AFE drop in filter

[Walter]

Picked up a AFE air filter last week and its a great mod on a budget. If youre not into having an intake or just cant afford to buy the whole shebang, or even if you need to replace your paper filter, I highly recommend this. You dont have to oil it, K&N quality and results, and you can get one from Garm @ Micro Image. My paper filter was very dirty; but now my car feels more responsive, gets better gas milage, and you can hear it sucking air in (without it being overbearing).
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Waltdeezie/afe.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Waltdeezie/afe2.jpg

[Kaotic Lazagna]

How much was that? I can't seem to find it on MI.

[CB900F2]

Looks like a quality product.. Would you consider doing a UOA to check the silicon level?

[supmet]

but now my car feels more responsive,

EVERY mod FEELS better after you do it. That's just because there are less bills in your wallet between your butt and the road...

gets better gas milage,

sweet! I take it you already did same trip testing before and after?

and you can hear it sucking air in (without it being overbearing).

and you only have to have the hood and window open to hear it!!! (or a hole in your firewall)(please post videos if I'm wrong)



seriously though, its a good product, and it might replace my K&N just so I don't have to deal with the oil recharge kits, but lets keep it real.

[Walter]

Why are you following me around bashing my posts? Ive been building cars for 13 years, and had a couple featured in magazines. I think I can tell the difference. I stated before that my paper filter was dirty, if you have even a little bit of connection with your vehicle even changing it to a stock clean filter would make a slight difference.

[supmet]

Why are you following me around bashing my posts? Ive been building cars for 13 years, and had a couple featured in magazines. I think I can tell the difference. I stated before that my paper filter was dirty, if you have even a little bit of connection with your vehicle even changing it to a stock clean filter would make a slight difference.

because I WUB YOU :wub:

I'm not bashing your posts, I'm just asking questions... I even said your VW was a good price... I DO bash, and will continue to, every unscientific theory posted as fact. Maybe if you can't handle the same person replying to two of your posts, the internet isn't the right place for you.

[jonismyname]

you need to poke some holes in the air box, then you'll hear something! or at least remove the silencer tube snorkel thing.

i didn't realize microimage carried it, thanks for posting.

[rockrabbit]

You dont have to oil it, K&N quality

Walter,

curious, when you say you do not have to oil it, how does it differ from K&N when cleaning it? :confused:

Thanks

[posaunemeister]

Walter,

curious, when you say you do not have to oil it, how does it differ from K&N when cleaning it? :confused:

Thanks


I've been wondering that myself. Can you just vacuum the filter or do you have to wash it, too? I have the K&N drop-in filter and I'm pretty satisfied with it. I could tell that I'd have at least a 30% improved flow just by looking at the K&N drop-in filter, and that was before the install. It's pretty simple to use... no dismantling of anything -- just replacing. And there's less intake noise, which can start to sound a little annoying/whiny when coming from such a small engine.

[kargoboy]

You should wash the filter completely and let it air dry. The Simota drop-in is virtually identical to the one pictured above and you can run them dry or oiled.
If you do use oil, it must be used sparingly.

[GnomeBody]

my car feels more responsive

Im running a drop in K&N filter in one of my yaris and the stock filter in the other and there is no doubt in my mind that a better breathing filter improves the throttle response, not sure about the mpg tho...

[PETERPOOP]

EVERY mod FEELS better after you do it. That's just because there are less bills in your wallet between your butt and the road...



sweet! I take it you already did same trip testing before and after?



and you only have to have the hood and window open to hear it!!! (or a hole in your firewall)(please post videos if I'm wrong)



seriously though, its a good product, and it might replace my K&N just so I don't have to deal with the oil recharge kits, but lets keep it real.

From your recent posts, you seem to be the a**hole of the forums.

[markitect]

because I WUB YOU :wub:
I DO bash, and will continue to, every unscientific theory posted as fact.

So are you gonna pay for dyno time that will cost at least 3 times what the mod costs?

[supmet]

From your recent posts, you seem to be the a**hole of the forums.

Hmmmm, and which one of us has been banned before?? Weird, huh.

If you guys have something to back your claims up and prove me wrong, by all means, post away and prove I'm an asshole. People make the same claims - sounds better, feels more responsive, and gets better gas mileage from using 91 fuel. I don't see you defending them when people tell them they are full of it.

So are you gonna pay for dyno time that will cost at least 3 times what the mod costs?

Is a dyno going to measure responsiveness, mpg, or volume?

[cali yaris]

I'll be putting the product up today, it is in stock. Very nice filter for those that don't want to upgrade the whole intake system.

[PETERPOOP]

Hmmmm, and which one of us has been banned before?? Weird, huh.



I have. You know why? It was for calling someone out when they were being an asshole to other members ( Tamago ).

And you sir, are an asshole. FACT.

[supmet]

I have. You know why? It was for calling someone out when they were being an asshole to other members ( Tamago ).

And you sir, are an asshole. FACT.

Like I said, if I'm wrong, post some numbers. Anything. Hell you can even make up some numbers like half the hypermilers here to support your better MPG claim.

You may not like me, but if one more consumer is informed(or un-misinformed as the case has been lately) at the end of the day, my job is done.

[PETERPOOP]

Like I said, if I'm wrong, post some numbers.

If you are right, post some numbers. Your claim of them not having gains has no validity as much as them claiming they do have gains. So for you to say they are wrong, and that they need to show numbers to prove they are right, is just as stupid as your say their claims are. Technically, the guy who installed the filter in HIS own car, that HE drives, should have more validity to his statement, opposed to yours. Until YOU can prove your claims with numbers, you will continue to be looked at as an ass.

[supmet]

If you are right, post some numbers. Your claim of them not having gains has no validity as much as them claiming they do have gains. So for you to say they are wrong, and that they need to show numbers to prove they are right, is just as stupid as your say their claims are. Technically, the guy who installed the filter in HIS own car, that HE drives, should have more validity to his statement, opposed to yours. Until YOU can prove your claims with numbers, you will continue to be looked at as an ass.

lol... AFE doesn't claim MPG increases. Neither does K&N.

I bought a chip on ebay and my yaris now has 200 horsepower... You have to prove this wrong or I am right... :rolleyes:

[PETERPOOP]

Prove it wrong. Post numbers.

[GnomeBody]

So let me get this straight supmet... your telling me that a less restrictive air filter Is going to have No effect on throttle response or MPG over the stock one?:rolleyes:

[supmet]

So let me get this straight supmet... your telling me that a less restrictive air filter Is going to have No effect on throttle response or MPG over the stock one?:rolleyes:

http://www.metrompg.com/posts/air-filter-part-1.htm
http://www.metrompg.com/posts/air-filter-part-2.htm

"Once again, there's no practical difference between the paper and K&N filter - the difference between their averages (.50 km/gal) is smaller than the variation within the set of averaged K&N runs (.65 km/gal). This time, even the one-off "No filter" run landed in the middle of the results."

[cali yaris]

^ from your link:

it's important to note that this test says nothing about the relative performance of filter types at wider throttle openings. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that at wide open throttle (WOT), the K&N filter would probably deliver more air (and therefore better efficiency due to decreased pumping losses) than OEM paper.

[supmet]

^ from your link:

It could be true. It might have better responsiveness, I was just asking for some kind of proof since every mod has a well known placebo affect. The mpg thing has been proven time and time again on the internet, though.

I'm gonna let this one die. Its a good product and Garm is a good vendor. Just don't expect things the manufacturer doesn't even claim will happen.

[2006fronty]

I got one of these about 3 months ago. It sounds a little better but I haven't noticed any MPG improvement. I bought it because of the fact that it's washable and will save me money in the long run, plus I don't have to worry about filter oil supposedly messing with my MAF sensor.

[2009BBPliftback]

I just picked up one of these. Good price and I think I'm getting a little old for that huge intake Honk on a daily basis.. and its alot cheaper than the whole intake system.

[Billiam]

I just picked up one of these. Good price and I think I'm getting a little old for that huge intake Honk on a daily basis.. and its alot cheaper than the whole intake system.

I want one of these for my '10 5-Door. I assume there's been no change between the '09 and the '10 air box...right?

When I go to the AFE website it shows part # 30-10150. Is this right? It lists it as a "Scion xD 1.8L" filter. Maybe they use the same filter? Anyone know?

EDIT: I just crossed referenced the K&N filter #'s and they show the same part # for the Yaris and xD. So I'll assume that the AFE's are shared as well. Somone can still chime in and verify though.

[cali yaris]

Yes it's a part common to both. In stock too. :thumbsup:

http://www.shop.microimageonline.com/AFE-drop-in-filter-30-10150.htm

http://www.shop.microimageonline.com/images/30-10150_400.jpg

[RedRide]

Whether you get the K&N or AFE, just get rid of the stock paper filter if you are retaining the stock air box. :smile:

[Billiam]

Wait...just realized this is not the Pro-Dry, but the oiled filter...right? Darn it...I want it in the dry version. AFE's site doesn't show a dry one though.

[cali yaris]

I'll have to check on that.

[kargoboy]

I'll have to check on that.

You can run it either way.

[cali yaris]

^ yeah but they appear to be two different part numbers. I'm betting the oiled one comes pre-oiled, which means you're kind of committed to it being that way. I think?

I actually think I have the 31-10150, the dry one in stock. I'll check at my shop.

[RedRide]

I have been runnnig K&N oiled filters for years without a single problem
I have to think that all the horror stories you hear about oiled filters stem fom useres who clean and then, over oil the fillter.

Fact is, it's really hard to over oil one if you can follow very simple directions and have a rudimentary semblance of common sense.:wink:

I'n sure the AFE filters are much the same.

[Billiam]

EDIT

[Billiam]

Never mind, I found it.

# 31-10150