Valero fuel in your area?

[1stToyota]

I just tried a tank of Valero 87 octane (100% gas) and it was a nickle less than the Shell gas (also 100% gas) I had been using and I think it's doing well on the MPG. Driving habits haven't changed and same two extra clicks at top-off...so far about 15 extra miles at every bar on the fuel gauge, and a new record at 1/2 tank; 311 miles before guage switches from 1/2 to 3/8 was the record...313 now and still reading 1/2 on the fuel gauge.

[tuckevalastin]

There are 20 Valero stations within 20 miles of me and 2 refineries within 75 miles...

However I very rarely (I think never so far in the Yaris) use them.

[roxy1]

my opinion is when one tries something different and thinks might result in better mileage, it is easy to subconsciously drive in a more efficient manner, thus kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. i honestly dont think the shell vs valero 100% gas would make much of a difference. i could be wrong. i thought i was wrong once many years ago, but i was mistaken.

but, dude, seriously, if you want the best mileage and to add 40 hp to your yaris experience, find some 95 octane!!:evil::headbang::bellyroll:

[1stToyota]

my opinion is when one tries something different and thinks might result in better mileage, it is easy to subconsciously drive in a more efficient manner, thus kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. i honestly dont think the shell vs valero 100% gas would make much of a difference. i could be wrong. i thought i was wrong once many years ago, but i was mistaken.

but, dude, seriously, if you want the best mileage and to add 40 hp to your yaris experience, find some 95 octane!!:evil::headbang::bellyroll:

Be serious. :rolleyes:

And sorry, you're wrong. No difference in driving habits, as stated before...STILL driving 70 mph in the 65 mph zone and 65 in the 60 zones, and I'd know if I'm doing extra coasting, and I'm not, still pulling away from stop signs quicker than others around me, etc...and the flaw is that I tried it because it was cheaper, didn't "think" mileage results might be better with the switch.

[MadMax]

Valero Energy--a Fortune 500 company--is headquartered here in San Antonio, a few miles from where I live.

I often use their gas in my Yaris and Jeep and find I get better mileage out of it. If I am not mistake, Valero is unique in that unlike many other stations it only sells the gasoline they produce and doesn't buy gas from other companies as is common, so there is more consistency in their product.

Valero has 18 refineries throughout the US, Canada and the Caribbean with a combined throughput capacity of approximately 3.3 million barrels per day, making it the largest refiner in North America. It is also one of the nation's largest retail operators with more than 5,000 retail and branded wholesale outlets in the US, Canada and the Caribbean under various brand names, including Valero, Diamond Shamrock, Ultramar, Shamrock, Beacon and Total (under license from Total S.A., a French company that is big in Europe).

So, it's good gas and it may run better in your Yaris. I have also experienced that, with no difference in driving habits.

Cheers! M2

[1stToyota]

Valero Energy--a Fortune 500 company--is headquartered here in San Antonio, a few miles from where I live.

I often use their gas in my Yaris and Jeep and find I get better mileage out of it. If I am not mistake, Valero is unique in that unlike many other stations it only sells the gasoline they produce and doesn't buy gas from other companies as is common, so there is more consistency in their product.

Valero has 18 refineries throughout the US, Canada and the Caribbean with a combined throughput capacity of approximately 3.3 million barrels per day, making it the largest refiner in North America. It is also one of the nation's largest retail operators with more than 5,000 retail and branded wholesale outlets in the US, Canada and the Caribbean under various brand names, including Valero, Diamond Shamrock, Ultramar, Shamrock, Beacon and Total (under license from Total S.A., a French company that is big in Europe).

So, it's good gas and it may run better in your Yaris. I have also experienced that, with no difference in driving habits.

Cheers! M2

Good info. I think they're pretty new in my area and wanted to give them a try. I read on their site that they've grown into being the largest refiner in North America now, figured that had to be a good thing.

[roxy1]

Be serious. :rolleyes:

and the flaw is that I tried it because it was cheaper, didn't "think" mileage results might be better with the switch.

ah, somehow missed that you only got it cause it was cheaper. reading is a skill i must master. so, in this case, my theory is for sh*t. :bonk:

[1stToyota]

ah, somehow missed that you only got it cause it was cheaper. reading is a skill i must master. so, in this case, my theory is for sh*t. :bonk:

It's a pretty good theory, it just didn't apply this time. I found a better and closer Valero location to try next time...the other one almost had an out of business look to it. I even had to look to see if bags were on the other nozzles because nobody was there buying gas, and doors were locked. I knew it wasn't one of those ghost stations because I could tell it was a fully stocked c-store on the inside. Odd.

[Yaris Hilton]

The gas in our area all comes out of the same pipeline terminal. Additives put in the tank truck doubtless vary. But if you watch the trucks arrive at the stations, they tend to be from the same fuel suppliers, pretty much regardless of the brand name on the station's sign.

[Bob Dog]

I could be wrong, but when I use Valero gas for any length of time, my engines seem to act dirty. I tried if in my old chevy truck years ago, and run it on occasion in my Tacomas but haven't ever used it in the Yaris, BP or Citgo seem to give me good consistant results.

[1stToyota]

I could be wrong, but when I use Valero gas for any length of time, my engines seem to act dirty. I tried if in my old chevy truck years ago, and run it on occasion in my Tacomas but haven't ever used it in the Yaris, BP or Citgo seem to give me good consistant results.

I'll soon find out. I plan on doing 3 tanks each with my two favs + the Valero: Valero, Shell & Sinclair

[YarisOwnersDad]

I'll soon find out. I plan on doing 3 tanks each with my two favs + the Valero: Valero, Shell & Sinclair

Well, to make sure the test is unbiased, make it a blind test. Cover the headlights before driving to the gas station for each tank of gas during the trial.

:laughabove:

Tom

[supmet]

Valero is cheap trash. As bad or worse than arco.

[Bob Dog]

I avoid it whenever possible. Its the last station going out of town, the opps! I better put $5 in the tank station.

[1stToyota]

Seemed to do well so far: 42.5 mpg on that tank; 2nd highest so far this year...42.8 with Sinclair :clap:

[1stToyota]

Valero is cheap trash. As bad or worse than arco.

For me, Phillips is my choice for the absolute garbage, and it's not cheap...every single time I've tried it my mileage instantly drops off 2 to 3 mpg, and then goes right back to normal when I use any thing other than the Phillips trash.

[MadMax]

I had to fill up with Shell yesterday, and it almost seems like the car is lacking some power although it's been really windy down here in southcentral Texas so that may be a factor.

Personally, I like Chevron but find Valero runs well in all my vehicles, including my two motorcycles. In that it is usually on the cheaper side of the price scale (normally only WalMart/Murphy and HEB will beat it), I try to use it but yesterday I had driving on the rapid flashing bar for most of the day so I didn't want to run the tank dry.

Honestly, Sprocket seems to do better with cheaper costing gas (WalMart or Valero). But I am still miffed that the days of filling it up for under $20 are gone (I paid $2.45/gal yesterday, total cost was ~$28)

[detroiter]

Sinclair is still around?

I'm not sure about anyone else but here in Michigan, we have a few gas stations with the name "Firebird", they should be avoided like the plauge.

I don't think I've personally used Valero in my vehicle but used it all the time in my old jobs company van. Never really saw anything bad from the use of their gas.

[1stToyota]

3rd tank of Valero got me 43.6 mpg :thumbsup:

[YarisOwnersDad]

Sinclair is still around?

I'm not sure about anyone else but here in Michigan, we have a few gas stations with the name "Firebird", they should be avoided like the plauge.

I don't think I've personally used Valero in my vehicle but used it all the time in my old jobs company van. Never really saw anything bad from the use of their gas.

I was very pleasantly surprised to learn a couple years ago during my vaction in Idaho that Sinclair stations can still be found out West. I remember Sinclair being one of the major brands of gasoline from my childhood days, and I thought that all of the Sinclair stations became "Arco" stations sometime in the 1970s.

We "old people" like to find at least SOME things from our younger days to be still around. :smile:

Tom

[pennyracer]

Valero is cheap trash. As bad or worse than arco.

i would never buy valero fuel in my life time !!!!


chevron in my first choice

[SuperFunBall]

My former company actually did environmental consulting for Valero Energy for one of their bulk fuel terminals at a certain port. It was not one of their refineries. Needless to say all of the bulk petro that came in was from foreign countries. They had two tank farms each with dispensers for 18 wheelers. Some of them were Valero rigs (not anymore for all the Valero gas stations are no longer here) but most of them were competing gas stations (Citgo, Gate, ect.) Later that division of the compay went under NuStar. I am not sure it they are still a part of Valero and their refineries (probably the only true Valero fuel). From the map of the US that I saw in the offices they are big from Texas up thru the midwest, mostly owning pipeline and a couple of ports on the eastcoast. Just my 3 cents.

[Altitude]

I was very pleasantly surprised to learn a couple years ago during my vaction in Idaho that Sinclair stations can still be found out West. I remember Sinclair being one of the major brands of gasoline from my childhood days, and I thought that all of the Sinclair stations became "Arco" stations sometime in the 1970s.

We "old people" like to find at least SOME things from our younger days to be still around. :smile:

Tom

Sinclair still in Colorado :) and they still have that green dinosaur statue!

[Yaris Hilton]

Yeah, I remember the Sinclair dino well. And the Esso "Tiger In Your Tank" tails.

[MadMax]

Yeah, I remember the Sinclair dino well. And the Esso "Tiger In Your Tank" tails.

It's still Esso in Europe! :w00t:

[YarisOwnersDad]

I grew up in Hammond, IN, during the 1950s and 1960s, and the big name gas stations during my youth were:

Standard
Shell
Sinclair
Phiilips 66
Texaco
Clark
CitGo
Sunoco
Esso (Humble Oil & Refining Company)

I might be forgetting a couple.

Tom

[Yaris Hilton]

Another big one, at least in the South, was Pure.

Citgo used to be Cities Service.

How can we forget Amoco?

[nsmitchell]

I would cut out the topping off. http://www.epa.gov/donttopoff/

[YarisOwnersDad]

Another big one, at least in the South, was Pure.

Citgo used to be Cities Service.

How can we forget Amoco?

Yep, I had forgotten about Citgo being called Cities Service, but now that you have mentioned it, I definitely remember that.

Tom