Fed up with rubbing... heres my plan

[Brentorius]

My current setup consists of OEM shocks with Tein S-tech springs, 17x7 +45 Team Dynamics with 205/40 tires, factory alignment. My ride height is 12.5" all around center of hub to fender.

I am getting rubbing in the front on almost every bump and it is really annoying. Turning at low speeds does not rub at all. The rear are fine even with a 12mm hub spacer.

My plan is to get an alignment with -2 camber and 0 toe in the front and from my calcs, I can move the upper outside edge of the tire ~.4" in. I have on the way: Tokico blues, TigerTec springs <a bit milder drop with a little higher spring rate in the front>, and a 23mm rear sway.

How does this sound? I have a lot of $$ invested in my rims and tires and want to keep them. The rims are really light <for 17's anyway>. I can switch to 195/45 tires and gain some width clearance there but lose some wheel well clearance <they are a little taller than the current tires>.

[Black Yaris]

wonder why you are rubbing? I ran 205/40R17's +45 allday on DF's with no problems

and once you get the tigertec springs there will be no need for the extra - camber or smaller tires

[Brentorius]

wonder why you are rubbing? I ran 205/40R17's +45 allday on DF's with no problems

and once you get the tigertec springs there will be no need for the extra - camber or smaller tires

Maybe the teins sag? IIRC stock height was measured at 15" hub to fender which would indicate a 2.5" drop with the Teins...

[RacerFreakXXX]

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

[blacksandiegovitz]

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

Not really an "insane drop" at all Imo and with the high offset on the wheels and not really wide tires at all all the "rubbing" is comming from the fender liners . Jack the car up , pull the stupid fender liners out and enjoy your car with no "rubbing" noises :rolleyes:

[ddongbap]

My signature is an insane drop.

[Brentorius]

Not really an "insane drop" at all Imo and with the high offset on the wheels and not really wide tires at all all the "rubbing" is comming from the fender liners . Jack the car up , pull the stupid fender liners out and enjoy your car with no "rubbing" noises :rolleyes:

Yes the fender liners are interfering; I am not going to pull the liners because this is my daily...

[Brentorius]

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

On the Tein website they are listed as 1.9 F&R for the 3-dr and 2.1/2.3 for the 5-dr

http://www.tein.com/price/toyota.html

[Black Yaris]

the DF's settled to closer to a 3 inch drop, so I really do not see how the Teins are having a problem

[blacksandiegovitz]

Yes the fender liners are interfering; I am not going to pull the liners because this is my daily...

Well if you don't want to address you problem then why did you ask the question :iono:
Fyi I don't see what not having fender liners has to do with your car being daily driven , I pulled my fender liners last year , slammed my ride on cusco coilovers and have not had a problem yet...and my car is daily driven

[cali yaris]

+1 no liners, daily driver here too.

But if he doesn't want to, that's ok. Do the springs and shocks first, then see if you have rubbing and need to do negative camber in the front. (OP mentioned the camber first, but I think that is out of order since he already has parts on the way).

You can also TRIM the liners only where they rub, keeping the rest intact.

[Brentorius]

Well if you don't want to address you problem then why did you ask the question :iono:
Fyi I don't see what not having fender liners has to do with your car being daily driven , I pulled my fender liners last year , slammed my ride on cusco coilovers and have not had a problem yet...and my car is daily driven

On previous cars, removing fender liners led debris and water in the engine bay or exposing wires and electronics to the elements. Maybe this is not a problem with the Yaris so i will consider it. More than 1 way of doing things and I just wanted to get some opinions.

Thanks for everyones input. I'll update when the new parts are installed.

[Tamago]

the camber will help a lot. and -2.0 isn't really that much, honestly. i've daily driven on -3.0 and flipped the tires once in their life cycle.. not too bad, and it sure turns nicely :D

[marlondog]

Just change out the shocks! I had the same problem. Those Tokico'z will do the job, and you won't need to change out everything. Put that extra cash away for a rainy day!

[Brentorius]

I trimmed the front fender liners a bit where they were rubbing. There is still rubbing, but not as frequent.

@marlondog I am going to try the tokico blues/tein springs first with slightly aggressive alignment (-1.5 camber 0 toe) and see how that goes. I really like the stance with the teins! If not, I am going to go with the slightly higher TigerTecs.

[yarr_is]

You can always ... roll the fenders and never worry about rubbing anymore. Even though you go wide on wheels =3

[marlondog]

Keep it Teinsta! I swithched to NF's for 2 weeks, but missed my green springs so bad. I put them back on, and the rub was gone.:eek:

I trimmed the front fender liners a bit where they were rubbing. There is still rubbing, but not as frequent.

@marlondog I am going to try the tokico blues/tein springs first with slightly aggressive alignment (-1.5 camber 0 toe) and see how that goes. I really like the stance with the teins! If not, I am going to go with the slightly higher TigerTecs.

[Arkhangel]

You can always ... roll the fenders and never worry about rubbing anymore. Even though you go wide on wheels =3

im running 215/45/17, rolled the rear fenders and still rubbing, i think its agains the screws holding the rear bumper, only rubs on deep dips, got
TRD's on the way hopefully will solve the issue

[cali yaris]

Rolling the fenders means removing the liner. I've done it, it buys a little bit of clearance but not much.

[Arkhangel]

my situation in the rear is the tire is about flush with the edge if the car and rear bumper

[cali yaris]

you could also use those washers in the rear for a little negative camber back there.

[Arkhangel]

you could also use those washers in the rear for a little negative camber back there.

Gonna see what happens when i install the TRD Springs

[puetato89]

, hmm, from what i remember, your shocks are non existant, making you slammed on the ground, you should probably get new shocks dude, not trying 2 me an ass, just making a suggestion

[PHXDEMON]

I am having rubbing issues as well. Too bad the tein shocks are so much money :(

[Brentorius]

I installed the Tokico blues and a 23mm rear sway today. Loads of improvement! The ride feels more "controlled" and firm over the bumps. With the trimming of the front fender liners I have 99% eliminated the rubbing. I am currently on a factory alignment and might do an slightly aggressive one soon (-1 to -1.5 camber w/ 0 toe).

I also did the rear suspension bolt relocation, and will report the rear alignment specs when I go next week.

[crolandiz]

Hi, I also have 215/45/17 and there is rubbing on the rear when I take 2-3 passengers on bumps.
Do you think it is good to roll/cut fenders? or better go to an alignment shop and get the rear camber?
What will happen when in the future I order MI Springs? Will this continue to be an issue?

[big lo]

Well I'm rolling on 18's with low profile tires 215/35 R18, I've been rubbing but what I did was cut the liner a bit and she is good, plus I got tokico blues and Tein spring, with only an inch of space from the tire from the fender, I was thinking about changing them but no, I love the drop and the feel.

[ilikerice]

You can also TRIM the liners only where they rub, keeping the rest intact.

im not running 17's but my yaris is pretty low now. i just trimed out the middle all the way to the next front and rear clips that hold the liner in place. i am just trying to keep my CAI as clean as possible so the dirt/mud doesnt coat my filter.. ill be running 225/45/15 here soon so i will need to roll the fenders as well

[big lo]

This will also depend if your rims are wider as well that would rubb until nothing is there

[alch3miss]

tein basic damper on mine.. 2 inches in the rear 1 3/4's in the front. I rubbed to the point where the under carriage near the top front is no longer there =(

[MUSKOKA800]

Simply adding the Tokico damper may solve your issue on all but the deepest dips taken at speed. But, you may as will do the camber change when the dampers are installed. All it'll cost is the price of the crash bolts.