Notchy short shifter

[Brad D]

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

[cali yaris]

the piggie SSK gives some people trouble, and others like it just fine. Maybe there is some inconsistency in their production. I'll just say, with all due respect, that you get what you pay for.

[marcus]

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

i had the same feeling but believe me after a week youll love it..i even went 2.25 shofter on the shaft.annoying at first but ur wrist will get use to it..

[TWM Performance]

The main issue with this adapter is that it puts the shifter cable at a bad angle (because there is no bracket to correctly re-position the cable). This angle on the cable makes the shifter hard to get out of gear. It's also not good for the shifter cable to sit at such an angle.

Frank
TWM Performance

[tk-421]

I've had the NST SSK for at least 2 years and haven't had any problems "getting out of gear" at all. Since the Piggies and NST designs are very similar, I'm not sure what Frank@TWM is referring to.

I definitely still recommend the NST SSK as one of the best investments for the Yaris (http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9846) yet.

[s3r3nity]

The main issue with this adapter is that it puts the shifter cable at a bad angle (because there is no bracket to correctly re-position the cable). This angle on the cable makes the shifter hard to get out of gear. It's also not good for the shifter cable to sit at such an angle.

Frank
TWM Performance

TRD short shifter comes with the bracket to rectify that issue and repositions the cable in line with the new height.

replicas are cheaper to buy as they dont include that bracket.

[TWM Performance]

TRD short shifter comes with the bracket to rectify that issue and repositions the cable in line with the new height.

replicas are cheaper to buy as they dont include that bracket.

Exactly.

[s3r3nity]

i have the NST full bushing set in cabin and linkage/ TRD short shifter with included adapter plate and the TWM in cabin shift arm with a 2" extention to reposition the shiter a little higher.
i have to say i really love the feel now and i did run without the plate for a while...
it was all out of lazyness... but my god it makes quite the huge difference with it installed!

no more having to throw your shifts all the time.. they are now quite smooth and easy to put in and out of gear.

[CASTREX]

I had a problem like the OP described. The cable was just to tight into the SSk.

Some WD-40 solved it. Spray the hole assembly...

[aeipee13]

i have the NST full bushing set in cabin and linkage/ TRD short shifter with included adapter plate and the TWM in cabin shift arm with a 2" extention to reposition the shiter a little higher.
i have to say i really love the feel now and i did run without the plate for a while...
it was all out of lazyness... but my god it makes quite the huge difference with it installed!

no more having to throw your shifts all the time.. they are now quite smooth and easy to put in and out of gear.

my setup is similar but using http://www.doctorisotope.com/gearswitchers. If you can handle the install it is worth it.

[eTiMaGo]

I recommend to get the NST cable bushings, it really tightened up the feel of the shifter, reduced the notchiness quite a bit!

[Brad D]

Thanks for the ifo guys.. I think I will try to move the cable mount up a bit

[MUSKOKA800]

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

I installed a Piggies just day's after I got my sedan. The stock shift pattern was far to large and rediculously sloppy. No problems thus far after 42,000 kl. of use.
Of course there is slightly more effort required due to the mechanical advantage lost by it's changing the leverage points.

In fact, I may add the NST gizmo that extends the base of the shifter to even further shorten the shift pattern and fully expect slightly more effort be required once again. Not a biggy.

[tk-421]

That "NST Gizmo" you're referring to is absolutely awesome. I installed it a few days ago and it is the perfect complement to the first SSK. Although it does shorten the throw a bit more (nothing too big), the real benefit lies in how much easier it is to get in/out of gears.

[NonStopTuning]

I have yet to hear of any negative reviews regarding the feel of the NST SSK or NST SSK-2.

In fact, there have been more positive independent reviews of the NST components for the Yaris than any other brand. Here is one independent review of all the NST drivetrain components...

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2009/01/review-and-installation-nst-short.html

The largest short shifter related thread on YW centers mainly around the NST components... pages and pages of customer reviews, thoughts, and comments on the issue and subjects surrounding the matter...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535


Good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!

:burnrubber:

[Brad D]

Id say all of the CNC'd short shifters are the same.. unless one uses a higher grade of aluminum. I bet they are all super close to the same specs.. the one thing that is going to make one better than another is if it comes with a shifter cable bracket that lifts the cable up.. Think about it.. the cable is now going up hill from where it was stock.. about a inch higher.

Had I know that the TRD one came with a bracket i would of got it.

[NonStopTuning]

While it is true that all CNC machined pieces SHOULD be the same, they often are not.

Certain machines, as well as certain companies, have better/tighter quality/tolerance controls than others.

This is not a knock against company X, nor an endorsement for company Y. It is simply stating facts that often go overlooked.

Either way, good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!

[PHXDEMON]

I had a problem like the OP described. The cable was just to tight into the SSk.

Some WD-40 solved it. Spray the hole assembly...

Do this. I also have the piggies SSK (couldn't pass it up for only 50 bucks) and the shifting is firmer but I personally like the feel a let better. Spray it down with WD40 and that should help out a lot.

[Brad D]

While it is true that all CNC machined pieces SHOULD be the same, they often are not.

Certain machines, as well as certain companies, have better/tighter quality/tolerance controls than others.

Ture but this is not aerospace, a crappy HAAS could poop these things out all day long just fine.. the aluminum would be a walk in tha park for a weaker machine.

Well my GF took the car today (5'10" and 120lbs.. arms like sticks) and she said she likes it better this way.. I guess im just being picky.. I would of thought I would of got a call "some things wrong with the car.."

im still going to see about moving the cable up.. so its not such a bind for it going upward

[CASTREX]

Do the WD-40....


As I said before... After I installed the metal bushings I had this same problem with the SSk.

It took some level of effort to move the level into gear. Mostly on the upper gears... 1st/3rd/5th

Due to the angle there was some friction beteween the SSk and the cable..

A bit of wd-40 solved the problem inmediatly... Now the shifts go in as they had butter on.... SMOOTH!
Make sure you spray all the moving parts on the cables/ssk/bushings assembly.

It should take you 1 minute.

[Brad D]

yeah i guess i should try some WD-40 before I mod the bracket...

[MGargano]

I have the NST SSK1 (engine bay) & TWM Short Shifter and am having a similar toughness in pulling/pushing in and out of gear. Is there any way to get this 'adapter plate' that comes with the TRD? Does anyone have a pic of it and/or know where it mounts?

[CASTREX]

I have the NST SSK1 (engine bay) & TWM Short Shifter and am having a similar toughness in pulling/pushing in and out of gear. Is there any way to get this 'adapter plate' that comes with the TRD? Does anyone have a pic of it and/or know where it mounts?

The toughness in your case will come from the TWM mostly.... and no fix for that.

Try the lubricant and see if that helps...

No way to get that plate other than buying a TRD SSK.

NST SSK + TWM is hardcore....:eek:

[MGargano]

I sprayed everything with WD40 yesterday and the shifting is 100% smoother. No more fighting to pull it out of gear, so I guess it's all good now.

[cali yaris]

where did you spray exactly? - I'm sure others would benefit from what you did.

[llimonce]

i installed the nst ssk yesterday without problems .. i love it !!!

[MGargano]

where did you spray exactly? - I'm sure others would benefit from what you did.

I'm not too familiar with the technical names for the different parts, but I basically tried to spray all the moving parts connecting the shifter linkage to the transmission, so I hit the NST SSK (above and below, where the linkage bushing is), the other 'arm' that takes the second NST linkage bushing, and the joints connecting both of these 'arms' to the side of the transmission.

Again, I'm sure I did a shit job explaining, but the best way to do it is to have someone sit in the car and work the shifter through all the gears. While they're doing that, spray everything you see moving and you'll end up with a short, firm shift that's MUCH more fluid moving through the gears, rather than fighting with each one like I was before.

[CASTREX]

^^^

I did the same.

I do believe however that the changed angle of the shifter cable add some friction between the ssk pin and the bushing... The pin should rotate freely inside the bushing... the lubricant should help on this task.

The feeling is 100% better and I would recomend this to al the people using the ssk.

When I first install it I just thought that was the way it was... and it didn't felt bad... just a little tough...

In my case the toughnes started after I installed the cable metal bushings

[MGargano]

I agree... I thought the toughness/tightness was the way it was supposed to feel after the SSK. The WD40 made a huge difference.

[posaunemeister]

I just purchased a Piggies a few minutes ago. I can't wait to see the results once I get it installed. Mind you, I've only been driving a manual for exactly two weeks, but by now I am good enough to notice a difference. :)

Can anyone tell me who's selling an NST 10% underdrive pulley for the cheapest price (including shipping)? Thanks in advance.

[lilredrocket]

You can get the from Cali_Yaris" aka Garm aka Yaris God @ www.microimageonline.com

[ezhacker1]

just a warning, WD-40 eats at plastics, now i dont know what exactly is plastic or close enough to it that wd-40 would eat it, but i dont want to spray anything without knowing for sure.

[XYaris]

Yea. To further the wd40 concerns.

Wd40 is a degreaser. In my experience as a bike mechanic, folks will spray this stuff on moving parts and are generally releived at the results. I'm not saying it doesn't work (although it may be short lived) but an actual lubricant may be better and less harmful to rubber/plastic bits.

Just a thought.

[posaunemeister]

Will vegetable oil work? I suppose so.