Garm's AFE intake vs. TRD high flow air filter????

[computerlove87]

I am trying to decide if I should go with the AFE intake on micro-image or the trd high-flow filter. My main interests are low maintenance, fuel efficiency, sound, and a little bit of a performance gain, the price isn't as important if the AFE is really worth twice as much.

Does anyone who has used either solution have anything to say? How is the performance, fuel mileage with each? Would Toyota dealers not honor my warranty because of the AFE intake? Overall is the AFE really worth 2x more $? Any suggestions are helpful.

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[Kioshi]

They won't honor your warranty if a CEL or anything is to backfire from the intake... they didnt honor my Fujita F% last time i went there for a problem~~
If you have TRD CAI AND installed by them, they will warranty it then, and only then~

AFE is easier to maintain, clean filter, etc...I dont have to much insight on it, but a lot of people on here are happy w/ it :)

[PETERPOOP]

aFe FTW

[Brian]

They won't honor your warranty if a CEL or anything is to backfire from the intake... they didnt honor my Fujita F% last time i went there for a problem~~
If you have TRD CAI AND installed by them, they will warranty it then, and only then~

AFE is easier to maintain, clean filter, etc...I dont have to much insight on it, but a lot of people on here are happy w/ it :)

TRD CAI does not have a warranty because its for off road use only no matter if its installed
by the dealer or not.

[Yoda]

TRD CAI does not have a warranty because its for off road use only no matter if its installed
by the dealer or not.

Not true all TRD parts if installed by your dealer is under warranty. Your dealer must suck. Cause up here they will even locate the parts for u:wink:

[Qmobile]

acaully it says that it's for off road use on online 2 trduasa.com

[Brian]

Not true all TRD parts if installed by your dealer is under warranty. Your dealer must suck. Cause up here they will even locate the parts for u:wink:

That only applies to TRD parts approved for highway use. Check the TRD website for the warranty
info. It states that there is no warranty for the off road use only products. Whether or not your
dealership will warranty the part is up to them but TRD will not.

[Sparks Toyota-TRD]

TRD parts are covered under warranty. TRD parts have a parts based warranty as well if installed by a dealer a labor warranty. Don't let your dealer tell you otherwise. They have to prove to you otherwise.

If you install a TRD part you still have a parts warranty on that product and the dealership has to prove your install is what broke the TRD part.


Tim

[computerlove87]

Actually I was talking about the TRD high flow air filter:

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It is basically just a deep pleet oil media replacement for the crappy paper filter that comes stock. The TRD cai system is like $1,000! \

It seems like everyone pretty much agrees though that the AEM is a lot better even though it costs more than 3X more?

[cali yaris]

AEM? I thought we were comparing this filter to the aFe intake.

The aFe intake has larger piping throughout, so it's actually a replacement for the whole intake system, ending at the throttle body.

[Tamago]

AFE. all the way. and i don't even own one (stock airbox and stock air filter here lol)

[Kioshi]

computerlove87, get the TRD CAI from Sparks...its like $300...or get Garm's AFE for under $200?

Thanks for clearing up Tim... Some of your guy's dealerships like to throw false info at you, dont let them do that... My service managers have specifically said TRD are under warranty if installed by dealers...they didnt cover the (install yourself) and you still have parts warranty w/ me because they were looking to make money off of me~~

[kngrsll]

i just ordered an aFE, i think its one of the best looking* intakes ive seen made for a car in awhile.

*in regards to function rather than form lol

[Tamago]

furthermore an aftermarket intake won't void any portion of your warranty in any way unless it is directly responsible for the failure of the warantee'd part.

[kngrsll]

furthermore an aftermarket intake won't void any portion of your warranty in any way unless it is directly responsible for the failure of the warantee'd part.

i love that law

[Tamago]

i love that law

it blows me away that people don't know about a law that is older than most individuals ON THE BOARD itself.

[Kioshi]

i just ordered an aFE, i think its one of the best looking* intakes ive seen made for a car in awhile.l

It looks a lot like the Typhoon intake from K&N, but wayyyy cheaper :wink:

[ezhacker1]

Another thing to think about if you go the AFE route is which filter to get: Pro Dry S, Pro 5R, or Pro-Guard 7. I believe it ranges from highest air flow/least filtration > least/most filtration but still better flow over OEM.

[kngrsll]

It looks a lot like the Typhoon intake from K&N, but wayyyy cheaper :wink:

ironically, i said the same thing about the K&N when it came out... except that i cant stand oiled filters so the AFE is better in my opinion.

[1NZYaris1]

Go The AFE Dry , you won't regret it , i have had mine on for 20,000KM +
and no problems or CEL's what so ever . :thumbsup:

[cali yaris]

I have the oiled filters in stock, but so far no one has gone for that option. Everyone likes the easy maintenance of the dry filters better.

[Sparks Toyota-TRD]

We also off a Fujita intake from us for $155 on our website.

http://www.trdsparks.com/displayparts.php?Mdl_dtl=638&Part_cat=2&parts_id=2351



Tim

[kngrsll]

Most reviews i have read on filter performance fall along these same lines: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/

so it appears to me, the dry media work best, with the oiled media second, and the foam/stainless filters finishing worst. so that may explain some discrepency in sales.

[scape]

How is the performance, fuel mileage with each?
I would like to know this as well; with all else stock, I don't expect much of a change, if any; I don't know how anemic the stock air-box was to begin with but I don't think any real gains are going to be seen with a stock setup. Maybe someone has a Dyno to show the direct gains?

[ezhacker1]

i was looking up on some more info between the Pro Dry S and the Pro 5r http://www.dieselmanor.com/afe/afe.asp

so the oiled one (Pro 5R) has more air flow over the Dry S, maybe it would come down to ease of maintenance which would be the dry one, and how the air pollution is around where you live.

[cali yaris]

According to aFE, the oiled media has more airflow (as noted above) than dry, and therefore makes a tiny bit more power.

On our cars, with low horsepower to start with, this difference is negligible, so the dry makes more sense (lower maintenance).

[ezhacker1]

really? i assumed given our low horsepower, a number would have a bigger percentage increase over same number on a higher horsepower engine. Either way, i was also thinking that hte one with more airflow would sound better, but then again im on stock exhaust.

[scape]

i think the stock airbox might breathe rather efficiently as is, for stock setup. i think to fully use those ram air and such intakes, more modification is needed; but I'm just guessing here

[1NZYaris1]

On a stock set up then why bother putting in the TRD filter setup :iono:.
My engine only has the NST pullies and the AFE intake , and between the
2 , there is a marked differrance in response and fuel economy .
All Positive .:thumbsup: