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cdydjded
12-08-2009, 06:36 PM
Just received an email from Boomslang, they have PNP harness's for the Emanage & AEM FIC, Retail $499.00. :smile: The also mentioned that the Yaris & the 08 xB share the same ecu plugs.
cali yaris
12-08-2009, 07:24 PM
A year too late for me, but that is good news!
Nexus1155
12-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Not trying to rain on your parade or bash this harness, but is it really logical to spend ***$500*** when the unit itself is around $500, When all this is is like $15 worth of connectors and $10 worth of wiring and some useage of your brain to connect wires together?
Seems like a steep price to pay when you can make it for 1/10th the price :(
cdydjded
12-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Not trying to rain on your parade or bash this harness, but is it really logical to spend ***$500*** when the unit itself is around $500, When all this is is like $15 worth of connectors and $10 worth of wiring and some useage of your brain to connect wires together?
Seems like a steep price to pay when you can make it for 1/10th the price :(
Comments like yours, thoughtless & negative are the reasons major companies do not support the Yaris community. Yes $500 is alot of money, but you have to consider that Boomslang has to make a return of there investment. They took the time to do all the reaserch & spent money to put out a new product that no one has been able to make. Eventually as the demand goes up on the product the price will go down. So instead of assuming that the connectors cost $15, which they dont, and claim to be able to make the same product for 1/10th of the price, you should try to make your statements a fact before commenting so negativly on something you know absolutly nothing about.
PETERPOOP
12-08-2009, 10:12 PM
hmm *thinks about his emanage laying in his room with a universal harness that isn't plug and play...*
heeroyuy01195
12-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Not trying to rain on your parade or bash this harness, but is it really logical to spend ***$500*** when the unit itself is around $500, When all this is is like $15 worth of connectors and $10 worth of wiring and some useage of your brain to connect wires together?
Seems like a steep price to pay when you can make it for 1/10th the price :(
Actually that's about right for a jumper harness.
hmm *thinks about his emanage laying in his room with a universal harness that isn't plug and play...*
Wait, what? You aren't on stand alone yet? wow.
PETERPOOP
12-08-2009, 11:41 PM
i'm on the blitz piggy back fuel controller. i have a greddy emanage ultimate, but not installed yet.
Nexus1155
12-09-2009, 12:38 AM
Comments like yours, thoughtless & negative are the reasons major companies do not support the Yaris community.
Yeah, someones either a nutswinger of the company or either on their period this week, any moron with half a brain can see that that is outrageously overpriced when all of their other products are priced around $299.99, why is it so hard to look at the manual of the emanage and get their pinout and match it with the yaris pinout in the DIY section?
I mean it took me all of ten minutes it took me to do it to see if an XA ECU would work on a Yaris so we can use DBC. Please O.P. don't make this into a bashing contest or I'll get my bashing posse!!!(ie: Tamago)
If they think yaris owners will are idiots and will spend money on overpriced objects i should just start selling electronic fans that double as turbo kits, I'd make a killing....
If you have money to throw around and don't want to make it yourself, then yeah sure why not, but im looking out for the community as a whole and to say to people "hey, this is something that IS DIY"
PETERPOOP
12-09-2009, 02:08 AM
And those JDM PnP should work
cdydjded
12-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Nexus1155:
Yeah, someones either a nutswinger of the company or either on their period this week,
Im neither, I just find your ignorance amazing
any moron with half a brain can see that that is outrageously overpriced when all of their other products are priced around $299.99,
What products? The ones that have been arond for 10 yrs? How much were they when they first came out?
why is it so hard to look at the manual of the emanage and get their pinout and match it with the yaris pinout in the DIY section?
Go for it Einstein!
I mean it took me all of ten minutes it took me to do it to see if an XA ECU would work on a Yaris so we can use DBC.
Well go for you! But it should have only taken 1 minute to figure that out since the Yaris is DBW & the xA is DBC
Please O.P. don't make this into a bashing contest or I'll get my bashing posse!!!(ie: Tamago)
Bring it on, Tamago is not the all mighty all knowing
If they think yaris owners will are idiots
Just some of them are
If you have money to throw around and don't want to make it yourself
No I dont have the $ & no I cant do it myself as good as a company who only does harnesses
but im looking out for the community as a whole and to say to people "hey, this is something that IS DIY"
A better way of looking out for this forum is to not only look @ only the cost of a product but also the products features, benifits. You could also not throw up the "it to expensive flag" without any other comparable product on the market
cdydjded
12-09-2009, 11:46 AM
I contacted Greddy/Trust asking if I could order their JDM Vitz NCP91 PnP harness for the eManage, and they said any of their dealers could; they just haven't tested it on a USDM Yaris...It's also only about $200...
Cheers
I was in contact with Greddy also about the harness. From what I was told the harness is not sold seperatly, it comes with a eManage Ultimate. I even have the part # from Greddy 15510502, list price $905.00
cali yaris
12-09-2009, 12:06 PM
This is NOT something that is "DIY" for most of us. I would never attempt to make my own wiring harness, and I would happily pay $500 for a well-made one.
To presume that "anyone" can just go buy the parts, read diagrams, and make a robust, well-crafted wiring harness that the function of their car will depend on is not reasonable for most of us.
Should it be priced in line with their other products? Maybe. Depends on demand and quality. Make more = less expensive per. That's why we do Group Buys, right?
PETERPOOP
12-09-2009, 01:23 PM
Well they sell universal harnesses that are cheaper than plug and play, but you still have to wire it up yourself. That is what I got, and I'm not too excited to go out there and wire it up anytime soon. :(
Nexus1155
12-09-2009, 01:30 PM
Go for it Einstein!
Implying that I am too smart for this thread which is why I /quit
cali yaris
12-09-2009, 02:12 PM
^ Let's see, you call people "nutswinger", "on their period", and "moron", then quit the thread when someone refers to you as Einstein.
How about the namecalling just stops completely?
Geez.
PETERPOOP
12-09-2009, 02:38 PM
A typical tamago. Can dish it, but can't take it. lol
cdydjded
12-09-2009, 02:56 PM
:laughabove: So true, full of baseless non facts & negativity
cdydjded
12-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Implying that I am too smart for this thread which is why I /quit
You quit cause you cant handle facts! All you have is emotion & speculation to go on.
thebarber
12-09-2009, 04:18 PM
so is the boomslang set up for emanage ultimate or blue?
heeroyuy01195
12-09-2009, 04:25 PM
This is NOT something that is "DIY" for most of us. I would never attempt to make my own wiring harness, and I would happily pay $500 for a well-made one.
To presume that "anyone" can just go buy the parts, read diagrams, and make a robust, well-crafted wiring harness that the function of their car will depend on is not reasonable for most of us.
Should it be priced in line with their other products? Maybe. Depends on demand and quality. Make more = less expensive per. That's why we do Group Buys, right?
I agree, I've tried wiring in an AEM standalone on my AW11 and it was way more than I could handle. I didn't even get through half the pinouts before I called it quits and brought in a professional. It came out close to $400 for the one-off, custom jumper harness but it was well worth it as the harness came out 100x better than anything I could have made on my own. Granted the harness mentioned here is quite pricey, what do you expect when there's virtually no market for a jumper harness for a Yaris? Supply and demand.
cdydjded
12-09-2009, 05:29 PM
so is the boomslang set up for emanage ultimate or blue?
Im almost sure that they can make it for:
AEM FIC
eManage
eManage Ultimate
thebarber
12-10-2009, 09:45 AM
Im almost sure that they can make it for:
AEM FIC
eManage
eManage Ultimate
my only beef with boomslang is the price. it was the case w/ my matrix at the time and its the case now....
$500 compared to the price of other cars' harnesses? yikes.
jouna
12-10-2009, 01:42 PM
i'll just tap my harness the computer is gonna work the same with or without the stupid harness.same shit different toilet..."$500 toilet ill use the 500 bucks for a real mod
cali yaris
12-10-2009, 01:49 PM
You have to connect the aftermarket management to the ECU with wires. Whether or not you make it yourself, you need a wiring "harness", and for those of us who don't have the skill to make one, it is still a "real mod".
My respect goes to people who can do this kind of work.
I'm sad about the lack of tolerance on here for each other's projects and the way each of us reaches our goal with the car.
CASTREX
12-11-2009, 01:07 PM
Finally!!! This is great news!!!
Yes $499 is bit high... probably $399 would make it even more appealing.... but is all about volume! and about offer and demand. No one else makes this and probably no one else will ever do.
They need to make tooling in order to make the assembly of the harnesses cost effective, easy and error proof...
The tools worth $$$$ + design and R&D time.... OBVIOUSLY the first few units will be expensive. This is no Civic!!! They are not going to sell 100 harness in one year.
I'm sure that if we can find 10 people for a group buy we could easily bring the price down!!
Stop the hating!! This is a product for some people. Definitely NOT a DYI for me.
thebarber
12-11-2009, 03:00 PM
if you can get a GB going, id definitely consider it.
emails from earlier this year...
RE: harness question
From: Boomslang Fabrication (info@boomslang.us)
Sent: September 30, 2009 3:42:50 PM
To: 'adam barber' ()
We’d prefer to make a PNP harness for the AEM FIC harness for the Yaris. The cost would be $499 + shipping.
If you are dead set on the Ultimate, the cost would be around $550.
Regards,
Rustin W. Bernskoetter
Boomslang Fabrication
Phone 573.635.6656
Fax 573.635.6643
From: adam barber [mailto:barber]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:25 PM
To: info@boomslang.us
Subject: RE: harness question
How much is a custom harness?
--adam
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From: info@boomslang.us
To: barber
Subject: RE: harness question
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:16:23 -0500
We can custom make either.
Regards,
Rustin W. Bernskoetter
Boomslang Fabrication
Phone 573.635.6656
Fax 573.635.6643
From: adam barber [mailto:barber]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:17 AM
To: info@boomslang.us
Subject: harness question
do you make a harness extension for the 06+ toyota yaris? or one for a greddy emanage ultimate?
thanks
--adam
Brad D
12-11-2009, 03:35 PM
well its not listed on the site and the Xb harness is 279$
AEM F/IC Plug & Play Harness
06-07 Scion xA/xB
for that price I would pick one up, now will you beable to tune with the F/IC with out this rich 02 reading? At a local shop they had a 08 TL and they had that O2 problem...
thebarber
12-11-2009, 05:46 PM
well its not listed on the site and the Xb harness is 279$
AEM F/IC Plug & Play Harness
06-07 Scion xA/xB
for that price I would pick one up, now will you beable to tune with the F/IC with out this rich 02 reading? At a local shop they had a 08 TL and they had that O2 problem...
08 xb...its the second gen..
Brad D
12-11-2009, 10:12 PM
I talked to them on the phone they told me its just one wire off from the XB, the XB has two sensor grounds for the cam and crank, the yaris shares them.
Tamago
12-12-2009, 01:59 PM
:laughabove::clap: Ur so smart!
it's how i wired my FIC
cdydjded
12-12-2009, 04:03 PM
I did it also the same way. But not everyone is willing to cut up there factory harness like us. So the PNP harness is an good option.
TheRealEnth
12-12-2009, 05:40 PM
crazy peeps
thebarber
12-14-2009, 01:20 PM
got this today:
RE: harness question
From: Boomslang Fabrication (info@boomslang.us)
Sent: December 14, 2009 11:41:44 AM
To: 'adam barber' (thebarber)
If you get an order of five together, we can do any of the following harnesses for $399 each:
-Emanage Blue
-Emanage Ultimate
-AEM FIC
-Standard extension (main plug only)
The payment would have to come from one source and we would have to ship all the harnesses to the same address.
Regards,
Rustin W. Bernskoetter
Boomslang Fabrication
Phone 573.635.6656
Fax 573.635.6643
From: adam barber [mailto:barber]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:27 AM
To: info@boomslang.us
Subject: RE: harness question
for me personally i was aiming to do an emanage blue
others may want emanage ultimate, the blitz fuel controller (for the blitz s/c), or even aem fic or other piggybacks
--adam
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From: info@boomslang.us
To: barber@
Subject: RE: harness question
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:23:07 -0600
Perhaps.
We offer two types of extensions. The standard type only extends the main large ECU plug. The main ECU plug contains nearly all important pinouts that one would find the need to tap into.
The full extension includes both the main and secondary plugs. This kind of extension does not fit well in the car due to limited space in the engine bay.
When we build FIC harnesses for this plug type, we only use the main plug. It contains all necessary pinouts to wire the FIC except ignition switched power, which we draw from the fuse box instead.
What were you wanting to wire into the car? I can advise on which extension would be best.
Regards,
Rustin W. Bernskoetter
Boomslang Fabrication
Phone 573.635.6656
Fax 573.635.6643
Tamago
12-14-2009, 02:42 PM
I did it also the same way. But not everyone is willing to cut up there factory harness like us. So the PNP harness is an good option.
did you actually ever get yours running? where are the videos/pix/dyno sheets?
calling BS on this btw.
PETERPOOP
12-14-2009, 03:15 PM
really?
cdydjded
12-14-2009, 04:05 PM
did you actually ever get yours running? where are the videos/pix/dyno sheets?
calling BS on this btw.
Yes I did get it to work. I did not know that the allmighty Tamago needed pix/videos/dyno sheets to get your stamp of approval. I call BS on you and every comment you make. You are a miserable person, add nothing constructive to this forum and I hope the moderators realize this one day and ban you. Your a troll! Get a life! I know Im not the only one here that thinks this. :mad:
cdydjded
12-14-2009, 04:09 PM
thebarber: $399 is a great deal. Lets see how many people step up. My thoughts is that few will.
PETERPOOP
12-14-2009, 06:34 PM
Yes I did get it to work. I did not know that the allmighty Tamago needed pix/videos/dyno sheets to get your stamp of approval. I call BS on you and every comment you make. You are a miserable person, add nothing constructive to this forum and I hope the moderators realize this one day and ban you. Your a troll! Get a life! I know Im not the only one here that thinks this. :mad:
:laughabove: :thumbup:
The Spectacle
05-19-2010, 05:01 PM
How come no one jumped on this? I'd be willing to go in on a harness for the AEM FIC
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