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Twistoffate0817
09-10-2009, 08:29 PM
Is there any package out there from toyota offering an upgrade in the sound system for the yaris?

Can they put the pioneer system in my yaris from the scion models?

The speakers and sound system in my yaris is just horrible! I NEED an upgrade and need more speakers.

talnlnky
09-10-2009, 09:45 PM
waste of money, the "premium" sound systems from car companies aren't very good, regardless of car manufacturer. You're better off just spending that $1k you'd spend at an audio store and have them install 1 set of 6.5 components up front, plus a 75x4 rms amp, plus a 10" sub.

puetato89
09-10-2009, 11:46 PM
or buy the speakers and put it in yourself not very, hard 2 do

doginmyyaris
09-13-2009, 12:15 AM
When I went to pick up my new Yaris at the dealer, they had intalled a stereo after I'd told them I didn't want one.

"We'll let you have it at "cost", they said. "Just $300."

I actually laughed! "Take it out!"

DOMAV
09-13-2009, 03:51 AM
waste of money, the "premium" sound systems from car companies aren't very good, regardless of car manufacturer. You're better off just spending that $1k you'd spend at an audio store and have them install 1 set of 6.5 components up front, plus a 75x4 rms amp, plus a 10" sub.

hi i don't say all manufacturs, i have an alfa 156 with uprated sound system from bose and belive me it one of the best sound systems i ever had.

with the sound in my yaris its nothing special but its ok for me

cheers

Bob Dog
09-13-2009, 06:44 AM
Drop a hundred decent 6.5 speakers and you will have a better sounding system tham you can buy from Toyota for the Yaris. Installing them is easy plug and play.

IsLNdbOi
09-13-2009, 06:52 AM
The stock speakers in my 5-door '09 sound better than the Kappa component speakers I put in my '07.

Bob Dog
09-13-2009, 06:58 AM
Perhaps what you need is some new ears

IsLNdbOi
09-13-2009, 07:01 AM
No. My ears are fine. The Kappas sounded too metallic / tinny.

Also, it's "are new ears", not "is new ears".

ryota
09-13-2009, 08:53 AM
ok so im not a audiophile like some people on here but i fail to grasp why you would need a stronger sound system in the Yaris especially in the HB. i have only 2 speakers in mine and i feel sometimes that it is too loud. anyone share my opinion? btw im not saying that it is useless i just have trouble imagining anything stronger in such a small space

i decided to upgrade mine because i'm a windows down kind of guy and at highway speed i could hardly hear the music without feeling like i'm going to blow the speakers... and why not get better quality out of it too. the difference is like night and day now with all of the instruments that were muffled away with the old speakers.

i agree with the other guys and say do it yourself. it took me all weekend to get mine working but i'm also an idiot. had a friend come over and within an afternoon had everything playing music nicely :headbang:

Bob Dog
09-13-2009, 09:10 AM
P198105:Its not just about loudness, it about the quality of the sound. The ability to hear nuance in the music, like being able to pick out a vocal from the music, or hear a guitar solo. In elctronic music you can hear everysynthetic note, as opposed to a blur of electronicic sound It is also about being able to kick up the base for a more driving beat without having the speakers distort.

IsLNdbOi: I think you are right about your little grammar correction. It is a reverse sentence structure. Ears is ( in this case the word ears, not the thing ears, and therefore is is the correct verb in this situation)the subject of the sentence. Plurality of the verb follows follows the subject, not the object.

Sorry about your poor choice of speakers. My $125 worth of carefully chosen 4 way and 5 way Pioneer speakers kick top of the line OEM butt, 07 or 09, both in clarity and in production of loud undistorted sound.

sqcomp
09-14-2009, 05:39 AM
...this is my arena...

The mini insults should be recognized especially when referring to factory systems.

Sorry, Bose (blows) is NOT good sound. I've ripped enough of those POS systems out of high end vehicles after listening to them and understanding exactly why the owner wanted more.

Aside from the obvious, nuances are the ability to hear the artist breathe, the fingers on the strings of a guitar, to the ambiance of a medium sized recording studio...

You people need to hear the track "These Bones" from the Fairfield Four on an IASCA competition system sometime. You can close your eyes, hear the bass smack dab in the center of the soundstage as the track starts. You can actually hear him articulate the words and the movement of his mouth as the songs go along. After he starts the track about five seconds into it, the rest of the "four" come in two on each side of him. Yes I know that makes five...the rest of the group expand the soundstage like I've never heard before.

It's a stunning track...truly.

The group should sound immense, like they fill the soundstage past each a-pillar. They should be deep ON or slightly above the dash even going to out to the hood of the vehicle.

I could write so much more about the track in particular but I say raspberries to the people who think Bose is even a good soundsystem. The speaker location is poorly planned, the speakers themselves are poor quality, the amplifiers are poor to average quality...

Give me a month or two after I get out of this dustbowl, you'll see pictures, and I'll invite you to take a seat in the Yaris. Even just sitting in it...it is now quieter than an AMG Merc and I still have more deadening to do. The speaker placement will be ideal for a Yaris sedan and the signal chain will be worked over very well.

DO NOT take this as smug or snotty, it isn't mean to be that way. Bose just sucks.

talnlnky
09-14-2009, 12:44 PM
hi i don't say all manufacturs, i have an alfa 156 with uprated sound system from bose and belive me it one of the best sound systems i ever had.

with the sound in my yaris its nothing special but its ok for me

cheers

Bose is utter crap... Some of the most cheaply made speakers ever produced. They have a hell of a marketing team tho, better than Nike, big tabacco, or any other company in history.

Sorry, I don't believe you, and yes, I've heard many bose speakers in my time, including in cars... Bose blows... no matter where or what it is.

EDIT:
I totally believe one pair of speakers up front is enough. Actually even one speaker would be enough.... but the fact remains, the factory is good for talk radio... and mediocre at even radio music. Upgrading should be mostly for better quality, not for volume, tho, throw an aftermarket amp on the new speakers and you should be able to get louder too... even with just two speakers.

puetato89
09-14-2009, 12:56 PM
infinity is awesome though, can we all agree on that??

talnlnky
09-14-2009, 06:26 PM
infinity is awesome though, can we all agree on that??

decent :biggrin: No really, as far as popular and easily accessible brands out there.... Infinity Probably is one of the better ones. But companies like Quart & Focal are almost as accessible.

sqcomp
09-15-2009, 01:25 AM
Damn Taln...you're chanelling my thoughts from halfway across the world!

To add, Focal's access line (being the brand's entry level) is just fine for a factory upgrade. I remember 6 years ago at a Car Toys event, auditioning the Focal demo car. All it had was access components. They were playing Popsicle Toes by Diana Krall. Great sound. The build was too showy for me but still, it sounded great.

Oh hey Taln, I'what do you think about this 25mm beauty?

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/2007%20Toyota%20Yaris%20S/L1ProSE1.jpg

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/2007%20Toyota%20Yaris%20S/L1ProSE3.jpg

talnlnky
09-15-2009, 12:48 PM
I think a response sheet with on axis, and off axis measurements would be nice to see... hehehe (i'm at work right now, and my monitor blows - its really dark, i'll take a look at home... if I can find an open wifi network).

zestia
09-15-2009, 01:20 PM
I agree, you should NEVER get the premium sound upgrade from the dealer. Its a total waste of money. You can go to a local stereo store (not a chain) and get the same quality for alot cheaper. Or better yet, buy higher quality stuff and install it yourself. You get the stereo upgrade and the satisfaction that you did it yourself

yaris 2sz
09-15-2009, 01:51 PM
here, in europe toyota has the jbl premium sound
http://newata.toyota-europe.com/ata/accessory/search/quickSearch.do

Main PartNumber: PZ490-B0230-00

sqcomp
09-15-2009, 03:08 PM
Scott has each pair hand matched. The L4s and L8s that were just shipped to the shop are hand matched and given birth sheets...and are a special signature edition. The L1 Pros I have here in Iraq don't have birth sheets...I do have a death sheet for anyone who comes near them without my permission though. I have a nice 30 rounds for that purpose, every other one is a tracer.

-You think I'm not serious either?-

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/CIMG0681.jpg


Machined billet aluminum housing, damped rear chamber 25mm tweeters. They've been VERY successful on the competition circuit. Notice the knurled ring on the right side tweeter, it screws off for mounting behind the substrate baffle...very nice for installation. Much more unique than the standard tweeter mounting everyone is used to seeing.

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/LegatiaL4SignatureEdition2.jpg

This is the chromed magnet of the 4.6" midrange just last night as the clearcoat was drying. Give me until April or May, when I get back out of this dusthole, more pictures will be up of the continuing build on the Yaris. A couple months after that, ANY Bose system ANY day of the week.

...My inspiration was the smacktalk from Spades on this forum. The insinuation that I didn't know what I was doing with car audio has driven me to some pretty creative heights. Wait 'till you catch a look at the finished product this next summer...for right now, I'm stuck in this hellish dusthole!

sqcomp
09-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Taln,

Here is some information from Scott Buwalda himself:

"Here are parameters:

Revc = 2.9 ohm
Qms = 2.344
Qes = 1.607
Qts = 0.953
Krm = 14.31 u Ohm
Erm = 0.882
Kxm = 12.57 mH
Exm = 0.314
Fs = 595 Hz
Frequency response = Fo - 30,000 Hz +/- 4 dB
Recommended crossover frequency = >1,600 Hz at 24 dB/octave (conservative)
Pnom = 25 watts (AES Standard, no crossover)
Pmax = 50 watts (AES Standard, no crossover)
Pmax (with recommended minimum crososver) = 100 watts
SPL = 91.5 dB at 1 watt/ 1 meter


This will be a limited edition offering. The drivers will come individually matched with a hand-signed certificate of authenticity and hand-matching. The L1 Pro SE will be available in both black anodized and brushed aluminum, both with copper ring radiator phase plug, and the copper bezel at the face of the tweeter.

Frequency repsonse graphs will be forthcoming within the next few weeks upon completion of final production and testing."

kudzu71
09-16-2009, 01:24 PM
I just put a Pioneer AVIC-U310BT in my hatchback and I was amazed at the difference in the sound quality coming from my stock speakers. I am hearing things in songs that I've never heard before. Speakers will be my next upgrade. I figure if the stock set sounds this good, a good set of Infinitys will sound amazing, plus I want to add some tweeters.