built motor swap [pics]

[cali yaris]

7/1/09
Got the stock motor out. From the top. :eek:

I figured I'd start a new thread for the install of the built motor, tuning and dyno results.

Note: We're installing TRD motor mounts and Beatrush trans mount ("rollstopper") with the new motor.

GAPING HOLE:
http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-out.jpg

STOCK MOTOR IN THE SLING:
http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-out2.jpg

BROKEN FLYWHEEL BOLT - DAMMIT!
http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-out3.jpg

[1NZYaris1]

:eyebulge: How did you manage to break that , i take it that's of the original motor:thumbsup:

[auxmike]

Wow, super cool pics! I will definitly be following this thread.
PS;so that tiny frame scored our cars a 5 star safety rating????:eek:

[PETERPOOP]

the start of something great

[Yoda]

:coolpics:

[Treyz]

Sweet deal, Garm!

[cali yaris]

Fidanza flywheel :cry:

[The Spectacle]

Specs on the built motor? I take it piston & rods, no sleeves?

[90tsi]

i remember when i replaced the engine in my other yaris. i just dropped it out the bottom instead of taking the whole front clip apart. but i have a buddy that runs the auto craft shop on the army post so i had free run of it for as long as i needed it.

[cali yaris]

Specs on the built motor? I take it piston & rods, no sleeves?

fully sleeved, Pauter rods, CP pistons (9.5:1), ARP head studs, ported/polished head, springs.
I don't think we enlarged the valves yet.

there is a thread with pics:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10624&highlight=turbo+motor

[lilredrocket]

Its funny to see your bumper off and your NST tow hook still in its place

[kurokoma-kun]

It's weird to say a gaping hole looks good, but somehow this one does :biggrin:

Fidanza flywheel :cry:

aww but you can fix that can't you? will the flywheel come off?

[jkuchta]

Don't forget to put the larger swaybar in there while it nice and easy to do so!:smile:

[johnnypaseo]

wow looks good garm can't wait for the transplant.

[cali yaris]

@ kk : L O L

[eTiMaGo]

automobile goatse.cx? :laugh:

ahem! :redface:

[cali yaris]

7/10/09 updates.

Built motor is pretty much in. Hoping to have it fired up next Thursday. I have one more major goodie on the way and we're waiting for that to button it all up.

pic 1: I had some brackets made to hold down the pencil coils. Art's design.
pic 2 & 3: you can see the TRD motor mount on the left. :thumbsup:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-in1.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-in2.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-in3.jpg

[mikenacarato]

:) A+

[eTiMaGo]

oooooooooooooooooooo

[kurokoma-kun]

I have one more major goodie on the way and we're waiting for that to button it all up.

Radiator?

[eTiMaGo]

JATO (Jet-Assisted Take Off)?

[cali yaris]

aw, KK... :frown:

yes, custom full-width (28") aluminum radiator from C&R. Don't jinx it, given my luck it won't fit. LOL

[mikenacarato]

install it with a BFH :)

[kurokoma-kun]

given my luck it won't fit. LOL

that's what she said! :biggrin::wink:

[cali yaris]

^ OUCH !!

what's a BFH?

[Nexus1155]

LOL Big F'in Hammer... my favorite tool of all, helped me get my driveshaft off

[mikenacarato]

haha there we go!

[bikegerm]

Damn that looks cool. It's a bummer that the "Grand Poo-ba" of Yaris won't being showing this beast off at the IA in a couple of weeks. Us Nashville Yarins ain't seen no Yaris like that in these here parts !!

[mikenacarato]

haha randy...your last sentence confuses me.

[bikegerm]

Don't all us southerners have missing teeth and talk in fragmented sentences?

[mikenacarato]

i reckon so...lol

[KCALB SIRAY]

yeeeehaaaaaaaaaw, git r' done Garm!

[kngrsll]

built motor with a plastic intake, lol.

kinda like a corvette :D

[josevenezolano]

Nice, Garm. Very good job! You are spending a lot of money there!

[cali yaris]

built motor with a plastic intake, lol.

not for long :wink:

[ChinoCharles]

... f#&$in' showoff. -kicks empty pop can-


:biggrin: Good for you bud, here's to seeing it all finished.

[cali yaris]

LOL, you had it all to yourself for WEEKS !! :bow:

[1NZYaris1]

So are you going too run a sweepstake , for the first quarter mile time :biggrin:
:drinking: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :drinking:

[Lafiro]

So this is the same motor, you just made changes to it when it was out of the chassis? What do you expect it to be putting out now?

If you went this far, assuming then this si the same motor, why not put in a different one? :P

Please inform me, seems very interesting. Especially since the car lacks torque.(feels like 20HP when its 80degrees or above with the AC on)

[turboecho2005]

So this is the same motor, you just made changes to it when it was out of the chassis? What do you expect it to be putting out now?

If you went this far, assuming then this si the same motor, why not put in a different one? :P

Please inform me, seems very interesting. Especially since the car lacks torque.(feels like 20HP when its 80degrees or above with the AC on)

He built another motor on the side and swapped it in. I think he'd be putting down in the rage of 270-320hp.

Not sure why he didn't put a different one ;) There is also something amazing about building the motor that the car originally came with. Its easy to go buy another motor and throw it in and make more power but its a challenge to build the stock motor to make power.

I can't speak for Garm but i am sure he's pretty stoked to see what kind of power he can put down.

[LtNoogie]

Way to go Garm. Can't wait to drop by the shop once the craziness at work calms down.

[ChinoCharles]

The thing is going to be heeee-lariously fast. I can't wait to see it. You've got all the proper supporting mods, too. Basically the blueprint for the US version of the Vitz Cup car... only we apparently do it better. :smile:

[cali yaris]

^ I hope so after all this time and effort. We should be firing her up on Thursday. :thumbsup:

[dallas]

Congrats, you will have the most powerful (1.5+ a little) Yaris in North America if not the World.

[Parmas]

[QUOTE=cali yaris;347549]fully sleeved, Pauter rods, CP pistons (9.5:1), ARP head studs, ported/polished head, springs.
I don't think we enlarged the valves yet. [QUOTE]

What valve springs did you use on this garm? I could find any info on them on the built motor thread

[JustAnotherAsian]

^ I hope so after all this time and effort. We should be firing her up on Thursday. :thumbsup:
ooh... subscribed!
He built another motor on the side and swapped it in. I think he'd be putting down in the rage of 270-320hp.
^funny typo, but very fitting considering the context. :laugh:

[Keith Tinari]

very nice, that should be awesome when it is done. Will this be driven often or just a dedicated track car? And what kind of life span will be expected from this engine?

[cali yaris]

I've been driving my built tC motor for well over a year, so i don't really know.

mostly track, but definitely streetable.

[cali yaris]

look what came today! (yes, it will fit.... I think)

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/radiator1.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/radiator2.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/radiator3.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/radiator5.jpg

[03Z33]

SWEET! Looks sick!!

[kurokoma-kun]

look what came today! (yes, it will fit.... I think)

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/radiator2.jpg



Awwwww, this means I am no longer Garm's biggest fan?! :cry::rolleyes::biggrin::wink:

[cali yaris]

^ LOL!

You're still my BIGGEST fan :wink:

[kurokoma-kun]

^ LOL!

You're still my BIGGEST fan :wink:

Blaaah, Garm always speaks the truth :tongue:

What's the weight difference compared to stock? You using metal hose with it?

[cali yaris]

The new one is 19 lbs, 14 oz. with the housing and fans. Probably gained a few pounds with this swap.

I only got back the stock core (seems to be missing all the plastic parts), so it's difficult to compare. Also, I'm not using a/c so there are no brackets/clips for the condenser with this configuration.

[AlexNet0]

ho-ly-shit.

lol, how in the world have I missed this thread.

[ChinoCharles]

Ph33r the Garm.

[jonismyname]

soo.. uhh... will this be in "kit" form on micro-image? you know, maybe a built and broken in motor with all supporting hardware in the 2nd box?

or maybe we can do a "core" program, where we send you our yaris, and you send us a 300+hp one while you rebuild ours for the next guy?

just a thought man, i think many will agree. your way seems much harder :)

[cali yaris]

A whole car as a core. Love it. :smile:

[jonismyname]

well, maybe just the front half? thought the whole thing would be easier so you could do exhaust and swaybar too...

[jonismyname]

any news? or too busy turning wrench to update us?

[cali yaris]

got the radiator placed, but there are some minor issues with fitment. Gotta sort that out first, then the piping goes in.

Also doing some gauge swapping and modification.

[1NZYaris1]

:drool: What about the roof vent :iono: , you can't leave that out :eek:
it's been waiting almost as long :laugh:
:drinking:

[cali yaris]

that comes after drag racing, just gonna slow me down for 11 seconds :smile:

[PHXDEMON]

Awesome progress. Can't wait for vids of this beast at the track.

[scioncrew]

WHAT!! 11 second

[cali yaris]

^ haha Art, just checking to see if you were watching.

12.96 will do just fine. :biggrin:

[cali yaris]

soooo.. back to the topic... LOL

Art got the radiator in but is playing with some smaller fitment challenges. Here's a pic, you can also see what all the piping is going to look like. :wub:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-in-radiator.jpg

[josevenezolano]

Very nice!

[johnnypaseo]

wowza that looks mean, hows fitment coming along is it pretty tight with the pipes and all

[PETERPOOP]

:drool:

[cali yaris]

yeah the IC pipes are CLOSE

[Sabretooth]

So when you mean fired up by Thursday, that means next thursday...seems your project always finds a problem somewhere, lol...

Hope to see vids of it hauling ass down the road by next week, hopefully dyno by months end?

:drool:

[Parmas]

Wow that's a one big fat rad in there... I wonder if it's that necessary for a 1.6L engine like ours!

What about an oil cooler? Do you have space for it?

[cali yaris]

sabre, if he just put it back together without all the new parts I keep throwing at him, it probably would have been running yesterday. So yes, maybe next week.

Parmas, our motor is 1.5L (the built one is 1.6 though). I think my motor is going to be making some heat especially on the track, and the wimpy little radiator bugged me.

[auxmike]

Garm,
Can you post a pic with rad stuffed in the car??:clap:

[cali yaris]

^ post 68? :smile:

[auxmike]

(feeling dumb) oh......:redface:

[whooppee777]

how much did that radiator cost

[cali yaris]

$800-ish.

[1NZYaris1]

$800-ish.

:eyebulge: :cry: :redface:

[Sabretooth]

Well thats $800 too little if you dont want your $8,000+ build (turbo/second motor/parts/labor to build motor/install...) to go boom!

[whooppee777]

i want more pictures

[Yoda]

^ this

[auxmike]

Me too! Me too!:clap:

[SAKU]

looking good Garm :biggrin:

[turboecho2005]

Still eating popcorn and waiting for this beast to be ready!

[aucorium]

soooo.. back to the topic... LOL

Art got the radiator in but is playing with some smaller fitment challenges. Here's a pic, you can also see what all the piping is going to look like. :wub:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motorswap/motor-in-radiator.jpg

DUDE !! thats way hardcore !!! nice buddy !!

[jt258]

I JUST WANT TO SAY THATS A NICE FREAKIN MOTOR CONGRATS!

[PHXDEMON]

That radiator is nuts.

[1NZYaris1]

That radiator is nuts.

So is it's owner/driver :biggrin:
i mean who else would try and pack 3 yaris engines(hp wise) into
one outragiously moded yaris .
Although i must admit i am just a little jealous :laugh:
Awsome work Garm keep it up

AND MORE PIC's

[cali yaris]

7/23, ok here is some pics, showing the motor going in, some of the piping and the new electric water pump (www.meziere.com).

Also decided to go all AEM on the gauges. I think it's just about ready to fill it up and fire it up. :biggrin:

Yes, I am nuts. Sorry.

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/01.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/02.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/03.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/04.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/05.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/06.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/07.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/08.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/09.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/10.jpg

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/11.jpg

[eTiMaGo]

engine bay packed with nutritious goodness :biggrin:

[ChinoCharles]

Three words: strip that interior! This ain't no grocery getter anymore!

Props on using the stock intake manifold! I want to see if that thing is going to hold up. I know you're replacing it soon, but if it starts and lets you hit WOT once with that plastic mani I'll be impressed!

Can't wait to see this done. You're a true community asset, Mr. Garm.

[cali yaris]

thanks chino. :bow:

ha, that's an xB mani too!

Not enough time to make the intake mani right now, I want to get this running and upgrade that later (flanges are on the way but not here yet)

[CASTREX]

Fire that dam thing up already! :evil:


Lots, lots of vids please :biggrin:

[kurokoma-kun]

7/23, ok here is some pics, showing the motor going in, some of the piping and the new electric water pump (www.meziere.com (http://www.meziere.com)).

Also decided to go all AEM on the gauges. I think it's just about ready to fill it up and fire it up. :biggrin:

Yes, I am nuts. Sorry.

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/motor/july23/06.jpg


Whooo, fit's mighty tight against the new fan shroud! Well... not much more than a whisker's clearance anywhere in engine bay now :laugh: Way to cram-a-lam it in there, can't wait to hear it :clap:

[cali yaris]

yeah, and that's without A/C, washer fluid reservoir, and minus 2 pulleys :smile:

[kurokoma-kun]

yeah, and that's without A/C, washer fluid reservoir, and minus 2 pulleys :smile:

Nice

So, what you gonna do when that windshield gets dirty?? JR hops out of the hatch with a little spray bottle and squeegee? :biggrin::wink:

[cali yaris]

It's a special windshield with nanobots - it will never get dirty. That's how deep I roll.

[lilredrocket]

Haha

[josevenezolano]

OMG, Garm.. That's a nice motor.. Good job.. I'm wonder how many hp do you have there.. Congrats. Do you have a Blackberry ? LOL.

[cali yaris]

I have a Palm Pre. Dunno on the hp yet, we'll see.

[llimonce]

how many hp at the wheels ??

[Parmas]

Nice and tight there! Congrats

You have too much gauges in there better look at the road with that horsepower :)

[PETERPOOP]

OMG

[Crandall]

I gotta ask are those gauges really that visible in their current location. It just seems to me (or at least with my driving position) looking down to see what the gauges are saying seems counter productive.

[auxmike]

+1 Can you really read them at that angle?

[PETERPOOP]

i copied garm's setup; However, I chose to use autometer's angled rings (the gauges sit in them). It gives it a slight tilt forward so easier viewing. However, when test fitted without the rings; The guages were still EASILY viewable and did not seem like something that would be hard to look at while driving ( even at WOT ).

here are mine: http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16660

[Treyz]

Hey Garm, you ain't got nothing on me guy!

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20568

[cali yaris]

I've been driving with the gauges there for some time. They are very easy to read, and don't obstruct any view out the windshield in that position. I think the AEM's will be even easier than the Phantom II's I had there before.

This is one of those things everyone had doubts about, but I did it anyway. Sometimes my experiments aren't successful, but this works.

[cali yaris]

LOL @ Treyz, good one!

[cali yaris]

JULY 27 update:

motor is primed, fluids are in. Left to do:

1. water temp sensor
2. new gauges - details
3. weld up the large hole in my custom exhaust :eek: (somehow I ripped a hanger right off the resonator)

[Kaotic Lazagna]

How did #3 happen?

[cali yaris]

probably on a speed bump - the metal of the resonator is thin, so it's easy to rip off a hanger from there.

[1NZYaris1]

:wink: hitting speed bumps at speed will not help you fly,
i thought you knew that already :iono: :laugh:


:burnrubber:

[turboecho2005]

:drinking:

[cali yaris]

built motor fired up fine today, woot! -- Art's a frigging genius :bow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnKzRHFxeg8

[auxmike]

Congrats!
Can you post a vid showing more car, less computer?
Also, got better quality?
Sorry to be picky, but i want a good look at that puppy!
Good job!:thumbup:

[cali yaris]

I'm going down there on Sunday will shoot more clips then. I'm just excited it runs!

[jkuchta]

bitchin'!!!

When are we going to Irwindale!?

[johnnypaseo]

this is gonna be awesome

[turboecho2005]

Finally ;) I can't wait to see this beast in action

[Parmas]

I wish mine idles like that ! Well done although better quality is expected :)

[cali yaris]

more idling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQtyc9skq4

not quite ready to street drive yet

[CtrlAltDefeat]

hey garm, could this be done with a daily driver, such as leaving the AC in and everything?

[cali yaris]

sure, why not? I plan to drive the car a lot!

[CtrlAltDefeat]

well, I know you stripped out the AC, and I'm willing to bet you've changed some parts to increase power/increase noise/decrease comfort... My real dream is to do a sports luxury conversion... turbo built motor + premium interior/ICE (trimming weight as much as possible to keep the sport side of things) so I was wondering if everything you've done will fit with the AC intact

[ka0sx]

more idling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQtyc9skq4

not quite ready to street drive yet

ITS GOOOD! (box punt)

[cali yaris]

You could keep the A/C with everything I've done except the custom radiator (no room for the a/c condenser with mine). I ran this car for months after it was turbo'd; there's nothing different with a built motor looking at it from the outside.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

hmmm but the custom radiator is necessary?

[cali yaris]

not for a street car, in my opinion.

[Keith Tinari]

okay so wheres the street vid!

[cali yaris]

quoting myself: not quite ready to street drive yet

:smile: as soon as it's broken in. Dyno tuning will be in approx. two weeks.

[Keith Tinari]

Im very excite!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/rapmasta66x/BoratThumbsUp.jpg

[auxmike]

more idling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQtyc9skq4

not quite ready to street drive yet

Wow , those fans really scream!:eek:

[1NZYaris1]

:biggrin: Stop Teaseing us , already , you gotta drive it to break it in :iono:


:rolleyes: It's alright Garm , just winding you up :laugh:


:respekt:

:drinking:

[Treyz]

That vid brought a tear to my eye. And now I go to bed.

Garm, I'm gonna call you tomorrow.

[Parmas]

Just curious why did you install the AEM boost solenoid on the intake?

BTW pros for the quality video there!

[cali yaris]

why not?

[Parmas]

why not?

I don't think it fits to be in the engine bay, I decided to fit it into the inner dash which is protected more from heat there and tubing is well more organized in dash. But that is just my opinion :)

And I like hearing the solenoid clicking when boost activates and it seems like the bov sound is heard from the sintered muffler. I wsh I took pics of the installation but I was too exited to make it work :)

[cali yaris]

I would rather keep the vacuum/bost lines in the engine bay, and the runs as short as possible. I don't think the temp of those lines is going to make you any more or less power.

But that is just MY opinion, there are plenty of people on here that know more than me. :smile:

[Parmas]

I would rather keep the vacuum/bost lines in the engine bay, and the runs as short as possible. I don't think the temp of those lines is going to make you any more or less power.

But that is just MY opinion, there are plenty of people on here that know more than me. :smile:

Length is not a problem neither since turbo pressure, wastegate and bov infront of the driver side. I will try to post some pics about these

[cali yaris]

since turbo pressure, wastegate and bov infront of the driver side. '

not so on my car. :smile:

[bikegerm]

If you don't bring this beast to IA next year in Nashville you're gonna have a mutiny on your hands !! Trailer it up with your TC & Jill's hatch and the two of ya' can drive cross country. "Driving Miss Daisy" :laugh:

See ya' next July !

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Yea, I might make the 4 hour trip to see that :biggrin:

[eii]

Oh man I cant wait for videos of this thing flyin! Lovin' the red in the engine bay btw, so sexy.

[cali yaris]

very soon now. Art says I can pick her up and drive it (nicely) for about 500 miles. Then it's ready to get thrashed about on the dyno.

Planning on Sunday morning pick up.

[lilredrocket]

When you pick it up drive that 500 miles that day. I wanna see some numbers!!

[PETERPOOP]

Planning on Sunday morning pick up.

Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll? :wink:

[blacksandiegovitz]

Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll? :wink:

^^^ Yeah Garm , any updates :thumbsup:

[eTiMaGo]

he's outside having waaaay too much fun :biggrin:

[cali yaris]

picked it up. Runs perfect. TRD motor mounts and the trans mount add a little noise/vibration, but it's not unbearable on the street. Spools nice, drives great. I have to be nice to it for 350 more miles. :biggrin:

[Keith Tinari]

sounds like a trip up and down the coast. hop to it man!

[PETERPOOP]

i want more videos!!!!!!

[goku87]

dyno! :thumbsup: dyno! :thumbsup: dyno! :thumbsup: dyno! :thumbsup: dyno! :thumbsup:

[coffiend]

Knock those miles out quick so you can have some fun and entertain us all

[cali yaris]

discovered the rev limit is over 7k... LOL :rolleyes:

[coffiend]

I'm getting anxious!

[1NZYaris1]

discovered the rev limit is over 7k... LOL :rolleyes:


That's not being nice :iono: , unless you mean being music too your ear's :thumbup:

[soloecho2]

Hey Garm looking good. I know this question comes a little late but do you know what the tread is on the water drain in the block on the exhaust side ? I would like to install my water temp sensor there. The sensor is 1/8 NPT and i am pretty sure the block won't be. Thanks

[cali yaris]

ooh good question, I can find out, I know we used that for a sensor also.

[mikenacarato]

garm....still looks amazing! keep it up!

[SilverBack]

Congrats on the amazing upgrades, Garm! Can't wait to see the dyno results and first track run :thumbsup:

May I suggest that you get a 2nd license plate for all the haters out there? "IOWNYOU" sounds just about right :biggrin:

[Treyz]

Heard that bad boyt over the phone today lol .. couldn't hear Garm at first.