TACH-cluster replacement-resetting ODO?

[Lewis]

Just bought a replacement instrument cluster from an auto recycler (with the tach, mph, abs light - 125 dollars) for my 3door base model whose cluster lacks a tach (which I consider a necesscity for any car with manual transmission).

I am capable of replacing the cluster myself. Where I'm feeling concern is based on my reading of a multiplicity of posts on this topic which indicate - that the cluster will hold on to what ever mileage it has registered and not "pick up" the ODO mileage from the ECU.

Since my car only has 5K miles on the clock, and the replacement cluster is likely to have many more miles than that-

Is it possible for the dealer to reset the cluster ODO to match the ECU miles via their computer system access?

Any techs out there with THE KNOWLEDGE.

Of cause my dealer claims this can't be done- just like they claimed they couldn't turn off the seat belt chime- right before they turned it off.

Many guys here have posted that you've done this switch- any one been successful in getting your cluster ODO to reset?

Thanks in advance.

Lewis:iono:

[90tsi]

i know mike has done it to his 09. i think he said the dealer had to restore the memory from the ecu to the gauge cluster or something to that effect.

[Lewis]

yes successful swaps are legion here. but as far i know no one has figured out how to get the cluster to "pick up" the ecu ODO reading.

any help with that would be greatly appreciated on this end!

[CTScott]

The dealer can definitely do it with the Techstream tool. It says so in the service manual.

Someone here who experimented with swapping one had it pick up the correct mileage from the ECM, others have not. The difference between it having done so or not appeared to be whether the person disconnected the battery when doing the swap. The person who said that it picked it up, disconnected the battery, the others did not.

[Lewis]

looks like i'll be disconnecting the battery when i do the switch- with my fingers and toes crossed!

thanks for the tip CT- i love this website!

GREAT WAY TO SHARE EXPERIENCE

[Shroomster]

I've done numerous ipc swaps at work (customer abuse and also stress cracks/weak plastic fascias) on GM's, Toyotas, nissans, fords, they all were jsut plug n play, never an issue with the new ipc not showing the correct mileage. however these were all identical parts (replace same for same), but I dunno what sets apart a $400 ford or Gm cluster against a $400 toyota cluster when it comes to holding info.....

[CTScott]

As a side note, a while back nickhjort sent me some pics from when we were trying to figure out if we could get the 07-08 clusters to drive cruise control lights.

Looking back though the pics recently I realized that the cluster has a "core" module with the microcontroller on it, which is plugged into a "carrier" board (i.e. the big circuit board with the lights and speedo). The mileage on the cluster end is stored in flash memory within this microcontroller. If the cold boot via battery disconnect doesn't work, It may be possible to move the core over from the old to new cluster. The question is if the microcontroller is programmed generically and it drives whatever is available on the carrier it is plugged into, or if it is programmed specifically for the carrier.

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[Lewis]

why would this matter if by disconnecting the battery you pick up what you need from the ECU?

Just wondering.

[CTScott]

why would this matter if by disconnecting the battery you pick up what you need from the ECU?

Just wondering.

If disconnecting the battery really works then it is a moot point.

[cali yaris]

that the cluster will hold on to what ever mileage it has registered and not "pick up" the ODO mileage from the ECU.

That is correct. I don't even have an ECU in the car any more (standalone management for my project) - the gauge cluster holds the mileage, and the speedometer and fuel gauge still work.

[CTScott]

That is correct. I don't even have an ECU in the car any more (standalone management for my project) - the gauge cluster holds the mileage, and the speedometer and fuel gauge still work.

The cluster can operate independently of the ECM (or in your case in lack of the ECM). The ECM also stores the 3 mileage values in its FLASH ROM. When the cluster is swapped the two will disagree. The question is what happens at that point - Does the ECM simply update its values from the new cluster, does it stop updating them until something is done to rectify the mismatch, or can it force the cluster to take its values?

The people who swapped the clusters hot, saw the clusters' mileage remain. The one person who was told to disconnect the battery by the junk yard dudes saw the cluster mileage change to his correct mileage on power-up.

The service manual makes no reference to this or to the procedure for updating the cluster's mileage. It does mention using the Techstream tool to update the ECM's mileage after it is replaced, but nothing about the cluster.

At this point, I'd like to see a second person disconnect the battery before performing the swap to see what the result is.

[Lewis]

That will be me CT-

As soon as it arrives in the mail from the online auto recycler (sounds SO much better than junkyard!).

I'll share with the group as soon as I try it.

Also I have a manual trans car (duh- why I want the tach in the first place)- but the cluster I found was from an auto trans car (liked the price- only 125 all in). I was told it simply will not light in the PDRL quad. I'll confirm that one way or the other too and of cause how well all the features (ABS light etc.) work. Since I have a base 3 door I will not be able to report on the cruise control light.

I'm pretty optimistic based on others' experience here but still holding my breath that I'm not wasting my time. I, being the cautous person I am did get the yard to agree on a return ahead of time in writing if it doesn't work.

Lewis

[MGargano]

The people who swapped the clusters hot, saw the clusters' mileage remain. The one person who was told to disconnect the battery by the junk yard dudes saw the cluster mileage change to his correct mileage on power-up.

At this point, I'd like to see a second person disconnect the battery before performing the swap to see what the result is.

Think there's a way to back-track this? I didn't think to disconnect the battery when I swapped my '09 cluster for the '09 "S" cluster and now I'm kicking myself.

[CTScott]

Think there's a way to back-track this? I didn't think to disconnect the battery when I swapped my '09 cluster for the '09 "S" cluster and now I'm kicking myself.

Well you've definitely disconnected the battery since the swap with all of the seat troubleshooting, so it definitely looks like after the fact doesn't work for that theory.

At this point, other than the Techstream tool method, the only DIY method that might work is the core swap that I mentioned above. Before anyone actually tests that theory snap a pair of pics of the core (front and back) like the ones below, so I can look for any differences that may cause bad things to happen.

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[CTScott]

MGargano - Here's another idea: Put your old cluster back in (without disconnecting the battery). Drive around for a little while with it in. Then, disconnect the battery, re-install the new one, cross your finger, and power it back up.

[mikenacarato]

dang scott..didnt think to do that! i still havent had my mileage updated. and i tried disconnecting the battery for a few mins and it didnt work.

[MGargano]

MGargano - Here's another idea: Put your old cluster back in (without disconnecting the battery). Drive around for a little while with it in. Then, disconnect the battery, re-install the new one, cross your finger, and power it back up.

I think I'll give this method a shot first. I don't think I need anymore electrical problems at the moment...one thing at a time :laugh:

[MGargano]

Then again, I am still waiting for those 3 ohm resistors...

[CTScott]

Then again, I am still waiting for those 3 ohm resistors...

There you go. Abusing your car's electrical systems becomes addictive.

[MGargano]

There you go. Abusing your car's electrical systems becomes addictive.

Lol so I'm seeing. I put the OEM cluster back in tonight. How long do you figure I should leave it in?

PS- resistors shipped today.

[auxmike]

This is a real cool thread!:thumbup:
I have the scanguage as a tach in my car, but I'd love a real tach too...

[CTScott]

Lol so I'm seeing. I put the OEM cluster back in tonight. How long do you figure I should leave it in?

PS- resistors shipped today.

If this has any chance of working, I'd say drive around tomorrow and then put the new one back in tomorrow night (with the battery disconnected).

[ryota]

i'm not sure if this would work in any way or not. but my old car if you disconnected the - part of the battery, then turned the key like you were going to turn the car on, and left it in that position for a few minutes it would "reset" the ECU. this is how i got my check engine light to go off before an inspection a few times. maybe resetting it will cause it to recognize the new cluster as what is stored in the ECU's memory from the old cluster. just a shot in the dark, but you never know.

[Lewis]

I'd say go for it Mike!

Nothing to fear but fear itself. As we used to joke when I was in the Army- "What could possibly go wrong?"

:-)

[Lewis]

correction - it will NOT be me- at least for awhile

junkyard sent cluster that did not have a tach- i guess they figure some folks won't go to the trouble of a return

so the hunt continues- anyone with a lead on a hatch cluster with a tach and abs light- please let me know

what a bummer!

[MGargano]

MGargano - Here's another idea: Put your old cluster back in (without disconnecting the battery). Drive around for a little while with it in. Then, disconnect the battery, re-install the new one, cross your finger, and power it back up.

Unfortunately, this did not work. The mileage in the new cluster remained the same after disconnecting the battery :frown:

[Sodium Duck]

There are so many different threads on this. Can we just combine them all and sticky this since it seems to be such a hot topic?

Also, what kind of cluster would I have to search for to get the one that walterokus used? I like how it's the base model colors and not the orange S model colors.

[Lewis]

well Mike- at least according to CT you have the option of getting the dealer to correct it-

Mike I've been losing my mind trying to find the part- how were you so lucky?

[CTScott]

Unfortunately, this did not work. The mileage in the new cluster remained the same after disconnecting the battery :frown:

Out of curiosity, when you put your old one back in last night, did it read what it read before the great swap?


Lewis, how about trying the battery disconnected swap (in the name of science) before you return the wrong one?


By the way, last night I was doing some research on the parts that are going to be in the wrecked Yaris that I am picking up on Thursday. It is an 08, built in 08/2007. In the EPC I noticed that there was a bulletin (dated August 2, 2007) attached to the speedometer info. This is the first time that I've run into an attached bulletin when looking up parts. In the bulletin it says:

Eligible Parts
Programmed Digital Odometer replacement part numbers for Toyota and Scion vehicles are listed on the last two pages of this bulletin. Odometers should be ordered to be programmed to read the vehicle’s actual indicated mileage at the time of odometer replacement and must be ordered directly from the listed vendor (Denso or Yazaki)

In the Yaris section at the end it references the following part numbers:
83800-52B70
83800-52C70
83800-52E70
83800-52E80
83800-52E90
83800-52F00
83800-52F10
83800-52L00

[MGargano]

well Mike- at least according to CT you have the option of getting the dealer to correct it-

Mike I've been losing my find trying to find the part- how were you so lucky?

I just went to Google and typed in 'junkyards' and filled out forms on a few of the pages that popped up. Most of the places got back to me within 24 hours and quite a few of them had the part in stock. Just be prepared to spend at least $200. Mine was $225 with 1,100 miles on it from yard4.com

[MGargano]

Out of curiosity, when you put your old one back in last night, did it read what it read before the great swap?

Yes

[MGargano]

well Mike- at least according to CT you have the option of getting the dealer to correct it-

Mike I've been losing my find trying to find the part- how were you so lucky?

Try Thomas at FindAPartNow @ 717-214-4566. When I called at the end of July, he had one available for $283 + $15 shipping. Most places will try to direct you to someone else if they don't have the part themselves. That's how I got the number for yard4.com and ended up getting a near-new cluster for so cheap.

[mikenacarato]

i typed the right part number in the other thread btw. ill try and find it

[mikenacarato]

TOY83800-52N71

[Lewis]

Just kidding but Mike with 1,100 miles on it why change it?

:-)

Too late to try the experiment CT- I've already returned it.

:-(

Thanks for the tips Mike- the quest continues- I thought that something was wrong with the price of $125 btw as the going rate for what we need seems to be higher.

Been looking at eBay- to no avail - just speedos and sedan clusters with tachs the last few weeks.

[yarstar]

Great thread here guys. Thanks for all the hard work on this. I'll be watching anxiously, and trying to find a good deal on a cluster too.

[goku87]

I'm not a big fan of patience. So instead of waiting for someone to figure this out, I decided to call the dealership and see what they had to say.

There is no way to transfer the milage between gauge clusters. They have to have both clusters, verify the old milage, load it into the new cluster, and then notarize it to make it legit.

:thumbup:

And as for the random swap that worked, they guy said the new cluster might have had a similar milage to the one that was removed.

:thumbsup:

Cool Beans.

[DevilGirl]

There is no way to transfer the milage between gauge clusters. They have to have both clusters, verify the old milage, load it into the new cluster, and then notarize it to make it legit.

Did they quote a price on it? I'm interested in having an OEM looking cluster with a tach. (I still say it should have been there with the MT!)

[IllusionX]

I'm not a big fan of patience. So instead of waiting for someone to figure this out, I decided to call the dealership and see what they had to say.

There is no way to transfer the milage between gauge clusters. They have to have both clusters, verify the old milage, load it into the new cluster, and then notarize it to make it legit.

:thumbup:

And as for the random swap that worked, they guy said the new cluster might have had a similar milage to the one that was removed.

:thumbsup:

Cool Beans.

usually, dealers should not even be allowed to temper with the cluster. I've seen cars that have had the cluster swapped by the dealer... (it was a honda actually) and they simply put a sticker in the engine bay confirming the car's mileage before the ODO was brought back to 0.

[goku87]

Did they quote a price on it? I'm interested in having an OEM looking cluster with a tach. (I still say it should have been there with the MT!)

I didn't think to ask until right when I hung up. I'd call them back but I had to go through like three different people to talk to the person I needed to talk to lol.

That and I'm still kinda pissed off about the shoddy job they did on my car and tried to charge me out the @$$ for it.

[CTScott]

I'm not a big fan of patience. So instead of waiting for someone to figure this out, I decided to call the dealership and see what they had to say.

There is no way to transfer the milage between gauge clusters. They have to have both clusters, verify the old milage, load it into the new cluster, and then notarize it to make it legit.

:thumbup:

And as for the random swap that worked, they guy said the new cluster might have had a similar milage to the one that was removed.

:thumbsup:

Cool Beans.


Very good. I was beginning to think that maybe the successful mileage update was urban legend...

[Lewis]

yes CT- it's hard sometimes to say I failed at what I was trying to accomplish on these forums.

[CTScott]

yes CT- it's hard sometimes to say I failed at what I was trying to accomplish on these forums.

I'm not ready to give up yet. This is just more data. Sometimes you have to debunk all of the myths before you can work towards a real solution. The dealer saying that they can do it is good news. After running into that bulletin I started thinking that this may be a factory only fix.

[Lewis]

well first CT I need to find a cluster- been searching the net all day to no avail.

[CTScott]

well first CT I need to find a cluster- been searching the net all day to no avail.

I bet there's not too many floating around. If you think about how few Ss there are vs. regulars, there can't be too many in junk yards.

[Lewis]

scare as hens teeth from what i've seen- many yards THINK they have it until they double check

odd thing is there are scads of the ones with just speedos

lots of youngsters totalling their cars from the photos the yards run

.....and it'll be a cold day in hell when i'll pay 420 for a new cluster

to be precise it'd be a cold evening(s) in the guest room if my wife discovered i paid 420 for the cluster!

[MGargano]

Did they quote a price on it? I'm interested in having an OEM looking cluster with a tach. (I still say it should have been there with the MT!)

When I called my local dealer about a month ago looking for this, they said either $520 or $570

[mikenacarato]

man you guys are getting ripped off! But then again im so used to ordering stuff through my company and our account with our local dealer really helps a lot. either way they told me they could reprogram the mileage for a programming fee and thats all. i just dont have the spare cash for a programming fee just yet. but ive clocked 2500 miles on this new cluster with no issues.

[goku87]

Basically, I misunderstood when the dealership said "they could reprogram it." What they should have said was "we send it off to be reprogrammed."

The good news is that at least I got more info...

Scott, what info have you gotten so far about the factory reprogramming the cluster? Did you say something about they just tell it to be ready to pull the milage from whatever it's hooked up to next time it is turned on?

[Shroomster]

I wonder why programming can't be accomplished in Techstream?

[CTScott]

Goku87, so far I don't have any solid info. I am looking into purchasing a Chinese clone of the techstream VIM for $1500. I believe, based on Mike's dealer's response, that it can be done using techstream.

[goku87]

jebus that is a lot of $$$

[CTScott]

It is indeed, but it is a whole lot less than $7,500 for the real Toyota one. My interest in it is to "sniff" its communication when doing various things to the ECM or other ECU's. This would allow me to build inexpensive modules to allow others to do those same tasks. It also has the ability to flash the ECM. Sniffing that process is the key to cracking the ECM.

[pennyracer]

does anyone have a 08 yaris lb automatic trans ecu with 35000 miles or less on the car when it was pulled im looking for one to buy ?

[jdms]

As a side note, a while back nickhjort sent me some pics from when we were trying to figure out if we could get the 07-08 clusters to drive cruise control lights.

Looking back though the pics recently I realized that the cluster has a "core" module with the microcontroller on it, which is plugged into a "carrier" board (i.e. the big circuit board with the lights and speedo). The mileage on the cluster end is stored in flash memory within this microcontroller. If the cold boot via battery disconnect doesn't work, It may be possible to move the core over from the old to new cluster. The question is if the microcontroller is programmed generically and it drives whatever is available on the carrier it is plugged into, or if it is programmed specifically for the carrier.

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Has anyone tried this yet? I just read through it all and didn't see anyone saying this didn't work.

[goku87]

ive been scouring junk yards here, back home, and on the internet-a-plenty.

i'm almost tempted to say screw it and get the one from the stealership.

its only $460.00ish....

only....... :frown:

[CTScott]

Has anyone tried this yet? I just read through it all and didn't see anyone saying this didn't work.

Someone from Puerto Rico did, and it did not work for him - The new cluster had a blank display for mileage with the old cluster's core. It may be that you can only swap out ones from the same vintage, or it may be that it just doesn't work.

[Sodium Duck]

It's also possible they didn't install it correctly, or one of the 50 or so pins were bent, etc. that's a pretty fragile piece. I think that idea makes a lot of sense though.

[DamianShadowPaw]

I just want a clear answer... will a cluster with a Tach work in a Yaris that did not come with a Tach >.> millage doesn't really concern me.

[ezhacker1]

yes it will, at a meet last week, we had a 09 S automatic cluster swapped into a pre 09 no tach (manual), worked, we dont know about ODO tho.

[goku87]

looking back on this i guess i'm glad i never got the new cluster lol.

[ricepower]

I just bought a cluster from ebay and waiting for arrival. For me, I am after with the tach.

Is the odometer reading stays with the ecm or it follows the cluster ecu?:help:

[CTScott]

I just bought a cluster from ebay and waiting for arrival. For me, I am after with the tach.

Is the odometer reading stays with the ecm or it follows the cluster ecu?:help:

It stays with the cluster ECU. The ECM doesn't store odo data.

[ricepower]

It stays with the cluster ECU. The ECM doesn't store odo data.

Thanks CTScott:

83800-52F80 ----> 83800-52F30 ..fingers cross:thumbsup:

[CTScott]

83800-52F30 is Canada/Mexico 06-07 for non-ABS, so it will work on yours and will be in KM.

[ricepower]

83800-52F30 is Canada/Mexico 06-07 for non-ABS, so it will work on yours and will be in KM.

I think it has the ABS..this is the description i got from toyodiy.com

83800-52F30 NCP93..MTM..CND; WITH 15 INCH DISC WHEEL & CRUISE CONTROL & ABS(ANTI-LOCK BRK SYSTM)-WITH(WITHOUT BRAKE ASSIST)

[ricepower]

My new sedan instrument cluster 83800-52F30

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4923428546_da025566bc.jpg



My old instrument cluster 83800-52F80
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4922836013_f67975c5fd.jpg


Many thanks to ebay seller LKQ

[CB900F2]

du2efs... If you use a flash light on the cluster, can you see the outline of the "Cruise" control logo on the cluster??.. It should be near the top right side of the speedo..

My new sedan instrument cluster 83800-52F30

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4923428546_da025566bc.jpg



My old instrument cluster 83800-52F80
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4922836013_f67975c5fd.jpg


Many thanks to ebay seller LKQ

[ricepower]

the cluster p/n 83800-52F30 I got has no cruise control led or indicator. I have checked the PCB, no resistor and smt led. :(

[ricepower]

I noticed that the Illumination(dial and pointer) is not working after the swap. Everything else is working except the dial pointer illumination.

I have compared the cluster ecu board part by part and its same.Probably the programming is different as i tried to swap the ecu board with the tach and non-tach, the dial and ponter lights works but the tach and speedo is not working. :mad:

Last resort is to jumper the clock backlight to the pointer and dial.

[darkMINI]

Before you swapped the ECU was it just the Tach dial and pointer not illuminating, or both the Speedo and Tach dials/pointers?

[ricepower]

Before you swapped the ECU was it just the Tach dial and pointer not illuminating, or both the Speedo and Tach dials/pointers?

after the swap, the gauge backlight, pointers(tach+speedo) is not working..Rest of the functions is working.

Below my observation:

My wiring harness is not the same. The canadian cluster has the illumination control and GCC/EU model don't have. To fix this, You have to swap/jumper or rig the illumination pinout of the new cluster.

I put it back my original cluster as I am annoyed without the illumination/backlight. Everything works fine. From here, I noticed also that they have different programming cluster daughter board. Tried to swap their daughter boards also but the results is more bad(none of the pointers is working).

[darkMINI]

So, I've been searching all these Tach Cluster threads and still have not been able to verify if I can put a tach cluster in my '08 3dr HB MT US base model. If it is possible does anyone have an idea of which clusters will work without issue?

I was thinking of trying a cluster from an '08 US HB auto trans model.

We need to make a chart showing what will work with what.

[CTScott]

So, I've been searching all these Tach Cluster threads and still have not been able to verify if I can put a tach cluster in my '08 3dr HB MT US base model. If it is possible does anyone have an idea of which clusters will work without issue?

I was thinking of trying a cluster from an '08 US HB auto trans model.

We need to make a chart showing what will work with what.

For USDM ones, the key is getting one with ABS if your car has it and without if it doesn't. In some cases the opposite will still work, but you are always safe if you match for ABS.

[darkMINI]

Right on Scott, that narrows the search a bit.

Love your snowplow BTW

[CrankyOldMan]

Thread revival time!

I've been plowing though as many threads as I can, but I still can't find the part number for a USDM cluster w/tach and ABS. I've found some part numbers on villagetoyotaparts.com and toyoDIY, but the descriptions are either absent, or not helpful.

Here's what I've found so far at villagetoyotaparts.com for a 2010 USDM 3DR MT:

83800-52L30 - speedo only (2010 hatch, ebay listing)
83800-52L40 - ???
83800-52N61 - speedo only (2009 hatch, ebay listing)
83800-52N71 - w/tach and ABS
83800-52P01 - ???
83800-52X00 - ???

Could someone with a USDM hatch with tach pull their cluster and verify the part number?

*edit*

Ok, after more poking around at toyotapartszone.com, I found about a dozen part numbers for the 09 North American hatch. Sadly, they either say "Mexico spec" or "not available". The descriptions seem to be a bit better, but having a description for a part that doesn't exist anymore is pretty useless. =/

[CTScott]

Thread revival time!

I've been plowing though as many threads as I can, but I still can't find the part number for a USDM cluster w/tach and ABS. I've found some part numbers on villagetoyotaparts.com and toyoDIY, but the descriptions are either absent, or not helpful.

Here's what I've found so far at villagetoyotaparts.com for a 2010 USDM 3DR MT:

83800-52L30 - speedo only (2010 hatch, ebay listing)
83800-52L40 - ???
83800-52N61 - speedo only (2009 hatch, ebay listing)
83800-52N71 - ???
83800-52P01 - ???
83800-52X00 - ???

Could someone with a USDM hatch with tach pull their cluster and verify the part number?

*edit*

Ok, after more poking around at toyotapartszone.com, I found about a dozen part numbers for the 09 North American hatch. Sadly, they either say "Mexico spec" or "not available". The descriptions seem to be a bit better, but having a description for a part that doesn't exist anymore is pretty useless. =/


For an 09+ with ABS and the Tach: 83800-52N71

[BIGTAZ351]

I know this Thread is almost 4yrs old... Don't Shoot Me!
On the 09+ LB w/abs WITH TACH, does it matter?, or which Part # is correct for 5-Speed and which for AT?

[yariseggvvti]

I got 07 hatch none tach and I found one for $150 09 hatch with tach. Can anyone provide me some information here please. Can i just swap it over and plug and play or I need to change wht hardness. Thx!!!

[ezhacker1]

09 S Cluster needs to be matched with car with abs or the mph needle wont move.

S cluster doesnt matter Auto or Manual.

Harness is the same, its simple plug and play.

[yariseggvvti]

09 S Cluster needs to be matched with car with abs or the mph needle wont move.

S cluster doesnt matter Auto or Manual.

Harness is the same, its simple plug and play.

Thanks for reply. So all 09 cluster comes with abs. Can i get one with out abs and then both will be working fine. thx!

[CTScott]

With US ones ALL come WITH ABS. The speedometer issue is only when using a JDM cluster on a non ABS US car. If you use a U.S. ABS one on a non ABS car the ABS and brake lights will always be on. You can disable those lights to make it usable.

[yariseggvvti]

With US ones ALL come WITH ABS. The speedometer issue is only when using a JDM cluster on a non ABS US car. If you use a U.S. ABS one on a non ABS car the ABS and brake lights will always be on. You can disable those lights to make it usable.

Thank you very much! CTScott

[MJZ]

I read this whole thread, is there an end all answer for this?
I'm reading "discon the battery first and it'll work" then "that doesn't work" then "the dealer can do it" then "the dealer can't do it"

What's the actual answer here??
I'd sure love to have a tach, on the cluster on my 08 manual...

[CTScott]

I read this whole thread, is there an end all answer for this?
I'm reading "discon the battery first and it'll work" then "that doesn't work" then "the dealer can do it" then "the dealer can't do it"

What's the actual answer here??
I'd sure love to have a tach, on the cluster on my 08 manual...

The final and definite answer is it can only be done by someone with specialized equipment to reflash the EEPROM on the module. It can't be done by disconnecting the battery and it can't be done by the dealer. I have the equipment and offer the service, if you track one down.

[MJZ]

The final and definite answer is it can only be done by someone with specialized equipment to reflash the EEPROM on the module. It can't be done by disconnecting the battery and it can't be done by the dealer. I have the equipment and offer the service, if you track one down.

Good to know!

[scoobopdan]

CT, I'm thinking about doing the swap to the type S to get the tach. If I did this what would flashing the mileage include? I.e. do I need to send it to you with my old cluster or something and how much would you want?

[CTScott]

CT, I'm thinking about doing the swap to the type S to get the tach. If I did this what would flashing the mileage include? I.e. do I need to send it to you with my old cluster or something and how much would you want?

You would just have to send me the new one (and shoot me a pic of your current one with its current mileage). I charge $40 + return shipping to reprogram them.

[scoobopdan]

Good to know CT, I'm in the middle of moving so it may take a month or two but i'll definitely be PMing you in the future, thanks!

[LittleM@n]

Hello,

Could anyone help me with an instrument cluster pinout for a 2003 EU Yaris TS?
I have attached some pictures with the plugs.
There are 2 connectors (22 and 18 pins), and one 6 pins smaller connector that goes with the buttons.

Thank you!

[LittleM@n]

Forgot to mention: it's MkII (facelift) version (in the reg book, it's written 2004). But the parts are marked with 2003 :)

[LittleM@n]

Solved it. I'll post some walkthrough and pictures later.
Basically it's very similar to Funcargo pinout.