 AM
4)lawnmowers at 7 AM
5)loud stereos

You're entirely missing the point. Your logic as stated above is that two wrongs make a right. It's inconsiderate to play music excessively loud on one's stereo system to the point it causes other people anguish. Not to mention the damage done to the ears (i.e. when you have Tinnitus in your ears at age 50, you'll understand.)
To address your list: Responsible homeowners have a need to cut grass (they can't spend $$ on a stereo system because they have a family to support and mortgage to pay). Most places don't have laws governing exhaust noise for 2 wheeled motor vehicles. And marching band is a publicly supported and funded activity sponsored by the school district. #2, and #5 are subject to fines and other regulatory action as they are a complete nuisance.

supmet

06-16-2009, 12:20 AM

You're entirely missing the point. Your logic as stated above is that two wrongs make a right. It's inconsiderate to play music excessively loud on one's stereo system to the point it causes other people anguish. Not to mention the damage done to the ears (i.e. when you have Tinnitus in your ears at age 50, you'll understand.)
To address your list: Responsible homeowners have a need to cut grass (they can't spend $$ on a stereo system because they have a family to support and mortgage to pay). Most places don't have laws governing exhaust noise for 2 wheeled motor vehicles. And marching band is a publicly supported and funded activity sponsored by the school district. #2, and #5 are subject to fines and other regulatory action as they are a complete nuisance.

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.

Justin220

06-16-2009, 12:22 AM

I like hearing other peoples music, as long as its not loud. It adds brightness and color to my day, like birds singing, or women in bright colored clothes, or a flash car, or or a billboard or big electric sign in an urban environment, or a painted bridge or some colorful buildings. I like stimulation and interacting with the environment around me. If it doesn't interfere with my conversation or my listening to my media I'm fine with it. This of course does not include rude excess.

Hi Bob, we're kinda alike! both emotional, sensitive and artistic! enjoying life is most important to me! life is short! no matter walking, driving, beatuiful ladies, fantastic sceneries are all around. And pls forgive my honeymoon period with my cute new Eonon stereo,:biggrin: I'll still play it loudly in highway with my windows down, feeling the breeze, fresh air, and the Hip-hop! Oh god set me free! But sure I won't lose my self-countrol in the crowded, otherwise people will throw their shoes to me, I guess not only yelling!

The little red pill

06-16-2009, 12:31 AM

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.

Wow. I never said you "blast" your system. That's why I used the pronoun "one" as in playing "one's" stereo too loud. Take it easy tiger. Talk about "thin" skin. :laugh:
Also, many cities strictly enforce grass height and will in fact issue a fine if grass is too tall. I fail to see how this relates to water usage. I don't water my lawn but it seems to "magically" grow to the point where it needs to be cut. Amazing!
I think the point most of us are making is for those people that play their music well above necessary levels to hear it. It's a simple matter of respecting your fellow person.

supmet

06-16-2009, 02:16 AM

Wow. I never said you "blast" your system. That's why I used the pronoun "one" as in playing "one's" stereo too loud. Take it easy tiger. Talk about "thin" skin. :laugh:

I never said you did. I said I don't blast my system as part of the next sentence where I didn't understand the "anguish" caused by another person's system, especially at a stop light. Also - I hate to burst your bubble, but not a single person has successfully actually bothered me over the internet. You and everyone else on the internet are forgotten within seconds of me finishing any given post.

I fail to see how this relates to water usage.

Because "one" doesn't need a lawn in the first place. "One" chooses to have a lawn which needs tons of fresh water, and requires noise polluting lawn maintenance. Most cities in California, Nevada, and I'm sure other states will give you a check of up to $2000 dollars for changing to low water usage landscaping. Too bad every house of the american dreamer has to have a big green lawn with a white picket fence.

But I don't really want to impede on someone's right to mow their lawn. I'm just saying if being able to hear something that someone else is doing is a sign of disrespect and should be restricted, be fair about it and restrict all loud noises.

detroiter

06-16-2009, 01:20 PM

Knowing my kind of humor, I would have probably replied back to him "If I'm gonna get it, it better be big and thick or else don't waste my time" haha.

Yeah if others can hear it, then it might be a tad too loud.

Zaphod

06-16-2009, 09:06 PM

I said I don't blast my system as part of the next sentence where I didn't understand the "anguish" caused by another person's system, especially at a stop light.
A harley with no muffler, but straight pipes might help you there. Loud radios doing the boom boom don't bother me anymore, when they raise it, I rev it!

I've seen the listen-to-my-window-rattling-radio reaction before, and they're never happy about it. So I'm not surprised, but a bit delighted to see that the street don't go both ways there.

talnlnky

06-16-2009, 09:54 PM

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.
Ignant post of the week award above.

Dude... it doesn't matter if something YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER does or doesn't give you anguish.... its about the things that you DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

Example... your neighbors barking dog @ 11PM, some random wannabe thug blasting dual 12's and 1000watts with all four windows rolled down.

So... Yeah... if you put your head close enough to a W7 to get bruises you prolly won't think its annoying.

Oh.. and for the record.... most people who go around broadcasting their music have crappy stereos... even if they can get loud.

I hate loud stereos, tho I've won a dozen or so sound competitions, and have worked on half a dozen cars that won sound competitions. I love bass, but hate when I'm forced to listen to other peoples bass... I also hate loud diesel trucks, motorcycles, and fart cannon mufflers on every 16-25 year old male jerk-off's car.

I say they all should be regulated.

Bob Dog

06-16-2009, 10:11 PM

There is a big difference from a little music drifting out some ones car window @ 50 watts than being assaulted by window rattling 12" subs at a couple thousand watts.

id3379

06-16-2009, 10:35 PM

Just be respectful and turn your music down when your in neighbor hoods. Or roll up to stop lights with other people around. Then blast your music where ever else you go, Like a BOSS!

If that's really that big of a problem for you then you have some issues. And this is coming from a 19 year old kid.

Justin220

06-17-2009, 12:27 AM

Yaris Hilton

06-17-2009, 05:10 AM

Just FYI, Harleys come new with quiet exhausts. Their owners spend lots of money to make them loud.

supmet

06-17-2009, 04:47 PM

I say they all should be regulated.

My only point was that either everything or nothing should be regulated. We live in a society of loud noises - cars(engines, exhausts, horns, squealing brakes), lawnmowers, trucks, bikes, planes, trains, constructions sites, and a thousand other abusive noises. By the time it gets down to other people's music I hardly notice. I just find it funny that most people are so annoyed by something that affects maybe 10 seconds a week of their life, when so much more time is spent dealing with louder more annoying noise, most of which isn't necessary, just convenient.

Justin220

06-18-2009, 05:55 AM

My only point was that either everything or nothing should be regulated. We live in a society of loud noises - cars(engines, exhausts, horns, squealing brakes), lawnmowers, trucks, bikes, planes, trains, constructions sites, and a thousand other abusive noises. By the time it gets down to other people's music I hardly notice. I just find it funny that most people are so annoyed by something that affects maybe 10 seconds a week of their life, when so much more time is spent dealing with louder more annoying noise, most of which isn't necessary, just convenient.

How much I hope more people will think as you! Great minds think alike. Sometimes the frustration is caused by ourselves, our attitude, we can actually escape us from this self troubling. However, not so many people are so tolerant, so we have to promise, obey the rules, that's always the case!

Zaphod

06-18-2009, 11:48 AM

My only point was that either everything or nothing should be regulated. We live in a society of loud noises - cars(engines, exhausts, horns, squealing brakes), lawnmowers, trucks, bikes, planes, trains, constructions sites, and a thousand other abusive noises. By the time it gets down to other people's music I hardly notice. I just find it funny that most people are so annoyed by something that affects maybe 10 seconds a week of their life, when so much more time is spent dealing with louder more annoying noise, most of which isn't necessary, just convenient.
Like I said, I've seen the listen-to-my-window-rattling-radio reaction before when I rev the harley to drown out their music, and they're never happy about it

So again ... I'm not surprised, but a bit delighted to see that the street don't go both ways there.

Darb

06-18-2009, 02:32 PM

id3379

06-18-2009, 09:27 PM

I usually only crank it on the highway,

I usually only crank dat soulja boy! youuuuuuuuu!

Darb

06-19-2009, 09:52 AM

I usually only crank dat soulja boy! youuuuuuuuu!

God, now that song is stuck in my head. :rolleyes:

Justin220

06-22-2009, 05:59 AM

I usually only crank it on the highway, in traffic, or if I need to cover up someone else's music at a stop light.

EDIT: Led Zeppelin always gets cranked, regardless of where I am (except residential zones) and who's next to me.:headbang:

You're brave, and Led Zeppelin is even braver, god, you guys totoally don't care about the cops? Covering up someone else's music at a stop light must be even blamed by more people around! :laugh:

Darb

06-22-2009, 09:13 AM

You're brave, and Led Zeppelin is even braver, god, you guys totoally don't care about the cops? Covering up someone else's music at a stop light must be even blamed by more people around! :laugh:

I'll drop it a bit if I see a cop, but only if I'm stopped.

I'm sure the argument "but... it's Zeppelin!" would at least merit a warning from some cops. :laugh:

eric81

06-22-2009, 02:52 PM

Did you remember his face/car/color/rims/licence plate number?

You can have him questioned by the police for harassment, even if he didn't actually touch you. Just threatening someone like that is considered a violation of your rights. In the same token, 98 db is the limit, so if your system goes above that, maybe figure out where 98db is, and just stick to that as the maximum, unless you are out on an empty road.
Now, as far as the other guy goes, I would have walked up to him and broken something on his car because I have anger issues, but you should have told him off at least. And that isn't cool at all, threatening someone for a loud stereo. He could have just reported you and have been done. Happened to me once, when I got caught racing someone, and they said I was clocked at 105 mph (in a 55 zone). The cop who clocked me wasn't allowed to drive to where I was (different counties, I think), so I was released with a warning to NEVER speed again, or they would take my car and my liscense.
Anyways, just watch out for that other guy, and if you see him again, take his plates off or something, then call the cops anonymously and reprt his car and location. Payback is a (female dog).

JBougie

06-23-2009, 12:54 AM

God, now that song is stuck in my head. :rolleyes:

Ugh. Same here lol

hasher22

06-23-2009, 01:05 AM

its their problem......if they dont like it then they can roll up their windows.....problem solved.

They just think their king sh** cuz they dont like it.

Justin220

06-24-2009, 01:07 AM

its their problem......if they dont like it then they can roll up their windows.....problem solved.

They just think their king sh** cuz they dont like it.

:thumbup: Good idea! But it's easier said than done. Changing the world is difficult, sometimes we can only change ourselves! That's the reality!

Darb

06-25-2009, 03:32 PM

You can have him questioned by the police for harassment, even if he didn't actually touch you. Just threatening someone like that is considered a violation of your rights.

Not just harrassment, but assault as well.

Assault = Threatening to hit someone.
Battery = The moment your fist makes contact.

Forrest

06-25-2009, 04:17 PM

Sometimes some kids will drive by you and the car will shake from the vibration of the speakers. They will be deaf soon enough !

Yaris Hilton

06-26-2009, 03:44 AM

Then they'll turn it up louder to hear.

twowheels

07-01-2009, 02:11 AM

Loud music can cause lung collapse:
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=nature-health/health/loud-music-can-damage-lungs.txt

Loud bass can cause heart perforations:
(still searching for source)

Loud music can increase blood pressure and heartrate:
http://www.colorado.edu/eeb/courses/1230jbasey/abstracts%202006/16.htm

It's not just hearing loss... I'd be careful.