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SweetRS
08-26-2009, 12:23 PM
Do the rear hub spacers change camber at all?

Brentorius
08-26-2009, 12:25 PM
No

Tamago
08-26-2009, 12:29 PM
rear hub spacers from penguingarage.com come with camber shims, they add about -1deg of camber.

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 12:40 PM
is it possible to add the shims that Garm sell aswell as the shims that are on the spacers?

Tamago
08-26-2009, 12:48 PM
is it possible to add the shims that Garm sell aswell as the shims that are on the spacers?

i don't know what garm sells, please post a picture

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 12:51 PM
http://shop.microimageonline.com/product.sc?productId=77&categoryId=4

Tamago
08-26-2009, 12:52 PM
no, they won't work together.

i don't recommend using plastic shims anyway

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 12:56 PM
well, i gotta do something, :confused:, need answers!! lol

Tamago
08-26-2009, 12:58 PM
well, i gotta do something, :confused:, need answers!! lol

ask the question please, you haven't asked or told why you want to combine shims?

TheRealEnth
08-26-2009, 01:32 PM
if you want more camber you dont need to combine shims

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 01:45 PM
how do i get the most negative camber in the rear? if i decide to stuff wider wheel/tire (15X8, 195/45/15) back there and have it fit...with rolling the fender ofcoarse

Tamago
08-26-2009, 02:36 PM
how do i get the most negative camber in the rear? if i decide to stuff wider wheel/tire (15X8, 195/45/15) back there and have it fit...with rolling the fender ofcoarse

if you want more than an extra 1-2 degrees rear camber, you'll want to look into custom shims. Penguin Garage toyed with the idea as well as the Kiwi, but no one bit. no point in spending hundreds on R&D to sell one measly set of camber shims.

you could always stack the shims from penguingarage ;) put two under each lower bolt each side, get an extra 2deg camber. not recommended, but iv'e seen it done on the honda fit with no ill effects.

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 02:51 PM
if you want more than an extra 1-2 degrees rear camber, you'll want to look into custom shims. Penguin Garage toyed with the idea as well as the Kiwi, but no one bit. no point in spending hundreds on R&D to sell one measly set of camber shims.

you could always stack the shims from penguingarage ;) put two under each lower bolt each side, get an extra 2deg camber. not recommended, but iv'e seen it done on the honda fit with no ill effects.

Hmmm, interesting! hey if hondas can do it so can we...im just curious though, would i need longer bolts for that kinda operation?and if there is a slight angle of the hub are the bolt still gonna fit properly? maybe i don treally understand how these work :confused:

Altitude
08-26-2009, 03:00 PM
The bolts supplied by PG are plenty long enough I think. There was more than enough length for my 10mm spacers and I imagine adding 2 shims won't be a problem for the bolt length.

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 03:37 PM
oh i didnt notice that bolts came with it...sweet...

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 03:44 PM
what do the shims from penguin garage look like??

MUSKOKA800
08-26-2009, 03:56 PM
Have you checked with an alignment shop to see what they'd us to correct extreme positive camber situations (colision repair etc)?
When I had a 4 wheel alignment done the alignment rack did measure those spec's. the tech said the toe was slightly out at one of my rear wheels but not enough to be concerned. He said if I noticed odd tire wear to come in and they'd address it. With shims behind the brakes I assume.

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 04:00 PM
yah i work at a Toyota owned collision repair shop, so, i had an alignment done when i put the springs on...toe was in ever so slightly...

so, what do the shims for the spacer look like??

Altitude
08-26-2009, 04:14 PM
what do the shims from penguin garage look like??

Washers!

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 04:25 PM
oh haha, i figured that i would be washers lol...couldnt i just put washers behind the hub?? instead of buying the spacer if i only want to change the camber and not space it?

Tamago
08-26-2009, 04:25 PM
what do the shims from penguin garage look like??

http://penguingarage.com/Images/PenguinG/CNC_Camber_Shims4.jpg

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19450

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Thanks!! couldnt i just put washers behind the hub?? instead of buying the spacer if i only want to change the camber and not space it?

nevermind, just read it all...Thanks man...why wouldnt more ppl be using washers to fix there camber though??

Tamago
08-26-2009, 05:05 PM
Thanks!! couldnt i just put washers behind the hub?? instead of buying the spacer if i only want to change the camber and not space it?

nevermind, just read it all...Thanks man...why wouldnt more ppl be using washers to fix there camber though??

because the average consumer does not care about rear camber :wub:

SweetRS
08-26-2009, 05:10 PM
very true, well, i will....soon, :bellyroll: