WHAT HAVE we gotten ourselves into?

[Tamago]

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[Darb]

So... buffoon to bookworm, works for me.

[Tamago]

bookworm lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/us/politics/25gates.html?em

more like foot-in-mouth'er. obama needs to learn when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut. some subjects need no commentary from our nation's leader. he should spend more time answering questions about things that REALLY MATTER (like his health care plan)

[SilverBack]

So are we watching a softball game, or Bad New Bears?

[Morgan]

bookworm lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/us/politics/25gates.html?em

more like foot-in-mouth'er. obama needs to learn when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut. some subjects need no commentary from our nation's leader. he should spend more time answering questions about things that REALLY MATTER (like his health care plan)

keeping our thoughts to our self, I see :wink:

[Tamago]

keeping our thoughts to our self, I see :wink:

you know me!

[Morgan]

you know me!

haha! well people have been known to change...

[roxy1]

bookworm lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/us/politics/25gates.html?em

more like foot-in-mouth'er. obama needs to learn when to speak and when to keep his mouth shut. some subjects need no commentary from our nation's leader. he should spend more time answering questions about things that REALLY MATTER (like his health care plan)

"i dont have all the facts....but the police acted stupidly"...way to move this country beyond race by taking sides in this, BO.:clap:

[chriswb]

He was right. The idea that the police would arrest Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his own home for committing no crime is downright depressing. The police officer that made the judgement call did act stupidly. Obama should have phrased it in a way that was more tactful.

[roxy1]

He was right. The idea that the police would arrest Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his own home for committing no crime is downright depressing. The police officer that made the judgement call did act stupidly. Obama should have phrased it in a way that was more tactful.

the arrest did not occur inside the home because Gates decided to take his beligerence outside as the cops were leaving and he wouldnt shut up and quit calling the cops racist, but not knowing the laws in MA, i still doubt any crime was committed. poor judgement would be the strongest thing BO should have said.

calling the arresting officer racist without knowing him was just as offensice to me. officer Crowley is the guy who administered cpr to try to save Reggie Lewis when he collapsed on a basketball court in 1993. by all accounts from everyone who knew him, he was bothered for a long time that he was unable to save him. i have a hard time thinking a racist would really give a crap. did he use poor judgement in the Gates case. it is quite possible, but i wasnt there.

[SailDesign]

WHAT HAVE we gotten ourselves into?
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Yet another sports fan trying to equate real life abilities to sports ability... :laugh:

[Tamago]

Yet another sports fan trying to equate real life abilities to sports ability... :laugh:

i fucking hate sports..

[Bob Dog]

When did everybody lose there sense of humour around here. I voted for Obama and would vote for him again and I think its pretty funny. I would, however, be very curious to see comparison pictures of their jump shots...

[gokartride]

not knowing the laws in MA, i still doubt any crime was committed. poor judgement would be the strongest thing BO should have said.True...that this situation excalated as it did and resulted in an arrest does seem to indicate something was strangely amiss. Maybe both parties "acted stupidly"....just as we are probably doing my trying to talk politics here on the mighty internet.

[Altitude]

I'd much rather have a President that can read, write, comprehend and articulate as opposed to being athletic. You know, like being able to properly spell ASSESSMENT.

[cali yaris]

I would, however, be very curious to see comparison pictures of their jump shots...

ha, good one!

1. the creator could at LEAST have spelled "assessment" correctly -- gee, I wonder which president could do that?
2. Bush's opening pitches didn't reach the plate with alarming regularity -- maybe we could compare that to his policies.

laughing at the whole thing -- good one and funny too.

[yaris-me]

You're right, Obama would make a lousy pitcher.:laugh:

[GeneW]

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I'd like to point out that both of these man are Harvard Graduates.

Believe it or not, Bush has a Harvard MBA, which is not given away like Cracker Jack Prizes. An MBA from Harvard and Wharton Business School (U. Penn) are considered the two top MBAs in the US.

You have to earn a Harvard MBA, and you earn it by doing lots and lots of tough projects in classwork. If anyone has proof that Bush bought his degree I'd like to hear it, and if it is possible to buy a Harvard Degree what does that tell you about the value of a Harvard Degree?

Most of the leadership at GM and most other major US firms contain Harvard MBAs. During the 1960s the "Whiz Kids" of the Kennedy Administration were Harvard Business school Alumni. Their leader, Robert McNamara, was a PhD who taught at the Harvard Business School. Nobody questioned their brains then or now, even though they made a mess of the Viet Nam War.

Bush was a failed business owner. A Harvard degree apparently isn't a guarantee of success.

A Havard JD, which Obama earned, is one of the top legal degrees in the US. Obama edited the Havard Law Journal, which is normally done by upper class Law Students at Harvard. I am not sure if the assignment of Editor is done by class standing or an election. I do know if Obama was top of his class we'd have heard it repeatedly. I have not heard so.

Obama was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review. He did some modest amounts of casework with his Harvard JD before going into politics. Harry Truman went into politics with a high school degree, which proves that you don't need a Harvard JD to do well in politics. Doesn't even help that much.

A Harvard degree apparently isn't a guarantee of of success, if Obama didn't use it to rise to the top ranks of the legal profession that he worked so hard to educate himself. He's not a lawyer, he's a politician.

To me all this photo montage shows is that Bush is more experienced at fast ball pitching, while Obama is probably less experienced. I got this suspicion that Obama would do a better job on a Basketball Court than Bush.

Both men profited politically from the "Housing Boom". Neither one is being held accountable for the resulting crash. Both screwed up handling it, with "stimulus packages" which were Pinatas for the monied classes. Neither one read the histories of the Great Depression, which clearly showed the "stimulus packages" do NOT do a damn thing for economic activity.

Pity that the American people could do better than either of these two.

Gene

[GeneW]

"i dont have all the facts....but the police acted stupidly"...way to move this country beyond race by taking sides in this, BO.:clap:

Mr. Obama has the right to speak his mind. Dr. Gates is one of his personal friends. It's pretty damn outrageous to be arrested for breaking into one's own personal home.

That all being said, the Police Officer's black partner claimed the Dr. Gates "behaved oddly" and refused to produce ID. In Massachusetts and certainly in many urban locales refusing to produce ID will get your arrested. Cambridge Mass is not Mayberry RFD.

I think Mr. Obama should have been more patient, offered his legal and personal support to his friend informally, and did not "take sides".

I understand how successful black folks can be "touchy". I have a black coworker who flies off the handle any time he suspects "Disrespect". He does know what he's doing and I enjoy working with him except when he snaps. I wish he'd knock off the overcompensation but I do not know how many times in his life he's been patronized, talked down to, referred to behind his back as a "token" and so on.

If Mr. Obama was speaking for this point of view I can sympathize with him, though he needs to exercise some discipline.

Gene

[cali yaris]

Gene,

We've all experienced Bush's inability to form intelligent and/or complete sentences. I simply do not see how that man got an MBA from Harvard without an extraordinary amount of outside help or influence (either monetary, or something like tutoring/coaching/editing/etc).

To make the case, as you seem to want to make, that he earned it fairly through hard work is I think, problematic at best.

This point addresses the MBA only, not leadership, political prowess, good or bad job while in office, etc.

[JBougie]

I think they are both an insult to politics.

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now at the amazing failure we have created. We can all chalk that up to the lazy, entitlement society we have become. It's disgusting.

[cali yaris]

^ and that the population isn't proactive to create something better.

Our founding fathers would be mad at US, not the politicians.

I'll bet VERY few on here have done ANYTHING but complain about "how bad it is". I'm embarrassed to admit that includes me. I write letters and the occasional check -- LAME.

[SailDesign]

I think they are both an insult to politics.

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now at the amazing failure we have created. We can all chalk that up to the lazy, entitlement society we have become. It's disgusting.

I think we can chalk it up to the fact that beng good at getting elected does not translate into being a good leader, any more than having a good pitching style does.
I've said it before, and I know I'll say it again, but anyone who WANTS to be President is automatically the wrong man for the job....

[Malaya1221]

....I'm not a hooligan
I rock the party and
Clear all the madness, I'm not a racist
Preach to teach to all
'Cause some they never had this
Number one, not born to run
About the gun
I wasn't licensed to have one
The minute they see me, fear me
I'm the epitome-a public enemy
Used, abused, without clues
I refused to blow a fuse
They even had it on the news
Don't believe the hype

[GeneW]

Gene,

We've all experienced Bush's inability to form intelligent and/or complete sentences. I simply do not see how that man got an MBA from Harvard without an extraordinary amount of outside help or influence (either monetary, or something like tutoring/coaching/editing/etc).

To make the case, as you seem to want to make, that he earned it fairly through hard work is I think, problematic at best.

This point addresses the MBA only, not leadership, political prowess, good or bad job while in office, etc.

I talk a lot like Bush, and a lot like this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZtL7sSZqhs

Being articulate does not make you intelligent nor vice versa. One of the most Intelligent people I ever met, who worked on the guidance systems for the MX Missile, was a from a steel town in northern PA and sounded almost retarded. Earned a MS in Applied Math in a "3 plus 2" program at CMU.

I've seen Bush in "intimate" interviews. He does not bang up words too often when he's talking "one on one". I would not be remotely surprised if he does that on purpose, to appeal to many folks who also bang up words, by making his public appearnces into burlesques.

I don't stick up for Bush as much as I refute the idea that the "Progressives" have some sort of "alternative". I think both camps are pretty reprehensible people when they get total control of things.

Gene

[SailDesign]

Here's a nice look at 100 years of Presidential first pitches - from the English press - to compare pitching style (or lack thereof...)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5834508/From-Taft-to-Obama-US-Presidents-throw-the-ceremonial-first-pitch-at-a-major-league-baseball-game.html

[gokartride]

Bush did own a baseball team. :wink:

[Tamago]

Bush did own a baseball team. :wink:

and lots of people own corvettes.. doesn't mean they can drive them ;)

[yaris-me]

OK, Presidents make lousy pitchers.:frown:

[JBougie]

^ and that the population isn't proactive to create something better.

Our founding fathers would be mad at US, not the politicians.

I'll bet VERY few on here have done ANYTHING but complain about "how bad it is". I'm embarrassed to admit that includes me. I write letters and the occasional check -- LAME.

I, proudly, DO try to make it better. I am EXTREMELY active with my party - but there are too many people who aren't. That's becuase they are lazy and would rather have the government take care of them 110%.

[RHDVIPbB]

and lots of people own corvettes.. doesn't mean they can drive them ;)

So true in too many ways. I hate them around my area of town. They always go under the speed limit.

[JBougie]

So true in too many ways. I hate them around my area of town. They always go under the speed limit.

How is that even possible?! haha I am pretty sure the state of Minnesota would pull my license from my purse themselves if I had one, I'm pretty sure I would get at least 1 speeding ticket a week :laugh: