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jt258
10-29-2009, 04:44 PM
Hi all of yaris world. just curious to know but has any one tried adjusting the exhaust timing gear on the 1nz-fe? i do realize thats an interference engine and you can't adjust vvt-i manually.
severous01
10-29-2009, 06:44 PM
um. i havent heard of anyone adjusting the entire cam, but i do know that on hondas and mitus's there's a cam timing gear swap. you can do more than the 16* for the oem tooth design. that's a little much in my book, but i'd like to see more aftermarket support for the yaris.
i'd like to see some intake manifolds, heads, cams, and some cheaper stuff. there's plenty as far as minor boltons like exhaust and pulleys though.
yaris-me
10-30-2009, 12:03 AM
Hi all of yaris world. just curious to know but has any one tried adjusting the exhaust timing gear on the 1nz-fe? i do realize thats an interference engine and you can't adjust vvt-i manually.
I don't understand what you would gain? :iono:
jt258
10-30-2009, 01:30 PM
The reason i asked is: i looked at one variable valve timing engine that pulled 8 degrees on the exhaust side an it gained 8-10 extra horsepower. thats why i was wondering.
thebarber
10-30-2009, 01:37 PM
emanage to add/pull timing
jt258
10-30-2009, 01:43 PM
on the exahust side?
thebarber
10-30-2009, 02:37 PM
or camcon for vvt
jt258
10-30-2009, 06:32 PM
I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXHAUST CAM.
curik
10-30-2009, 08:57 PM
Well what are you going to achieve by adjusting the exhaust cam timing? On the yaris' engine (1NZ-FE) we can only alter the valve overlap between intake and exhaust cams, which has been provided by the VVT-i mechanism (advancing/retarding the intake cam).
yaris-me
10-31-2009, 02:14 AM
The reason i asked is: i looked at one variable valve timing engine that pulled 8 degrees on the exhaust side an it gained 8-10 extra horsepower. thats why i was wondering.
Variable valve timing is one thing, changing the exhaust cam timing is another. Too much overlap and you lose vacuum. :frown:
curik
10-31-2009, 10:19 AM
Well I am quite positive that what VVT-i does is to advance/retard intake valve overlap only (not cam profile nor valve lift), hence does the same thing as a cam gear. VVT-i adjusts this overlap continuously throughout the rev however.. I guess what would make a difference would be an exhaust cam with more aggressive profile.
jt258
11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
i would like to see what our engines would do with a little less valve overlap and, by how much are powerband would change.
yaris-me
11-02-2009, 01:44 PM
i would like to see what our engines would do with a little less valve overlap and, by how much are powerband would change.
Study how cams work and you'll understand why variable valve timing helps economy and performance. You're just doing a guessing game right now.
jt258
11-04-2009, 03:03 PM
Ive studied how cams work for quite a while now. was just curious if anyone had pulled timing on the exhaust side. was'nt playing a guessing just so you know.
kngrsll
11-04-2009, 10:32 PM
you cant put adjustable cam gears on this car due to the vvti. the vvti adjusts cam timing in real time i believe. so in essence, you have adjustable cam timing now, its just that a computer does it for you now.
the camcon system will allow you to adjust the cam timing though
jt258
11-05-2009, 12:33 PM
now were getting somewhere. i realize that the camcon, e-manage and some aem systems w/ vvt control will control vvt-i in most cases. and i also realize that that most of theses engines you cant vvt because its controlled by a solenoid. i was just curious to know if anyone had adjusted the exhaust cam or if it could be adjusted. thanks for all the coments guys you've been a big help
Tamago
11-05-2009, 01:07 PM
1nzfe is single VVTI, you could technically adjust the exhaust cam gear IF you had an adjustable cam gear custom made (or retrofit from something else perhaps)
dual vvti like the new 2ZRFE (or is that 2RZFE? one is a tacoma, one is an xD/corolla lol) and you're out of luck.
jt258
11-05-2009, 01:41 PM
Thanks man.
H3LlIoN
11-12-2009, 02:24 AM
anyone have a definitive quotable source showing the 1nz as an interference engine? Everything I'm reading says no...
YarisSedan
11-12-2009, 02:27 AM
anyone have a definitive quotable source showing the 1nz as an interference engine? Everything I'm reading says no...
Ill let you know once my timing chain breaks.
H3LlIoN
11-12-2009, 02:33 AM
:laugh:
Tamago
11-12-2009, 01:50 PM
anyone have a definitive quotable source showing the 1nz as an interference engine? Everything I'm reading says no...
it is. do you need pictures of my bent valves from my blown engine?
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