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Malaya1221
10-14-2009, 07:01 PM
i want one! :smile:

i smell perpetual motion?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4251491.html

yaris-me
10-14-2009, 07:34 PM
Law of Physics =/= perpetual motion

What about superconductivity?

Tamago
10-14-2009, 07:44 PM
energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Tamago
10-14-2009, 07:45 PM
and don't forget where the air comes from and how it gets compressed lol

Malaya1221
10-14-2009, 08:03 PM
the laws of physics are incomplete. we're just babies, man...we're just babies!(- a tribe called quest) :smile:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 08:06 PM
the laws of physics are incomplete. we're just babies, man...we're just babies!(- a tribe called quest) :smile:

you did read the article right? this is a car powered by compressed air stored on the vehicle. perpetual motion has nothing whatsoever to do with this.

Malaya1221
10-14-2009, 08:10 PM
air is everywhere/abundant so, i'm just putting it out there for the NERDS!

Tamago
10-14-2009, 08:17 PM
air is everywhere/abundant so, i'm just putting it out there for the NERDS!

yes, but the ability to compress it still requires an energy source. which means coal is still being burned at the powerplants, nuclear waste is still being stockpiled and stored, the list goes on and on.

consumers love to forget where their super-clean energy comes from. electric cars are zero emissions? yeah right. where does that electricity come from? unless you live near a hydro-electric power source, you're still contributing to pollution.

JumpmanYaris
10-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Ohh ohhh u started something now lol some one hold him back
(runs and puts a leash on Tamago and pulls back) :laugh:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 08:38 PM
i've said what i need to say in this thread :)

JumpmanYaris
10-14-2009, 08:45 PM
I wanna see a thread made for just Tamago and Mad Dog and see who wins lol

why?
10-14-2009, 08:47 PM
energy does come from somewhere, and humans are still far too stupid to get it from the right places. Some day we will take politics out of science, but not in the forseeable future.

yaris-me
10-14-2009, 08:49 PM
energy can neither be created or destroyed.

You haven't shown us your degree in physics. Law of conservation of energy does allow for perpetual motion.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 08:51 PM
You haven't shown us your degree in physics. Law of conservation of energy does allow for perpetual motion.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

kind of like a solar powered car that has a wheel driven generator on board to light up a light bulb mounted above the solar panel :rolleyes:

Malaya1221
10-14-2009, 09:05 PM
why? for president in 2016!

is quark really the smallest particle of matter? :biggrin:

what have i started? enjoy kids!

yaris-me
10-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Law of Physics =/= perpetual motion

You started this and you're wrong. WRONG! Own up. :mad:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 09:18 PM
You started this and you're wrong. WRONG! Own up. :mad:

show me a frictionless motion on the surface of our earth.













wait. no sex jokes now.

yaris-me
10-14-2009, 09:29 PM
ill admit to maybe not explaining clearly, in nature you cannot go against the law of physics, but you may on paper and in theory.

ex. in theory you could go as fast as light but in practice we cannot achieve it , there is no know material or compound that could withstand such forces.

Be a man. You're still wrong.

JumpmanYaris
10-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Why do i get this feeling of thread gonna end up locked:laugh:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 09:38 PM
the laws of physics are physics as they exist in THE REAL WORLD. and in the real world we have to fight friction.

Slick
10-14-2009, 09:44 PM
ex. in theory you could go as fast as light but in practice we cannot achieve it , there is no know material or compound that could withstand such forces.

Meh, I dont quite agree with this statement. Ever heard of a photon of light? Which, I believe is right up the alley for light travel :) Well, not actually. In theory you are right, because nothing can travel AT c. Things can only travel slower or faster. And only two ways to get faster. Turn into a photon of light and go past the barrier, then transform back into molecules. Or go the long way around. Which, is even harder to imagine than something turning into a photon of light and then back into a something. lol I hate the special theory of relativity :(

And as far as perpetual, thermal energy FTW :biggrin:

Tamago
10-14-2009, 09:54 PM
And as far as perpetual, thermal energy FTW :biggrin:

what happens when the sun goes down?

Slick
10-14-2009, 09:57 PM
what happens when the sun goes down?

I said thermal, not solar. So... it gets dark when the sun goes down. The earths core will still be hot. :thumbup:

How about this... GEO-thermal. Just to calm any confusion.

Slick
10-14-2009, 10:10 PM
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Because of the Dynamo Theory :)

Which is the formula that attempts to describe accurately the rotation of the iron in the outer layers of the earth's core







And no, I'm not trying to pretend to know what the hell I'm talking about. Its just that my physics class happens to be covering all these subjects, and I'm lookin at it in my lap :)

Slick
10-14-2009, 10:20 PM
Yeah, it takes one hell of an imagination lol

TLyttle
10-14-2009, 10:58 PM
Every college student taking physics knows about what I refer to as a daisy wheel (I have lost the name, again!). It is good for a fair amount of power, generates no heat, but is by no means perpetual motion, nor is it all that efficient, but it works. I built one decades ago, and it ran a bicycle generator on about a 12" diameter. This wheel was first recorded ~400 years ago, and can be boilt to work. My final version was going to use bowling balls for power...

yaris-me
11-08-2009, 03:32 PM
Bump.

why?
11-08-2009, 11:41 PM
Just bump?

Ok, I'm gonna really mess with everyone's heads.

Einstein was wrong. Not really through his own fault, but the old observable parts of science only go so far. Even with all the technology we have today, most of what is going on is still unobservable.

Just ask the nearest scientist. At this point it's dark matter, or Anti matter, that fills up about 80% or more of the universe...

Right... That makes so much sense.

Human science is in its infancy. We can make tons of observations, but we really cannot explain why.

One good example. We know what gravity does, but we don't know where it comes from. Our known parameters simply cannot explain the effects we give it.

What you get from the few times real scientists are actually intellectually honest is that we simply don't have a clue. All the crazy theories of everything, all the stuff we do, it works, but we simply can't explain why.

And when it doesn't work? It gets forgotten.

And as long as governments hand out checks to any scientist who will say what they want, real science isn't going to get done.

yaris-me
11-14-2009, 02:17 AM
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23707