Urgent! How to use auto transmission? [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

eTiMaGo

10-19-2006, 11:17 PM

wow, and here I thought all americans knew that :wink:

Anyway I'm not 100% surte on the yaris but you have several different positions for the gearshift:

P - Park - use this when you park the car, in addition to the normal handbrake
R - Reverse, self-explanatory
N - N neutral, just like on a manual
D - Drive, the normal automatic mode, put it in the gear, press the gas, and don't worry about anything else
3 and 2 - these limit the maximum gear that your gearbox will engage. For example, when going up a hill, you do not want the car to try to go into 4th, or it just won't have the power to climb, so you limit it to 3rd gear, or 2nd for extreme cases. These can also be used to force the gearbox to shift down when you are in 4th, and approaching a turn, like using the engine to brake on a manual transmission. Keep in mind there is usually a little bit of lag between moving the gear stick and the actual change, so think ahead. For a test drive, though, you should not have to worry about these :wink:

That's about it, there's nothing really specific to know about it, which is why it's so popular, who wants to use their brain while driving, right? :biggrin:

TrancosRt

10-19-2006, 11:17 PM

Basically put in in P to park it, R to go in Reverse, and D the rest of the way. You just press the gas to go or the brake when stopping/stop at a light. As easy as it gets...

hans_fh

10-20-2006, 12:51 AM

Thanks!

hasher22

10-20-2006, 01:00 AM

Yup thats y i drive an auto, its easy and lazy!!

tekmoe

10-20-2006, 01:08 AM

Yup thats y i drive an auto, its easy and lazy!!

and boring too! :bellyroll:

hans_fh

10-20-2006, 01:14 AM

and boring too! :bellyroll:

that's why I have driven manual transmission for years:)

hasher22

10-20-2006, 01:28 AM

Oh i wish i drove manual now...(sarcasm)

WarpSpeed

04-11-2010, 03:49 AM

I got a Yaris recently,and i've noticed the auto doesnt perform as well as the manual,for eg.normally lets say at so and so speed,a slight tap to the pedal will show a corrsponding jump in the car in response to the petrol give,but this car gives no response!i try tappin the pedal but the car continues at same spped as though i never tuched the acc pedal!
So i jut want to know when i can use the 3 gear from D.for eg when i'm at 100 kph and want to pass another car,can i shift to 3 and do the passin or will it damage the gearbox?or can i do tht only for speeds under 80,coz i did try shiftin to 3 at around 100kph and the car showed no difference.

Anyonecan help me here??

rningonfumes

04-11-2010, 04:44 AM

To Warpspeed: Yes.

For this thread:

Huh? No, really: Huh?

WarpSpeed

04-11-2010, 06:27 AM

Old chinese sayin:A man who asks is a fool for 5 sceconds but a man who doesnt ask is a fool forEver!
Gimme a break maan!

rningonfumes

04-11-2010, 11:21 AM

Haha, that wasn't towards you.

Shifting the Auto into a lower gear for more passing power is perfectly fine as long as you don't force the tranny to make up for big differences in speed. ie... asking the thing to drop to 2nd while you are still at 100kph.

...but I think the computer still has a dummy guard against someone who wants to drop gears into drastically lower gears. And to this I would ask if anyone wants to be the one with enough courage and/or large pocket book to try.

YAR1S

04-11-2010, 11:25 AM

lol The manual of any car will perform better than the automatic version......

rningonfumes

04-11-2010, 11:32 AM

hehe, of course but that wasn't his question.

Yariz

04-11-2010, 11:41 AM

wow, and here I thought all americans knew that :wink:

That's about it, there's nothing really specific to know about it, which is why it's so popular, who wants to use their brain while driving, right? :biggrin:

Please refrain from negative comments about Americans. Also FYI, in domestic an AT is usually better... Especially if you plan on saving money in the long run. No clutches to replace, and it lasts longer. Also (as in America) where drag racing is popular an AT can be a good choice with the right shift kit.

Thanks for not speaking of the US that way. Also I am from Texas, and we do not play around with our Country and State pride. It is almost a religion. So if you want to be reported keep it up.

Thanks,

Yariz

04-11-2010, 11:50 AM

lol The manual of any car will perform better than the automatic version......

Not really, it depends on the application... If you are running a domestic with heavy parts, and you are dragging a C6 3-Spd Transmission will shift better than any human with the right kit.

But on our car, and little ricers yeah i agree.

djct_watt

04-11-2010, 11:59 AM

Please refrain from negative comments about Americans. Also FYI, in domestic an AT is usually better... Especially if you plan on saving money in the long run. No clutches to replace, and it lasts longer. Also (as in America) where drag racing is popular an AT can be a good choice with the right shift kit.

Thanks for not speaking of the US that way. Also I am from Texas, and we do not play around with our Country and State pride. It is almost a religion. So if you want to be reported keep it up.

Thanks,

Ummm, coming from an American (who lives abroad), how was his comment offensive in the least? I think you're being just a touch sensitive there buddy.

Being that the overwhelming majority of cars sold in America are automatics, and that the vast majority of people have no idea how to drive manuals, it's a reasonable assumption (and not judgemental) that every would know how to drive automatics. If anything, it is a COMPLIMENT assuming that everyone would know. Assuming that Americans are ignorant would be judgemental, and thus negative. So you're saying you'd rather have him say that he thought most Americans DIDN'T know how to drive automatic?

Also, "better" is a subjective word. In the long run, depending on if you know how to properly drive a manual transmission, it can last just as long as an auto. And the good thing is that repairs are LESS costly on a manual than an auto. Sure there is no clutch to replace on an auto, but try swapping out a planetary gearset and then get back to me. Overhauling a manual is far easier than an auto. Also, the initial cost of a manual is less, and you also get a fuel savings. Whatever is "better" depends on what your particular needs are; both options are perfectly fine.

Yariz

04-11-2010, 12:03 PM

Ummm, coming from an American (who lives abroad), how was his comment offensive in the least? I think you're being just a touch sensitive there buddy.

Being that the overwhelming majority of cars sold in America are automatics, and that the vast majority of people have no idea how to drive manuals, it's a reasonable assumption (and not judgemental) that every would know how to drive automatics. If anything, it is a COMPLIMENT assuming that everyone would know. Assuming that Americans are ignorant would be judgemental, and thus negative. So you're saying you'd rather have him say that he thought most Americans DIDN'T know how to drive automatic?

Also, "better" is a subjective word. In the long run, depending on if you know how to properly drive a manual transmission, it can last just as long as an auto. And the good thing is that repairs are LESS costly on a manual than an auto. Sure there is no clutch to replace on an auto, but try swapping out a planetary gearset and then get back to me. Overhauling a manual is far easier than an auto. Also, the initial cost of a manual is less, and you also get a fuel savings. Whatever is "better" depends on what your particular needs are; both options are perfectly fine.

Good to see you have an opinion, just an fyi I am not gonna read it, lots of words and stuff IDC about. But I just should let you know I only mentioned it b/c I have seen it in other places on forums with foreign cars. And I am not going to argue tranny stuff with a stranger. I had the original tranny in my car longer than most people in here have had one...:wink:

djct_watt

04-11-2010, 12:08 PM

Not really, it depends on the application... If you are running a domestic with heavy parts, and you are dragging a C6 3-Spd Transmission will shift better than any human with the right kit.

But on our car, and little ricers yeah i agree.

Uh. . . what percentage of cars on the road NOW (today, and not in fantasy land) produce enough torque to even be driveable with a C6 3spd??? We're talking about normal day to day drive to work cars, not drag racers! Are you really telling me you drive your 1000hp nitro-meth funnycar racer to the local store?

Most cars with a V6/I4 option sell the lower displacement motor in FAR GREATER numbers. If anything, the C6 would make MOST cars less efficient and undriveable.

djct_watt

04-11-2010, 12:12 PM

Good to see you have an opinion, just an fyi I am not gonna read it, lots of words and stuff IDC about. But I just should let you know I only mentioned it b/c I have seen it in other places on forums with foreign cars. And I am not going to argue tranny stuff with a stranger. I had the original tranny in my car longer than most people in here have had one...:wink:

As an American, I find it offensive that people are easy to offend because they are American. Furthermore, I find that refusing to read contradictory ideas to be harmful to our image as Americans. If anything, you're just furthering the stereotype that Americans think they are always right and refuse to listen. I agreed with you in my post that both transmissions are good. I didn't exactly say that automatics were bad. If you are really so concerned about the image of "American," it's best to lead by example.
[/threadjack]

tomato

04-11-2010, 02:01 PM

Good to see you have an opinion, just an fyi I am not gonna read it, lots of words and stuff IDC about. But I just should let you know I only mentioned it b/c I have seen it in other places on forums with foreign cars. And I am not going to argue tranny stuff with a stranger. I had the original tranny in my car longer than most people in here have had one...:wink:

OK, I think this may be a good time for me to throw in my opinion here:biggrin::biggrin:

Everybody takes a deeeeeeeeeeeeep breath here.

Vehicles with automatic transmissions are prevalent in this country, like it or not, and vehicle with manual transmissions are much harder to find (and getting increasingly harder to find) That's no secret. :iono:

By contrast, in Europe or other countries in the world, MT still prevail.

I think that's all he was trying to say. "I thought Americans drive Automatic trannies" means only that, don't read into it :smile:

back on topic :smile: :smile:

bronsin

04-11-2010, 04:47 PM

Yariz

04-11-2010, 04:53 PM

I also am driving an auto for the first time in my 09 Yaris. Can anyone say why you push on the gas pedal and the car doesnt move...you push some more and it doesnt move...you push some more and VOOM it shoots forward?

You have less control over where the power band is on an AT, especially ours as we can't really mod it much (easily). So it is 'tuned' to a certain power band, and it will not feel as responsive on our cars, a MT is the way to go. Unfortunately, no one has come up with a good solution (that I have seen) for us AT guys. I did like a lot of people and bought this as a commuter, and realized how fun it is...and here we are...

yarrr

04-11-2010, 04:59 PM

^^ you can mod it easily with a throttle controller, but my AT drives just fine, and I get power whenever I want it.

Sounds like someone was "too easy" on the pedal, and it adjusted. Try disconnecting the battery for 15-30 minutes to reset the ECU learning.

Yariz

04-11-2010, 05:02 PM

Uh. . . what percentage of cars on the road NOW (today, and not in fantasy land) produce enough torque to even be driveable with a C6 3spd??? We're talking about normal day to day drive to work cars, not drag racers! Are you really telling me you drive your 1000hp nitro-meth funnycar racer to the local store?

Most cars with a V6/I4 option sell the lower displacement motor in FAR GREATER numbers. If anything, the C6 would make MOST cars less efficient and undriveable.

Actually yes, I am telling you that. In the USA V8's are a lot more common than the tuk-tuk's u guys have. It is needed because we (in my location) are very far apart and have to haul a lot of stuff. I have had several cars, and this is the first to not have a V8.(Yes I love V8's, and don't care about emissions). However I respect your opinion, and you are welcome to have it.

Tomato (and myself) are right. No need to argue over transmissions. As I said in the first post, it is all dependent on the application.

TTYL Guys, I am unsubscribing. I think the guy can figure out an AT now.

Altitude

04-11-2010, 05:22 PM

Please refrain from negative comments about Americans.

Thomas wasn't being negative. He is a long time and valued member of the community whose attitude and opinions are widely respected.

djct_watt

04-11-2010, 05:34 PM

Actually yes, I am telling you that. In the USA V8's are a lot more common than the tuk-tuk's u guys have. It is needed because we (in my location) are very far apart and have to haul a lot of stuff. I have had several cars, and this is the first to not have a V8.(Yes I love V8's, and don't care about emissions). However I respect your opinion, and you are welcome to have it.

Tomato (and myself) are right. No need to argue over transmissions. As I said in the first post, it is all dependent on the application.

TTYL Guys, I am unsubscribing. I think the guy can figure out an AT now.

I am an AMERICAN. I've lived in the USA all my life, I've only been in Thailand for less than one year. There are far less V8's in the US than you think; just look at recent auto sales. . . I'm so glad I'm not living there now. It seems people cannot understand that when someone says "I'm American," it means they are American, have lived there, and understand the difference between a tuk tuk and a V8. Maybe it's just a Texas thing? What was it? Vocabulatory Dictionaryation?

Mookie@TMMTX

04-11-2010, 07:05 PM

I purchased a manual for three reasons:

1 I have had some friends with older toyota's and the only issues they had was with the auto transmission

2 The manuel on paper gets better gas mileage

3 Greatly limits the amount of lame friends who want to barrow my car:thumbup:!!!!

I love it , just take my car!!! Oh yea you can't cuz you can not make it go!

Dadombomb15

04-11-2010, 09:11 PM

Actually yes, I am telling you that. In the USA V8's are a lot more common than the tuk-tuk's u guys have. It is needed because we (in my location) are very far apart and have to haul a lot of stuff.

V8's do not rule our auto world. As much as you would like to believe, it's just not true. How many US automakers have been shut down and scaled back? Do you know the reason for that? It's not financially feasible for the majority of our country to throw hundreds of dollars down the drain a month on gas. They use way too much gas with their big V8 SuperDiesels that get 10-12mpg. And Texas does not make up the United States either. You have to take into account that there are states outside of your definition of the US.

Kal-El

04-11-2010, 09:41 PM

No offense to the OP, but how is it possible to never have driven an auto?

You need to to pass your driver's test to get your license. I've never heard of a modern driving school or DMV that uses manuals for tests. Plus, you've never rented a car, borrowed a car, or anything?

We need more back story on your driving history just for curiosity's sake. I can't even imagine the plausibility of this.

I've driven thousands of cars (literally - I drive for a car dealer) and 98% are automatics.

A majority of models available in the US don't even have available MT's either.

MadMax

04-11-2010, 09:49 PM

Vehicles with automatic transmissions are prevalent in this country, like it or not, and vehicle with manual transmissions are much harder to find (and getting increasingly harder to find) That's no secret. :iono:

By contrast, in Europe or other countries in the world, MT still prevail.

Tomato my old friend, believe it or not, automatics are becoming much more common in smaller European cars as well!

And there is nothing wrong with the Yaris auto! It makes for easier city driving, and you can shift the transmission if you want (I do it all the time).

The bottom line is that it is personal preference which type of transmission people prefer. I used to want manual transmissions, but now prefer autos and have them in all three of my vehicles. If I really want performance and the ability to shift, I take out one of my motorcycles...

http://www.freefever.com/animatedgifs/animated/motorcycle.gif

kustom play

04-11-2010, 10:27 PM

I am an AMERICAN. I've lived in the USA all my life, I've only been in Thailand for less than one year. There are far less V8's in the US than you think; just look at recent auto sales. . . I'm so glad I'm not living there now. It seems people cannot understand that when someone says "I'm American," it means they are American, have lived there, and understand the difference between a tuk tuk and a V8. Maybe it's just a Texas thing? What was it? Vocabulatory Dictionaryation?

yea I agree, this dude seems like he is stuck in the 60's

He then cant take a joke from one of our longest members on the forum

this noob is going to be a real winner :thumbup:

djct_watt

04-12-2010, 01:57 AM

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame me can't shame me shame again. Shame.

tomato

04-12-2010, 02:38 AM

Tomato my old friend, believe it or not, automatics are becoming much more common in smaller European cars as well!

And there is nothing wrong with the Yaris auto! It makes for easier city driving, and you can shift the transmission if you want (I do it all the time).
...

Oh, I know. Still, it's not as common as MT's. Just give them a few years, they'll catch up. :wink:

And I agree with the auto being preferable in some situations. I actually almost regretted not getting an auto because it's so much easier up the hills, especially in traffic. I've been driving MT for so long, though, when I rent a car, it feels odd.

No offense to the OP, but how is it possible to never have driven an auto?

I was wondering the same thing. :iono:

IsLNdbOi

04-12-2010, 07:33 AM

I wish I knew how to drive manual. I was going to get a manual Yaris as my first manual car, but I've had a couple of emergencies where someone has had to drive and none of the people around that could drive, knew how to drive a manual.

eht13

04-12-2010, 10:49 AM

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame me can't shame me shame again. Shame.

:laugh:

Altitude

04-12-2010, 10:59 AM

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame me can't shame me shame again. Shame.

Lol. GW is that you?

Yaris Hilton

04-12-2010, 01:25 PM

tomato

04-12-2010, 02:19 PM

QuantumIguana

04-12-2010, 03:17 PM

My first two cars had manual transmissions - a 73 Celica and an 87 Chevy Sprint. It seems to me that each car's manual transmission is a learning curve of its own. After a while, you hardly have to think about it, but it can be rough until you get a feel for that model.

I've driven an automatic since 95, a 94 Lebaron convertible, a 91 Civic, and now the 08 Yaris. I suppose I could have re-learned the stick shift, but I've gotten out of the habit. I do think quite a bit while driving, just not about what gear to be in.

sbergman27

04-12-2010, 03:31 PM

Ummm, coming from an American (who lives abroad), how was his comment offensive in the least?
Speaking as an American who lives in Oklahoma... Americans tend to be very thin-skinned when it comes to constructive criticism, even presented jokingly. We're The Greatest and Most Free Nation that has ever existed on This Earth, and most anyone who lives within 300 miles of me would be happy to confirm the fact. God particularly approves of us. And anyone who doesn't agree is probably Gay or Communist anyway.

That said, I love the 5 speed manual in my Chevy Sprint for the 54 mpg it gets me on the highway. I love the automatic in my 2008 Yaris because it's just so damned convenient. Similarly, I love the fact that I've removed the air conditioning components (except for the evaporator coil) from the Sprint (replacing it with 52% heat rejection window tint) because it gets me probably an extra 0.5 - 1.0 MPG on the highway. (There are aerodynamic benefits beyond the 4% weight savings.) And I love the A/C on the Yaris because it keeps me cool when I really want to be cool.

Most everything in life involves trade-offs. If it didn't, we wouldn't need brains any more evolved than the nervous systems of jellyfish. Earlier today, I picked up my cat from the vet where she gets boarded while I'm away. I took the Sprint, which has vinyl seats. As I contended with her stubborn insistence upon riding on my lap as we drove home, I wished that the Sprint had an automatic. I could have taken the Yaris. But then she'd have jumped in the back and clawed the back seat to shreds before I could get home. Such is life.

-Steve

tomato

04-12-2010, 04:04 PM

Speaking as an American who lives in Oklahoma... Americans tend to be very thin-skinned when it comes to constructive criticism, even presented jokingly. We're The Greatest and Most Free Nation that has ever existed on This Earth, and most anyone who lives within 300 miles of me would be happy to confirm the fact. God particularly approves of us. And anyone who doesn't agree is probably Gay or Communist anyway.

:bellyroll::bellyroll::clap:

... or French :wink:

sbergman27

04-12-2010, 05:54 PM

hey, that's a really good reason to get an auto! I thought of that, too, but too late :iono:

My solution to that particular problem has been never to depend upon other people. That strategy probably shows up in my posts here.

People. People who need people. Seem to need other people... all their lives. (Apologies to Barbra Streisand.)

-Steve

Yaris Hilton

04-12-2010, 05:55 PM

That's all the same, anyway.

127.0.0.1

04-12-2010, 07:40 PM

you need to put foot on brake to move lever from, or to, PARK

yarrr

04-12-2010, 07:58 PM

you need to put foot on brake to move lever from, or to, PARK

Nope, just from. And I think the best practice is to go N, e-brake up, foot off brake, shift to P. This lets the e-brake take all the pressure, instead of the parking pin. But what does that have to do with anything?

sbergman27

04-12-2010, 09:25 PM

...but I think the computer still has a dummy guard against someone who wants to drop gears into drastically lower gears.
Being used to a 5 speed manual, somewhat over-tired, and having gotten used to the Yaris' dummy-guards... I accidentally shifted into reverse at about 30 mph while negotiating a variable 2% - 6% grade. Nothing happened except that I almost crapped my pants when I realized.

Emboldened by this, I tried shifting into 1 at an excessive speed for it. It won't do it. Nothing happens. But if I then switch to 2... it takes several seconds for it to decide to kick back into 2nd gear.

-Steve

RedStickHam

04-12-2010, 10:27 PM

I learned on an automatic, my parents drove big GM cars(Buick, Cadillac), all auto of course. My first car(in 1985) was a 1977 Ford Thunderbird V8, also automatic. I learned to drives standard that same year when my brother and his wife were moving across country and stopped for a visit. They brought her 1971 VW Beetle 4spd. and my brother gave me a driving lesson in it and said I did well the first time.

Most people I knew had automatics, so many didn't learn to drive standard. When I've been car shopping, most new cars on the lots in my area are automatic. I got the 5spd Yaris because it was much cheaper, the dealers here had the automatic Yaris vehicles all fully loaded, and I didn't want to spend that much.

I like the better fuel economy, but I have to drive in bumper to bumper stop an go traffic to and from work, and all that shifting can get tiring at times, but still I love my Yaris.

There's nothing wrong with never having driven automatic, it's just a little unusual.

eTiMaGo

04-12-2010, 11:37 PM

wow I am looking back on this thread, sorry my innocent joke got this whole mess started...

it was just a joke, a humorous comment based on the perceived stereotype that the general american driving public had all but forgotten how to drive manual cars (you have heard of th car thief who got caught because he could not get the manual car that he had broken into, into gear?)

After the years of "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys" and whatnot (I am French, BTW), I think I am allowed a little gentle rib poking in return?

Anyway, no big deal, back to your regular programming :smile:

eTiMaGo

04-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Kal-El

04-13-2010, 12:03 AM

Read the first few posts again "I have driven manual for years"...

Plus, if I recall correctly, this guy had recently moved to the US from Europe

Well, driving a manual for years doesn't necessarily explain never touching an automatic.

But if he is indeed European, then yeah, that explains it. :smile:

tomato

04-13-2010, 12:08 AM

@ Etimago:
Oh boy, I had completely forgotten about the surrender monkeys ...
probably too busy choking on the freedom fries :rolleyes:
Hopefully, that's all behind us now (knocking on wood)

By the way did you see post #26 ?
Thomas wasn't being negative. He is a long time and valued member of the community whose attitude and opinions are widely respected.

We don't tell you enough, so +1

(sorry about the off topic)

davidchagrin

04-15-2010, 12:06 PM

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame me can't shame me shame again. Shame.

That's awesome.
I'm from Michigan.
For the record, Texas sucks.
:laugh:

127.0.0.1

04-15-2010, 12:57 PM

Nope, just from. And I think the best practice is to go N, e-brake up, foot off brake, shift to P. This lets the e-brake take all the pressure, instead of the parking pin. But what does that have to do with anything?

what does this entire thread have to do with anything ?

djct_watt

04-15-2010, 02:50 PM

absolutelagy nothingcationify

QuantumIguana

04-16-2010, 02:45 PM

That reminds me of an old joke. A guy goes into a car dealership to buy a car. They sell him one with an automatic transmission. He's used to a stick shift, but he gives it a try. The next day, the car is towed back to the dealership. The dealer asked him what was wrong with the car. He says "I put the car in 'L' for 'lay 'er down', and that worked out just fine. Then I put the car in 'D' for 'dig in', because I wanted some more speed. Then this sports car pulls up beside me, and I put it in 'R' for 'Race', and the car broke down!"

I don't think Americans are any more thin-skinned than anyone else, I've heard similar complaints from Europeans when it is their ox being gored.