New mods.. now let's see it in 1/4 mile [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

t0m4s

07-06-2009, 06:59 PM

i need to clean a little bit the engine bay :biggrin: but here are a few new mods (thanks Garm)
Engine Damper

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2166.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2165.jpg

NST Short Shifter in cabin (not yet installed)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2175.jpg

NST Shifter Cage and Cable Bushing Kit (not yet installed cuz there is one ring missing (already bought it))

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2180.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2174.jpg

today i will take better pics... pics not posted engine bay ssk, new front grille (09 one) painted and installed, and the eyelids (need to paint and install them) :evil:

t0m4s

07-07-2009, 02:04 AM

Engine Bay NST Short Shifter

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2182.jpg

new smile for my car =) :biggrin: seddan 09 grill installed

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2183.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2184.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2185.jpg

dallas

07-07-2009, 02:36 AM

So what are you running in the quarter mile?

t0m4s

07-07-2009, 02:38 AM

So what are you running in the quarter mile?

my yaris

Jeemee

07-07-2009, 06:13 AM

:laughabove:

hatchbackkid82

07-07-2009, 09:04 AM

wait..... none of those mods are really going to help you in the 1/4 mile. You didn't add any power

t0m4s

07-07-2009, 11:33 AM

wait..... none of those mods are really going to help you in the 1/4 mile. You didn't add any power

i know that i didnt add any power... but there is less time shifting and with the engine damper the torque get down to the wheels..
i know i will not get such an animal in the track but it has to be better than my 16.39s i did last time (considering that the track here doesnt have grid)

dallas

07-08-2009, 03:01 AM

So what are you running in the quarter, with the current mods?

The new "no horsepower" mods won't help make it faster only smoother but Im still interested what you end up running.

Your shifting is only as fast as your clutch engagement, the short shifter won't speed you up! trust me :biggrin:

i know that i didnt add any power... but there is less time shifting and with the engine damper the torque get down to the wheels..
i know i will not get such an animal in the track but it has to be better than my 16.39s i did last time (considering that the track here doesnt have grid)

t0m4s

07-08-2009, 11:52 AM

So what are you running in the quarter, with the current mods?

The new "no horsepower" mods won't help make it faster only smoother but Im still interested what you end up running.

Your shifting is only as fast as your clutch engagement, the short shifter won't speed you up! trust me :biggrin:

as i posted above " i know that i didnt add any power... but there is less time shifting and with the engine damper the torque get down to the wheels.."

ammophobia

07-08-2009, 12:58 PM

does the 09 grill have the exact same size that it fits with no problem? I'd like to get one also :)

Lafiro

07-08-2009, 02:21 PM

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

07-08-2009, 02:42 PM

^^
if you have ever owned a five speed car and dumped the clutch the hop you experienced is supposed to be diminished with the torque damper. DON"T KNOW CAUSE I DON"T OWN ONE!

the shifter piece does infact shorten throws but as to its effect on actual shifting of gears is debated.I OWN ONE AND RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE FOR ANY EASILY INSTALLED MOD......

YarisSedan

07-08-2009, 02:51 PM

wait..... none of those mods are really going to help you in the 1/4 mile. You didn't add any power

what are you talking about! the 09 grill adds like 50 horsepower

CASTREX

07-08-2009, 03:22 PM

I dont get it.

All the torque damper does is cause more engine vibration to get to the chassis, and all it does is allow you to feel the engine kick into each gear, and what will that do? Annoy most people, and it will NOT make your car faster as the torque is never changed!

Ugh what a gimmick I swear. I mean if you do a lot of shifting, then I guess having the torque get to the ground 0.3? seconds faster is worth it?

Have you ever experienced wheel hop?
Unless you have dropped your clutch on first gear at 4,500rpm then you probably haven't.

A torque damper should help control the wheel hop.

From the OP's signature banner you can tell our friend actually takes his car to a drag strip. (wheter the Yaris is fast or not is not the point here)

Anyone who has ever been on a Drag race would be able to tell you what 0.3 seconds mean.

At 80+ MPH it means around 2 car lenghts.

cali yaris

07-08-2009, 04:46 PM

^ +1.

engine torque dampers are not a gimmick. Sorry Lafiro you're incorrect on this one. Do you also think stiffer motor mounts are a gimmick?

http://www.ingallseng.com/stiffy-benefits.html

Tamago

07-08-2009, 04:48 PM

^^
if you have ever owned a five speed car and dumped the clutch the hop you experienced is supposed to be diminished with the torque damper.....

so, to be faster in the 1/4 it would be recommended to learn how to operate the clutch and gears over spending money?

Tamago

07-08-2009, 04:51 PM

the cure to wheel hop in the yaris would come mostly from a semi-solid lower dogbone, not a shock absorber bolted to your strut tower ;)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/t0m4s05/IMG_2166.jpg

curious, what keeps the torque damper from just bending the metal of the strut tower inward, since the "chassis" mount does not triangulate? unless i'm missing something in the picture?

edit, finally saw what they're doing in the second pic.. my bad..

get a semisolid dogbone mount next!

cali yaris

07-08-2009, 05:06 PM

I just got some TRD hard rubber rollstoppers in from Japan. don't have pricing yet, but this will pretty much eliminate engine movement.

CASTREX

07-08-2009, 05:42 PM

^^^

Does TRD makes dogbones for the Yaris? I know they had the other mounts.

Pictures please!!

ChinoCharles

07-08-2009, 06:22 PM

First time to the track I missed second 4 times out of 12 or so runs. My theory is that the engine was bucking around too much and throwing the linkage out of alignment. After installing the damper I got from Garm I only missed second once in 12 runs. Not bad on a stock clutch.

So yeah, the torque damper does help, both with getting power to the ground and keeping your cables where they ought to be.

cali yaris

07-08-2009, 06:40 PM

@Castrex:

TRD Rollstopper:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/products/engine/TRD/TRD-rollstopper.jpg

TRD motor mounts:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/products/engine/TRD/TRD-motormounts.jpg

I have various other TRD bushings I also received for the Yaris. :wub:

Tamago

07-08-2009, 07:02 PM

that's a gorgeous part Garm. i find it sad that "TRD" went to all the effort but didn't do urethane inserts though :(

YarisSedan

07-08-2009, 07:11 PM

hmmmm i want these ic ant stand how much engine movement our cars have. I thought i had a broken motor mount and had another tech in my shop check while i pushed on the gas witht he foot on the brake. but no our engines just have that much excessive movement because of the crappy mounts.

Tamago

07-08-2009, 07:21 PM

t0m4s

07-08-2009, 07:26 PM

does the 09 grill have the exact same size that it fits with no problem? I'd like to get one also :)

yes it fits perfectly without problems

what are you talking about! the 09 grill adds like 50 horsepower

LOL:bellyroll: the grill part is just an extra bro

YarisSedan

07-09-2009, 01:24 PM

it's the dogbone mount that's the problem. an "engine dampener" is a band-aid IMO

yeah but a quick and easy bandaid that looks cool under the hood. Priced about the same as replacing the dogbone mount.

I would consider changing the dogbone but one that is not too sollid. Kinda a middle ground.

Tamago

07-09-2009, 06:53 PM

yeah but a quick and easy bandaid that looks cool under the hood. Priced about the same as replacing the dogbone mount.

I would consider changing the dogbone but one that is not too sollid. Kinda a middle ground.

ahhh

yes. the reason it's purchased most of the time any. car show points lol.

CASTREX

07-09-2009, 07:18 PM

I just picked up a TRD dogbone from Garm!! :thumbsup:

Is cheaper than the urethane beatrush one and I hope it will provide a mild improvement over the stock bone...

I've read reviews about the full urethane one and accoridng to a couple of people it was a bit to hardcore for every day use.

cali yaris

07-09-2009, 07:38 PM

I'm putting one in my car too. More ordered and on the way -- I intend to stock a bunch of TRD mounts and bushings.

YarisSedan

07-09-2009, 10:37 PM

please post reviews of the trd mounts once they are installed i may have to put this on my list of mods to get

Yarold n Kumar

07-09-2009, 10:59 PM

I see you're smoking a tiburon in the photo. Did you actually beat it down the track?

t0m4s

07-10-2009, 11:37 AM

I see you're smoking a tiburon in the photo. Did you actually beat it down the track?

:thumbsup: yep :evil: it was a stock V6 tiburon

Tamago

07-10-2009, 11:58 AM

:thumbsup: yep :evil: it was a stock V6 tiburon

guy must not be able to drive then.

severous01

07-10-2009, 12:40 PM

So what are you running in the quarter, with the current mods?

The new "no horsepower" mods won't help make it faster only smoother but Im still interested what you end up running.

Your shifting is only as fast as your clutch engagement, the short shifter won't speed you up! trust me :biggrin:

i gained .4 seconds by adding tires, control arms, and a lightweight driveshaft to my camaro...so dont tell me that a 'no HP mod' wont take time off your quarter.

arcticvitz

07-10-2009, 12:40 PM

guy must not be able to drive then.

Kind words once again form Tamago! :clap:

Tamago

07-10-2009, 01:19 PM

Kind words once again form Tamago! :clap:

never said anything unkind about the OP did i? ;)

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

07-10-2009, 02:31 PM

that's a gorgeous part Garm. i find it sad that "TRD" went to all the effort but didn't do urethane inserts though :(

TRD and EFFORT in the same sentence:laugh: all they did was slap their label on the part like the rest of their parts......

Tamago

07-10-2009, 02:46 PM

TRD and EFFORT in the same sentence:laugh: all they did was slap their label on the part like the rest of their parts......

hence the "TRD"

Lafiro

07-11-2009, 09:38 AM

I knew that I was going to be bashed :( But this seems to happen when to people when any comments are made towards performance mods.

Can I just say this then? Why gain .3 seconds on a car thats 100hp? Its an economical car, not a drag strip car lol.

Only thing after that is added vibration.

Liltoaster

07-12-2009, 06:09 AM

I'd be curious to see what kinda improments the mounts and the shifter improvments would do on your car.

Wow no one is actually putting down some numbers........ My Echo (sorry not a yaris) ran a 15.23 at Mission Racways the other weekend. Rolling on street tires still :)

Anyone else put down some numbers at the track?

ChinoCharles

07-12-2009, 11:03 PM

14.9x was my car's best time, but I didn't make the run. Driver mod is sometimes the best mod.

Garm should be running -4's in a couple weeks.

Why gain .3 seconds on a car thats 100hp? Its an economical car, not a drag strip car lol

Because we can. Fuel economy forum FTW for you. :laugh:

dallas

07-13-2009, 04:05 AM

Liltoaster

07-14-2009, 03:51 PM

Stiffer dog bone mounts will make shifting under hard acceleration smoother andwill limit engine movement, they may prevent wheel hop too. For people who cant afford the TRD ones a cheap "Hot Rod" trick is to buy windshield urathane and fill the stock mounts cavities with it. Any of these mods will transfer a lot more vibration into the cab of the car.
Cheers.

That is one issue that I am having with my car at the trck is Wheel Hop :mad: Even with 215/50/15's with a sticky tread I still hope away and that's with full suspension.

Im thinking that might be my next mod on my car.

ChinoCharles 14.9x was my car's best time, but I didn't make the run. Driver mod is sometimes the best mod.

Garm should be running -4's in a couple weeks.

What setup you running to get this time?

ChinoCharles

07-14-2009, 04:01 PM

14b turbo @ 6.5 PSI w/ all the trimmings, custom straight pipe, NST pulleys all around, lightweight wheels. I think that about does it.

Liltoaster

07-14-2009, 04:46 PM

14b turbo @ 6.5 PSI w/ all the trimmings, custom straight pipe, NST pulleys all around, lightweight wheels. I think that about does it.

Nice setup!! And you have had no issues running on a stock motor so far?

ChinoCharles

07-14-2009, 05:50 PM

Not yet, knock on my big wooden desk. I think the motor worries are a total myth myself. If Tamago didn't blow that xA up, we should be fine.

Tamago

07-14-2009, 06:56 PM

Not yet, knock on my big wooden desk. I think the motor worries are a total myth myself. If Tamago didn't blow that xA up, we should be fine.

also remember i only put down 155whp and 150tq to your claimed 180whp or whatever..

;)

the transmission is going to be the first thing to go, especially if you keep banging gears in a straight line :iono:

oh and keep in mind, i blew a completely stock 1nzfe up on the freeway. snapped a connecting rod. no turbo, no nitrous, no anything.

cali yaris

07-14-2009, 07:36 PM

Can I just say this then? Why gain .3 seconds on a car thats 100hp? Its an economical car, not a drag strip car lol.

You can say it. And you can be wrong to judge others negatively for what they want to do with their vehicles. That's why you got bashed before.

I'll take the .3 seconds, if my goal is to go faster.

Liltoaster

07-14-2009, 08:58 PM

also remember i only put down 155whp and 150tq to your claimed 180whp or whatever..

;)

the transmission is going to be the first thing to go, especially if you keep banging gears in a straight line :iono:

oh and keep in mind, i blew a completely stock 1nzfe up on the freeway. snapped a connecting rod. no turbo, no nitrous, no anything.

Transmission will take alot of abuse trust me!!! I know of a 200hp Yaris who's tranny is still good condition with no issues that has been down the track a few times on slicks.... the motor on the other hand didn't make it:laugh:

Personally I just need to find traction to get it going faster.... im going to run a pair of slicks to see if I can brake into the 14's