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Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 03:36 PM

If there is anyone who is following this, Verizon is actually targeting Apple directly, claiming that their newest 3GS phone is far inferior to the Verizon Droid that is being released soon. In just over 8 days now.

Who here is waiting for it, and actually is considering buying it?
I know I would be, pending I didnt already have a 1.5 year contract left with Tmobile. Ill just wait till they unlock it and then buy it.

EleKid

10-28-2009, 03:40 PM

Oh, what? I heard the iPhone might be available for Verizon customers starting next year.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2009-04-26-apple-verizon-iphone_N.htm

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 03:46 PM

Down with Iphones...

Nothing personal, but Apple is slipping, they are focused too heavily on overpopulating the market with the phone, rather than develop for it. Which is why Android phones are becoming popular very fast. Almost every provider has a high tech phone running Adroid market. (Tmobile has 2, soon 3) (Sprint has a couple) (Verizon is releasing its own "Iphone Killer") Even ATT is supposed to have one soon enough, although they deny the claims.

Its very possible that Adroid based platforms could become the new Blackberry of the Phone world.

Or I heard it from somewhere: Best scales down the current Phone platform market
Android/Google = Apple
Apple = Microsoft

Too much isnt always a good thing, its how you refine it.

Seems that actual phone users who want content and hardware are falling in love with the Google releases, and Iphone users are just enjoying what they have, but envy some of the great Android apps and function.

Lafiro

10-28-2009, 04:06 PM

Droid will be faster, support more, and even by next year support FLASH on websites.

While iPhone either by Apple, or mostly AT&T is denied to do almost everything.

This is why I jailbroke my iPhone and my gf's iPhone, because I do not care for these two companies BS.

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 04:14 PM

Actually all Android phones should support Flash by the end of this year, seeing Eclair is supposed to be released Late November, and all members should recieve it by Christmas, or at least that was the last updated release date.

kustom play

10-28-2009, 04:19 PM

looks cool

i would rock a google phone but im on sprint so....

EleKid

10-28-2009, 04:51 PM

I had Verizon, and then I got T-Mobile. So now I have 2 phones. I was thinking of switching to T-Mobile all the way once my VZN contract runs out, but after seeing the VZN Droid I think I'll stay with VZN. It already has the best coverage, and if you add this new phone to it, it's game over

Gideon

10-28-2009, 04:55 PM

looks cool

i would rock a google phone but im on sprint so....

...you'd have to switch to an Everything Data plan. :frown:

If that's not the issue, Sprint has the HTC Hero currently and the Samsung Moment in just another week or so I believe.

kustom play

10-28-2009, 05:02 PM

i have the HTC touch with a data plan

i love sprints data plan which is why ive been with them but my HTC touch sucks balls

Gideon

10-28-2009, 05:05 PM

Yeah, the Touch does suck balls. You'd get along really well with the Hero.

On screen keyboard is thousand times better on the Hero in comparison to the Touch.

tomato

10-28-2009, 05:11 PM

Oh, what? I heard the iPhone might be available for Verizon customers starting next year.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2009-04-26-apple-verizon-iphone_N.htm

Yeah, it would appear that's not the case.

http://leoville.com/2009/10

See Leo's twiter update of October 25.
I heard the guy's tech show on Sunday. He went extensively on how Verizon wouldn't be coming out with that kind of ad if they were getting the iPhone anytime soon.

OP: I'll consider the android phone. I like the iPhone just fine but I think the plans $$ sucks. I was looking at the BlackBerry, but now that all these phones are coming out, I'm still considering my options. (I don't have a contract with any carrier right now, just the way I like it :thumbup: )

Altitude

10-28-2009, 05:51 PM

tomato

10-28-2009, 05:58 PM

enviri

10-28-2009, 06:03 PM

i used the Droid today at work (verizon :/) and it runs well. I dont know about it being an iphone killer, since i feel its pretty different from the iphone in feel and use. also I suggest holding on til lthe HTC droid is out, imo, the Motorola droid build quality is meh, and it freezes alot. the HTC was rock solid all around, and i prefer it over the motorola...even when the HTC has no keyboard.

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 06:17 PM

HTC is building hella nice devices...They also are the best builder of touch keyboards so far that are not Apple related. So If they are making a Droid for HTC, I would wait too.

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 06:20 PM

Only thing the HTC Dream (Tmobile G1) lacks is internal memory, its space is so easy to fill...Should have the option to move to SD card, but even then that proposes problems if you remove the SD you lose your apps.

enviri

10-28-2009, 07:35 PM

yeah hold until HTC. that device is actually quite small. it suprised me. Im waiting for the sony ericsson version myself.

Kioshi

10-28-2009, 08:48 PM

I've been following the commercials..very cool. I'm going to wait for reviews of this phone to come out first....every damn touch phone gets hyped nowadays...

I'm w/ Verizon, except i'm not paying retail price for the phone :(
Had a Omnia, i did a firmware update and it went black, its a brick now....so i'm skeptical of new touch phones...

I'll keep an eye out for this contender.

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 08:50 PM

Kioshi

10-28-2009, 09:11 PM

Well the thing is, no real company has put such heavy value into a phone like Verizon is with this phone...even the Blackberry Storm was hyped this bad. PLUS No one has even reviewed it, it never showed up any of the normal shows for preview, its kinda a hidden thing.

Plus George Lucas had to put his name on it, Since the word "Droid" belongs to him, lol.

Star Wars Fanboi's unite in the only "Star Wars aproved" Phone!

I like the design of it, reminds me of my ex's new cell phone by Sharp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWVHazvsJ4

I'd like to see how fast this phone really is, touch sensitive wise....i don't want lag when the screen orientation is happening and a call is incoming:rolleyes:

Sabretooth

10-28-2009, 09:28 PM

Sadly, I will be searching for a new phone probably here soon.

At least try and unlock a Hero or something to Tmobile network, due to the HTC Dream/G1 has reached the end of its updates.

Seems partitions are at 99.5% on the phone and we wont be recieving Eclair or possibly not even Donut.

Way to go not thinking about the future.

Anyone who got the Tmobile Mytouch, your in the same boat, 20MB left of space to add for updates. Good luck in years to come.

Im not blaming HTC for these faults, nor do I blame Google...I just think they really didnt chat much when designing stuff, also HTC thought the Adroid platforms were gonna be left alone, rather than changed every 4 months.

Who knows, maybe it will be possible to not root the phone, and allow a majority of files to be purged on a SD card, then we can update all we want. Should be an option.

I love my phones Hardware, but I hate the idea of losing out on such important updates like Flash player, and new OS setups.

Someone figure how to run a flash an Iphone to Android OS ;)

Sabretooth

10-29-2009, 04:57 AM

Ive been going off of info from Phandroid and DroidDog

I am running 1.6 too, but think the info that I recieved from this site really puts into perspective how little space the phone was initially given. Google is having to "make space"

http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/the-g1-storage-problem-in-charts-and-numbers/

whooppee777

10-29-2009, 03:29 PM

im definitely getting one. i dont want to wait 7 more days

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-DROID-US-EN

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/10/thanks-to-google-and-motorolas-droid-verizon-opens-up.html

Kal-El

11-29-2009, 11:07 AM

Just bought one last night!

This is a huge upgrade for me coming from a 2 year old RAZR. I've been wanting an iPhone for over a year but couldn't make the switch to AT&T.

The Droid is unbelievable. Although the iPhone does things this doesn't, the Droid does many things the iPhone can't do (as ads are pointing out :tongue:).

Full internet of course with blazing speed (pages load in 1-2 seconds). Apps download in seconds. The screen is actually bigger than the infamously large iPhone screen (3.7" compared to 3.5"). DVD quality camcorder, night time flash, ect. Great speaker - really loud and clear.

FREE google map navigation! In some ways better than my Garmin.

This thing is a full computer in your pocket. Now I can post on YarisWorld on the go! :biggrin:

hachi-roku_fan

11-29-2009, 11:46 AM

I saw the ads for this, looks promising, but for one reason or another, I'm sticking with Apple. I have a 16 gb 3G with about 6 months left on my contract, after that I'll get the 32 gb 3GS. I just love how iTunes just does everything for you, from apps to shows to music/movies. I do have a few gripes about it, but it won't deter me from getting a newer one. If Microsoft made a phone to use the Zune interface like iTunes then I might lean towards that.

2+2

11-29-2009, 12:07 PM

Can you connect it to a printer to let's say get a printout from a web page?

hachi-roku_fan

11-29-2009, 12:26 PM

Can you connect it to a printer to let's say get a printout from a web page?

No I can't, but I don't use my phone for that kind of stuff. I'm the type of person that would get something with less features but does what I want it to do good. Yea my Iphone doesn't connect to my printer, but I have everything I want in one device, my email, my media, my Internet surfing, all the features I want. I could get somthing like A Blackberry, but I don't need something like that. Besides, I can always email myself the link and print it through that unless you have a printer not connected to a computer with Internet. The solutions are there, you just have to think about it

slothman86

11-29-2009, 12:31 PM

IllusionX

11-29-2009, 01:06 PM

shouldn't verizon available with GSM soon?

Telus and Bell both have a GSM network now... and the iphone is available with just about any provider now. (almost)

Kal-El

11-29-2009, 01:12 PM

shouldn't verizon available with GSM soon?

Telus and Bell both have a GSM network now... and the iphone is available with just about any provider now. (almost)

In the US, AT&T has exclusive rights to carry the iPhone which drives millions of us nuts especially since Verizon is the best carrier.

Without the iPhone, AT&T would be nothing IMO. And because of AT&T's exclusive contract, Apple has lost millions of potential customers who won't switch over.

AlexNet0

11-29-2009, 02:14 PM

i run my apps from my sd card 8gb class 6. so the only thing on my internal storage is the os and i still have 85mb of space left

i agree, its fine once you get your root and do apps2sd. im running everything but the Cyanogenmod 4.2.5 (1.6) OS from a 4gb microsd.

that mod image is amazing btw

eht13

11-29-2009, 03:57 PM

shouldn't verizon available with GSM soon?

Telus and Bell both have a GSM network now... and the iphone is available with just about any provider now. (almost)

Verizon is not going to build a GSM network; they are CDMA. And given the recent Verizon ads that not only attack AT&T, but Apple too, it's pretty clear that Verizon no longer thinks Apple will ever think it's worth building an iPhone that could run on Verizon's network.

In the US, AT&T has exclusive rights to carry the iPhone which drives millions of us nuts especially since Verizon is the best carrier.

Without the iPhone, AT&T would be nothing IMO. And because of AT&T's exclusive contract, Apple has lost millions of potential customers who won't switch over.

Exclusive contracts for iPhone are common in many countries. "Best" is totally subjective and dependent on many factors, such as location, etc. If Verizon ever sells as many Droids as AT&T has sold iPhones, Droid users will likely experience the same occasional issues that iPhone customers have, due to the occasional strain on the network that is caused by so many data-heavy phones being used by so many customers. It's kind of like the "there's a map for that ads"; comparing apples and oranges. Also, if AT&T would be nothing without the iPhone, then that would mean they were nothing before the iPhone, which obviously wasn't the case.

Kal-El

11-29-2009, 05:41 PM

Verizon is not going to build a GSM network; they are CDMA. And given the recent Verizon ads that not only attack AT&T, but Apple too, it's pretty clear that Verizon no longer thinks Apple will ever think it's worth building an iPhone that could run on Verizon's network.

You know, I didn't even think about it that way. Verizon is essentially attacking the iPhone in an effort to promote Droid but there's been many rumors as to Verizon finally getting a hold of iPhone and selling it themselves.
Maybe this is sure sign that they won't.

Exclusive contracts for iPhone are common in many countries. "Best" is totally subjective and dependent on many factors, such as location, etc. If Verizon ever sells as many Droids as AT&T has sold iPhones, Droid users will likely experience the same occasional issues that iPhone customers have, due to the occasional strain on the network that is caused by so many data-heavy phones being used by so many customers. It's kind of like the "there's a map for that ads"; comparing apples and oranges. Also, if AT&T would be nothing without the iPhone, then that would mean they were nothing before the iPhone, which obviously wasn't the case.

I agree "best" is arguable. Generally though when it comes to national coverage, Verizon is proven to be on top overall.

And your also right about the flooded market straining the AT&T data network. Hopefully there's a way to continue to strengthen it as there's only going to be more and more people coming onto the data network system.

And before the iPhone came out and Cingular was merged into AT&T (around the same time), I never even heard about of AT&T still playing in the market. Heck, I thought they went away years before! All of a sudden they had emerged as the "new at&t" out of no where and bought the much more prominent Cingular.

2+2

11-29-2009, 05:49 PM

I agree "best" is arguable. Generally though when it comes to national coverage, Verizon is proven to be on top overall.

I've only had AT&T and Verizon and imo the word "sucks" was invented just for AT&T. Verizon on the other hand is very good. They're like an appliance you don't have to think about, it just works.

talnlnky

11-29-2009, 05:54 PM

US cell phone users really need to band together to get out from under the thumb of carriers.

Our cell phone market sucks. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10277723-94.html)

Would you folks pay full price for a phone to get true freedom of choice and no carrier controlled apps and features?
Agreed, back in 07 I lived in Japan for six months. The cell phone I got was just the run of the mill phone, on one of the cheapest plans. I paid something like $23 a month for basically unlimited calling, texting, and e-mailing. The crazy thing... when I came back to the states.... there were hardly any phones that had the same features as the phone I had.

US customers get shafted on cell phones & plans... Oh... other than cell phones... everything electronics was MUCH MORE expensive in japan than in the US. So don't even try to point out "its made there, so its cheaper".

on a side note... you people know that you can pick up basically any phone and use it on verizons network... Buddy of mine is a real estate agent and for the longest time used TRIO phones... but got so fed up with them he went out and bought an Iphone...works perfectly fine on the verizon network. Sure it may cost a bit more, but if you are willing to pay for it... you can have it.

Kal-El

11-29-2009, 06:49 PM

I've only had AT&T and Verizon and imo the word "sucks" was invented just for AT&T. Verizon on the other hand is very good. They're like a YARIS that you don't have to think about, it just works.

Edited :tongue:

Yeah, I've had Verizon for about 5 years and have yet to drop a call. Never a problem.

2+2

11-29-2009, 06:51 PM

Edited :tongue:

Yeah, I've had Verizon for about 5 years and have yet to drop a call. Never a problem.

I like the edit - wish I had worded it that way. :thumbup:

Kal-El

11-29-2009, 06:53 PM

....

on a side note... you people know that you can pick up basically any phone and use it on verizons network... Buddy of mine is a real estate agent and for the longest time used TRIO phones... but got so fed up with them he went out and bought an Iphone...works perfectly fine on the verizon network. Sure it may cost a bit more, but if you are willing to pay for it... you can have it.

I'm not sure how that is possible since the iPhone is only designed to run on AT&T's network design which is an incompatible system that Verizon uses.

:iono:

eht13

11-29-2009, 10:03 PM

And before the iPhone came out and Cingular was merged into AT&T (around the same time), I never even heard about of AT&T still playing in the market. Heck, I thought they went away years before! All of a sudden they had emerged as the "new at&t" out of no where and bought the much more prominent Cingular.

Here's a not-so-quick history. :wink:

At one point (before cell phones and the internet) AT&T was the phone company in the US. To address antitrust concerns, the government broke up the company in the 80's into regional "baby bells" (but AT&T as a company remained, it was just much smaller). Two of those baby bells were Southwestern Bell and Southern Bell. Southwestern Bell later became SBC, and Southern Bell later became Bellsouth. Those two companies created a joint venture wireless company and called it Cingular Wireless. Incidentally, around the same time, Verizon was created as a combination of other baby bells, including former regional wireless companies such as Airtouch.

Around the same time that Cingular and Verizon came along, AT&T spun off a wireless company and called it AT&T Wireless; it was a separate company. Later, Cingular Wireless bought AT&T Wireless. Then more recently, SBC (one of Cingular's two parent companies) bought AT&T, and renamed themselves AT&T (and started the "the new AT&T" campaign, together with an altered company logo), since the brand was still so famous worldwide. So one of the former baby bells actually bought their former parent, in effect.

Then after that, AT&T (the renamed SBC) bought Bellsouth, who was Cingular Wireless' other parent company. So at that point, Cingular was now wholly owned by one company, called AT&T, so the Cingular name also went away in favor of just being called AT&T.

I'm not sure how that is possible since the iPhone is only designed to run on AT&T's network design which is an incompatible system that Verizon uses.
:iono:

Exactly... it's not possible unless Apple ever builds an iPhone for Verizon, which as I said I doubt they would do. The iPhone is made to run on GSM networks along with the EDGE and 3G data technology that AT&T operates (the same technology that other iPhone carriers in other countries operate). The Verizon network is a different technology (CDMA, plus a different data technology). The other US carrier that runs GSM is T-Mobile, so I guess it would be possible to use an iPhone on that if it was unlocked from AT&T.

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BTW... I love my iPhone. : )

IllusionX

11-30-2009, 04:48 PM

the 2 other major carriers in Canada (Bell and Telus), whom both uses CDMA, have switched over to GSM recently... giving the iphone (and other GSM phones) 2 more choices of carriers on top of Rogers and its sub-carrier Fido.

speaking of T-mo... I think they use a completely different 3G technology than AT&T, making 3G unavailable for the iphone.

eht13

11-30-2009, 06:20 PM

^ Regarding T-mobile, that's probably right. They are GSM, but the data/3G technology part is probably different.

talnlnky

11-30-2009, 10:13 PM

I'm not sure how that is possible since the iPhone is only designed to run on AT&T's network design which is an incompatible system that Verizon uses.

:iono:

hmm... maybe i was misled... maybe brian has two cell providers then... Last I knew he was part of a $20,000 a year plan with Verizon, .... he had a lot of beef with them tho, so maybe he did finally justify switching over.

The Architect

11-30-2009, 11:13 PM

im basically drooling over getting this phone. if you can get on a family plan with someone its only about 50 bucks a month insured with full internet and messaging.

ahhhhh

DevilGirl

12-01-2009, 09:58 AM

BTW... I love my iPhone. : )

I'm with you. I love my iPhone as well. I've been with Cingular/AT&T since like 2001. I havn't found anything better that has the features I need, coverage I need, for less money. There has only been one area in which my AT&T phone has not worked. And in the same area Verizon did not work either. I think they only thing that even remotely had a signal was Sprint (Delaware Water Gap is a cell phone blackhole).

I used to have an aircard with Verizon. Sucked majorly. Was extremely hard to get a signal worth using most of the time. It would work one day, but not the next, and it hadn't been moved.

My dad has been with Cingular/AT&T longer than I have. And he travels throughout the country, Canada, Mexico, Europe, and Asia. He has not had an issue with his phone coverage either. (Granted he hasn't really been able to use it outside the U.S., but that's because his company doesn't want to pay for the international calling stuff or the roaming).

I've tried playing around with a Crackberry or two. Totally not a fan. Features/settings are hard to find. Not very user friendly (I am very familiar with different technologies and can generally just pick something up and figure out how it works in a matter of minutes).

eht13

12-01-2009, 02:31 PM

^ Cool! :thumbsup:

AlexNet0

12-01-2009, 10:11 PM

yup Cyanogen is tha man. waiting till this evening , he's suppose to release the Eclair 2.0 rom cant wait.

:drool: