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bronsin
11-11-2009, 01:21 PM
When I bought my 2009 yaris a hatchback was availible. In 2000 when I bought my ECHO I didnt have that option. I was stuck with a sedan. I really wanted a hatch. But now that I have one I realize that the sedan isnt so bad after all. With the fold down seats giving access to the trunk you can still get long items in there. I recommend the two door model because the doors are so much bigger. You can get much larger items in the interior that way. You might really be stuck with a four door since the doors are So much smaller. On my hatch I would really like to remove the rear seat and all some time. I just worry about resale value.

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 01:32 PM
except when you have a sedan with manual windows/locks and can't install power locks/window control panel. definitely no room for it. :( well on the '09 that is...

Dorkinheimer
11-11-2009, 01:34 PM
..and sedans only come in 4 doors.

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 01:37 PM
this he's confused with the words hatchback and sedan. :)

b_hickman11
11-11-2009, 02:00 PM
except when you have a sedan with manual windows/locks and can't install power locks/window control panel. definitely no room for it. :( well on the '09 that is...

No room for it? It's the exact same except for one has holes cut out with switches in them and the non-power doesn't have any cut-outs. You could just buy the OEM panel when you do your install.

bronsin
11-11-2009, 02:05 PM
except when you have a sedan with manual windows/locks and can't install power locks/window control panel. definitely no room for it. :( well on the '09 that is...

Thats a shame for those who would want to install them. My (unasked for) advice is dont get those things because they only break and cost $$$$ to fix. It recently came to my attention if you have remote locks and your cars battery goes dead YOU CANT GET IN THE CAR! WOW!

bronsin
11-11-2009, 02:06 PM
..and sedans only come in 4 doors.

Hmmm big disadvantage getting big things home.

bronsin
11-11-2009, 02:07 PM
this he's confused with the words hatchback and sedan. :)


:confused:

b_hickman11
11-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Thats a shame for those who would want to install them. My (unasked for) advice is dont get those things because they only break and cost $$$$ to fix. It recently came to my attention if you have remote locks and your cars battery goes dead YOU CANT GET IN THE CAR! WOW!


Why wouldn't you be able to get into the car? You wouldn't leave your ign. key in the car, would you? I have had plenty of batteries go dead in remotes but I have always been able to get into the car.

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 05:13 PM
No room for it? It's the exact same except for one has holes cut out with switches in them and the non-power doesn't have any cut-outs. You could just buy the OEM panel when you do your install.

Hm...interesting. I swear the '09 Sedan is different from the '07. I was looking at the interior of JumpmanYaris's '07 Sedan. It is pretty different from my '09.

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 08:30 PM
It may be different (07's to 09's) :iono:, but you can still get power windows and locks. As far as them breaking and costing money to fix, if you get it installed at a reputable retailer they generally warranty their work for as long as you own the car, it will be costly but you get what you pay for. As far as power windows, you do not need to have the switches on the door panels, but you can put them in the center console, there should be 2 cut outs for extra switches for whatever toyota decided not to put there.

Guess that would be an interior unique feature. :redface: Probably the only place to put it...I can even take a picture of my door armrest if you want to see how there is no space...

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Oh yea, I know where the cut outs near the gear shifter is. It's like right next to the e-brake. I don't know about using those because I have soo much wires already for my amp+sub and HU with bluetooth wires and USB cables.

bronsin
11-11-2009, 08:58 PM
Why wouldn't you be able to get into the car? You wouldn't leave your ign. key in the car, would you? I have had plenty of batteries go dead in remotes but I have always been able to get into the car.

I was thinking about a friend at work with a PowerStroke Diesel who wams the truck up before leaving at midnight. Key in the ignition, engine running doors locked. Keypad on the doors to open and get in. Keypad fails, doors wont open, motor cant be shut off!
Yeah if you had the key (outside) you could get in!

AzNguy
11-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Well your only alternative then is to buy an armrests for a sedan with the power package if you want to add those features.

Good idea! Who has some???? Anyone here? :biggrin:

b_hickman11
11-11-2009, 11:06 PM
I know there is not gonna be cut outs on the door panel. Take a picture of the center console where the gear shifter is, this is where I am talking about.

I have 2 07 sedans, one with the power package and one without, so I know what the differences are between the 2 for that year. The 09's may or are probably different but I would bet the console has 2 extra cut outs on it.

I have an 07 without Factory power and an 08 with Factory power. There is no difference between the 2 years. I could take the OEM switch panels out of the 08 and put them in the 07.

b_hickman11
11-11-2009, 11:07 PM
Well your only alternative then is to buy an armrests for a sedan with the power package if you want to add those features.

Sedans don't have the armrest(power or no power). I believe that is a feature only available on the LB.

b_hickman11
11-11-2009, 11:09 PM
I was thinking about a friend at work with a PowerStroke Diesel who wams the truck up before leaving at midnight. Key in the ignition, engine running doors locked. Keypad on the doors to open and get in. Keypad fails, doors wont open, motor cant be shut off!
Yeah if you had the key (outside) you could get in!

Those run off the car battery right and not a separate battery? So if the keypad is not working because of battery loss, then your car is not going to start even if you had the door opened.

Kaotic Lazagna
11-11-2009, 11:50 PM
I have an '07 sedan that did not come with a power package. I had Toyota install one for me (thinking it was going to be a swap with Toyota parts, but was not the case). They added the window buttons to where the cranks used to be, and drilled and added the buttons for the locks on the existing arm rests on the front two doors.

JBougie
11-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Sedans ARE awesome; I LOVE mine.... and I have arm rests on my doors lol

But, the only bad part about having a sedan is that you can't find cool after-market parts easily!

AzNguy
11-12-2009, 12:15 AM
Psh, there are good stuff out there, just expensive. :)

birdman
11-12-2009, 03:49 AM
I think the sedans look cool. I wish they made a hatchback with the sedan styling too.

b_hickman11
11-12-2009, 02:01 PM
He was saying that his does not have the cutouts (non power package), so I said to buy the armrest that has the cutouts for the power window and power locks. Or I should say he probably does not have to buy the arm rest he can probably just buy the trim.

So you are repeating what I said in post #5.....Way to go!!!

b_hickman11
11-12-2009, 02:04 PM
Well I don't know what kind of yaris you are driving but I can assure you that there is an armrest on each door.

My bad...I thought you were talking about the real armrest that the LB folks are always talking about getting and installing. I really wouldn't call those things on the door an "armrest." They serve more of a purpose as a door pull. Maybe your arms are that small but mine would fall right off!

AzNguy
11-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Where could I get one with a OEM power panel? From totaled Yarii members?

b_hickman11
11-12-2009, 04:51 PM
Where could I get one with a OEM power panel? From totaled Yarii members?

That would be the cheapest way to go. You could also go to the dealer but of course you would have to pay the massive marked up price. There are also several online Toyota Parts sites that you could get it from. It will be cheaper than the dealer.

b_hickman11
11-13-2009, 09:44 AM
Thank you Mr. Dicktionary! :)

IllusionX
11-14-2009, 01:04 PM
camelll: i'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing.. but my sedan does not have any cutouts in the middle console like the hatchback.

The powerlock button is located on both front door's panels.

b_hickman11
11-15-2009, 01:34 AM
If you install and aftermarket power lock kit you do not need separate switches. You will only need switches for the windows if you plan on doing both.

Kaotic Lazagna
11-15-2009, 09:06 PM
I have those empty slots in mine too.

IllusionX
11-16-2009, 11:38 PM
sorry, i noticed i have those the other day too...... :rolleyes:

I wonder what's all this about the sedan have no space to install powerdoor locks/keyeless entry.. :(

AzNguy
11-17-2009, 12:37 AM
sorry, i noticed i have those the other day too...... :rolleyes:

I wonder what's all this about the sedan have no space to install powerdoor locks/keyeless entry.. :(

It's because of have an old yaris. Kthxbai.

b_hickman11
11-17-2009, 01:45 PM
sorry, i noticed i have those the other day too...... :rolleyes:

I wonder what's all this about the sedan have no space to install powerdoor locks/keyeless entry.. :(

I installed power locks and keyless on 07 Sedan with no problems.

Jem_hadar
06-17-2010, 03:47 PM
It recently came to my attention if you have remote locks and your cars battery goes dead YOU CANT GET IN THE CAR! WOW!

Not true at all.

I have automatic locks on my Yaris Hatch. I have my battery die back in 07. Left an interior light on at the car park before going away on a one week vacation.

I was, of course, able to get into my Yaris no problem by manually unlocking the doors with my key.

How could it possibly be the case that you couldnt manually lock or unlock you car? Crazy thought.

IllusionX
06-17-2010, 04:31 PM
Not true at all.

I have automatic locks on my Yaris Hatch. I have my battery die back in 07. Left an interior light on at the car park before going away on a one week vacation.

I was, of course, able to get into my Yaris no problem by manually unlocking the doors with my key.

How could it possibly be the case that you couldnt manually lock or unlock you car? Crazy thought.

imagine the lawsuits if you cannot get in the car without using the keyless fob.. lol