MacNeil Automotive products misrepresentations

[tomjasz]

I purchased MacNeil W71 and W20 front and back rubber mats. They were listed as the sizes for 2007 Yaris LB. They arrive and were marked as fitting "Camry". I called customer support and was told they were the proper fit "what we sell for the Yaris". THE FIT TOTALLY SUCKED!!! I called again and was told, "we tell you over and over they are not custom fit". Here's what the web site says after linking to a 2007 LB.......

"Classic™ Premium Rubber Mats




The WeatherTech® Classic™ Premium Rubber Floor Mats are made out of natural heavy-duty rubber. These all-weather mats have deeply sculpted channels designed to trap water, road salt, mud and sand. Made of up to 16 lbs. of pliable natural rubber, these mats won't curl, crack or harden in sub-zero weather. Our Classic™ mats also have anti-skid ridges to prevent shifting in your vehicle and come with a protective, non-stick finish to make cleanup quick and easy.

WeatherTech® Classic™ Premium Rubber Floor Mats meet FMVSS302, are TUV approved, and are manufactured to ISO 9001 standards, your assurance of quality. Choose from Black, Tan or Grey to complement virtually any interior color.

Available for most cars, trucks, SUV's or minivans.

Rear mats are designed to be trimmed so that they may be customized to fit almost any vehicle."

Nothing about the front mats being over 4" over sized with NO provision to trim. They arrived marked for a "camry".

FUK MACNEIL!!!! 100USD for mats that are NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!
BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!

[riceboy]

100USD why didn't you buy the OEM from the dealer?

[tomjasz]

100USD why didn't you buy the OEM from the dealer?


Have you seen the OEM? About as cheap as the Yaris carpet......The MacNeil product is really a nice mat, just misrepresented as to fit....

[IsLNdbOi]

I bought some front seat and back seat floor mats from Wal-Mart that fit very well. They also have the deep channels that collect water and dirt. Super easy to clean, fits well and best of all, the four mats cost less than $20.

I bought WeatherTech / MacNeil Automotive side window deflectors and they fit perfectly. Nice quality too.

[ChinoCharles]

All weather floor mats in Vegas, eh?

Thanks for the heads up tomjasz, I had my eye on these before reading this post.

[tomjasz]

I bought some front seat and back seat floor mats from Wal-Mart that fit very well. They also have the deep channels that collect water and dirt. Super easy to clean, fits well and best of all, the four mats cost less than $20.

I bought WeatherTech / MacNeil Automotive side window deflectors and they fit perfectly. Nice quality too.


:thumbdown: Walmart suks, unless you prefer to support the chinese economy....:thumbdown:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/

You are correct on the deflectors, which is why I expected better fitting mats...:mad:

[tomjasz]

All weather floor mats in Vegas, eh?

Thanks for the heads up tomjasz, I had my eye on these before reading this post.


Retiring and leaving Las Vegas and moving to Minnesota, plenty of ALL Weather conditions there!!!!

You're welcome!

[IsLNdbOi]

:thumbdown: Walmart suks, unless you prefer to support the chinese economy....:thumbdown:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/

You are correct on the deflectors, which is why I expected better fitting mats...:mad:


Wal-Mart is owned by Chinese?

Anyway, the cardboard thing stuck to the mats said they were made in the USA.

[eTiMaGo]

I think there's a new city in China called "The USA" so they can get away with saying that :biggrin:

[tomjasz]

Wal-Mart is owned by Chinese?

Anyway, the cardboard thing stuck to the mats said they were made in the USA.

Jeez kid read and learn, thats why the link was provided....

[gonzo452001]

Hard to find much that isn't made in china these days

[tomjasz]

All weather floor mats in Vegas, eh?

Thanks for the heads up tomjasz, I had my eye on these before reading this post.
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UPDATE: MacNeil would NOT pay for return shipping.:barf: I filed a complaint with the BBB and suddenly they admit that the mats don't fit properly, :iono: although they still list them as fitting.:thumbdown: I got a notice from the shipper that a return tag is on the way.:thumbup: To bad they didn't fit they were really nice!!!:drinking:

[ChinoCharles]

:thumbdown: Walmart suks, unless you prefer to support the chinese economy....:thumbdown:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/

You are correct on the deflectors, which is why I expected better fitting mats...:mad:

SO TRUE! I spend probably $15 a year at Walmart out of desperation... otherwise I'll go all out and visit a TARGET! :rolleyes: At least they have health care.

[07WYarisRS]

:thumbdown: Walmart suks, unless you prefer to support the chinese economy....:thumbdown:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/

You are correct on the deflectors, which is why I expected better fitting mats...:mad:

You bought an Asian built car but won't support an asian owned company?
Last time I looked every person working in a US or Candian walmart was a US or Canadian citizen.
Take away all the walmarts and you take away a LOT of Amaerican jobs.

[xfatefailsx07]

You bought an Asian built car but won't support an asian owned company?
Last time I looked every person working in a US or Candian walmart was a US or Canadian citizen.
Take away all the walmarts and you take away a LOT of jobs.
strong point proven.... which i stand by totally

[IsLNdbOi]

You bought an Asian built car but won't support an asian owned company?
Last time I looked every person working in a US or Candian walmart was a US or Canadian citizen.
Take away all the walmarts and you take away a LOT of jobs.

I've seen him post stuff like that in other threads. Just have to ignore people that think like him.

[Terrorize]

You bought an Asian built car but won't support an asian owned company?
Last time I looked every person working in a US or Candian walmart was a US or Canadian citizen.
Take away all the walmarts and you take away a LOT of jobs.

Totally agree....plus no one really supports either party's economy more than the other by buying a product...it's a joint thing...you support them and in turn also support your own economy..

So what if you support the Chinese or Japanese Economy? They also bring the money they earned and spend it in North American in tourism dollars...or their countries buy stuff from us too... :thumbsup:

[hasher22]

Isnt the message is conveyed as (In another phrase) "why eat chinese food when you dislike the people"???


Ill shutup now

[tomjasz]

You bought an Asian built car but won't support an asian owned company?
Last time I looked every person working in a US or Candian walmart was a US or Canadian citizen.
Take away all the walmarts and you take away a LOT of jobs.

If you take a few moments to do just a bit of research you'll find that China is one of the most incidious polluters on the planet. Dead rivers filled with toxic waste. Fisheman with open sores from contact with the water. China is a drving force behind petrol demand polluting the planet at incredible rates and all teh while taking more and more jobs from Americans and Europeans. I find that to be an unfair advantage. How the fuk do you make a correlation lumping all Asian contries as being the same? Or is it because you think they all look alike? I bought a JAPANESE CAR not an Asian car. All my other Toyota vehicles were built by Americans. China has no investment in the US. Walmart preys on lower income Americans and provides few benefits to it's workers.

:barf:

[tomjasz]

Totally agree....plus no one really supports either party's economy more than the other by buying a product...it's a joint thing...you support them and in turn also support your own economy..

So what if you support the Chinese or Japanese Economy? They also bring the money they earned and spend it in North American in tourism dollars...or their countries buy stuff from us too... :thumbsup:



Obviously you have no understanding of the term "trade deficit". Sheesh...
Walmart is singely responsible for near 15% thaT'S ONE COMPANY!!!:thumbdown:

[Ran Kizama]

lol @ Anti-Wal-Mart

You don't like the OEM ones, you don't like the Wal-Mart ones, but the ones you do like don't fit. Sounds like you're up the creek man. Either way, this thread went straight to crap in two pages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/TrainThread.jpg

[07WYarisRS]

If you take a few moments to do just a bit of research you'll find that China is one of the most incidious polluters on the planet. Dead rivers filled with toxic waste. Fisheman with open sores from contact with the water. China is a drving force behind petrol demand polluting the planet at incredible rates and all teh while taking more and more jobs from Americans and Europeans. I find that to be an unfair advantage. How the fuk do you make a correlation lumping all Asian contries as being the same? Or is it because you think they all look alike? I bought a JAPANESE CAR not an Asian car. All my other Toyota vehicles were built by Americans. China has no investment in the US. Walmart preys on lower income Americans and provides few benefits to it's workers.

:barf:

SO?
An califinia is the worst on our side of the world...
go figure

"Walmart preys on lower income Americans and provides few benefits to it's workers. "

Yeah so they take people that may otherwise be homeles or far less off and give them a steady paycheck. So phuckin what they don't get great or even decent benifits at least they have enough $$$ to survive. The little guy needs to eat to.

Just sitting here at my desk I look at a few things within arms reach
Powerbar Made in china.
Harmon Kardon sound system made in china
CA mircophone made in china
Microsoft wireless mouse made in china
picture frame made in china
pen holder made in chin
leather chair made in china
CDrack made in china
desk light made in china
Rayovac and Chicago Electric nickle meta hydride batterys Made in china
Chicago electric Battery charge made in china
GE phone made in china even the battery inside was made in china
Digital Cam made in china
3com web cam made in china
wireless head set made in china
RCA TV and remote made in china

If you think you bought a car that contains no products or supplies from CHINA you got another thing comming.
Just like there are no big all american made cars anymore... That all have parts and components from all over the world.
Some from China, Japan, Thailand, korea
Same with Harley. One of their largest producing plants is the fatboy plant in Brazil. Bang goes thoes American jobs.

If you don't want to support the country you had better take a walk around you home and toss out everything made in china. That means everything including things like DVD's cd, power cables, remotes, lightbulbs, furniture, clothing etc.
Then you need to check what all the American made products you have and make sure the product suppies are not supplied from China.
I highly doubt ond navy or the American eagle manufacture thier own own zippers, rivets and buttons. I wonder where they come from.

I mean come on....
How many other stores do you boycott because that sell or are owned by chineese people.

[ChinoCharles]

Yeah so they take people that may otherwise be homeles or far less off and give them a steady paycheck. So phuckin what they don't get great or even decent benifits at least they have enough $$$ to survive. The little guy needs to eat to.

Thats funny, whenever I go into a Wal-Mart I usually don't see people that were ever homeless. It is usually men and women that grew older and things like inflation and energy prices made their once-ample retirement funds seem insufficient, so this wonderful savior of a company (:rolleyes:) came along and gave these seniors minimum wage jobs with shit benefits. Now they have to struggle to work 35 hours a week so they can afford the enormous perscription deductibles they're stuck with...

You guys can argue about free trade and the effect of Chinese mass-production on world economies alllll day long... but you had better not argue that Wal-Mart is in any way shape or form positive. The place is fucking EVIL... it stands as the bastion of extreme capitalism, and all of the negative socioeconomic effects that go with it. I'm not going to sit here and argue that Wal-Mart prays on the American consumer... their prices are by far the best on pretty much everything they carry. I will argue that they pray on the American WORKER, the American SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, and the American SENIOR.

Myself... we as children were raised not to shop there... that goes for my extended family as well. I only hope more families begin to do the same in the future... I know I'm going to tell my kids that they should never shop there, lest they want people thinking of them as some cheap fucking hillbillies with no regard for the economic health of AMERICA.

NOW THATS PATRIOTISM BITCHES har har har

[Ran Kizama]

Myself... we as children were raised not to shop there... that goes for my extended family as well. I only hope more families begin to do the same in the future... I know I'm going to tell my kids that they should never shop there, lest they want people thinking of them as some cheap fucking hillbillies with no regard for the economic health of AMERICA.

NOW THATS PATRIOTISM BITCHES har har harHave them join the military. Then they can be patriotic and shop at the PX/BX/Commisary while serving our country. :smile:

[ChinoCharles]

Haha, hopefully by then Ran our country would have reestablished some credibility in their foreign policy... then I'd be all for it. Right now, I'd tie my kid to a bed before letting him join... sorry.

[Ran Kizama]

Haha, hopefully by then Ran our country would have reestablished some credibility in their foreign policy... then I'd be all for it. Right now, I'd tie my kid to a bed before letting him join... sorry.Fat chance. Our country is going to hell in a handbasket. Raise your kids to be wiser than their peers and hopefully they can make a difference. :thumbsup:

[tomjasz]

Thats funny, I will argue that they pray on the American WORKER, the American SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, and the American SENIOR.

Myself... we as children were raised not to shop there... that goes for my extended family as well. I only hope more families begin to do the same in the future... I know I'm going to tell my kids that they should never shop there, lest they want people thinking of them as some cheap fucking hillbillies with no regard for the economic health of AMERICA.

NOW THATS PATRIOTISM BITCHES har har har

Interesting to get a Canadian view, the workers there get health care. fuk this thread it was intended to warn off suckers from buying mats from MacNeil that won't fit. I agree 1000% with your view Chino!!!

[KSIbucky]

SO TRUE! I spend probably $15 a year at Walmart out of desperation... otherwise I'll go all out and visit a TARGET! :rolleyes: At least they have health care.
targets owned by a out of nation company

[tomjasz]

targets owned by a out of nation company


when did Minnesota secede from the union?

[Goose]

If you're looking for a good source for all-weather mats (or any other kind of mats/etc), try AutoAnything.com. I've bought a number of sets of mats, a few car covers, and a few other items - all fit great and performed as promised. I can't vouch for what may or may not be made in China though...

I'm not affiliated with these guys at all, I just like to steer folks to them since I had good experiences with them. Hope this helps. :smile:

[tomjasz]

If you're looking for a good source for all-weather mats (or any other kind of mats/etc), try AutoAnything.com. I've bought a number of sets of mats, a few car covers, and a few other items - all fit great and performed as promised. I can't vouch for what may or may not be made in China though...

I'm not affiliated with these guys at all, I just like to steer folks to them since I had good experiences with them. Hope this helps. :smile:
Thanks Goose I spoke with them and they have a great fitting mat set for 70USD!!:thumbup:

[nsmitchell]

Floormats! hehe

[ChinoCharles]

Tomjasz, which ones did you get?

[Goose]

Glad to hear that AutoAnything could help in this matter. :smile:

Please share your experiences (what you got and how they fit) once you've installed 'em.

[tomjasz]

Glad to hear that AutoAnything could help in this matter. :smile:

Please share your experiences (what you got and how they fit) once you've installed 'em.


I'll post a overlay picture of the MacNeil and of the AutoAnything mats as soon as the new ones arrive.

Thanks again:bow:

[tomjasz]

I've seen him post stuff like that in other threads. Just have to ignore people that think like him.


Kids should read more....

"WAL-MART, HANES, J.C. PENNEY AND PUMA SWEATSHOP SCANDAL
Major U.S. clothing companies continue to exploit children in overseas sweatshops. In the latest in a series of reports from the National Labor Committee (NLC), brand name Wal-Mart, Hanes, J.C. Penney, and Puma clothes have been traced to a Bangladesh sweatshop. An estimated 200 children, some under eleven years of age, are being forced to work over 100 hours per week and are being paid six and a half cents per hour to make these clothes. "It is time for these U.S. companies to act immediately, today, to guarantee that this does not happen and that the children are returned to school," said Charles Kernaghan, director of the NLC. Check out OCA's Clothes for a Change campaign to learn more about organic and fair trade clothes and textiles. http://www.organicconsumers.org/clothes/"

[IsLNdbOi]

You believe everything you read on the internet?

Anyway sometimes the situation is so dire that these families in 3rd world countries do what they can to survive. I know from first hand experience...

[Reddington]

I think all the griping over Wal-Mart is pretty rediculous when the same people that complain about them go to Target or some discount retailer that gets say 75% of their stuff from China instead of 90%.

Also you have to give Wal-Mart credit for their $4 generic drug program. That's more to help this country than the government has been able to do.

China isn't going to be able to sell cheap things forever. Once they run out of money they are using to artificially hold down their currency value, suddenly things from China won't be so cheap anymore...

[ChinoCharles]

So how about them floor mats.... haha.

[tomjasz]

You believe everything you read on the internet?

Anyway sometimes the situation is so dire that these families in 3rd world countries do what they can to survive. I know from first hand experience...


you really are a boi!:eek:

Would you believe Harvard Law? NY Times?:barf:

[tomjasz]

Glad to hear that AutoAnything could help in this matter. :smile:

Please share your experiences (what you got and how they fit) once you've installed 'em.



Autoanything not as heavy and will not hold as much water but 30% less, fit right and free shipping.

[tomjasz]

Autoanything not as heavy and will not hold as much water but 30% less, fit right and free shipping.


Trying again oops...

[tomjasz]

Trying again oops...
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[Goose]

I'm glad the AutoAnything mats fit at least a little better than the MacNeil's. Based on the pictures, it looks like a little quality time with a good pair of scissors would clean up the AutoAnything mats' shape if you feel like doing so (I've done this with some of my mats of this type).

I hope that AutoAnything didn't sell these mats as a high-capacity "slush-collecting" kind of mat. Again, based on the pictures, they really look more like a light-duty "protect your interior from a little crud" kind of mat. Still, for the price, they look pretty good.

Hope they do the job for you. :smile:

[tomjasz]

I'm glad the AutoAnything mats fit at least a little better than the MacNeil's. Based on the pictures, it looks like a little quality time with a good pair of scissors would clean up the AutoAnything mats' shape if you feel like doing so (I've done this with some of my mats of this type).

I hope that AutoAnything didn't sell these mats as a high-capacity "slush-collecting" kind of mat. Again, based on the pictures, they really look more like a light-duty "protect your interior from a little crud" kind of mat. Still, for the price, they look pretty good.

Hope they do the job for you. :smile:
Thanks Kevin, they do the job with out trimming! :thumbup: No water holding capacity :thumbdown: but good coverage!

Thanks Again, they were worth the price!::bow: