So here's my 25K service.

[captainm27]

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$37.25 for an oil change. Is that a high price?

[Red Horse]

yea

[Vang]

same as jiffy lubes here where i live

[SilverBack]

Oil change only is usually about $20-25, but you still got a decent deal with all the other stuff they did for you

[yaris-me]

Not by a dealer. It cost me $34 to do my own.

[kac]

not a horrible price, but of course would have been cheaper to do it yourself...

[ddongbap]

Doing it yourself requires time. Time is money. Just because you can do it yourself, doesn't necessarily mean you're saving cash. Even though, for most people it does.

[MUSKOKA800]

5 quarts of oil? Where did they put it all?

3.9 US quarts is the fill with new filter.

Below is copied from the 2007 Owners Manual, my 2008 is the same:

ENGINE LUBRICATION
Oil capacity (drain and refill), L (qt., Imp.
qt.):
With filter 3.7 (3.9, 3.3)
Without filter 3.4 (3.6, 3.0)
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” is used in
your Toyota vehicle. Use Toyota approved
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent
to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.

[ddongbap]

5 quarts of oil? Where did they put it all?

3.9 US quarts is the fill with new filter.

Below is copied from the 2007 Owners Manual, my 2008 is the same:

ENGINE LUBRICATION
Oil capacity (drain and refill), L (qt., Imp.
qt.):
With filter 3.7 (3.9, 3.3)
Without filter 3.4 (3.6, 3.0)
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” is used in
your Toyota vehicle. Use Toyota approved
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent
to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.

LOL! 5 QUARTS!!!!

[DerFlosser]

One thing is for sure...Toyota isn't going to let oil drain as long as I do and even 3.5 quarts is pushing it on an oil change. Quoting 5 quarts is ridiculous....

[MUSKOKA800]

Quoting 5 quarts is ridiculous....

Quote! That looks like an invoice to me. :eyebulge:
IMO charging for 5 quarts while providing 3.9 is criminal !
An oversight no dought, but an inexcusible one.

[41magmag41]

5 qts is for the generic special of an oil change from a dealer. I brought this to my dealers attention and they said the computer doesnt put specific quart amounts for each car and the 5 qts was a generic amount to cover all the cars they service with their oil change specials.

[41magmag41]

just an after thought. My oil change specials through my dealer ususally runs about 24.50 on special with a coupon which I get about every 5000 miles. Not to bad in this day and age.

[MUSKOKA800]

5 qts is for the generic special of an oil change from a dealer. I brought this to my dealers attention and they said the computer doesnt put specific quart amounts for each car and the 5 qts was a generic amount to cover all the cars they service with their oil change specials.

Oh, never mind then! (Gilda Radner (charactor: Rosanne Rosanadana) Sat. Night Live (when is was good))

[EleKid]

It costs me around $24 to do an oil change myself, with really good Mobil 1 fully synthetic oil. And takes 10-15 minutes if you work fast

[SilverGlow]

Doing it yourself requires time. Time is money. Just because you can do it yourself, doesn't necessarily mean you're saving cash. Even though, for most people it does.

Your comment makes little sense.

So waiting for your turn at JippyLube, or the dealship is saving time and money?

If you are worried about time and money, you'd change the oil yourself, and have it done in less time on most occassions.

And while you're waiting for Jippy Lube to get to your car, there you are waiting and doing little productive.

To save time and money do it yourself.

In addition, for the price Jippy and dealerships charge for convetional oil, you can do it yourself and use synthetic and since synthetic oil can be use 50% to 100% longer intervals, you save money there too because you perform less oil changes.

[nemelek]

With a coupon and rebate I was able to get a few cases of Castrol GTX 5w30 for 99cents/quart from Checker Auto Parts. Another coupon from Toyota I bought their oil filters for $3.99 each. Each oil change costs me 8 bucks and I know that I put the right amount in every time.

Also I rotate the tires on each 5000 mile service. I haven't timed the process but I am sure it takes well under an hour.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Doing it yourself requires time. Time is money. Just because you can do it yourself, doesn't necessarily mean you're saving cash. Even though, for most people it does.


So somehow you think it takes more time to do it yourself? I guess if you don't know what you are doing or you live next to an oil change place and there's never a line...

[IllusionX]

this is weird... Actually, i've never did regular oil change at a toyota dealer..

My echo always had mobile1 oil change at every 5000miles/8000km. I did it myself all the time.

With the yaris, i never really had that much time to spend on it when i first got my car.. so i had it done at the dealer.. mobile1 also... here's what it says... (sorry, it's in french! :) ) And ignore the key, i bought a spare key at that time...

[AlexNet0]

So somehow you think it takes more time to do it yourself? I guess if you don't know what you are doing or you live next to an oil change place and there's never a line...

It takes me more time to do it myself, because there are no lines at the quick change drive through I go to sometimes, and while im waiting the 5 minutes they take to do it (absolute tops), I can be on the phone with customers.

its worth to me the extra 6 dollars.

[ddongbap]

Your comment makes little sense.

So waiting for your turn at JippyLube, or the dealship is saving time and money?

If you are worried about time and money, you'd change the oil yourself, and have it done in less time on most occassions.

And while you're waiting for Jippy Lube to get to your car, there you are waiting and doing little productive.

To save time and money do it yourself.

In addition, for the price Jippy and dealerships charge for convetional oil, you can do it yourself and use synthetic and since synthetic oil can be use 50% to 100% longer intervals, you save money there too because you perform less oil changes.

15 minutes takes care of oil, filter, and disposal.

If theres a line, you can always go to the 1092309123 locations in So-Cal.

It takes me more time to do it myself, because there are no lines at the quick change drive through I go to sometimes, and while im waiting the 5 minutes they take to do it (absolute tops), I can be on the phone with customers.

its worth to me the extra 6 dollars.

My point exactly. It works better for him.

Now, granted I sometimes go to Jiffy Lube just cause I'm just lazy. And now I'm running Neo oil, and I don't plan to EVER do an oil change anymore. (It was a joke. Stop your qqing.)

Lol. "Jippylube". Cute.

[DerFlosser]

Your comment makes little sense.

So waiting for your turn at JippyLube, or the dealship is saving time and money?

If you are worried about time and money, you'd change the oil yourself, and have it done in less time on most occassions.

And while you're waiting for Jippy Lube to get to your car, there you are waiting and doing little productive.

To save time and money do it yourself.

In addition, for the price Jippy and dealerships charge for convetional oil, you can do it yourself and use synthetic and since synthetic oil can be use 50% to 100% longer intervals, you save money there too because you perform less oil changes.

100% correct.

[ddongbap]

100% correct.

Thats purely opinion.

[supmet]

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

[ddongbap]

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

Though that may be true, the warmer your engine is, the faster the oil will exit your car.

Id assume that if you've been doing oil changes at the right intervals, a little left over won't matter.

[supmet]

That again, is an opinion. Even tho its pretty narrow minded and very qqish.

Did you just find the urban dictionary definition of qq? Its like your favorite phrase these days.. Kinda makes you sound like the kids I play on counter strike.

Expand my mind and tell me how leaving more dirty oil in your engine, and paying more for this service is a good thing.

edit: I see by your ninja edit you realize how dumb saying qq is... lol

edit edit: your ninja edit makes a good point though... in the real world, most jiffy lube places/ dealerships will have a car or 2 ahead of you... IF you are lucky enough to make it out in 15 minutes(the 1% demographic) you are right. But those that sit 15 minutes before their car even goes in, the oil is colder, and even less oil comes out.

[ddongbap]

Did you just find the urban dictionary definition of qq? Its like your favorite phrase these days.. Kinda makes you sound like the kids I play on counter strike.

Expand my mind and tell me how leaving more dirty oil in your engine, and paying more for this service is a good thing.

edit: I see by your ninja edit you realize how dumb saying qq is... lol

edit edit: your ninja edit makes a good point though... in the real world, most jiffy lube places/ dealerships will have a car or 2 ahead of you... IF you are lucky enough to make it out in 15 minutes(the 1% demographic) you are right. But those that sit 15 minutes before their car even goes in, the oil is colder, and even less oil comes out.
You don't see. I ninja edited cause I didn't wanna come off mean. But oh well.

Anyways, if you change your oil enough, then whatever oil you have left will just be drowned out by your new oil. No matter how long you wait, theres no way you can get every single drip of oil out of your car. So you saying what you said is kinda dumb. Oil will be in the car. It will just be mixed with the new oil, then drained again at your next oil change interval.

You missed the part about how I said theres nearly a Jiffy Lube around every corner. You can also keep your engine on. And you've no actual proof that theres a 1% demographic. And don't tell me that isn't true. You're in Socal also. You've seen them.

So lets just keep making stuff up, as well as assume that I found something "Dumb".

BTW, QQ is a World of Warcraft term. Where the average player age is 28. So please, assume more. Makes you look ever awesome.

[ddongbap]

Anyways, I see your point in w/e you're saying. I just don't agree with it.

Idk why you're adding your opinions like "worse oil change" and stuff like that. Opinions are opinions. Unless you're going to come and prove to me that theres scientific proof that it is indeed worse, then idk.

Anyways, qq or not. gg.

[DerFlosser]

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

I agree with this...I usually let my oil for ATLEAST an hour and that's on a piping hot motor. Let it drain and do something productive....while getting a better oil change.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Do you think that by letting it drip for 30min to an hour you are getting all the old oil out of the motor? Hmmm... good one there. If you're a big baller try this... change your oil and, of course, let it drip drip drip for an hour. After completing the oil change with fresh oil, run your motor for a couple of minutes and then [insert dramatic drum roll here] drain your oil again. You may be surprised what you see in your oil drain pan...

[ddongbap]

Do you think that by letting it drip for 30min to an hour you are getting all the old oil out of the motor? Hmmm... good one there. If you're a big baller try this... change your oil and, of course, let it drip drip drip for an hour. After completing the oil change with fresh oil, run your motor for a couple of minutes and then [insert dramatic drum roll here] drain your oil again. You may be surprised what you see in your oil drain pan...

Might as well try to get an engine flush in there too. lol.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Now that's an idea...

[ddongbap]

Now that's an idea...

Might as well swap out the engine, since there may be oil inbetween the pistions you're going to miss. Damn that used oil.

[DerFlosser]

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

[ddongbap]

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

I was just epic scarcasticing it up

[RUFFSTUFF]

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

I get it... but barring any empirical data that says draining 3.900 quarts will provide longer, more reliable engine life than 3.884 quarts, I say the time is wasted... Maybe I have an understanding of the fact that everything in contact with the oil is going to have a film of the oil on it, and there will be small collections of oil in various points... maybe in a perfect world you could get all the oil out of the oil pan with extraordinary patience, but you're not going to get it out of the engine without some positive or negative pressure system connected. I've never personally broken down an engine into its component parts but I'm willing to bet that anyone who has, found oil in the engine somewhere.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Might as well swap out the engine, since there may be oil inbetween the pistions you're going to miss. Damn that used oil.


I say just get a new car every 3-5000 miles. Whoever buys the used car gets screwed because they will have to do 3 hour oil changes.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Kingsland co' reprezent yo.


English major? :w00t:

[ddongbap]

I say just get a new car every 3-5000 miles. Whoever buys the used car gets screwed because they will have to do 3 hour oil changes.

A new car should be timed out, by Toyota, and delivered to my driveway. I should be able to leave my old car on the sidewalk and have Toyota pick it up.

But then complain about how it lacks a tach, even though I've test driven one before I bought it.

[toad]

i change my own oil, but some people fail to add in the time it takes to purchase your oil and filters(i'm cheap and usually drive around to a couple places for the best deal) and taking your oil somewhere to have it properly disposed of. you don't have to do this everytime, obviously, but just saying that it's not fair to compare a quick change place to doing it yourself without adding in this 'time' factor. anyways, i usually do save money because i like to use synthetic, nice filters, and always look for the best deals.

[ddongbap]

i change my own oil, but some people fail to add in the time it takes to purchase your oil and filters(i'm cheap and usually drive around to a couple places for the best deal) and taking your oil somewhere to have it properly disposed of. you don't have to do this everytime, obviously, but just saying that it's not fair to compare a quick change place to doing it yourself without adding in this 'time' factor. anyways, i usually do save money because i like to use synthetic, nice filters, and always look for the best deals.

Totally true. You're just the other side of the Jiffy Lube idea. Your way works just as well for you, as it does for people who don't have time and pay for convenience. Or in my case, lazyness.

Man. A legit point on the other side of the spectrum. Why can't forum debates be like this?

[RUFFSTUFF]

A new car should be timed out, by Toyota, and delivered to my driveway. I should be able to leave my old car on the sidewalk and have Toyota pick it up.


Our new Mazda was delivered 45 miles to our house and they drove our trade away.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Why can't forum debates be like this?


There's no government regulation of who has access to a keyboard.

[ddongbap]

There's no government regulation of who has access to a keyboard.

Lets make another thread and complain about it.

[why?]

i change my own oil, but some people fail to add in the time it takes to purchase your oil and filters(i'm cheap and usually drive around to a couple places for the best deal) and taking your oil somewhere to have it properly disposed of. you don't have to do this everytime, obviously, but just saying that it's not fair to compare a quick change place to doing it yourself without adding in this 'time' factor. anyways, i usually do save money because i like to use synthetic, nice filters, and always look for the best deals.

and that is what keeps me from trying to change my own oil. Where do I recycle it? I assume an oil change pan can be had at any oil parts store. I'm tempted to try and do it, but this is me, and I would prolly mess it up somehow.

[ddongbap]

Our new Mazda was delivered 45 miles to our house and they drove our trade away.

But they should constantly do that when oil change time is approaching. For free, no less. And the car swap should be free too.

[JBougie]

My Toyota dealer charges $19.95 for their oil changes. That is where I go, it is $22.xx after taxes :) I love it.

[supmet]

I get it... but barring any empirical data that says draining 3.900 quarts will provide longer, more reliable engine life than 3.884 quarts, I say the time is wasted... Maybe I have an understanding of the fact that everything in contact with the oil is going to have a film of the oil on it, and there will be small collections of oil in various points... maybe in a perfect world you could get all the oil out of the oil pan with extraordinary patience, but you're not going to get it out of the engine without some positive or negative pressure system connected. I've never personally broken down an engine into its component parts but I'm willing to bet that anyone who has, found oil in the engine somewhere.

I say instead of bickering back and forth, next time I change my oil, I'll switch from an oil pan to a measuring cup after 5 minutes. I bet there will be more than half an ounce after 25 more minutes. I also have a feeling if you did a UOA of the first 5 minutes and one from the last 25, the last 25 would be considerably dirtier. I've seen some pretty dirty chunks fall out after 5 minutes.

Like I said, I'm not arguing Jiffy Lube any more. Its your car. Just don't read all the horror stories about wrong fluids and such. I'll continue getting a cheaper, and better(however marginally it may be) oil change.

and that is what keeps me from trying to change my own oil. Where do I recycle it? I assume an oil change pan can be had at any oil parts store. I'm tempted to try and do it, but this is me, and I would prolly mess it up somehow.

pour it in a jug from the last oil change and take it down to kragen

[RUFFSTUFF]

Lets make another thread and complain about it.



You first.

[RUFFSTUFF]

I've seen some pretty dirty chunks fall out after 5 minutes.



Maybe you should change your oil more often then... so instead of waiting 30 min, wait 15 and change it twice as often... Win, win. :thumbup:

[RUFFSTUFF]

But they should constantly do that when oil change time is approaching. For free, no less. And the car swap should be free too.

Hmmm.

[DerFlosser]

I get it... but barring any empirical data that says draining 3.900 quarts will provide longer, more reliable engine life than 3.884 quarts, I say the time is wasted... Maybe I have an understanding of the fact that everything in contact with the oil is going to have a film of the oil on it, and there will be small collections of oil in various points... maybe in a perfect world you could get all the oil out of the oil pan with extraordinary patience, but you're not going to get it out of the engine without some positive or negative pressure system connected. I've never personally broken down an engine into its component parts but I'm willing to bet that anyone who has, found oil in the engine somewhere.

No...you still don't get it. It's not time wasted because while it's draining you are doing something else like....cutting the grass, surfing internet porn, watching football, eating pizza, trimming the hedges. The list goes on. Any car guy you meet let's his oil drain as long as possible.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Right, then. Have fun cutting the grass you pizza eating, porn surfing, football watching, hedge trimming, special person you.

[ddongbap]

Right, then. Have fun cutting the grass you pizza eating, porn surfing, football watching, hedge trimming, special person you.

I don't think theres a point to keep debating. Apparently the Yaris is Rocket Science, and thus should be treated as such.

Debate should end like what toad said. He doesn't agree with us. He does it his way anyways. But he doesn't sit there and bash us personally. He sees OUR way, and we see HIS way. And we live on.

We must argue to understand, not to impose our own ideas onto others. Then wed be communist.

[chai]

Time is moot for me, it would probably actually take more time to go to the dealer or even a quick lube place - set up appointment (or not), wait around, wait around, wait... yeah.

I just ordered a case of OEM Toyota oil filters @ $4 ea and a OEM Toyota air filter for $12, as well as a TRD oil filter (out of curiosity) and a few drain plug gaskets for backup purposes. Did I mention Pennzoil Platinum synthetic is $20 for 5 quarts all day every day at my local Wal-Mart? I got it when the $15 mail-in-rebate deal was going on, so...

Yeah, even using the TRD filter on my next oil change, net cost is going to be < $15 in (superior) parts/oil.

[ddongbap]

Time is moot for me, it would probably actually take more time to go to the dealer or even a quick lube place - set up appointment (or not), wait around, wait around, wait... yeah.

I just ordered a case of OEM Toyota oil filters @ $4 ea and a OEM Toyota air filter for $12, as well as a TRD oil filter (out of curiosity) and a few drain plug gaskets for backup purposes. Did I mention Pennzoil Platinum synthetic is $20 for 5 quarts all day every day at my local Wal-Mart? I got it when the $15 mail-in-rebate deal was going on, so...

Yeah, even using the TRD filter on my next oil change, net cost is going to be < $15 in (superior) parts/oil.

Go superior that crap up. Thats why we're all driving Yarisisis. Since we're in the business to do business, and we lack time to do menial things, such as oil changes. Oh wait...

Btw, someone did research on the TRD oil filter. It seems to be one of the better oil filters available.

And Penzoil syn oil being superior? Nice.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Go superior that crap up. Thats why we're all driving Yarisisis. Since we're in the business to do business, and we lack time to do menial things, such as oil changes. Oh wait...

Btw, someone did research on the TRD oil filter. It seems to be one of the better oil filters available.

And Penzoil syn oil being superior? Nice.


We have a Yaris because it was cheap and it looked decent and it will probably last 4-5 years. Our teenager drives it. Next.

[ddongbap]

We have a Yaris because it was cheap and it looked decent and it will probably last 4-5 years. Our teenager drives it. Next.

Haha. I was being super scarcastic.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Haha. I was being super scarcastic.



Sweet... just like me. :laugh:

[ddongbap]

Sweet... just like me. :laugh:

Hey man, I'm supporting your program 110%.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Hey man, I'm supporting your program 110%.


:headbang:

[viborg]

WOW...only $34 for oil changing. I Denmark it will cost around $70-80....So, cry me a...