Ford Fiesta brings its A-game to the B-segment. USDM Fiesta specs announced

[Thirty-Nine]

Well it looks like Ford should have a winner on its hands with the Fiesta.

119 hp, 109 ft./lbs. or torque
5-speed manual or 6-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox
30 mpg city, 40 mpg highway (with automatic)

Pretty impressive.

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2009/12/ford-brings-its-game-to-b-segment-usdm.html

[YarisSedan]

Personally i think they should have changed the name to something cooler sounding. Many people may shy away from it because they dont want to be known as driving a ford fiesta. They dont have the highest reputation as a "cool" car. Hopefully this might change that image a bit.

[yaris-me]

Looks good, 119 HP and 40 MPG. What's the price? :smile:

[specialeducator]

Well it looks like Ford should have a winner on its hands with the Fiesta.

119 hp, 109 ft./lbs. or torque
5-speed manual or 6-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox
30 mpg city, 40 mpg highway (with automatic)

Pretty impressive.

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2009/12/ford-brings-its-game-to-b-segment-usdm.html

I agreed until I read that US models will be built in Mexico

[DevilGirl]

I agreed until I read that US models will be built in Mexico

Many cars sold in the US are built in Mexico. And I do mean MANY.

[hachi-roku_fan]

Many cars sold in the US are built in Mexico. And I do mean MANY.

Yea, that's why I think it's funny when people say, "Buy American because it's made in the good ol US of A Woooooo hooooooo *gun fires in the air*" when a lot of American cars are built elsewhere, meanwhile Toyotas has some of it's cars actually built in their plant in Kentucky lol

But really why is it a big deal? Globalization is the name of the game when it comes down to international business. Cheaper labor = lower means of production = higher profits

On Topic: Ive seen a few of them running around downtown LA, they look a bit weird to me, and I'm curious to see the real world MPG

[Slitwrist Smile]

Personally i think they should have changed the name to something cooler sounding. Many people may shy away from it because they dont want to be known as driving a ford fiesta. They dont have the highest reputation as a "cool" car. Hopefully this might change that image a bit.



lol.. fiesta means PARRTAYYY in spanish.. so its like driving a party :)

[slothman86]

I'm gonna do some comparative research between the Yaris and the Fiesta...

Weight lbs
Fiesta 2380
Yaris LB 2330

Hp/ft lbs
Fiesta 115/?
Yaris LB 106/103

Dimensions (length x width x height)
Fiesta 156.0 x 68.0 x 58.5 in
Yaris LB 150.6 x 66.7 x 60.0

Wheel Base
Fiesta 98.0 in
Yaris LB 96.9

Hp/Weight Ratio
Fiesta 0.0483
Yaris LB 0.0454

Price
Fiesta ???12,000?
Yaris LB 12,355 Start

MPG
Fiesta 30/40 (we'll see)
Yaris LB 29/36



some more up to date specs...
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Fiesta_Specs.pdf

[darthbauer]

Saw some of these on a transporter on the 5 fwy couple of weeks ago.

[kustom play]

Ford also claims the PowerShift six-speed operates with sealed internal lubrication, making it maintenance-free. That means you'll never have to check or change transmission over the vehicle's expected 10-year, 150,000-mile lifespan.

that makes me never want to buy a ford

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/02/2011-ford-fiesta-for-america-revealed-hits-40-mpg/

[thebarber]

Ford also claims the PowerShift six-speed operates with sealed internal lubrication, making it maintenance-free. That means you'll never have to check or change transmission over the vehicle's expected 10-year, 150,000-mile lifespan.

that makes me never want to buy a ford

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/02/2011-ford-fiesta-for-america-revealed-hits-40-mpg/

bah, you have pink wheels, what do you know?

id rock one

longer, wider, and lower than a yaris....better power/weight AND 30/40

yep, id hit it

[supmet]

What's the price?

+1 anyone have actual data? edmunds says starting at 15 something.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Too bad you can't get this car in the States... well at least as far as Fords go...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0902_2010_ford_focus_first_drive/index.html

[kustom play]

bah, you have pink wheels, what do you know?

id rock one

longer, wider, and lower than a yaris....better power/weight AND 30/40

yep, id hit it

and all that will be great when the car dies

[RUFFSTUFF]

and all that will be great when the car dies


All cars die eventually.

[hachi-roku_fan]

Yea but not at 150k miles lol NA rotories can do better than that

[specialeducator]

Many cars sold in the US are built in Mexico. And I do mean MANY.

Not mine

[kustom play]

Yea but not at 150k miles lol NA rotories can do better than that

im glad there are a bunch of you who agree because thebarber is PMing about my "negitive comment" lol

[ozmdd]

im glad there are a bunch of you who agree because thebarber is PMing about my "negitive comment" lol

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't get what basis you have for speculating that the fiesta will "die" any sooner than other cars. Pretty much every brand of modern car on the road - other than Chrysler passenger cars - seem to be capable of 200k+ miles with reasonable maintainence.

The last 5 years or so of Ford motors have been as good as any, and I am a long-time Ford hater.

That being said, if they decide to bring the European Fiesta RS to the US, I'll probably be selling my Yaris. The Top Gear "test" sold me!

[kustom play]

did you bother to read that article i posted?

i like the design, it looks good but not when its only rated for 150K

for toyota / honda 150K is still low miles

[darthbauer]

Too bad you can't get this car in the States... well at least as far as Fords go...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0902_2010_ford_focus_first_drive/index.html

No, the STI will have to do. Probably around the same price as one and not a Ford.

[2006fronty]

+1 anyone have actual data? edmunds says starting at 15 something.

$13,320 for the sedan, and $15,120 for the hatchback. I think they're pretty good looking, but can get a little pricy ($20,540 as shown :eek:.)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fiesta/

[slothman86]

bah, you have pink wheels, what do you know?

id rock one

longer, wider, and lower than a yaris....better power/weight AND 30/40

yep, id hit it

that's estimated 30/40

bigger isn't always better

[yaris-me]

It looks like Ford has a better chance of surviving than GM.:clap:

[why?]

of course they do, ford didn't take a government bribe.

[RUFFSTUFF]

That's because the got lucky with a few choices they made previous to the fallout. It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...

[why?]

That's because the got lucky with a few choices they made previous to the fallout. It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...

Lucky? It didn't have too much to do with luck. Ford was smart enough not to have a gazillion different car brands, and even more dealers. Plus ford cars have always been slightly better than gm or chrysler. And that F150 thing helps too. How many years straight has it been the top selling vehicle?

[RUFFSTUFF]

And that F150 thing helps too. How many years straight has it been the top selling vehicle?


Ford didn't take a bailout because they have been living out of a nearly $27 billion credit account they set up in 2006 and were already closing dealers and cutting production prior to the collapse. So, yes, they are brilliant for taking out loans, closing dealers, cutting production and firing many, well ahead of their competition.

[wooverstone8]

You can build your own Ford Fiesta here:

http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/2011-Ford-Fiesta

[counterfiend]

The price is a bit higher though. I built one on the ford site and it was right at 19. But that was pretty much every option i could ever think about wanting.

But then agian. Building the yaris as close as I could to the same it came out to 18.5 and couldnt even get a manual in the 5 door. So.
yeah.

[kngrsll]

i saw one of these at an autox while i was in detroit michigan. the suspension is nearly IDENTICAL to the yaris. front strut, rear twist beam.

[hachi-roku_fan]

Saw it in person at the Auto Show, was more impressed with the Mazda2

[Kal-El]

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fiesta/

:thumbsup:

This car really impresses me. In fact, Ford is beating all expectations with every model it introduces. I can't see myself ever leaving Toyota, but if Ford keeps doing what it's doing, they'll be hard to resist.

If that 30/40 mpg rating holds up through the EPA testing, then this is a game changer for non-hybrids. The Yaris is the current leader with a 29/36 rating (although it's underrated) but I suspect like most cars, the Fiesta will beat EPA estimates as well. It's that 6th gear that makes all the difference. Toyota needs to follow suit.

The interior quality sets a new standard for this class as well currently set by the Fit. Although space efficiency isn't as good as the Fit, Yaris, and Versa.

My only lagging concern with Ford is long term reliability (Toyota and Honda level). You know, being able to go 300,000-400,000 miles on the original engine with little issues. If they can prove that, then their set.

[markitect]

It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...

Actually in the months prior to the banking crisis Ford took out loans on several plants and technical centers, to increase cash on hand, making government loans unnecessary.

I don't think it was luck that made them suddenly decide to stock up on millions in cash.

Maybe when your good enough you don't have to brag.

[Kal-El]

Sadly, even though Ford is doing the best, they have the most debt to overcome because they avoided bankruptcy. Although GM is close if you count bailout money that they say they will pay back.

[BluYrs]

There's no arguing the new Fiesta is a nice car and obviously Ford has put much thought into this. Afterall, it is a blooming segment and Ford wants in as once a very strong contender in this segment with the Fiesta. In the meantime, others have passed it in terms of quality, design and features, but I think the Fiesta could bring Ford back into the small car game.

[marcus]

price wise ..almost the same as the yaris..i calculated about $21700 cnd vs yaris rs $21400 i believe with extra cruise control though.. on the road

reminds me of the mercedes b200