Need fog light switch and relay

[Jrilla]

I just bought my 09 Sedan and thought if I could install a set of fog lights I bought a few years ago I could avoid paying for the entire kit. I know this sounds really cheap, but they are nice lights and I am sure if they don't work to my satisfaction I will go ahead and buy the kit and the 09 trim plates.

The only thing I am missing is the relay and the switch. So far I have cut holes in the existing blank trim pieces and JB welded the lights to them. I have sufficient wiring that came with set, but I wanted to get a switch that would go into one of the empty spots next to the e-brake. I assume I would need a wire harness to snap into the switch also. Does anyone have a spare switch for sale with the connector with a short length of wires coming out of it?

Also, I need a relay to complete the installation. Does anyone have a spare for sale, or the specs on what I would need to buy. It looks like a simple SPDT relay, but I suppose I would need to make sure the relay I get is the right type of relay with the correct pinout and voltage.

If no one has these could someone post links to where the individual parts can be bought. All I have seen were the complete kit, and if I have to get them from Toyota, I would think I could get the entire kit for a little more money.

Thanks a lot for any help.

[MGargano]

I have the relay and in-cabin wiring left over from the fog light kit I bought and installed from Garm. All it's missing is the switch that mounts near the parking brake, which I've already sold.

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab279/MGargano1/HPIM7908.jpg

The switch would plug into that green connector

[CTScott]

Here's an ebay link to the relay for just over $10 with shipping (I bought my relay from this seller):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-RELAY-90987-02027-Heater-Main-Power-Fuel-Tail_W0QQitemZ350226418447QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item518b1f0b0f&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

For the switch, I used an illuminated rocker switch and mounted it next to the dimmer rheostat.

[Treyz]

^^^^

That relay is if you are to follow installing the lights via the system itslef and have it show up on the cluster.

(P.S. got mine for $7.90 [includes shipping] from ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-RELAY-90084-98031-powertrain-ecm-horn-fan-fog_W0QQitemZ180366993473QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item29feb5e841&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116)

[Jrilla]

I assume that the relay that CTScott and Treyz posted links for should both work even though they are different part numbers. It looks like the relay Treyz posted a link for is the right one based on the item description though. Thanks guys

Mgargano, thanks for posting, but I am looking for the relay that will plug into the fuseblock under the dash so I can use the indicator on the cluster. It looks like the relay in your picture has its own harness. If I can't find a switch with the connector, I may need to look you up again. Thanks again.

The reason I want the switch is because i don't want to drill any holes in the dash for an aftermarket switch. If there is an aftermarket switch that will fit in hole next to the e-brake that will work, I am open to that. I have read that some will not function properly though due to a difference in the circuit board or something like that.

[CTScott]

The relays that we posted are the same (his is a better deal though). There are a bunch of different Toyota part numbers that all are identical in form, fit and function.

With the fog switch, unless you buy the real Toyota one you may have some issues. When you use the fuse panel relay method, the fog lights just need a switch to connect pin 2 to pin 3 on the headlight stalk. The OEM switch separates this switch from the lighting input for the indicators on the switch.

The problem with a lot of the aftermarket switches is that they combine the switch circuit with the indicator lighting circuit. This causes one of the indicators to remain on, even when the car is off.

The switch that I used would easily fit in one of the center knockouts, but to me the fog switch belongs on the stalk or by the dimmer, not in the center console.

[Treyz]

I've used this guide twice (both Yarii) ...

http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9473&highlight=DIY+Fog+lights

The relay we posted up from ebay beats the dealers part which went from $23 (las year) to $71.33 (this year). I asked the dealerships I called, "you mean to tell me that there was an almost $50 price hike on this relay?" They wewre stumped by my Q and had no legit answer.

[Jrilla]

CTScott can you post a picture of your switch that you put next to the dimmer? And also a link to a similar switch? If it looks good on your's I might consider this location. I just can't imagine cutting a hole in my dash that would look like it was from the factory.

Right now I am considering just using the parking lights to trigger the fog lights (with my own relay for now) to see if I like the look of the aftermarket fogs I have installed. If I like them I will want to find a switch that works. Otherwise I will just get the entire kit and then buy the 09 trim pieces from toyota (only $22 + tax).

I have seen switches that don't separate the illum from the switch, and it seems like there should be a distinct difference between the switches that do this and do not. Any ideas?

I ordered the relay already so I could get this install going, and since i am already going to install a remote starter, i might as well just put an extra relay under the dash for to turn on the fogs whenever the parking lights are on just to see if I like the ones I installed. They look good now, but I haven't run any juice to them yet. They may be completely off line for all I know. And since I JB welded them into the blank trim pieces, there is no adjustment. I will post back once the install is complete, but for now, thanks for the input. If you find or have a switch that you know will work, let me know.

Thanks again.

[CTScott]

CTScott can you post a picture of your switch that you put next to the dimmer? And also a link to a similar switch? If it looks good on your's I might consider this location. I just can't imagine cutting a hole in my dash that would look like it was from the factory.

Right now I am considering just using the parking lights to trigger the fog lights (with my own relay for now) to see if I like the look of the aftermarket fogs I have installed. If I like them I will want to find a switch that works. Otherwise I will just get the entire kit and then buy the 09 trim pieces from toyota (only $22 + tax).

I have seen switches that don't separate the illum from the switch, and it seems like there should be a distinct difference between the switches that do this and do not. Any ideas?

I ordered the relay already so I could get this install going, and since i am already going to install a remote starter, i might as well just put an extra relay under the dash for to turn on the fogs whenever the parking lights are on just to see if I like the ones I installed. They look good now, but I haven't run any juice to them yet. They may be completely off line for all I know. And since I JB welded them into the blank trim pieces, there is no adjustment. I will post back once the install is complete, but for now, thanks for the input. If you find or have a switch that you know will work, let me know.

Thanks again.

Here's mine:
27157


I'm not sure about finding the switches that do vs. do not separate switching from illumination (other than with the OEM switch).

[Yaris0609]

I have a set of 09 fog covers. i can ship them to you for 35 dollars, they are brand new in the packaging. PM me if you want them.

[Jrilla]

Where did you get that switch? I never thought of a round switch since all the ones in the kits are rectangular.

Thanks anyway Yaris0609 I can get them from the dealer for $30. And I am not sure if I need them yet. However it is looking more like I will need them since I didn't realize the blank trim pieces were not facing straight when I JB welded my lights to them.

[CTScott]

Where did you get that switch? I never thought of a round switch since all the ones in the kits are rectangular.

Thanks anyway Yaris0609 I can get them from the dealer for $30. And I am not sure if I need them yet. However it is looking more like I will need them since I didn't realize the blank trim pieces were not facing straight when I JB welded my lights to them.

The switch is from digikey:
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=67-1909-ND

I printed a label for it with my label printer.

[Jrilla]

I just looked at my dash and I don't have any room right there like you do. I'll have to find another place. Thanks for the help.

[Altitude]

^^^^

That relay is if you are to follow installing the lights via the system itslef and have it show up on the cluster.

(P.S. got mine for $7.90 [includes shipping] from ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-RELAY-90084-98031-powertrain-ecm-horn-fan-fog_W0QQitemZ180366993473QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item29feb5e841&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116)


I used the relay that came with my kit and just wired the contacts to the factory relay plug and I get the dash indicator. You don't *need* to have the factory relay to plug in to get the dash light to work.

[Treyz]

I used the relay that came with my kit and just wired the contacts to the factory relay plug and I get the dash indicator. You don't *need* to have the factory relay to plug in to get the dash light to work.
You can, but it requires more work and about the same in $ if you have to go and buy the wire and the crimp blades (assuming thats what you did).

Pic of your work? Curious to see exactly how you did the wiring.

[Jrilla]

So I thought about it and I am pretty sure I am going to buy the kit. I screwed up the lights by JB Welding them to the blank trim pieces at the wrong angle so it would be too messy to make them straight and it would look cheap.

Here are the 2 I am looking at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-07-Toyota-Yaris-4DR-Oem-JDM-Bumper-Fog-Lights-Clear_W0QQitemZ380148054252QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item588296f8ec&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-07-Toyota-Yaris-4DR-JDM-Bumper-Fog-Light-Clear_W0QQitemZ120456926039QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c0bcad357&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


Do you think either one would work or would one be better than the other? Both say for only 06 and 07 4 dr, but I have an 09 and the trim pieces look very similar.

Thanks

[Jrilla]

Thanks guys for all the help so far. I am still trying to get my fogs installed before I buy anything else, and I am not sure what I need to connect to the under hood fuse box. I know what pin I need to connect to, but I don't have any female spade connectors that will work to connect to that pin. It looks like the perfect sized connector comes with the kits from the first picture above. Does anyone know where to get that part by itself. My auto parts stores don't carry those particular parts, but they may have something that would work if I knew what I was looking for. I thought about just soldering the wire to the actual wire below the connector, but I don't feel like taking the entire fuse box off yet. I tried releasing the connector itself, but did not know how and did not want to break anything trying.

Any info is very much appreciated. Thanks

[CTScott]

I found that a power pin for an old PC/AT style power supply connector worked perfectly (the old single row connectors with six pins each).

The real Toyota pin is part number 82998-24380 (and include the pin and 160mm of wire crimped to it).

[1NZYaris1]

You need this , you can make it yourself , PM me or PM Garm if you want to buy one

Garm supplies these with the correct relay with his foglight kits.

[Jrilla]

Thanks anyway, I out grew stuffed animals and plastic rulers last year and I don't want to risk a regression.

I will let you know if I can't find anything locally. Is it really necessary to use both pins? I can't see what benefit that would have when they are just connected to each other a few inches away from the connector. I was only planning on using 1 pin, unless I end up with that connector of course.

The only extra power supply I have has all round and square pin connectors.

Thanks

[Altitude]

You can, but it requires more work and about the same in $ if you have to go and buy the wire and the crimp blades (assuming thats what you did).

Pic of your work? Curious to see exactly how you did the wiring.

I didn't want to wait to have to mail order the actual relay and I had all the parts on hand to do it this way.

Anyhow, here's a pic of the wires going to the relay plug. Not a lot of help, but you get the idea... these wires are connected to the contact pins of the relay included with my fog light kit.

[PROX4x4]

Here's an ebay link to the relay for just over $10 with shipping (I bought my relay from this seller):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-RELAY-90987-02027-Heater-Main-Power-Fuel-Tail_W0QQitemZ350226418447QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item518b1f0b0f&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

For the switch, I used an illuminated rocker switch and mounted it next to the dimmer rheostat.

Scott,

I bought a fog light kit from DT Moto from Ebay, the did not send me the relay that goes under the dash.
What I understood is that switch powers the relay (close the contacts) using pin# 3 (headlight low beam)? and we can wire the contact points of the relay to the vertical pins of where the orgininal relay goes under the dash?

Followed a lot of threads by you and other members, just want to make sure I know what I am doing.

Thanks!

[PROX4x4]

Scott,

I bought a fog light kit from DT Moto from Ebay, the did not send me the relay that goes under the dash.
What I understood is that switch powers the relay (close the contacts) using pin# 3 (headlight low beam)? and we can wire the contact points of the relay to the vertical pins of where the orgininal relay goes under the dash?

Followed a lot of threads by you and other members, just want to make sure I know what I am doing.

Thanks!

BTW, do you have the twin read wire that goes under the dash fuse box (positive foglight) and the original relay? I couldn't find it anywhere.

[CTScott]

Scott,

I bought a fog light kit from DT Moto from Ebay, the did not send me the relay that goes under the dash.
What I understood is that switch powers the relay (close the contacts) using pin# 3 (headlight low beam)? and we can wire the contact points of the relay to the vertical pins of where the orgininal relay goes under the dash?

Followed a lot of threads by you and other members, just want to make sure I know what I am doing.

Thanks!

That is correct. The picture in #21 above shows that.

I have an extra one of the relays and the pins that you need for the under-hood fuse box, if you are interested.