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kngrsll
11-03-2006, 11:24 AM
thanks mods! i think this will be a very useful forum for the boards (and i hope many will frequent it, lol).
so what is everyone's track or racing experience so far? is there anyone considering starting out?
this is from my previous introduction post:
my previous car was a '91 240s hatch that i had since i got out of high school (5 years or so). it was modded almost as soon as i bought it and went through many stages. i was considered pretty hardcore when it came to a street car, it had little to no emenities and was loud, hard, and generally uncomfortable. it was autocrossed heavily (about 12-15 events a year) for about 3 years, then i got into track events. i ran about 5 events a year the last two years and even instructed! :) i passed elise's, G35's, M3's, Subaru's, race prepped Camaro's, and much more! i enjoyed that quite a bit, lol!
so i grew out of that stage and decided to get to work and finish school. i had done two years and quit to race and party, and now i've been back in for a year or so. i love my little yaris though, its really a blast to drive! i cant wait to give it a shot on a circuit! im gonna do some light mods to up the fun factor but keep it pretty civil. i'm trying to decided what thing are necessary for me and go from there.
alright, here we go!
riceboy
11-03-2006, 11:25 AM
congrats...
eTiMaGo
11-03-2006, 12:12 PM
Awesome!
Now that means I will just HAVE to join the Yaris one-make races available here :biggrin:
kngrsll
11-03-2006, 12:23 PM
do they really have those there? i bet that would be pretty fun...
ChinoCharles
11-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Apexing egg... hahaha. I'm really glad to see this forum started, as I've always wanted to become involved in autox or other forms of more legal racing, but I don't really know where to start.
Teruyume
11-03-2006, 01:37 PM
this is coool, we should share all our race stories hahhaaa
kngrsll
11-03-2006, 02:47 PM
Apexing egg... hahaha. I'm really glad to see this forum started, as I've always wanted to become involved in autox or other forms of more legal racing, but I don't really know where to start.
well, autox is easy. you just find a region doing events, sign up, drive there and run! you really cant know too much until you do it and see. bring a helmet if you've got it, but run what you've got. dont try and set your car up unti you do it and then you begin to learn what you really need. i had to de-mod my 240 after starting to autox and then re-did almost the entire set up. it changed all the time! the two most important things for any thing like this, besides mad driving skill, is shocks and tires. those two will have alot of influence over the way the car drives. not that other things wont, but adjusting a driving set up, those two are critical.
03Z33
11-04-2006, 12:31 AM
Cool! I think most of you have seen my track review, if not here's a link:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1679
I've been to the track a few more times since, and I'm planning to do coilovers, LSD, and shorter gearing next which will make the car much better :thumbsup:
kngrsll
11-04-2006, 12:45 AM
yeah, i did see that... very incouraging! my ideal set up would include an LSD, but i've haven't gotten anywhere near that far yet. have you found any LSD/gearing info?? could you elaborate on your tire set up a little more though? i dont know what tire that is and where you could get those types of bridgestones. are you using two different compounds when you say Bridgestone RE555/540S for the front and rear then?
03Z33
11-04-2006, 09:19 AM
LSD:
KAAZ have them in stock, 1.5 way part #DBT-1621. $925 list.
www.kaazusa.com
TRD also offer one, 1.5 way part #41301-AW004. $900 list.
www.trdparts.jp
Final Drive:
I'm still researching part #'s but from what I can tell the stock North American car comes with 3.722 gearing. In Japan the RS-model comes with 4.312 and TRD offer 4.058 and 3.772 as options. I'd like to get the 4.312 from the stock Japan car, or I also found out that the US Scion Xa/Xb part # and the NCP10 Echo part #'s are different, but I haven't been able to find out what gearing they have yet.
http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_race-mis_ncp13.html TRD gears are ~ $470 and OEM are about the same.
I'll also fit a clutch and flywheel at the same time I upgrade the trans...
The tires I was running at the last few track days are a JDM tire that was never offered in the US, but it's comparable to the Yokohama Advan Neova A048, and the Kumho/Hoosier DOT R compounds.
You might also check out the new Nitto NT-01's and the Toyo RA1's for a good all around track tire that won't break the bank and will last a bit longer.
kngrsll
11-04-2006, 10:50 AM
those NT-01's are intresting, id probably give them a shot, they are pretty cheap for an R compound.
your lsd/gearing upgrade would really help our car, good luck with it! let us know if you do anything.
Black Yaris
11-04-2006, 11:00 AM
what size are ya'll runnin? I found when I went up to my 225/50VR15 BFG g-force sport I had much better launching and stopping, as well as taking corners like a go-kart
kngrsll
11-04-2006, 12:33 PM
i think im gonna run a 16x7 with a 205/50/16 tire. probably get the azenis 615.
Katana
11-04-2006, 01:18 PM
Here is a video from a trackday in Greece, in my new Yaris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mk3nUk3V0
jdmkenji
11-04-2006, 09:22 PM
Let me add to the original post as well:
previous cars: 96 Honda Integra, 95 Prelude 2.2vtec, 1985 AE86 Corolla...
Been autocrossing for 4 years (on and off), drifting and road racing for about 3 years and have just recently retired from doing this. I am hoping to get back in there again real soon with a new car!
I don't think i'll be racing the yaris anytime soon but i can see that it does have a lot of potential and hope to see more "tracked" yaris out there. right now i just see alot of pimping out their rides. Just remember to simply get out there and start doing it... you will never be "finished" modding your car or waiting for that tire or spring or suspension before you race. If its not your cup of tea then don't pretend that you're a racer talking like you know everything... if you like hard parking... thats fine too! i'm doing it right now :-)
Been to SEMA this last weekend (photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolinbox/sets/72157594358212979/)
There were quite a few yaris with supercharger and even turbo... i posted some pics here. Never saw a 5door hatch though.
good luck!
eTiMaGo
11-04-2006, 10:15 PM
Here is a video from a trackday in Greece, in my new Yaris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mk3nUk3V0
cool! even with "just" a 1.3 your Yaris looks and sounds quite zippy!
03Z33
11-04-2006, 10:15 PM
Here is a video from a trackday in Greece, in my new Yaris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mk3nUk3V0
Looking good! Looks like a fun course and NO TRAFFIC! :biggrin:
03Z33
11-04-2006, 10:52 PM
previous cars: 96 Honda Integra, 95 Prelude 2.2vtec, 1985 AE86 Corolla...
Kenji, You and Charlie should go back to driving Honduh's! Maybe that orange element thing :tongue: I always thought Charlie looked wierd in the S13 and Evo... maybe he belongs in that gold CRX :thumbsup: :brokenheart:
Tommy and JT are the last of the JD 86 heads :laugh:
Nice pics btw... how'd the Tein car look in person? did you see what was done to it? aero brand?
03Z33
11-05-2006, 01:10 AM
Finished my final drive gear ration research... I'll probably start a new thread when I have all the parts and #'s handy.
The Scion Xa/Xb uses the same C50 trans as our Yaris NCP91. The older Echo had a C150 trans which uses a slightly different bolt pattern, but internals are also very similar (if not same). Some people have also fitted the C60 and C160 tranmissions from Levin AE111 and Matrix Xrs, which are 6-speed trannies.
The only difference between Scion and Yaris trans is the final drive. Xa/Xb has 4.315 stock and Yaris has 3.722 stock. This means that we should be able to purchase the Scion ring gear and pinion gears (~$450) and swap them into our trans. Alternatively we can swap complete trannies with a Scion owner who is looking for better MPG or lower revs during cruise. I posted on Scionlife to see if anyones interested in swapping.
Also, TRD competition transmission gear set changes the ratios, theres two to choose from
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
Part number : 33030-EP752
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 3.200:1
2nd 2.359:1
3rd 1.850:1
4th 1.458:1
5th 1.167:1
hasher22
11-05-2006, 08:33 AM
yay
kngrsll
11-05-2006, 12:12 PM
sweet... it should be easy to find an xB tranny being there are as many as there are around.
Katana
11-05-2006, 03:41 PM
Looking good! Looks like a fun course and NO TRAFFIC! :biggrin:
cool! even with "just" a 1.3 your Yaris looks and sounds quite zippy!
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments!
JeffForSale
11-06-2006, 02:20 PM
cool! even with "just" a 1.3 your Yaris looks and sounds quite zippy!
my other car is only 1.3L, however it makes around 360 rwhp @ 15 psi :wink:
Katana
11-06-2006, 04:37 PM
What car is that?
Maybe a Mazda RX8?
JeffForSale
11-06-2006, 05:20 PM
rx-7, the engine exploded on a frigid cold, untuned night however
its under the knife right now :frown:
Katana
11-08-2006, 06:55 AM
Too bad!
kngrsll
11-08-2006, 09:03 AM
i had two Rx-7's, bought the first out of high school and the second in the winter after that. First was a black 91 Na, it had a bad motor but i paid $300 for the car! i suck about a grand in it and rebuilt the motor myself. it ran well for about 6 months and then blew up. next i bought a wrecked TII and tried to transplant it into the '91, but the TII was a series 4 and the '91 was a series 5 (same body style though) so i was screwed. sold everything, parted both cars out, and bought my 240 in the spring. had that car 5 years, but i missed my Rx7's.
JeffForSale
11-08-2006, 01:26 PM
i had two Rx-7's, bought the first out of high school and the second in the winter after that. First was a black 91 Na, it had a bad motor but i paid $300 for the car! i suck about a grand in it and rebuilt the motor myself. it ran well for about 6 months and then blew up. next i bought a wrecked TII and tried to transplant it into the '91, but the TII was a series 4 and the '91 was a series 5 (same body style though) so i was screwed. sold everything, parted both cars out, and bought my 240 in the spring. had that car 5 years, but i missed my Rx7's.
what was the problem? if you had a wrecked TII you would've had the complete wiring harness/longblock, you could've just swapped it in? :iono:
i miss my rx-7 too, its sitting here lookin like a rally car without an engine in it :frown:
i wish I had a s5, they're so incredibly sexy
Katana
11-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Sorry for the off-topic question, but can't you guys find any RX7 engine on ebay?
kngrsll
11-08-2006, 04:01 PM
what was the problem? if you had a wrecked TII you would've had the complete wiring harness/longblock, you could've just swapped it in? :iono:
i miss my rx-7 too, its sitting here lookin like a rally car without an engine in it :frown:
i wish I had a s5, they're so incredibly sexy
the chassis harness from the S5 doesnt match up to the S4 ecu. the ecu gets both the chassis and engine harness, so you need both S4 or S5 harnesses. and swapping the chassis harness to was a very tall order. i swapped both, but it never could get running right. so i parted both cars out and actually made money, so then i bought the 240. i really liked that car, its the car i learned everything on.
the changes from S4 -> S5 are very subtle but just enough to make the car ok to so hot.
JeffForSale
11-09-2006, 02:06 PM
Sorry for the off-topic question, but can't you guys find any RX7 engine on ebay?
are you looking for one? cant really trust em, because if they have low compression or is blown then you have to deal with shipping it back
the changes from S4 -> S5 are very subtle but just enough to make the car ok to so hot.
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