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Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 02:08 PM
Anyone running 13's on a Yaris?

I still need to get around to doing the measurements, but figured I'd see if anyone was running them.

NCP91 specifically, all though if someone has them on a newer Sedan that would be helpful too.

:smile:

Loren
07-20-2009, 02:15 PM
The 13" alloys from my Tercel didn't clear the front brake calipers. Other wheels might, I think I've heard of some success running 13's.

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 02:17 PM
The 13" alloys from my Tercel didn't clear the front brake calipers. Other wheels might, I think I've heard of some success running 13's.

yeah, i searched and found a few threads.

I'm looking at doing a 13x10 with a 255, so they'd be a custom wheel.

it looks like it "may" be possible though.

I'll have to take the measurements and see if they'll work with some custom wheels. :smile:

that new 255/40/13 hoosier is AWESOME. :w00t:

i guess the other question is, will a 255 be able to turn at all in the little yaris fender well....

i probably wouldn't need 255 in the rear...hmm, just thinking out loud.

the question is.....will I rub? :wink:

-Drew

Tamago
07-20-2009, 02:38 PM
as long as the offset is +43 it doesn't matter HOW WIDE the wheel is. you won't rub with a +43!!!!!!oneoneone11111eleventy!!!!!!11!!1!1

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 02:40 PM
well the Silkroads would have issues with a 10" wheel and a high offset so i'll have to do some math there.

leaning towards getting some stiffer springs front and rear to stiffen everything up.

the 255 is significantly shorter than stock so i'll have extra tire/fender clearance.

guess I just need to order one and see if the wheel turns.....:D

Tamago
07-20-2009, 02:42 PM
if not, it'll make a cool foot-stool in your house :D

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 03:22 PM
we tried a 13x8 miata wheel at Roebling last time i was there and it didnt fit. no idea about brand or specs, but it was a pretty low offset too.

Tamago
07-20-2009, 03:33 PM
we tried a 13x8 miata wheel at Roebling last time i was there and it didnt fit. no idea about brand or specs, but it was a pretty low offset too.

where did it touch the caliper? at the "front" or because of the diameter?

thebarber
07-20-2009, 03:33 PM
mojoyaris:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3588234194_2bb521f72c.jpg?v=0

Tamago
07-20-2009, 03:46 PM
13"x7.5" Lenso VPD wheels, silver and gold on Toyo R888 GG comp 225x45x13

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 03:51 PM
so it looks like it really depends on the wheel.

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 03:58 PM
i think it hit on the caliper.

Tamago
07-20-2009, 03:59 PM
i think it hit on the caliper.

yes, but where on the caliper is what i'm asking, front or "outer diameter" ?

scape
07-20-2009, 04:15 PM
mojoyaris:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3588234194_2bb521f72c.jpg?v=0

I like that look! wonder what it looks like w/o the ground kit

33OH
07-20-2009, 04:50 PM
I like that look! wonder what it looks like w/o the ground kit

:wink: Done up quick.

scape
07-20-2009, 05:07 PM
nice, haha-- that was quick!

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 05:26 PM
13's look awesome!

Tamago
07-20-2009, 05:48 PM
do it now! 13X10 works?

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 05:55 PM
the Work Wheels don't come in 13's at least the readily available ones.

There were a few custom companies I was looking at, gotta find them again.

Tamago
07-20-2009, 05:55 PM
the Work Wheels don't come in 13's at least the readily available ones.

There were a few custom companies I was looking at, gotta find them again.

you should look into Centerline. i hear they make the strongest wheels in the world.

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 05:57 PM
you should look into Centerline. i hear they make the strongest wheels in the world.

:bellyroll:

I'll pass. I'll think of something. :)

Tamago
07-20-2009, 05:59 PM
:bellyroll:

I'll pass. I'll think of something. :)

do they have to be from teh japanz to pass your scrutiny?

i vote compomotive

http://www.comp.co.uk/productpics/wheels/CXR1381_l.jpg

freakin sexy as hell!

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 06:11 PM
yes, but where on the caliper is what i'm asking, front or "outer diameter" ?

ah, i dunno, i cant remember.

scape
07-20-2009, 06:18 PM
how much would this shift rpm/speed? I'd imagine auto-x the powerband would be sitting in the sweet spot more often

Tamago
07-20-2009, 06:49 PM
how much would this shift rpm/speed? I'd imagine auto-x the powerband would be sitting in the sweet spot more often

depends on the tire size he chooses :)

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 06:57 PM
depends on the tire size he chooses :)

arent 13" tires hard to come by now?

Tamago
07-20-2009, 07:00 PM
arent 13" tires hard to come by now?

not at all. remember this is for track purposes. hoosier, kumho, hankook.. i believe that covers it

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 07:02 PM
not at all. remember this is for track purposes. hoosier, kumho, hankook.. i believe that covers it

oh yeah? i thought i overheard that somewhere. are they cheaper than 15's?

Tamago
07-20-2009, 07:04 PM
oh yeah? i thought i overheard that somewhere. are they cheaper than 15's?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hoosier&tireModel=R6&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=245ZR3R6&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

$188 for 13"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hoosier&tireModel=R6&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=245ZR5R6&fromCompare1=yes&place=3

$217 for 15"

255 40 13 for $207!!!!! http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hoosier&tireModel=A6&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=54ZR3A6&fromCompare1=yes&place=0

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 07:06 PM
nice, thats pretty substantial savings! i guess i could have looked, but now its documented LOL

sore throat is bumming me out though

Tamago
07-20-2009, 07:08 PM
sore throat is bumming me out though

hey, whatever it takes to get you out of a speeding ticket eh? *cough cough*

kngrsll
07-20-2009, 07:12 PM
LOL, i paid it in full today :( shit sucked

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 07:34 PM
do they have to be from teh japanz to pass your scrutiny?

i vote compomotive

http://www.comp.co.uk/productpics/wheels/CXR1381_l.jpg

freakin sexy as hell!

not a requirement but it's a plus.

Compomotive is at the top right now actually. but shhhh don't tell anyone. :wink:

Tamago
07-20-2009, 07:38 PM
better be BLACK hahah riiiiiiiight

Penguin Garage
07-20-2009, 07:38 PM
Joel you're evil.

255/40/13 and 225/45/13 are the same height....

Tamago
07-20-2009, 07:40 PM
Joel you're evil.

255/40/13 and 225/45/13 are the same height....

uncanny, that!

scape
07-20-2009, 10:53 PM
hey, whatever it takes to get you out of a speeding ticket eh? *cough cough*

:bellyroll:

blacksandiegovitz
07-21-2009, 01:21 AM
mojoyaris:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3588234194_2bb521f72c.jpg?v=0

^^ OMG if are those really 13's ??? they look like 15's . I'm sold on smaller wheels for my yaris :thumbsup: I just didn't think small wheels would look right with a bodykit but it looks killer in that pic Imo

Tamago
07-21-2009, 01:23 AM
i think those are 15's in the pic. but mojoyaris lists 13's in his garage.

blacksandiegovitz
07-21-2009, 01:25 AM
ok , I'm gonna try a set of the 13" lenso's Jeff running back in the day http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8039&highlight=13%27s
I think they would look killer on my ride in "takata green"

Penguin Garage
07-21-2009, 03:06 PM
must find 13x9s in acceptable offsets.

WeeYari
07-21-2009, 05:55 PM
^^ OMG if are those really 13's ??? they look like 15's . I'm sold on smaller wheels for my yaris :thumbsup: I just didn't think small wheels would look right with a bodykit but it looks killer in that pic Imo

This is mojo on his 13's. Lenso VPD 13x7.5

Gideon
07-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Now I want to go smaller on mine! My 14's are only 5.5 wide. :cry:

scape
07-21-2009, 08:28 PM
This is mojo on his 13's. Lenso VPD 13x7.5

haha, that back tire looks a bit silly. but i still like it ;p

blacksandiegovitz
07-21-2009, 08:29 PM
Now I want to go smaller on mine! My 14's are only 5.5 wide. :cry:

Yeah , thats the only thing keeping me from "down-sizing" my 18's kill acceleration and braking but handle really good . With 7.5" lenso's I could run wider tires than I am now. Imo the mojoyaris's car looks really good with the 13's and the c-one kit :thumbup:

Gideon
07-21-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm trying to find a good street/track tire in 13 for these rims, but so far the R888's are all I've seen, and I don't want to be replacing tires every 3,000 miles. :\

I wish I had some Miata friends to test fit some 15x8 6UL wheels instead. :laugh:

Tamago
07-22-2009, 07:10 AM
I'm trying to find a good street/track tire in 13 for these rims, but so far the R888's are all I've seen, and I don't want to be replacing tires every 3,000 miles. :\

I wish I had some Miata friends to test fit some 15x8 6UL wheels instead. :laugh:

so buy a set of race tires and put them on the 13's. use the 13's only on race day. sounds like a good compromise to me :iono:

Mouse
07-22-2009, 09:44 AM
How about these wheels..... http://www.v2competition.com/

Tamago
07-22-2009, 10:33 AM
i would never buy from someone with typos on their homepage..

but that's just me

Mouse
07-22-2009, 10:48 AM
They are doing a group buy over on www.clubroadster.net

A couple people over there have those wheels.

Here is the link for the group buy... http://www.clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=21126

Thirty-Nine
07-22-2009, 07:16 PM
I know a couple of people ran 13" Lenso VPDs in the past.

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 02:11 AM
still searching.

PETERPOOP
07-24-2009, 02:35 AM
13 x 10? i'd be in

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 10:07 AM
13 x 10? i'd be in

alright, I'll see what I can put together.

Mouse
07-24-2009, 10:35 AM
diamond racing or some panasports are probably you're best bet

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 10:38 AM
diamond are too heavy.

Panasport is an option.

Tamago
07-24-2009, 10:41 AM
diamond are too heavy.

Panasport is an option.

what about BBS?

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 11:42 AM
there aren't alot of BBS in 13's that are 4 bolt, but i'm going to look into it.

Once i get the measurements for the yaris brakes i'll be able to send out the info to the wheel companies and see who can meet the needs.

there are a few other custom wheel companies that make smaller wheels.

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 11:44 AM
http://www.kodiakracingwheels.com/images/13inchfx.jpg

purdy.

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 11:48 AM
ahh kodiak!

Tamago
07-24-2009, 11:57 AM
one-size-fits-all Keizers

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w125/derelict12345/sciroccoautox029.jpg

kngrsll
07-24-2009, 02:54 PM
i dont know why everyone has not bought the wheels i got for my car. $400, 13 lb wheels. they look AWESOME in person

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 02:57 PM
i dont know why everyone has not bought the wheels i got for my car. $400, 13 lb wheels. they look AWESOME in person

15x7's?

We've already got 15x7s, you got us beat on price though. :bellyroll: :pwnd:

13x9s with some 255s would be perfect!

i guess i could pinch the 255 on an 13x8.5....it is a hoosier.

the 13x8.5 comes in gobs of offsets.

Mouse
07-24-2009, 03:25 PM
how about some SSR's
http://www.ssr-wheels.com/wheels/mk3.asp
http://www.ssr-wheels.com/wheels/mk2.asp
http://www.ssr-wheels.com/wheels/mk1.asp

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 04:44 PM
they were ruled out awhile ago due to the too low offsets and minimal brake caliper clearance.

Tamago
07-24-2009, 04:52 PM
i guess i could pinch the 255 on an 13x8.5....it is a hoosier.

the 13x8.5 comes in gobs of offsets.

exactly..

i pinched a 225 on a 7" and it worked fine :)

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 05:34 PM
http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn455/UtahYork/New%20Hoosiers/Hoosier5.jpg

Tires I want to run..... :wink:

Tamago
07-24-2009, 05:41 PM
kodiaks?

Penguin Garage
07-24-2009, 06:00 PM
kodiaks?

I closed the thread with the wheels, i wanna say they were the ones you mentioned before. Kaizers 13x9 5" backspacing with a 1/4" spacer up front.

I'm leaning towards doing a 13x8.5 all around with a 15mm offset and going 255 front and 225 rear.

the 255 is pretty square on the 8.5" b/c of the bead.

then again, i could get 13x9 up front and 13x8.5 rear.

guess we'll just have to wait and see.

aeipee13
07-24-2009, 06:24 PM
I've always thought about doing the "VW thing" on my yaris.

one-size-fits-all Keizers

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w125/derelict12345/sciroccoautox029.jpg

Tamago
07-24-2009, 07:06 PM
I closed the thread with the wheels, i wanna say they were the ones you mentioned before. Kaizers 13x9 5" backspacing with a 1/4" spacer up front.

I'm leaning towards doing a 13x8.5 all around with a 15mm offset and going 255 front and 225 rear.

the 255 is pretty square on the 8.5" b/c of the bead.

then again, i could get 13x9 up front and 13x8.5 rear.

guess we'll just have to wait and see.

considering the overall weight vs grip of a 255 up front and 225 rear (hoosier) honestly i don't see the need for an overkill wide wheel, especially if it affects your turning circle and destroys your scrub radius.

Tamago
07-24-2009, 07:07 PM
I've always thought about doing the "VW thing" on my yaris.

that would only be "the vw thing" if the guy had a 185 stretched on there.

THAT is a RACE CAR. not typical "VW" (and in FSP.. i bet he mops up!)

Keith Tinari
07-24-2009, 10:48 PM
i dont know why everyone has not bought the wheels i got for my car. $400, 13 lb wheels. they look AWESOME in person


Pro race 1.2s are awesome wheels, ive been trying to get a set for this car. i had a set on my wrx.

Malaya1221
07-25-2009, 04:09 AM
http://www.tunershop.com/Wheels/13_inches/
26413

26414

26415

Tamago
07-25-2009, 09:01 AM
Pro race 1.2s are awesome wheels, ive been trying to get a set for this car. i had a set on my wrx.

www.goodwinracing.com brian's a good guy.

Keith Tinari
07-25-2009, 06:39 PM
Thank you sooooo much. Once I get these Advans sold I will hop on these in a minute. These were by far my most favorite wheel I have ever owned. Are these brand new by the way? If they are that is a sick deal.

Tamago
07-26-2009, 01:07 AM
Thank you sooooo much. Once I get these Advans sold I will hop on these in a minute. These were by far my most favorite wheel I have ever owned. Are these brand new by the way? If they are that is a sick deal.

:confused: what wheel are you talking about?

kngrsll
07-26-2009, 01:49 AM
Thank you sooooo much. Once I get these Advans sold I will hop on these in a minute. These were by far my most favorite wheel I have ever owned. Are these brand new by the way? If they are that is a sick deal.

yeah, 99 brand new!

hes talking about the team dynamics

Keith Tinari
07-26-2009, 09:02 AM
yeah, 99 brand new!

hes talking about the team dynamics

i just sold my Advans last night for them. I cannot say enough about how much I loved those wheels.

Kngrsll, they look dark in your pics but on the website they look like the color I had and it was a bright silver. Like this, these were my old ones;

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/ScoobyKeith205/TDTrevose003.jpg

Tamago
07-26-2009, 09:18 AM
they're available in more than one color lol

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-0300.html

Keith Tinari
07-26-2009, 12:08 PM
haha thanks again, Im a navigational-n00b sometimes.

kngrsll
07-26-2009, 12:42 PM
thought about silver and bronze, but im happy i went with anthracite.

kngrsll
07-26-2009, 12:47 PM
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/21-1001A.html

the wheel i got

kngrsll
07-26-2009, 12:47 PM
id really like another set, ill probably get some next year for track rubber

Penguin Garage
07-27-2009, 12:24 PM
considering the overall weight vs grip of a 255 up front and 225 rear (hoosier) honestly i don't see the need for an overkill wide wheel, especially if it affects your turning circle and destroys your scrub radius.

I hear ya.

13x8.5 is probably the best bet.

and honestly if shit hits the fan and the 255s are too wide the 225 wont be overly stretched on an 8.5" wheel.

225 R-Comps or 255 R-Comps would be awesome no doubt.

Tamago
07-28-2009, 07:55 AM
i don't see you being able to out-power even a 225 unless you boosted and didn't install an LSD..

Penguin Garage
07-29-2009, 12:29 PM
i don't see you being able to out-power even a 225 unless you boosted and didn't install an LSD..

good point, could just say **** it and run a 225 all around initially.

then do LSD and step up to the 255 if it fits.

lilredrocket
07-29-2009, 12:44 PM
Have you decided on a wheel type yet?

Penguin Garage
07-29-2009, 12:48 PM
Have you decided on a wheel type yet?

it really comes down to how much I want to spend and the measurements I get when we do the corner weighting.

I'll be sending the measurements to Compomotive, Panasport, Kodiak and Diamond wheels.

that way we'll know which versions of their wheels will work. :)

hopefully getting the car's corner weight, fender well and rear bumper and fender mods (so we can go lower), and a fresh alignment done in the next few weeks.

:)

lilredrocket
07-29-2009, 12:56 PM
Ok thank you for the Info!!! PG FTW!