So, now the norm is to just ban anyone

[SIPNGAS]

who speaks up? You're getting rid of the people who kept this site going when you didn't care to check in, let alone wonder how things were running.


:thumbdown:

[SIPNGAS]

Then we should be told.

[Tamago]

who got banninated?

[eTiMaGo]

As Lisa said, there's more to it... Charles is voluntarily banned... I am still gonna stick around here as a regular member cuz I just love you guys, no hard feelings :smile:

[AlexNet0]

this is retarded...

[thebarber]

*edit*

wait, im staying the hell out of this...

[Tamago]

your best friend Chino, and a couple of mods "resigned" cause they got fed up or something. basically more mama drama

i don't have a best friend





http://smiliesftw.com/x/huge_emo.gif

[eTiMaGo]

not enough eyeliner...

[Tamago]

yes but look at that hair!

[kustom play]

this site has kinda slid downhill

i use to be on the site all the time, now i feel i can get caught up on all the important stuff if i check it once a week vs once a day

[Slick]

OMFG! We are all gonna die! :(

I miss you already admin eTiMaGo, Chino, and Echo! My hats off to your superduperness

[YAR1S]

:/

[JumpmanYaris]

I am still gonna be coming here since this is where it all started for me I seen ppl come and go .

[Slick]

I feel like a little puppy that was left out in the cold :( eTiMaGo, Chino, and Echo have been mods the entire time i've been on this site :( I dont know what i'm going to do w/o their guidance and wit

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

as someone said before this site took a dive some time ago and my lack of posts reflects this. SOOOO, seeing as i have nothing good to say .........

[Slick]

Echo, You did what you thought was right. Which is as admirable as anyone can ask of you. I have a quote on my myspace... "It is better to be hated for who you are, than loved for who your not" This holds true time and time again.

[SailDesign]

what an ignorant post from the OP.

<snippage>


The OP, and her post, are far from iggerant. Uninformed, Yes, but so were we all, and that was the whole point of the post.....

[Sabretooth]

I for one have never been a fan of people just banning persons for no outstanding reason at all.

If they obviously did something out of what is expected of them, we knew who they were and how they were online...thats part of an online community, you always have the jerks, assholes, nice guys, etc. As you would in any mass group of people.

I really think alot of people have done the right think in trying to stand up for what is right personally. I think the actions of the "admin" of the site have been a bit childish in nature when it comes to his direction he wants to take. Even if he doesnt see that he is losing some of the best moderators/members he has available.

Of course this comes to arise new persons who can take responsibility.

I for one am saddened by this all, of course I havnt hit Emokid status like Tamago did. lol.

[mrbond]

I think I'm missing something here - what's this business with the now-ex-moderators? Two threads seem to be centering around this, so can somebody clue me in as to what's up?

[tomato]

WTF?!! :confused:

Where did all the mods go?!!

*edit*

wait, im staying the hell out of this...

On second thought,
+1

[Altitude]

I think I'm missing something here - what's this business with the now-ex-moderators? Two threads seem to be centering around this, so can somebody clue me in as to what's up?

Moderators pissed at Bueller for lack of attention to the site.
Bueller pissed at moderators for actively promoting the MicroImage forum.
Bueller has issues with Garm.
Bueller demoted some moderators, and some demoted themselves because of all the BS.
All in the name of making YarisWorld a better place...

[mrbond]

That is certainly BS. I've noticed a good many posts over several threads (including this one) being deleted. The fun is definitely sliding away...

[KCALB SIRAY]

"I'd like to teach the world to sing.....

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/07/coke_ads/image/hilltop7.jpg

"In perfect harmony......

http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/tdgh-oct/idliketoteach.jpg

"I'd like to buy the world a Coke, and keep it company"

http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20081222-buy-the-world-a-coke.jpg

[Tamago]

That is certainly BS. I've noticed a good many posts over several threads (including this one) being deleted. The fun is definitely sliding away...

a certain moderator went on a power trip and deleted many of my threads awhile ago.. i'm sure he won't be demoted though

[tk-421]

That is certainly BS. I've noticed a good many posts over several threads (including this one) being deleted. The fun is definitely sliding away...

If by "fun" you mean "off-topic and/or offensive" then you are absolutely right. The rest of the posts are right where they're supposed to be.

[tk-421]

a certain moderator went on a power trip and deleted many of my threads awhile ago.. i'm sure he won't be demoted though

I'm putting a good word for you, and I sure hope that tendency to "delete everything you have to say just because you said it" goes away. I, for one, promise to never do such a thing.

Just please stop giving ppl excuses to delete your posts. :wink:

[Sabretooth]

I honestly think that Bueller personally needs to realize what he is doing. I mean really, he gets upset because he feels like his own moderator team "betrayed him?"

When it was that very moderator team, including countless members who revived this whole FORUM, after the hack...He simply was notified the site went down, and payed to have it put back up. The PEOPLE put it back together for him... Hence Yarisworld got to where it is now.

It pisses a lot of people, old members, and new to see someone who has never really played a leading example in the forum, make such choices as he did (banning/demotions/promotions) in such a irrational and quick method as has been done. Its almost something out of a communist state of mind that "If it cant be the way I want it, the hell with everyone else who opposes me."

I was pretty pissed to see Yarisworld be hacked and brought down to pretty much nothing... Im furious that one lone person simply threw a hissy fit and pretty much altered the whole forum leadership structure in what seems like an overnight job to suit his needs.

I dont see one positive thing coming from banning ChinoCharles and running off Thomas and Echo. Other than helpful and knowledgeable members being gone.

Bueller's Communist YW FTL! :thumbdown: :bs:

I will see myself less and less visiting Yarisworld.

[DandiDani]

:cry:

[Tamago]

.net > .com

[Altitude]

I honestly think that Bueller personally needs to realize what he is doing. I mean really, he gets upset because he feels like his own moderator team "betrayed him?"

When it was that very moderator team, including countless members who revived this whole FORUM, after the hack...He simply was notified the site went down, and payed to have it put back up. The PEOPLE put it back together for him... Hence Yarisworld got to where it is now.

It pisses a lot of people, old members, and new to see someone who has never really played a leading example in the forum, make such choices as he did (banning/demotions/promotions) in such a irrational and quick method as has been done. Its almost something out of a communist state of mind that "If it cant be the way I want it, the hell with everyone else who opposes me."

I was pretty pissed to see Yarisworld be hacked and brought down to pretty much nothing... Im furious that one lone person simply threw a hissy fit and pretty much altered the whole forum leadership structure in what seems like an overnight job to suit his needs.

I dont see one positive thing coming from banning ChinoCharles and running off Thomas and Echo. Other than helpful and knowledgeable members being gone.

Bueller's Communist YW FTL! :thumbdown: :bs:

I will see myself less and less visiting Yarisworld.

Your points aren't without merit, but this is Bueller's site. He pays for it and could just as easily shut it down if he wanted to. I hope it won't come to that, but if it does, life goes on.

I liked all the moderators too and Thomas was pretty much the de facto leader IMO. It looks like he's going to stick around even without mod status, so that's good. I hope echo and Charles reconsider as well.

The hack really did screw things up, tons of good information was lost. And even with some of it being brought back it's just not the same.

[Sabretooth]

.net > .com

<raises eyebrow>

[kustom play]

wow i like how my post was deleted

this site offically gets a thumbs down

i guess people cant make open comments anymore :tdown:

[Morgan]

<raises eyebrow>

dont! lol :wink:

[PETERPOOP]

a certain moderator went on a power trip and deleted many of my threads awhile ago.. i'm sure he won't be demoted though

lmao.

[Sabretooth]

wow i like how my post was deleted

this site offically gets a thumbs down

i guess people cant make open comments anymore :tdown:

If mine gets deleted, It will be the end of freedom here on YW...

As long as you dont badtalk the site or its creator, you will not be censored, once you cross the line, you no longer have an open voice.

[blacksandiegovitz]

I for one have never been a fan of people just banning persons for no outstanding reason at all.
If they obviously did something out of what is expected of them, we knew who they were and how they were online...thats part of an online community, you always have the jerks, assholes, nice guys, etc. As you would in any mass group of people.

I really think alot of people have done the right think in trying to stand up for what is right personally. I think the actions of the "admin" of the site have been a bit childish in nature when it comes to his direction he wants to take. Even if he doesnt see that he is losing some of the best moderators/members he has available.

Of course this comes to arise new persons who can take responsibility.

I for one am saddened by this all, of course I havnt hit Emokid status like Tamago did. lol.

I'm agianst banning all together since most of us live in America Goddamit and if not this site is still run from 'America' so freedom of motherfucking speech/type should still apply right? or am I wrong ???????????????
From what i've seen on most forums the people who get banned alway bring "life" to the forum or at least keep it "interesting"...

[YAR1S]

lost a lot of good DIYs for nothing. :/

[Tamago]

you guys are beating a dead horse.. just calm down, it'll all blow over soon.

have a nice cold beer (or whatever you like) and realize something very important. THIS IS THE EFFING INTERNET, DON'T LET IT GET TO YOU!


:biggrin:

[YAR1S]

lol true.
I dont come on here enough nor have the money to spend on my yaris ATM to worry bout anything going on here.

[DandiDani]

:frown:

[Sabretooth]

"Dont pay attention to the man behind the curtain!" says the big scary voice!

[kustom play]

this is bull shit

i keep posting up an opinion and somebody keeps deleting it because i guess its not kissing yarisworld ass

screw this then, im out

[PETERPOOP]

lmao. complete anarchy!

[LtNoogie]

This is about chips? I like chips.

[LtNoogie]

Did you have to turn in your avatar when you quit? You look kinda plain now.

[PETERPOOP]

Almost unrecognizable.

[Kioshi]

I dont know what power trip Charles went on, but I too am pissed about certain things. I know Chino changed when he became a mod, at first he was a complete <whatever>, but as time progressed people got mature and better.

I'm pissed because all those threads and DIYs are gone. I mean c'mon, really Bueller??! Your decisions have led to some of the effects. There hasn't been a SINGLE forum that I've gone to where i check it throughout any location. I've checked this place at work numerous times, in class, at a bar, and a restaurant...I can't stay away from all the great info from people on here...

BUT NOW...I'm straying less and less away from this place because of your actions. Now i do understand "change needs to come in", but the information that is all GONE? No, i dont understand that. I will give "3 more weeks" for this place to bring in positive changes and bring back those useful DIYs and threads....Otherwise.....



I'm forcefully bring myself to MicroImage forums, even though I haven't bought ONE thing from that site. I've bought used parts off of cali yaris and Laszlo....




OR....be done w/ forums and go off into revising all the Japanese I've forgotten and somehow find my way to better communities w/ mature admins and decision being sought out.

[tk-421]

@Kioshi: ChinoCharles deleted the DIY threads himself. There's nothing we can do about that. Sad, but true.

[mikenacarato]

what do you have against microimage kioshi? last time i checked it was owned by caliyaris....the guy you got used parts from.

[Kioshi]

what do you have against microimage kioshi? last time i checked it was owned by caliyaris....the guy you got used parts from.


Mike, i know its owned by the lovable cali yaris aka Garm.
I don't have anything against MicroImage nor it's owner.
Garm's quality of customer service, description of products, and expectation of used products is by far the BEST I've encountered in my life.

MicroImage, it's just NOT my store to shop in. I'm not going to go into the details of my preferences in life about products i choose to own or what my experience has been with some and where it'd lead me to....

And the forum, my experience, when a forum expands or caters to a variety of same categories, it becomes hell, no matter how heavily you mod throughout the day/night. It will happen as time goes on, when more come and join in. But just not yet.

[2006fronty]

@Kioshi: ChinoCharles deleted the DIY threads himself. There's nothing we can do about that. Sad, but true.

Deleting the DIY's is bullshit. I totally understand why people would want to leave here with whats going on, but deleting the DIY's so NO ONE can access them is fucked up. Thanks for nothing dickhead (ChinoCharles not tk421)

[PETERPOOP]

Deleting the DIY's is bullshit. I totally understand why people would want to leave here with whats going on, but deleting the DIY's so NO ONE can access them is fucked up. Thanks for nothing dickhead (ChinoCharles not tk421)

It's childish, but I for one am not surprised. His best bud Tamago did the same thing when he was banned for the 3rd of 4th time ( lost count). He removed his wheel spec guide thingy and left a message in place of it saying, "YW you guys will be sorry you did that. You don't know what kind of knowledgeable person blah blah mumbo jumbo cry cry..." lmao.

I wouldn't expect nothing less from either of them.

[2006fronty]

It's childish, but I for one am not surprised. His best bud Tamago did the same thing when he was banned for the 3rd of 4th time ( lost count). He removed his wheel spec guide thingy and left a message in place of it saying, "YW you guys will be sorry you did that. You don't know what kind of knowledgeable person blah blah mumbo jumbo cry cry..." lmao.

I wouldn't expect nothing less from either of them.

I think Tamago just likes to give people a hard time, let's face it the dude is pretty knowledgeable and IMO is an asset to our community. I've seen a few hissy fits from EmoCharles.....er I mean ChinoCharles

[PETERPOOP]

lol. It's people like you that let him slide at being an asshole because of the fact he is knowledgeable. His best friend chino was great at that.

I'm sure tamago wishes he had a third arm to pat himself on the back while he responds to threads.

PETERPOOP FOR MODERATOR 2009!

hahaha. no thanks

[2006fronty]

lol. It's people like you that let him slide at being an asshole because of the fact he is knowledgeable. His best friend chino was great at that.

I'm sure tamago wishes he had a third arm to pat himself on the back while he responds to threads.


Haha, I try to avoid forum politics. I'm here for the info.

[Tamago]

what happened to taking it to PM's lol

[1stToyota]

I think Tamago just likes to give people a hard time, let's face it the dude is pretty knowledgeable and IMO is an asset to our community. I've seen a few hissy fits from EmoCharles.....er I mean ChinoCharles

I was in the middle of a real nice one...Chino got all over me about whether our MAF meter needing cleaning or not, claiming that ours didn't because it had no wires to get dirty, said ours measured flow with light and mirror(s)--OBD 1 design :rolleyes:--big hissy fit, thread closed...short time later I found Chino giving advice to a member to clean his MAF meter because that might be the source of his performance problem (ooops) :redface:

[nsmitchell]

So I stop posting for a couple of months and yall ban the moderators?! Great! Just kidding. I am a little stunned to see the ole regulars gone though.

[Ferret_san]

wow.... like, wow. <sigh>
I've been away for a while, not really personal choice, but to come back to this.

The hack was, terrible.
The lack of foresight on backups, unforgivable.
The enthusiasm of the then mods rallying the YW community, unforgettable.
Act of DIY's sabotage, shameful.

Sabretooth, I'm with you 95% on your comments.
Current mods, hope you realise what you've bitten off.

Thomas, Echo and probably a few others whom only now swing past
anonymously, thanks for your genuine enthusiasm, humor and advice.



The king is dead, long live the king.


<shakes head>

[Kioshi]

ferret san, glad to see you back, pleasssssssssse STAY. We could probably use your help with Lewis's OZ cluster coming in soon...

[jclo3313]

wow.... like, wow. <sigh>
I've been away for a while, not really personal choice, but to come back to this.

The hack was, terrible.
The lack of foresight on backups, unforgivable.
The enthusiasm of the then mods rallying the YW community, unforgettable.
Act of DIY's sabotage, shameful.

Sabretooth, I'm with you 95% on your comments.
Current mods, hope you realise what you've bitten off.

Thomas, Echo and probably a few others whom only now swing past
anonymously, thanks for your genuine enthusiasm, humor and advice.



The king is dead, long live the king.


<shakes head>

All we can do is try to do is move forward and create a friendlier more fun environment for everyone. The past is the past, lets move on to better days ahead.:thumbsup:

[ern-diz]

not taking anything away from the current, new mods however; i think it goes w/o saying that there are other yw members that have been around longer and are more yaris knowledgable that could have been promoted in place of those demoted...

[jclo3313]

True enough, but as that was not the case we should look to the future and see where it takes us.

[tomato]

not taking anything away from the current, new mods however; i think it goes w/o saying that there are other yw members that have been around longer and are more yaris knowledgable that could have been promoted in place of those demoted...

I'm sure you're right, but it doesn't take a car expert to delete spam threads. :iono:

People come and go, you never know what might happen in the future.

[Lafiro]

Mod's should be those who can actively change a website, edit bad posts, fix problems, and take out spammers.

Mod's should not be "knowledgeable" people in my opinion. What would be the point to give the ones that know most, a bigger ego?

Never seen a website run right, by only promoting those who know everything. Those people can not always do the best job. (this is not a graphics design website or a game website so can't compare it to that_

[tomato]

Mod's should be those who can actively change a website, edit bad posts, fix problems, and take out spammers.

Mod's should not be "knowledgeable" people in my opinion. What would be the point to give the ones that know most, a bigger ego?



Lafiro, you just put your finger on it. :clap:

Not that it isn't an honor, but it's also a job.

We can't exactly "actively change the site" though, and I believe that limitation was the source of the frustration for guys like Thomas for instance, who did love the site and put a lot of effort into it but felt their hands were tied. :iono:

[127.0.0.1]

Haha, I try to avoid forum politics. I'm here for the info.

har...me too.


But I am also sort of jerky and snide.... and that may cause trouble to sensitive pillow biters on some forums....

[ern-diz]

Mod's should be those who can actively change a website, edit bad posts, fix problems, and take out spammers.

Mod's should not be "knowledgeable" people in my opinion. What would be the point to give the ones that know most, a bigger ego?

Never seen a website run right, by only promoting those who know everything. Those people can not always do the best job. (this is not a graphics design website or a game website so can't compare it to that_

1st, i did say i wouldn't take anything away from the new/current mods so, there is no need to infer that i feel they are not qualified to do the job...

2nd, because it is a job, i feel like those that have been around a bit longer deserve the opportunity first, if interested...obviously, someone who has been here longer has more experience related to pre-hack info and about the forums overall...experience goes a long way...

3rd, regardless of wether or not u agree with the idea of mods being yaris knowledgable, (which i still feel is important simply because it lends itself to being able to answer questions more effectively) this has nothing to do with egos because anyone can catch an ego...knowledgable or not...

at the end of the day, i show full support to the current mods but, still feel as i do about the above...

[Lafiro]

Oh, don't take what I said in a bad way, I have nothing against any mod's previous or current.

I still see them the same as other posters.

I just wouldnt want to see any more knowledgeable mods remove a post, even mine like before, without any concent, knowledge, or discussion first.

Thats the only problem I have with people having too much power.

[ern-diz]

i too can agree with that...

[Tamago]

still beating the dead horse are we?

[Shroomster]

NEIGH ...you know the sound a horse makes.....

[Altitude]

This thread should probably be closed.

[tomato]

I agree. If anyone has anything to say, speak now or forever hold your peace :wink:


....
Going once...
Going twice....
Nobody? OK, here goes.

[Lafiro]

I have spoken!
lol case closed

[tomato]

Sold to the gentleman in the back! lol

Alternative thread:

bitch, rant, rant complain

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10948&highlight=bitch+rant+complain

:wink:

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