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does anyone know the size of the oil drain plug-gasket. :iono:
yaris-me
10-12-2009, 03:22 AM
The plug is 14mm-1.5. A gasket with 8mm ID and 14mm OD should work.:smile:
:thumbup:thanks have not changed the oil yet and did not want to get stuck without the right one happy thankgivings
AlexNet0
10-12-2009, 08:33 AM
I've never used one. I didn't even know it was there till a few months ago. But i havent leaked at all, so I dont worry about it.
1stToyota
10-12-2009, 09:06 AM
Mine stays stuck to the pan and still looks good because I don't over-torque, so I leave it be.
linny
10-12-2009, 01:04 PM
Last year I put the fumoto valve in. I have changed the oil twice since and all I have to do is put a pan under the car and push and slide the little lever. After the oil is drained out you just slide the lever back. It is really sweet!
WolfWings
10-12-2009, 01:14 PM
Just swing by any toyota dealership. They sell bags of like... a thousand of those washers for a few bucks. At least the parts department at the local dealership is more than happy to hand those washers out like candy, just so you have the right part and since it's so cheap anyways.
bronsin
10-12-2009, 02:13 PM
That sealing washer is an amazing little gomer. The one on my ECHO is still there after nearly nine years and 27 oil changes and still seals perfectly.
yaris-me
10-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Last year I put the fumoto valve in. I have changed the oil twice since and all I have to do is put a pan under the car and push and slide the little lever. After the oil is drained out you just slide the lever back. It is really sweet!
Fumoto!:thumbsup:
talnlnky
10-12-2009, 05:29 PM
anybody got a link to this fumoto easy change plug adapter gadget (or a pic of it installed)? Depending on what it looks like, i'd be tempted to buy one. I fear what would happen if I ran over a piece of debris at highway speeds. A picture is worth a thousand words.... and possibly a sale.
bronsin
10-12-2009, 06:20 PM
Hmm so you just have to flip a lever to dump the oil out of the crankcase with the Fumoto?
1stToyota
10-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Hmm so you just have to flip a lever to dump the oil out of the crankcase with the Fumoto?
Yes, and it almost sticks out like a sore thumb.
Jegs has the Fram Sure Drain for $24.00, cheaper at Amazon.
No lever. Attaching drain hose opens spring loaded valve. After oil drain, with hose off, you thread on o-ring sealed cap, so it's double sealed.
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/400/410/410-SD2.jpg
Fumoto
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416K0-UXzjL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
schleppy
10-12-2009, 10:40 PM
I've never changed the gasket on mine, it's stuck to the oil pan and has yet to leak at all.
bronsin
10-13-2009, 12:34 AM
What happens if it opens when youre driving? (nevermind I know what happens!) Hard to improve on a ten cent bolt. (and its free!)
kustom play
10-13-2009, 02:09 AM
yea i never ever have changed the oil gasket. Never had a leak
yaris-me
10-13-2009, 03:26 AM
anybody got a link to this fumoto easy change plug adapter gadget (or a pic of it installed)? Depending on what it looks like, i'd be tempted to buy one. I fear what would happen if I ran over a piece of debris at highway speeds. A picture is worth a thousand words.... and possibly a sale.
http://www.qwikvalve.com/home.php
I've used Fumoto on four cars so far and have never had a problem. You can place the valve lever on the top so it's away from the road. It's a lot better than the Fram and cost about $2 more. I tried the Fram on an old used car that I had and it is a POS. :laugh:
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 09:43 AM
What happens if it opens when youre driving? (nevermind I know what happens!) Hard to improve on a ten cent bolt. (and its free!)
That's only a concern with the Fumoto :laugh:
The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller. :thumbup:
Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon
I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned. :wink:
bronsin
10-13-2009, 11:13 AM
If I was going to do it Id use the FRAM one. That Fumoto looks like potential $$$$$ trouble to me! Gee I COULD eliminate my 14mm wrench from the tool kit though!
CTScott
10-13-2009, 11:25 AM
That's only a concern with the Fumoto :laugh:
The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller. :thumbup:
Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon
I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned. :wink:
It is 12mm-1.25.
I put the Fumuto F-103 on my Yaris and my Xterra (same size one as the Yaris). I was very impressed with the quality and with how hard it would be for the valve to be accidentally opened. it has a ball valve, and on top of that it has a significant spring that you have to press the lever against to open the ball valve.
It's nice being able to drain the oil without getting a drop on your hands.
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 11:53 AM
It is 12mm-1.25.
I put the Fumuto F-103 on my Yaris and my Xterra (same size one as the Yaris). I was very impressed with the quality and with how hard it would be for the valve to be accidentally opened. it has a ball valve, and on top of that it has a significant spring that you have to press the lever against to open the ball valve.
It's nice being able to drain the oil without getting a drop on your hands.
I'm thinking about getting something, probably the Fram, because I'll be doing UOAs on my next 2 oil changes and figured it'd be easier to get samples with a drain device.
The Fumoto lever doesn't scare me, but if it hangs a little lower than the pan I was afraid that a board or similar debris could hit the entire valve itself.
CTScott
10-13-2009, 12:12 PM
Here's what mine looks like.
From the front (barely visible between the two bumps):
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From the side (If you put a level across the bottom most point of the oil pan it sticks down about 1/2" below the bottom of the pan):
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yaris-me
10-13-2009, 12:42 PM
That's only a concern with the Fumoto :laugh:
The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller. :thumbup:
Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon
I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned. :wink:
The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 01:26 PM
The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.
Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.
bronsin
10-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Here's what mine looks like.
From the front (barely visible between the two bumps):
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From the side (If you put a level across the bottom most point of the oil pan it sticks down about 1/2" below the bottom of the pan):
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Hmm I gotta think hitting something on the freeway like a tire carcass is going to make your day a lot more interesting!
yaris-me
10-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.
Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 02:21 PM
Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.
No, I want the one that will be least likely to cause me headaches and looks the least like a sore thumb...just sorry that Fram looks like the smarter choice for me [and I'm not the only one], and even worse that it's only $8.00 at amazon, but the Fomoto does have the much more exotic sounding name. :rolleyes:
CTScott
10-13-2009, 03:21 PM
I looked at the Fram one at WalMart and wasn't impressed with the quality of it. The thing that struck me about the Fumoto is that it is an incredibly well made valve (hence the price tag). It is definitely a larger target, but if it took a hit, I think it would rip away a chunk of the oil pan before it actually broke. The Fram seemed like it could be deformed quite easily.
Our oil pan is an easy target for road debris, considering how close it is to the ground. If I ran over something that I couldn't avoid in the road, I would pull over as quickly as possible to assess damage.
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 03:30 PM
Hmm I gotta think hitting something on the freeway like a tire carcass is going to make your day a lot more interesting!
Agreed. Looks like a big ol' bulls-eye to me.
I just ordered the Fram SD-3 [$12.89, shipped], I'll post up some pictures when I get it installed.
talnlnky
10-13-2009, 05:47 PM
Agreed. Looks like a big ol' bulls-eye to me.
I just ordered the Fram SD-3 [$12.89, shipped], I'll post up some pictures when I get it installed.
got a link to the exact unit?
If I do this.... it only makes sense for me to do it to both my yaris & the 00 subaru legacy the better half drives.
The fram would most likely be fine, and if I could get two shipped for under $30, that saves me enough to fill my tank up with gas.
$30 savings is significant... I doubt fram would sell a product that was bound to get them sued multiple times because it easily broke when it hit dibris, or randomly leaked.
1stToyota
10-13-2009, 08:04 PM
got a link to the exact unit?
If I do this.... it only makes sense for me to do it to both my yaris & the 00 subaru legacy the better half drives.
The fram would most likely be fine, and if I could get two shipped for under $30, that saves me enough to fill my tank up with gas.
$30 savings is significant... I doubt fram would sell a product that was bound to get them sued multiple times because it easily broke when it hit dibris, or randomly leaked.
This is the link for the 12x1.25 Sure Drain
http://www.amazon.com/Fram-SD3-SureDrain-Access-Change/dp/B000BQY82E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1255474625&sr=8-4
The good thing about it is its small size which means if it gets hit it'll probably be more of a glancing blow. If it was bigger it'd take a harder hit. And I doubt it'll ever leak. It's got a good internal seal, plus the cap is o-ring sealed and leak proof if tightened properly. My brother has used one for a long time, no problems and he seems to like its quality.
1stToyota
10-16-2009, 05:47 PM
A photo of my Fram SureDrain with dust cap installed. Seems sweet. :thumbsup:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/KinskiGTO/SureDrain001.jpg
Yaris Hilton
10-16-2009, 05:51 PM
My daughter took her Yaris, at my recommendation, to the dealer for an oil change. They charged her something ridiculous like $10 for the oil plug gasket. None of us are ever going to a Toyota dealership for service again. Recalls only.
mikenacarato
10-16-2009, 05:57 PM
that fram stick out just as far as the fumoto. ive had a fumoto on my car for a year now and have nothing but great things to say about it! I highly recommend the fumoto valve...and before you say 'it will get whacked off by something' take it from someone who is ACTUALLY lowered. It doesnt come anywhere near hitting speed bumps of hitting banked turns on the nashville superspeedway (pretty rough transition from turns to the straighaway).
1stToyota
10-16-2009, 06:56 PM
that fram stick out just as far as the fumoto. ive had a fumoto on my car for a year now and have nothing but great things to say about it! I highly recommend the fumoto valve...and before you say 'it will get whacked off by something' take it from someone who is ACTUALLY lowered. It doesnt come anywhere near hitting speed bumps of hitting banked turns on the nashville superspeedway (pretty rough transition from turns to the straighaway).
Close. About 3/4" vs 7/8"
Anything that's in your path and large enough will do some whacking, and if that's the case I'd much rather be round instead of flat, and $8.00 still pwns $28.00, imo. :wink:
N2scouting
10-16-2009, 09:35 PM
I have a 2009 3DRHB. My oil plug does not use a gasket.
POORSHA
10-16-2009, 10:09 PM
I use the fram, 3 changes no problem
I installed the Fram a few weeks ago. The quality is very good and should not have any issues.
1stToyota
10-17-2009, 10:27 AM
I have a 2009 3DRHB. My oil plug does not use a gasket.
If it's like my '08, it's stuck to the pan. Unless it comes loose by itself, best not to disturb it. It's coated aluminum and the coating breaks loose if disturbed, or at least mine did, but it didn't matter because I did away with my plug and gasket.
I have had two Fumoto valves on two different cars and they are of excellent quality-I understand they have been granted OE status in Japan. I highly recommend them.
On my Yaris I was a little uneasy however due to the location of the drain plug. I ended up ordering a Fram from Amazon due to the low price so I could check one out. I think they are also well made and have since out fitted several engines and a compressor I service at work with Sure Drains and am happy with them- especially considering they were less than 8 dollars each. I have enough on hand also to outfit our small fleet of police cars.
My opinion is one would do well with either the Fumoto or the Sure Drain. They make changing oil even more fun and provide a much easier and cleaner means of obtaining UOAs for those who are inclined to.
1st, I have found the Sure Drain works well for sampling with the hose removed from the drain fitting. I would draw a few ounces, discard, then draw a sample. Either way much easier to get a non-contaminated sample than using the standard drain plug.
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