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KSIbucky
11-01-2006, 12:54 AM
would this work for a yaris or am i better of just getting a yaris short shifterhttp://www.trdparts4u.com/PD-PTR04-52041-50.aspx?MakeID=1

ChinoCharles
11-01-2006, 02:45 AM
Looks a little different... excuse the blurry picture, camera phone.

2089

My buddy actually just hacked a center section out of my stock shifter with an air saw and welded the pieces back together at an angle. My short shifter cost me a 12 pack... haha.

eTiMaGo
11-01-2006, 03:07 AM
That TRD one is interesting, looks like the whole plastic assembly is changed, not just the rod like the TWM one or ChinoCharles' amazing high-tech shifter :biggrin:

Someone should get that TRD one and compare it to the stock assembly :wink:

SmellyTofu
11-01-2006, 04:11 AM
The TRD one is a whole assembly. No cutting, no bodgy work needed. It maintains the height which I prefer and comes with the boot and knob.

punch
11-01-2006, 06:26 AM
Looks a little different... excuse the blurry picture, camera phone.

2089

My buddy actually just hacked a center section out of my stock shifter with an air saw and welded the pieces back together at an angle. My short shifter cost me a 12 pack... haha.

umm that ain't a short shifter, the purpose of a short throw shifter is to reduce the amount the shifter has to travel to shift gears, the pivot points are relocated in a "real short shifter", which requires less travel distance.

ChinoCharles
11-01-2006, 11:22 AM
The throw is shorter.

riceboy
11-01-2006, 11:33 AM
I would rather keep the stock height.... dropping it will make it way too low... at least for me....

Katana
11-01-2006, 01:09 PM
Well I would like to reduce the distance between gear changing.

pxpaulx
11-01-2006, 01:10 PM
umm that ain't a short shifter, the purpose of a short throw shifter is to reduce the amount the shifter has to travel to shift gears, the pivot points are relocated in a "real short shifter", which requires less travel distance.

That may be true, but simply shortening the length of the shifter does create a shorter distance of travel at the shift knob's highest point (which is where you are grabbing the shifter).

Think of it like two lines coming to a point - the point being the base of the shifter. if the two lines are longer, there is a greater distance between the end points that are opposite to the shared point. shorten the lines, shorten the distance.

SmellyTofu
11-01-2006, 03:43 PM
I think the point of a SS is reduce the throw, BUT maintain height and the force necessary to move the lever between gears. By cutting the rod will reduce the throw but increase the effort needed to move between gears.

ChinoCharles
11-01-2006, 03:44 PM
I want that boot... where did you get it?

pxpaulx
11-01-2006, 03:50 PM
I think the point of a SS is reduce the throw, BUT maintain height and the force necessary to move the lever between gears. By cutting the rod will reduce the throw but increase the effort needed to move between gears.

That makes total sense - with a lowered shift knob you'll end up with a bad back!

ChinoCharles
11-01-2006, 04:04 PM
Its true... the amount of force necessary to shift is still the same. Will a shifter bushing kit from TWM help with that? Or the C-ONE clutch line?

SmellyTofu
11-01-2006, 04:25 PM
I want that boot... where did you get it?

Comes with the TRD SS kit.

riceboy
11-01-2006, 06:19 PM
pricing???

KSIbucky
11-01-2006, 06:28 PM
in a sports car they keep the shifter height wise low and sorry but this is just an everyday car and the way you sit in the car it would just work better if you just had a short throw not just a short shift rod deal thing

ChinoCharles
11-01-2006, 10:07 PM
Metal bushings will make the shifts more postive, stiffer and easier to get into gear, rather than the rubbery stock feeling...

The TRD Quickshift includes the bushings...

The TRD is a true "quick" shifter, it changes the fulcrum: the angle at which the lever engages the gears, making throws shorter and more direct, while maintaining the stock height, and not requiring more effort to shift into gear...The TRD also includes the entire assy so that you don't have to cannibalize your stock shifter...

The TWM also changes the fulcrum to allow shorter throws, but also shortens the shifter length, which has no bearing on the shortness of throws...A shorter shaft will increase the effort required to shift the car into gear as well...The TWM is only the lever and not the cage...+ bushings seperately...

Ultimately, they are both quality pieces of kit, it really depends on what you are looking for with your swap...

If my shifter was any shorter I'd have to lean forward to shift the car which is pointless...

Cheers

Thank you echo_hrs! I got it now... I was kind of confused when I saw the TRD shifter on the web because it had the whole cage, while TWM's shifter online looked like just a . Basically, we (monster garaged, ghetto rigged... whatever you want to call it) TWM's product. When it snaps in two I'll post about it, don't worry.

I'll be buying the bushings from TWM soon.

03Z33
11-01-2006, 11:21 PM
Here's a link to the one on the TRD site:

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_quickshift.html

I believe it's the same as the old Vitz/Echo (NCP10) even though it doesn't say so on that link above... can anyone confirm?

I like having my shifter sit real high... so I don't have to reach at all from my seat. I added a tall bubble shift knob (8" tall) and it feels great, only issue is the throw is a bit long now and the shifter isn't weighted so it took a little getting used to. I think this knob with the TRD assembly would be a perfect match for me.

SmellyTofu
11-02-2006, 12:32 AM
It would not be the same gearshift as the NCP1x to NCP9x. From my experience, the NCP1x is much shorter and much more notchy.

bigsky2
11-02-2006, 02:12 AM
Yeah, so my question is..

Where can we source the TRD quickshift kit?

xfatefailsx07
11-02-2006, 03:08 AM
i have the TWM short shifter, and regarding the height... there is only roughly a 2 inch drop or so. Overall the shifter is awesome, just not too much a difference in hieght. That TRD is pretty nifty if i may say so.

riceboy
11-02-2006, 10:55 AM
smelly tofu got the part #???

SmellyTofu
11-02-2006, 04:28 PM
You might find that the my SS is for RHD (if you notice the clutch pedal in the picture) and most likely the gear lever not leaning to the left. You are better off finding something from TRD USA rather than TRD Japan.

SmellyTofu
11-02-2006, 04:34 PM
Part number is here anyway if you need it...

http://www.trdparts.jp/parts_quickshift.html

http://www.trdparts.jp/image/p_quickshift-vitz.jpg
33530-NP900

bigsky2
11-02-2006, 06:53 PM
Me Likes.

riceboy
11-02-2006, 11:15 PM
so no compatibility???? damn it.... it looks sweet, and i'm sure will add that much more fun to the car...

SmellyTofu
11-03-2006, 04:34 AM
You can try... at your cost.

riceboy
11-03-2006, 11:26 AM
lol.. yeah except I don't want a pointless mod....

03Z33
11-03-2006, 12:11 PM
I can look up the stock North American shifter assembly part number today. Can anyone help us find out the stock Japanese spec part number?

riceboy
11-03-2006, 12:55 PM
I think smelly tofu already provided it...

33530-NP900

03Z33
11-03-2006, 11:56 PM
That's the TRD part # which won't match up with the OEM stock part #. We would need the stock JDM shifter part # to check and see if it might be the same as the North American spec part.