The elusive instrument cluster!

[Lewis]

want to change out my base manual trans hatchback 2009 w/abs instrument cluster with no tach for one with a tach

anyone with the part for sale or leads to one please message me

THANKS!

[MGargano]

I tried some junk yards for you today, including the one I got mine from, but so far no luck

[MGargano]

Check this out:

http://www.automotix.net/usedautoparts/2008-toyota-yaris-speedometer-inventory.html

[Lewis]

well luckily this is not time sensitive so any time it's found it'll be ok- my dealer will reset the odo btw to match my ECU so I'm good to go when I find the part. Thanks for your help Mike- I do think these are hard to find but I'll keep at it because I just don't care for the aftermarket look- as nicely as some have done it, it's just not my style.

L.

[MGargano]

At least your dealer agreed to reset the ODO. I just called mine and was told they can't do it, that they're programmed from directly from Toyota. What a bunch of BS. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with the lower mileage on the new cluster! :laugh:

[Lewis]

if you can get to Crystal Toyota in Greenbrook you'll be ok Mike

don't know where you are in our fair state

:-)

[MGargano]

Hmm not sure where that is. I'm in Middletown, which is central NJ, close to Sandy Hook area.

[Lewis]

Green Brook is Somerset county 5 miles from the county seat in Somerville on route 22

the humor of this situation strikes me today- you have the cluster and i have a dealer to reset the odo- between us we could do one car properly

LOL

[MGargano]

LOL. Looks like that dealer's about 40 minutes from me. I'll have to give them a call.

[Lewis]

LOL. Looks like that dealer's about 40 minutes from me. I'll have to give them a call.

I did get my car there so that might have helped me with this issue- They fussed a bit about it before relenting- just like they did before shutting off my seatbelt chime via their computer hookup.

Good luck- they seem a bit better than most dealers to work with.

[MGargano]

Any idea who you talked to? After getting transferred to three different people, I was told they can't do it either.

[Lewis]

It was a middle aged guy- forgot his name- the service manager.

I think your best bet is to just show up there- and ask for the manager- it'll take 5 minutes for them to do it if they agree. The damn thing is that's the way I got their ok - phone was hopeless- when I thought the crook who sold me the cluster I just returned sold me one with a tach- and it had no tach after all.

[MGargano]

Here's an email I got from one place:

Dear Mike,
Thank you for requesting a quote from D&J Auto Parts. We have the Instrument Cluster you requested, in stock. Most parts come with a 90 day warranty. We try to beat any vendor's price. Please call
888-910-2444, or 888-910-0777.

Please use the promotion code:
895184 to get a $10 off of regular price on any item over $100.

I just called and it seems they're out to lunch, but I'd try them back.

[Lewis]

thanks!

[TheRealEnth]

o snap its in florida... would it hook up fine with an automatic?

[MGargano]

o snap its in florida... would it hook up fine with an automatic?

Yes. AFAIK all the "S"'s are automatics and the cluster has a gear indicator display in the lower right corner.

[Lewis]

there's a thread on the Board that says the manual/auto is interchangeable post 2007- but of cause there's the issue of the lights - PDRL

[Lewis]

i believe/hope that on a stick the PDRL lights just don't light up?

[MGargano]

i believe/hope that on a stick the PDRL lights just don't light up?

No the PDRL lights won't do anything unless you have an auto. Mine is a 5 speed and they don't light up on my car.

[Lewis]

are the PDRL lights very noticeable when non lit Mike?

[MGargano]

are the PDRL lights very noticeable when non lit Mike?

Not at all.

[Lewis]

good- you know i wonder how long it's going to take to strike paydirt? The cost of a new one just seems totally out of line to me- the prices i've seen on the board here for new range from $420 up! so it'll be used or nothing i think.

Still checking everywhere i can think of

[MGargano]

Yea my dealer wanted $520 and none of the places I called will sell it new without first verifying the mileage and programming the cluster so I'd say used is definitely the way to go...assuming you can find one, of course. It's just that a parted-out 2009 "S" is gonna be a rare thing to find.

[Lewis]

came close a couple of times on eBay- but i just don't want to forego the ABS light for safety although I could probably live with big KmPH w/ small Mph.

[TheRealEnth]

Check this out:

http://www.automotix.net/usedautoparts/2008-toyota-yaris-speedometer-inventory.html

um? doesnt that work for you guys? or no because u guys are 2009? is it really a diff?>

[Lewis]

um? doesnt that work for you guys? or no because u guys are 2009? is it really a diff?>

no go- need the ABS light

[TheRealEnth]

? why do u need ABS light?

[Lewis]

? why do u need ABS light?

because my car has ABS- safety issue to me- to know ABS is ok:iono:

[MGargano]

are the PDRL lights very noticeable when non lit Mike?

um? doesnt that work for you guys? or no because u guys are 2009? is it really a diff?>

The gauges on the 08 are also shaped and colored differently than the 09

[MGargano]

Any luck with that place D&J I gave you yesterday? If not, try here: Knucklebusters Used Auto Parts @ 1-877-453-0909. I got an email from them too.

[mrbond]

came close a couple of times on eBay- but i just don't want to forego the ABS light for safety although I could probably live with big KmPH w/ small Mph.

I have the KPH cluster, and it only took me a few days to adjust from reading MPH to KPH. Not a big deal whatsoever. If you're worried about the ABS light, talk to CTscott about that warning light. He's incredibly knowledgeable about the Yaris's electronics and he'd probably be able to help you with getting that light working on one of those clusters one way or another. BTW, my cluster cost under $80 including shipping on eBay.

[Lewis]

tried them both Mike- still no luck

I'm hopeless regarding auto electronics. While I'm sure CT could rig something up that works- but for me- realistically it needs to be plug and play.

L.

[CTScott]

I have the KPH cluster, and it only took me a few days to adjust from reading MPH to KPH. Not a big deal whatsoever. If you're worried about the ABS light, talk to CTscott about that warning light. He's incredibly knowledgeable about the Yaris's electronics and he'd probably be able to help you with getting that light working on one of those clusters one way or another. BTW, my cluster cost under $80 including shipping on eBay.

The combination meter gets the ABS info via the CAN bus, so unfortunately there really isn't a way to add the light to a non-ABS cluster.

[Lewis]

thanks CT

[MGargano]

Just got another email. Try here: All the Time Auto @ 904-683-8302 or 904-738-7832

[Lewis]

Just got another email. Try here: All the Time Auto @ 904-683-8302 or 904-738-7832will do!:wink::wink:

[Lewis]

will do!:wink::wink:

Just checked- no go :iono:

[mrbond]

The combination meter gets the ABS info via the CAN bus, so unfortunately there really isn't a way to add the light to a non-ABS cluster.
lol no I meant that perhaps you could rig an external light that would do the same as the light in an abs equipped cluster. This way, finding a cluster with a tach won't be as hard.

[CTScott]

lol no I meant that perhaps you could rig an external light that would do the same as the light in an abs equipped cluster. This way, finding a cluster with a tach won't be as hard.

Understood. My point though was that ABS is controlled by the ECM and the only indicator output is via CAN BUS message to the cluster.

[Lewis]

The required cluster is proving virtually impossible to find for me. I'd really like to do the switch but in all honesty I wouldn't go as far as it would seem to be necessary to modify a cluster without the ABS light. There would always be the question in my mind whether the ABS is really ok. These warning lights are wonky as they are without a fool like me messing with them. Right now my 6 month old car has the tire pressure warning light lit and when I checked the actual tire pressure the tires are all ok. So it's to the dealer to get it fixed under warranty. Imagine getting your dealer to fix this problem with a modified cluster!