Block heater

[R2D2]

Does anyone currently have a block heater on their Yaris? I'm seriously considering one. Do they make a noticable economy difference due to "warm up" time and does anyone know the Toyota part #/approximate price?

TIA

R2

[thebarber]

i have one as i used to live in new brunswick....so just north-east of you

huge difference in warm-up times, especially when its -20C and colder

well worth the $100-ish to get one w/ installation...(though i got mine thrown in when i bought the car in 07 in fredericton, nb)

[WolfWings]

And on a side-note, if your dealership or whatever can't find one for a Yaris, have them look up a Prius, at least up until model year 2009.

[R2D2]

Thanks guys-much appreciated!

R2

[the_boss]

I had the choice between mp3 radio or block heater when I bought the car...I should had bought the block heater....would had saved me a lot of cold butt days!

thanks god the wife (or ex wife?!) bought a remote starter!

[thebarber]

i had a block heater, mp3 HU, all season mats and window vent visors thrown in w/ purchase....

[the_boss]

ill shop more next time....! and even If I have to drive between Edmundston to Fredericton or Quebec City Ill do it!

[linny]

I put one in last winter for my '08 liftback. As I recall it cost thirty some bucks. It was a real pain to install for me. I had to take a couple bolts and brackets out to be able to slide the unit into the sleeve in the engine block.. Prob the worst part was not being able to see what you were doing laying on your back. Not pleasant. It did make a really big difference for starting and warm up--worth the pains and bloody knuckles:w00t:!

[R2D2]

Thanks all for the input. I ordered an oem block heater-part # 00213-00900 which is specificaly listed for 07-09 Yaris AUTO only which I thought was interesting. Not sure why it's auto only but it also fits the Prius, FJ Cruiser and quite a few other models. Hopefully I'll get it put in without too much trouble.

R2

[R2D2]

Just an update I installed the block heater today-it was a completely blind operation. I had to go completely by feel. Linny, you were right about getting scraped up!

The good news is I didn't have to remove a single item from the car to do the install (I have an auto). I did the install leaning over the engine compartment and didn't have to get on the ground except to secure the plug to the lower grill. I found I had to rotate the heater just right a couple of times to clear everything and get it all the way in. I think it is ingenious to have a purpose built heater port in the block-makes it nice not having to mess with frost plugs or potential coolant leaks.

Thanks everyone for the input!

R2

[linny]

R2, great news you didn't have to pull anything to get it in there! Enjoy your warm start-ups!!

[R2D2]

R2, great news you didn't have to pull anything to get it in there! Enjoy your warm start-ups!!

Thanks, linny! Yes, this install seemed to be close to best case scenario. The bonus was I got a warmish afternoon to install it.

Yes-the warm start ups are great. The car starts like I just shut it off a little while ago and does not scream away on high idle. At below freezing with just 2 hrs of block heater run time I went from 2 miles until cool engine light out to less than 0.5! From what I've been reading most have found a EBH run time of about 3 hrs to be the most economical. I bought a GE digital timer at Home Depot today for less than twenty bucks so I can have the EBH come on automatically before I leave for work.

Should be great when the REAL cold gets here.

[nemelek]

To the Yaris warms up faster than any other car that I have owned. By the time I scraped the windows the car was ready to roll. The Dodge Deisel that takes 12 quarts of oil takes 12 miles to warm up. It came with a heater plug. One cold morning I pluged it in for my wife. She promptly drove off with it plugged in.

[JonS]

I just ordered a block heater, which should be here in a few days. Can anyone give me an idea where the socket is located on the rear of the block?

Thanks much,
Jon

[linny]

Jon, on my '08 with manual trans there is not a plug. It is a crypt on the lower drivers side of the block that the heater slides into after slathering with di-electric grease. With the '08 manual transmission I had to take a bracket holding the clutch cable off to get the heater into the block. You can find the hole from either above or below by feeling around. It is a liitle larger bore than a AA battery as I recall. You'd probably be able to see it using a mirror.. Good luck.

[R2D2]

Jon,

I spent some time finding the core hole. This is how I finally found it. (BTW I have an auto so I'm not sure how a manual will differ but I hear one will need to remove some brackets on the manual.)

Stand against the front of the car (if you're short like me the Toyota emblem will be lined up like a belt buckle) and reach with your left hand between the side of the engine and the battery, toward the back of the engine. Drop down until you feel the top of the transmission. The reason for using your left hand is it will naturally line up to get back to the area of the core hole. Keep sliding your hand toward the side of the engine under the metal coolant line leading with your fingers and feel for the hole there, just above where the transmission joins the engine. It should be large enough to get a finger in and mine felt polished on the inside. Make sure it is clean inside-this is a well protected area evidently as mine didn't even have any dust in it. Finding it is half the battle.

To install the heater:

I ran the cord first, but didn't tie it down until last. I ran it around the back of the battery and beside the airbox to the radiator and ran out between the plastic shroud and let it drop down to the lower grill. I ran it out through the grill and zip tied it to the grate. With the protective cap on the plug wedges neatly between the grate for storage. I'll post some pics later showing how I routed it.

Preassemble the cord to the heater-the cord and clip on the heater should line up. Grease the heck out of the core hole and the heater itself with the supplied lube. Find the core hole again with left hand while holding the heater in your right and get the heater in the general area of the core hole. The metal clip on the heater and the electical cord should be aimed toward the firewall. I then got it started in and found I had to rotate the cord/clip down until the heater would clear-then I had to rotate the clip/cord up at one point after that. When you get to the point the heater is all the way in the clip must be pointed straight back toward the firewall again so it can engage the ear that holds it in the block. It takes a bit of force coming straight in on the plug to snap it in but you will definitely know when the clip locks over.

I'll update this shortly with pics although they will be of limited help due to the area involved but hopefuly this will get you started off.

R2

Middle left pic is area to put left arm down through to located core hole. Between those three large rubber hoses and the battery. The aluminum/foil lined wire is the electric wire going to the block heater, to give you an idea.

Middle right is another angle showing the general area where core hole is located.

Bottom pic was taken blind with BB camera-this is the first time I've laid eyes on it, lol! The orange is the rubber plug attached to the block heater. The large bolt head to the right is actually located down-I'm not techno savvy and couldn't rotate pic to proper perspective. Metal coolant line I described above is also visible in the pic. It's tight in there!

Sorry this isn't the greatest-hopefully it will be of some value. If you can I'd recommend trying to find the core hole before the block heater even arrives-the muscle memory from finding it beforehand will be handy at installation time. Let us know how it works out! If I can be of further assistance or something isn't clear in my description, let me know and I'll try to clarify. Good luck!

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[JonS]

Thanks linny, and R2D2; that helps a bunch. When it arrives and I get at it, I'll post how the process went.

Jon

[thebarber]

i keep mine beside the battery +/- so when i use it i just pop the hood and pull out the plug which i leave hang out the top of the hood/bottom of the windsheild....i don't like threading it thru the lower grill because its so tiight down there

[BuildCode]

I'm going to order a block heater if I can get one for $50 or less, not having to deal with coolant to install it awesome. I found the hole in the block where the heater is supposed to go, and wow...it is not easy to get to on stick shift cars...

Anyone with stick shift want to comment on how difficult the install is since you have to disconnect the manual linkages?

[linny]

I have the manual transmission. Removing the clutch bracket and putting it back on was easy (literally a couple minutes total). The hard part for me was not being able to see when I was putting the heater in. Expect to squirm around for a couple hours trying (in vain) to find a angle to see what you are doing. You will end up having to 'trust your feelings'.

[Altitude]

From where are you guys ordering the heaters?

[linny]

I had ordered it from my local dealer's parts department.

[BuildCode]

sweet thanks linny :thumbsup:

[R2D2]

BuildCode,

I had to order mine from out of state as my local dealer had none and said it would be a while before they could get one. The dealer I ordered from was in MN and they shipped it at reasonable cost and very quickly. If you can't source one locally let me know and I can PM you the info.
It might even be the same dealer linny got his from, lol.

R2

[linny]

Kolar auto world Duluth Mn

[BuildCode]

BuildCode,

I had to order mine from out of state as my local dealer had none and said it would be a while before they could get one. The dealer I ordered from was in MN and they shipped it at reasonable cost and very quickly. If you can't source one locally let me know and I can PM you the info.
It might even be the same dealer linny got his from, lol.

R2

Okay cool. The parts guy at my dealer said freeze plug over the phone and I had to stop him and say I wasn't going to pre-pay for him to order it if he wasn't sure it was the correct kind. We shall see!

[JonS]

Thanks again to everyone for the pointers on where the heater socket was located. I got the block heater in today and it only took about 30 minutes. This is a really easy install (on an automatic, anyway) and one shouldn't have to have the dealer do it.

Jon

[R2D2]

Jon glad it went well!

R2

[firemachine69]

I currently have the block heater, and yes, it really does help.

I also have an oil pan heater and a battery heater to install when the weather cooperates. :rolleyes:

[BuildCode]

Well. I did it. With an Automatic trans block heater part # (PU140-0900) as well. All odds were against myself and my friend who helped. It was very time consuming, and it involved a few...hacks...

http://imgur.com/yzovf.jpg

I had to cut the 90º rubber boot off the cable, and turn it into more of a "straight out" type connector. I had to do this because the only way the block heater will fit in is: rotated so the flat spot is against the manual transmission. The manual transmission is in the way!! There may indeed be a correct part for manual transmissions, but the three Toyota dealers I called said this wasn't true, even though I've seen on every forum that the manual trans needs a different part # (C0140-0900) block heater!

I talked to a tech at a Toyota dealer and he had never put a block heater in a stick shift Yaris. The parts dept said there was no such thing as a different block heater for a stick shift, they only knew of the one part.

I especially didn't want to have to send this part back and find the other part elsewhere, so I made this one work! It was not possible to use the clip! Hard to explain, but there was no way to rotate it, shave it, etc, to make it fit with the manual transmission in the way. I lubed up the heater, inserted it all the way, and zip tied the wire very securely. It's not moving at all, that silver heat shielding is very stiff.

After cutting the 90º rubber boot off, I bet the wire out more, and pushed the heat shielding up to cover the wire, and then re-taped it (not pictured).

http://imgur.com/Fnfpm.jpg


The wire was very easy to route, I followed the nearby wire harness, and then dropped down to the front left lower fascia:

http://imgur.com/4Hq9V.jpg

http://imgur.com/NV127.jpg

For any other manual owners, it's very cramped with the shift linkages, they have to be removed: Silver wire harness bracket (one 12mm bolt), shift cables, shift linkage bracket (two 14mm bolts). Oh, and I took the battery out, which was helpful.

:burnrubber:

[R2D2]

Way to make it work!
Good job refitting the wire insulation after you modded the boot-I think that will be important for longevity.

R2

[Idahotom]

I'm heading back out to the shop to complete my block heater install. With the local dealer shop rate at $84.00 an hour, I'm still working for decent wages, even though I wasted an hour or two before checking back here to see how others did it!

I removed the bracket that holds the shift linkage, but NOT the heavy cast iron bracket (secured from behind with 2 14mm bolts) that secures the shift cable housings themselves. I eventually figured out, even with the location of the yet invisible hole established, and the other extranuous stuff loosened and/or out of the way, there was no way to slide the heater in as the one shift cable thingie was too close, I could just barely start to insert it and then it'd hang up.

So, I first tried to slide the clip out that secures the shift cable closet to the engine, that would allow the cable (without removing the cast iron bracket that secures both cables) to slide up enough to be out of the way. Getting that sucker out, or even getting a grip on it, proved to be a tad of a pisser, getting it back in would also probably be a bear. Getting at the 14mm bolts at the rear of the cast iron bracket may or may not be a bit*h also but here goes. I'll say one thing for Toyota, they sure use good hardware, and FULLY torque them down, and use GREAT loctite!

[Idahotom]

Well, I am done! And though my knuckles feel like I've been trying to pet a wolverine, it was worth it.

It took me a while to get it through my head the cast iron, black, bracket that holds the shift linkage cables in position MUST be removed (actually just unbolted, NOT taken out of the car). Others have already adequately described the other components needed to be loosened and/removed.

BTW, mine IS a 5 speed.

To get the cast iron bracket off FIRST remove the single 12 MM bolt that holds the light sheet metal bracket that supports the wiring loom, that makes getting at the 2 14 MM bolts that secure the iron bracket much easier.

The first 14 MM bolt I removed, on the right, or drivers side, wasn't too tough, I just played around until I got the right combination of socket extensions etc, pretty straightforward. The second one drove me crazy, I could get a Flex GearWrench on it, but only in a very awkward position allowing nowhere near enough torque to break it loose. To cut to the chase: I finally gave up, drove my backup Toyota car ('89 AllTrac) 20 miles to town and bought a Flex 3/8" drive (1/2" drive would work also) ratchet and then used a 12 pt. 14 MM socket. That was the subtle combination of tools that finally allowed me not only to get at the damn bolt, but also reef on it hard enough to break it loose! SIMPLE....now! My 1/2" breaker bar with a 5 sided socket didn't have the needed swing in the tight confines I was working in, the 12 sided socket and the flex head ratchet did, but still it was tight as in how many degrees of swing, but who cares at least I had it moving!

I can't believe it took me this long (61 yrs old, homebuilder, welder, airplane builder, renewable energy equipment seller/installer) and all around handy very mechanical guy but not strictly an automotive wrencher) to realize the benefits of a flex head ratchet! I have u-joint drives and lots of extentions in all sizes drives, non worked here.

So...do it yourself, ain't that hard ONCE you remove what HAS to be moved, have the right damn tools, and you FINALLY get that catridge type block heater to slip on into it's place, man that felt GOOD! Like others, I still have not laid eyes on the port it fits into. IF I had to do it again, knowing what I know now, I could do it in an hour max, this time Ha Ha, it took "more".

[R2D2]

Idahotom,

Well done, thanks for sharing your experiences.

Like you I felt like I was getting good at it when I was finished. I got to test the theory when a coworker asked me to install a block heater in his 07 sedan. Didn't take me long at all, but it was an auto so it was much simpler.

[yaris2010RS]

what a way to bring the thread back to life, lol. i will prob be installing one some time mid november. i will let u know how it goes, i have a 5speed

[bronsin]

I have ordered the block heater for my 09 Yaris with automatic transmission. I have a timer which will allow me to turn the heater on in the morning before leaving for work at 5:20 AM.

I live in NJ where nighttime temperatures run from 15 degrees F to 30 degrees on a warm night. 15 is pretty cold and unusual but we had a lot of that last winter. I was getting less than 30 mpg driving the six miles to work. Which is 90% of the miles I put on the car.

First I have to drill a hole in the side of my house for the extension cord to run through!

The I have to find the great allmighty hole in the block. I take it the hole is pretty near the top of the engine?

Is battery removel going to help any?

How many hours of on time are people finding it good to set the timer for? 1?, 2?, 3?

What improvements in MPG are people getting? And under what conditions? Discuss at lenth if possible.

Thanks!

[bronsin]

Had the battery out this AM.

I think I found the hole but its REALLY small! Like a AAA Battery?

Correct me if Im wrong but:

The hole is in the cylinder head.

Its in the LEFT SIDE of the CH. NOT the BACK of the CH.

So the long lenth of the heater cylinder when installed is SIDEWAYS in the car like the engine itself?

Thanks!

[BuildCode]

Had the battery out this AM.

I think I found the hole but its REALLY small! Like a AAA Battery?

Correct me if Im wrong but:

The hole is in the cylinder head.

Its in the LEFT SIDE of the CH. NOT the BACK of the CH.

So the long lenth of the heater cylinder when installed is SIDEWAYS in the car like the engine itself?

Thanks!

Yes the hole is small, not AAA, closer to AA ;)

It is on the left (american driver's side) of the head, but it is very close to the back of the head. Because you have an auto trans, it should be a little easier to get in compared to a manual, and I believe yours should actually clip in.

As far as times go, I forget what I ran mine for, I think I pre-warmed the engine for 2 hours??

See my pics, I believe in this thread, actually haha.

[bronsin]

Yes the hole is small, not AAA, closer to AA ;)

It is on the left (american driver's side) of the head, but it is very close to the back of the head. .

Hmm the hole I found i would say was close to the FRONT of the head. Like, you know the large dismeter coolant hose that goes into the head? Like IN FRONT of that.

The hole was smaller than AA too.

Must not have had the correct one.

Crap and I put the battery back too and my back hurts.

[Kluak]

Sorry to bump an old thread. Didnt know if making a new one would be better...

i was wondering if this would fit on my yaris?

2007 auto sedan

http://trdparts4u.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-5127

or this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-OEM-Engine-Block-Heater-SEE-BODY-VEHICLE-FIT-/270864419263?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f10c709bf

only reason i ask is because it says Toyota of Canada, didnt know if there was a difference.

Thanks for the help

[CTScott]

Sorry to bump an old thread. Didnt know if making a new one would be better...

i was wondering if this would fit on my yaris?

2007 auto sedan

http://trdparts4u.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-5127

or this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-OEM-Engine-Block-Heater-SEE-BODY-VEHICLE-FIT-/270864419263?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f10c709bf

only reason i ask is because it says Toyota of Canada, didnt know if there was a difference.

Thanks for the help

Yes, that will be fine on a US Yaris.

[Kluak]

thanks Scott. you know everything, lol.

[bronsin]

Now that mine is in here are some observations.

Remove the battery! I did mine from the top. Maybe its easier from the bottom but if you go the top route once the battery is out of the way....its better.

The hole is in the part of the block nearest the firewall.

The hole is DOWN farther than you can believe. It is not near the top of the engine and its below some hoses and wires and stuff. Its so far down it might be easier to get at from underneath.

The wire comes out of the connector sideways. This is idiotic. It should come straight out. But its doesnt so you have to screw around getting the wire to lay in place.

I still dont have my clip engaged. But I read it has to point towards the firewall. Not sure where mine points to but I shove and shove and no SNICK.

It hurts my back too much to mess with this. Maybe next summer when its warm again?

[Hartside]

Does anyone know if a UK Yaris has the opening in the block for this heater?

[bronsin]

I see you have the 1.3 liter engine but I would think there MUST be a provision for one none the less.

I would say just look for the hole but then you have right hand drive and my directions would probably just send you on a wild goose chase!

[CTScott]

I see you have the 1.3 liter engine but I would think there MUST be a provision for one none the less.

I would say just look for the hole but then you have right hand drive and my directions would probably just send you on a wild goose chase!

If I am not mistaken, the 1.3 has the same bottom end as the 1.5, so it should go into the exact same hole.

[Hartside]

Thanks guys

[DevilGirl]

Anyone have any other ideas as to where I can get a block heater (or similar) from?

Went to my local dealer on Friday, "placed an order", paid for the order ($48), only to get a call a couple hours later that they can no longer order that part from Toyota because it's discontinued.

[Klink10]

Anyone have any other ideas as to where I can get a block heater (or similar) from?

Went to my local dealer on Friday, "placed an order", paid for the order ($48), only to get a call a couple hours later that they can no longer order that part from Toyota because it's discontinued.


Scroll back up thru this thread and find the links to a couple of Ebay sites. I am pretty sure the sellers had more than one available.

[bronsin]

Call the 800 number of a Toyota dealer in MN or ME and I would bet they can hook you up.

Mine was like $70 delivered.

[Revsson]

That ebay site says automatic transmission only, and Devilgirl has a MT.
In one of the posts on a prior page, it states a different part number for a MT kit.
If that is the correct parts number, I could ask my dealership if they have one in stock
or could get one. Can someone verify that part number for the MT?

[bronsin]

That ebay site says automatic transmission only, and Devilgirl has a MT.
In one of the posts on a prior page, it states a different part number for a MT kit.
If that is the correct parts number, I could ask my dealership if they have one in stock
or could get one. Can someone verify that part number for the MT?

As I understand it same part manual or auto.

The part goes in the engine block what could be different AT to MT?

[Revsson]

As I understand it same part manual or auto.

The part goes in the engine block what could be different AT to MT?

I was just going by this previous post in the thread:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=411977&postcount=30

I have thought about a block heater, but haven't had the need that I see.
The only time I would want one is at work, and outlets are hard to come by.
I have a garage here at my apartment, so the car is relatively warm and
I don't have to scrap the windows in the morning. Sometimes the outside
of the window will fog up on the way out. :tongue:

[bronsin]

I am hoping the bh will improve mpgs since I only drive the car 6.7 miles to work. If it warmed up faster you would think mpgs would go up.

[DevilGirl]

I'm just interested in not freezing when I leave for work at 4am. It gets mighty chilly at that hour!! :frown::thumbdown:

[bronsin]

I'm just interested in not freezing when I leave for work at 4am. It gets mighty chilly at that hour!! :frown::thumbdown:


My experience so far is it makes the cool engine light go out after half a mile instead of a mile plus. Note the coolant temp is only 140 degrees F when the light goes out. So you dont really have heat yet even with the light out.

I wonder if people who have the bh can say if it hellps get heat to the interior noticeably sooner?

[swede]

Sorry to bump an old thread. Didnt know if making a new one would be better...

i was wondering if this would fit on my yaris?

2007 auto sedan

http://trdparts4u.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-5127

or this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-OEM-Engine-Block-Heater-SEE-BODY-VEHICLE-FIT-/270864419263?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f10c709bf

only reason i ask is because it says Toyota of Canada, didnt know if there was a difference.

Thanks for the help


anybody purchase this one on ebay and install it? Want to know its good before I buy

[BuildCode]

Either of those should be fine, they look similar. They fit the auto easier than the manual, as you will see from my pics in this thread. I bought mine from a dealer in MN (I think??) that gets them from Canada, they aren't very common in the US. I believe the recommendation is in this thread as well.

And as far as interior heat goes, my ScanGauge reads water temps of a little over 100 deg F after using the block heater overnight, which as mentioned doesn't translate to much heat, since the cold LED stays on till 130 deg F. It does help for getting non-freezing air onto the windshield for faster defrosting. I am currently experimenting to see the shortest amount of time I need the block heater on to get to the max temperature.

[BuildCode]

I still had my PM from user R2D2 who helped me pick my block heater out, PU140-00900 is for the auto, so that will fit. C0140-00900 is for the manual, but you can make the auto version fit manual just fine as I did. And the dealer is Burnsville Toyota of MN.

[swede]

Great! Just bought it!

[BuildCode]

Great! Just bought it!

Cool let us know how it goes!

[naossoan]

I'm having a really hard time actually finding the damn hole for the block heater. I saw some pictures where the one for the automatic trans goes, but I have a manual transmission.

Is it in the exact same spot? I jacked the car up as I had better mobility to feel around from the underside of the car, but I could still not feel the hole to insert the heater plug into.

Where exactly is it?

Like....I took the battery out, then just to the left (when standing facing the car) and down of the battery is (I believe) the shifter cables/linkages. Just to the right of that is some kind of....I dunno it's kind of a clunky thing and I can move it with my hand. Seems to have something to do with shifting too. Is it just to the left, and down a smidge from that thing?

I guess it's kind of hard to explain without a picture.

Here are some pictures I manged to take by getting my hand up inside with my camera on my phone. Does it plug in where this little plastic thing is? Or...where is it around here?! This is the shifter cable plate thingy is the darker coloured metal.

EDIT::: Here is a link to an imgur album with some of the pictures. http://imgur.com/a/7fjcc#0
Where in relation to where these pictures are taken is the plug hole?

[BuildCode]

I don't think you'd have an easy time at all getting to it from the bottom of the vehicle.

Yes it is in the same location for manual trans, just a little more blocked by the linkages which is sounds like you found (move them and have someone watch the gear shifter and you'll know!)

It certainly sounds like you're close to finding it. The inside is very smooth and machined feeling. I don't think words will help as much as the pictures on here.

[naossoan]

WOW was that a pain in the ass AND THEN SOME.

For anyone with a Manual transmission, and I believe this has been said before:

You MUST unbolt the shifting cable mounting bracket thingy. I even had to undo where they connect to the shifting things with the little clips.

You MUST remove a 10mm screw for a wire which is right there.
You MUST remove the small mount in which that wire was screwed into.

The instructions for the block heater make it appear that it slides in from the BACK (back as in the the part of the engine furthest away from the front bumper). THIS IS NOT THE CASE! It slides in FROM THE SIDE! From Right -> Left if facing the engine compartment from the front of the car.

If you don't remove all those parts then the plug cannot slide in straight and it will get STUCK. This happened to me, as I didn't think I needed to remove the small mount for the wiring harness, but once I removed it it slid in easy-peasy.

The other thing is that once you install it, things are extremely tight in there. I was able to re-attach the small mount for the cable, but I was not able to re-attach the cable to that mount, the rubber part of the block heater plug was in the way of this. I even made sure that the plug was pushed in all the way, which is was.

While re-mounting the shifting cable bracket thing it seemed like it just BARELY fit back on. It was right up against the side of the block heater threading (which is useless anyway not sure why it's there).

I double checked to make sure I had the right block heater plug, and it says for the 1NZ-FE engine 1.5L so it had to be the right one, but my god was it tight.

The actual location of the plug is directly beside where the shifting cables bracket thing and the small mounting bracket for that cable is. The actual hole is invisible from the front/side of the engine because there are too many other hoses and stuff in the way, you have to feel for it which is also very awkward and hand-cramping.

Careful when you undo the bolts for the shifting cable bracket, I smashed my hand really hard against the heat shield by the exhaust manifold when the bolt gave, so wear some gloves.

There weren't many good pictures of this location/installation so I took some:

http://i.imgur.com/z5yDI.jpg
http://imgur.com/JeyOL
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[bronsin]

I did mine on my auto trans. There no brackets to remove or anything. But finding the hole and inserting the heater is more involved than it needs to be. All the pictures dont help an aweful lot.

Remove the battery definately.

If someone has an engine out of the car and can post a pic of the location that would help more than anything else.

[Altitude]

RESIZE YOUR PICS PLEASE

[Hard_Yaris]

Just replaced my blockheater a few days ago...
Was a lot to take apart to get at... it was a little tight and most of it happened by feel, took me about 1.5h from start to finish.
the one i pulled out had a ripped boot and was not connecting properly... i did find a folded up piece of cardboard under the plug of the block heater.... when i unfolded the cardboard it was a toyota parts chunk of cardboard... not sure if this is a Toyota Certified fix or not.

[cosado]

naossoan
Thank you for the pictures! They helped more than anything I've found so far

[Amdkt7]

Well, I spent a bunch of time trying to find the hole. I found one hole where I thought it should be, but it was not big enough for the heater that I got. Looking at the pictures again I think that was the wrong hole. It should be on the edge of the block, but I could not see anything or feel any holes in that area. Frustrated. I guess I'm going to take it to the dealer to let them install it.

[Frank Necrosis]

After several years of use, my block heater failed. The wires on the plug end became frayed and shorted out. I would prefer to replace the whole heater & cord assembly.

The challenge has been finding part number C0140-00900. My car has a manual trans. I would like to order the correct part this time instead of modifying a heater for an auto trans car.

Any idea where to get p/n C0140-00900 these days? My searches are not finding anything for sale.

[Amdkt7]

I may have that one Frank. I bought one and never installed it. I could not find a way to access the hole, and never took it anywhere to have it done. The one I bought was for a manual transmission. If you are interested send me a message. I will have to check the part number when I get home.

[Amdkt7]

I responded, though I don't see it in my private messages (sent). If you don't get my message (Frank N), then post here.

[atomic_hoji]

Since this thread is already resurrected, I thought I'd add to it.. :biggrin:

I was looking for the Toyota OEM block heater, but read that Toyota Canada recently issued a recall for the factory unit due to manufacturing faults that could lead to a short circuit. https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/about/news/toyota-recalls-certain-accessory-block-heaters If you can't find the OEM model, the recall may have affected your region as well.

I found 2 options for aftermarket, cartridge style block heaters that are listed to fit our cars:
- Kat's Heaters, p/n: 11813
- Zerostart (Phillips-Temro), p/n: 3100129

When I went to the local Ideal Supply (NAPA in Canada) they said they don't carry the Kat's, that it's only in the U.S. stores. The Zerostart, made by Phillips-Temro, is the one stocked in the Canadian stores.

Installation follows the information given in this thread. There's also a good YouTube video install on a Tacoma and Corolla if you search.

Hope that helps someone stay warm this winter. :thumbsup:

-- Adam

[David C]

I just installed mine on my '07 HB auto. The pictures Naossoan posted really helped. I simply fisted my right arm down there and moved stuff around till I felt a hole underneath the metal hose. Then the fight was to get the Phillips-Temro heater I bought off Amazon.ca (~$53 CAD) in just the right Tetris location so it could slide straight in without snag on the hose and cables. Had to push harder from different positions to get the heater clip to snap in, but all in all it took me about 15 minutes under light cold rain.

Then to run the cord to the front grill. Fugget about it. I park in my yard and when it snows the front grill is 6 feet under. Good luck rampaging the extension cord with the shovel at 4am in the morning. I bought the Noco GCP1 AC port and plan on installing it by the black plastic flashing near the passenger side view mirror if there's enough depth (need 1.5"). That would keep the cord in clear sight and out of the snow so I can easily operate.

[David C]

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[Ukrainian]

Here is the original block heater for $65 Cad, I have purchased one from my local dealer, seems good quality, has lube included and several zip ties. Now need to install it.
PK5A4-08J04 BLOCK HEATER
https://parts.sptoyota.com/products/pk5a4-08j04-block-heater
https://i.ibb.co/VBHbtGk/154-A43-AD-F4-EB-4953-AC3-E-61-BFBF489185.jpg (https://ibb.co/RHht9KJ)
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[IronYaris]

Here is the original block heater for $65 Cad, I have purchased one from my local dealer, seems good quality, has lube included and several zip ties. Now need to install it.
PK5A4-08J04 BLOCK HEATER
https://parts.sptoyota.com/products/pk5a4-08j04-block-heater
https://i.ibb.co/VBHbtGk/154-A43-AD-F4-EB-4953-AC3-E-61-BFBF489185.jpg (https://ibb.co/RHht9KJ)
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What sort of lube was included?
Dielectric grease? Thermal paste?

[IronYaris]

How easy was it to put everything back?

[ZippoYaris]

This is for a 2007 Yaris with auto trans?

It looks like the right one as for some reason 2007 has a 90 dergree plug end on the heater end, eh?!

I had an issue with my electrical plug in end and decided to just cut the old one off and solder a three prong plug I had from an old programable timer. It was a pain to add but I didn't feel like taking the whole cord out. If my fix last until Spring then I will get this new one.

Thanks for the post and I hope this thread is back to life now!! :thumbup:


Here is the original block heater for $65 Cad, I have purchased one from my local dealer, seems good quality, has lube included and several zip ties. Now need to install it.
PK5A4-08J04 BLOCK HEATER
https://parts.sptoyota.com/products/pk5a4-08j04-block-heater
https://i.ibb.co/VBHbtGk/154-A43-AD-F4-EB-4953-AC3-E-61-BFBF489185.jpg (https://ibb.co/RHht9KJ)
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[ZippoYaris]

Just an update. I got the block heater this morning via Purolator!! The price total was $84. Heater $65, Shipping $15 & Taxes $4. I am pleased as this is a genuine Toyota replacement part unlike all those other heaters you see on Amazon and PartsAvatar, etc. With shipping it costs about the same anyway!

Toyota even revises these things! Mine is REV 03 date of 7/22 on it! Yay!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEWUbkVeYCfirT5tG1aYC3QcmWFiOITDq2GssXgX5QS8Fm _E-fdfcPDFedLoS2AypPJhHy4c5trVooa1uVfiwLDIPFH_jXSbmh5 6aZQ7EaUj9IRVH_Z52CDPumVJKF81RXmOvsYpiXJ9-SEHNZH5gGjI=w1389-h1057-no?authuser=0

[JakeVIII]

Does anyone know of a block heater that would be compatible with a 2008 Toyota Vitz with a 2SZ-FE engine?