$86.44 for oil change? I feel screwed

[behour]

I have no experience with vehicles. My yaris is the first new car I bought. I sadly feel often screwed. I went to get an oil change today and was charged 86.44 for it.

Here is my questions

It was full syntetic oil. Is this the best to get or should I avoid?
I was over charged...correct? It seems ridiculously high.
My bill looks something like this

Labor 33.84
Parts 48.20
Shop Material 1.35
Sales tax 3.05
Total 86.44


This is my 2nd oil change at 10,000 miles. My first oil change I asked for syntetic from another Toyota dealer and was only charged $41.45. I was not sure if I was given full synthetic oil even when told otherwise. I was charged with "lube synthetic oil for $10.00". The bill was not clear. I have had problems with the sales department so I tried another dealer. Looks like I should of just stayed with them for a $40 dollar change in price and a 20minutes extra drive.

Any opinions and help would be great for someone as clueless as me with cars. I just want to take the best care for it you know?

[JumpmanYaris]

WTF they fucked u over with this!!!!!

[blacksandiegovitz]

You over paid by about $20 Imo
I just switched over to syntetic and bought 4 x quarts of royal purple for $39 from pepboys and took the oil and the car to the toyota dealer and they charged $25 for oem toyota filter and labor .

[Brentorius]

That is ridiculous!

[kustom play]

wow 25 bucks

i get OEM toyota ones for 5.00 here, save 20 bucks and take 10 mins to do it yourself

[ezhacker1]

i pay my mechanic friend $20, toyota filter, not synthetic oil tho.

[DerFlosser]

You got raped....plain and simple. Seriously...oil changes on this car are sooooo easy.

[slothman86]

Yeah, there should be a thread to post on "if you think you are getting screwed"

YW will always guide you straight!

[JumpmanYaris]

This is the average price here with the cupon. with out it its like 5 bucks extra

[blacksandiegovitz]

You got raped....plain and simple. Seriously...oil changes on this car are sooooo easy.

No guff , but if your car is under warrenty you have to have your oil changed by a reputiable place to show a legit service record . But seriously guys if you buy 4 qts of royal purple thats 40 bucks right there +6-7 dollars for a oem toyota oil filter is still almost 50 bucks , this guy really didn't get reamed that bad . Fyi any oil change for at the bmw dealer is $130 minium and the volvo dealer charged my friend $190 for an oil change on his xc90 Lol

[yaris-me]

You were over charged for a simple oil change. It's so simple to DIY. It doesn't much effort to check the other things.

There are other places that are much more reasonable. Perhaps you should look around before your next change.

[hyprmiler]

My yaris is due for an oil change. I'm kind of afraid to do it being that it's a new car and I haven't done this model yet.

I think I'm going to wait till it's warmer out so I don't get cold and annoyed at the car.

I did however pick up a 5 quart jug of Mobile 1 and a Mobile 1 oil flter :wub:

Called the Toyota dealership and they said that it would only cost me 8 bucks for them to service it. It might be worth my trip.

Just can't stand being on my back, in the cold (under 15 degrees), and want to take my time and do this right.

/sigh

[YarisSedan]

The going rate for most shops is 60 and up for a fully synthetic oil change for up to 5 quarts of oil. Here in california ir ranges in the 70s.

Honestly there is zero markup on oil. Maybe 5 cents per quart. No mark up on oil filter maybe a dollar if were lucky. There is no profit for the shop. Most labor charges for oil change range from 15-30. So really you payed 30 verses 15-20 you might get at another shop. You didnt get reamed you just payed maybe slightly higher than what you could get at maybe another shop.

You factor the cost of shop material. I dont think thats unreasonable 1.35 that covers the cost of brake cleaner/parts wash to clean the oil residue when done draining. The rags to whipe up everything. Shop has to pay to have the oil filteres removed. Some shops if they are small still may pay to have the hazz fees to dispose of used oil.

They arnt making any profit really. Once you pay for the technician. There isnt any money leftover to pay for the rack time ie rent for the time they did your oil change. Reality yes you oculd pay 40 for the oil maybe 5 for the filter. And do it yourself. The you got to deal with cleaning up the mess. Finding someone to dispose of the oil and filter. Unless your the type of person who throws the old filter in the trash and poor the oil down the sink its goign to cost you money. Some places are willing to take it for recycle like kragens but not always.

To me its too much hassle. Sorry i get offended when i hear the word shop and ripping off cause i do manage a auto shop. They didnt rip you a new one that just charged appropiately for what the job is worth as opposed to another shop that may be willing to take more of a loss to bring customers in. Oil change is a lost leader.

[hyprmiler]

I just broke down and scheduled my first oil change on my Yaris. Too damn cold to be doing anything car related currently..... especially when you factor in that i've never changed the oil on this model.

[schleppy]

That is absolutely amazing. My oil changes cost me $25 and about 20 minutes.

Honestly man, learn to change your own oil. The Yaris is VERY easy to work on.

[Hershey]

wow :eek: , that's 3 oil changes using PENNZOIL Platinum or SHELL Full Synthetic along with a TOYO oil fliter if capable of doing it yourself .

[supmet]

but if your car is under warrenty you have to have your oil changed by a reputiable place to show a legit service record

Not true. DIY FTW

86 dollars is way overpriced.

There is markup on oil. If they aren't making profit at 85, how do they charge me 65(and still make a profit), and they aren't just doing it to bring customers in, its a going rate, at a lube only place... Auto zone made profit off me buying 5 qts pennzoil platinum and a mobil 1 filter for 27.99

[behour]

This is the average price here with the cupon. with out it its like 5 bucks extra


Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that.
That is absolutely amazing. My oil changes cost me $25 and about 20 minutes.

Honestly man, learn to change your own oil. The Yaris is VERY easy to work on.

Would love to but unsure on how. How would I rotate the tires? As well as clean up properly?



I will talk to this new dealer tomorrow in hopes that they could explain this high bill. I wish I had more of a straight answer on here but either way thanks for the advice. Not a good deal seems to be the right answer but I am probably just wanting to believe that... so very tired of car dealers/auto shops etc always feel like they will charge whatever they want.

[JumpmanYaris]

Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that.


.

They ask if I want to rotate the tires but I always say NOP they are brand new dude cant u see?!?!? lol but I am almost positive if I say yes they would charge me for it as well

[ryota]

yeah, that is a silly price for an oil change. the local auto parts stores has a sale on 5 mobil 1 synthetic quarts and filter for about $25 about 364 days out of the year. it takes about 15 mins to do myself and in the end i have 1 extra quart left over... it's like buy 4 oil changes get one free!!! i had never changed oil on any car before and decided to do it myself on the yaris and was amazed at how easy it is. my only suggestion is to buy a small strap type filter wrench (not that plastic cup looking thing)because it makes life a little bit easier... for me at least. there is nothing to worry about changing the oil in a yaris... i've had sneezes that were more difficult and painful than the oil change

[yaris-me]

Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that.


Would love to but unsure on how. How would I rotate the tires? As well as clean up properly?



I will talk to this new dealer tomorrow in hopes that they could explain this high bill. I wish I had more of a straight answer on here but either way thanks for the advice. Not a good deal seems to be the right answer but I am probably just wanting to believe that... so very tired of car dealers/auto shops etc always feel like they will charge whatever they want.

If you don't want to DIY, then just bend over and enjoy.:laugh:

[YarisSedan]

Not true. DIY FTW

86 dollars is way overpriced.

There is markup on oil. If they aren't making profit at 85, how do they charge me 65(and still make a profit), and they aren't just doing it to bring customers in, its a going rate, at a lube only place... Auto zone made profit off me buying 5 qts pennzoil platinum and a mobil 1 filter for 27.99

Hate to break it do you but they make no profit. Thats whats called a loss leader. It something that they loose money selling to you for less than or at cost. Hoping while your there you might buy a air filter, some car wax maybe some terry cloths etc. Its something to get you in the door. To help some people relate think back to black Friday when they were selling flat screen tvs for 400. No one though oh wow how can they do that. They are just giving them away. Because they are. They just want you to come to their store and hopefully buy something else on the way out.

Ill tell you what my shop pays for oil. 1.89 per quart. We used to pay 2.25 for almost a year putting in high quality oil in every oil change. But people didnt care they just wanted cheap. So we finally compromised and went down to a lower quality oil at 1.89 a quart and dropped out coupon rate from 19.95 to 17.95. I also pay about adverage 4 dollars for the filter. Depends on the car some are more some are less.

So if i a car comes in that takes 5 quarts of oil. thats 13.45 for the parts my cost I only make 4 dollars and 50 cents. That dosnt even cover cost of things like the quarter can of brake cleaner. Thats maybe 50 cents. So really i make 4 dollars flat. I am paying the lube tech 15 a hour that means I dont even cover his salary. Let alone have enough left over to pay for the electricity, rent, etc. Oh yeah i forgot to mention that includes topping off of fluids. Some cars come in with no wiper fluid. Maybe thats 50 cents to fill it up a gallon and half of washer fluid. Some cars come low on coolant. If its toyota long life thats maybe a dollar to fill up a quart. If its low on transmission fluid well it adds up. Sometimes we end up in the negative.

There is no money in oil changes ill say it one last time its considered loss leader. Belive what you will but no shop can survive on oil change alone. Its just something to bring customers in. at 13.45 for parts there is no real room for markup.

If a shop is charging even 20 dollars labor that still dosnt cover it. Most shops labor rate is 95 dollars a hour. If your getting a oil change that includes checking tire pressure topping of fluids full undervehicle inspection full underhood inspection. Takes about 25 minutes to do complete from start to finish. Ad another 5 minutes for checking and checkout time thats half a hour. So really you should be charged half an hour labor rate at 47.50 but your paying 20 bucks still. Or i guess at my shop 4 dollars.

Thats what i mean when i say your not getting ripped off. That shop OP took his car do decides to take less of a loss than the next shop. Maybe they are busy enough they dont really need to do oil changes that they have constant flow of customers. So if they are going to do a oil change they want to make sure its worth thier while. Maybe they have no lube technicians they only have a staff of mechanics. So you may have a 30 dollar a hour mechanic doing your oil change for 80 bucks with 45 dollars in material for oil. You do the math. They are not walking away with pockets full of money.

The lube shops that do quickie oil changes dont really make money either. They charge a little more but poeple go for the quickie service. They make it up by selling you unessisary stuff like air filters that arnt that dirty. Fluid exchanges that arnt needed yet. And plus they use only generic fluids and mark it way up. They pay their technicians lot lower than other shops. Which is why usually thier experience matches thier pay. I am sure everyone has heard of or know about a horror story of such quick lube shops. Just watch dateline nbc.

[YarisSedan]

Really sorry for my rant and rave. Its just in my shop i have people that walk out that say my oil change is a rip off at our normal price for 24 dollars at almost a daily basis. And it just offends me. I just want people to know the real truth. Someone had to say it.

FYI I do still use the better oil for the customers that request it i charge 3.50 more for the oil change or fully synthetic oil for 59.95 for up the 5 quarts. Or customers that wish to bring their own oil but walk in with a coupon for 17.95 but the price does not change. Blows me away when they complain why they still have to pay 17.95 even though they brought their own oil.

[supmet]

^^ when did we go from arguing an 86 dollar oil change to a 20 dollar oil change? You're losing a few dollars per oil change, not 50 or 60.

[YarisSedan]

^^ when did we go from arguing an 86 dollar oil change to a 20 dollar oil change? You're losing a few dollars per oil change, not 50 or 60.

Just showing that there is no markup in oil either if you are doing a normal or synthetic



"Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that."

If you really want to get down to it and break it down.....

Labor 33.84 - profit 33.84 (Keep in mind OP stated that he had his tires rotated too not just typical oil change) So subtract 26 if you want he was really billed only 7.84 for his oil change.
Parts 48.20 - depends on the oil. I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens just really depends on what oil they are using and quality of filter. Not really all that much markup here. Maybe 10 dollars i guess
Shop Material 1.35 - no profit here
Sales tax 3.05 - no profit here
Total 86.44

Okay if you add 33.84 plus 10 dollar profit on parts that 43.84. He paid the dealer 43.84 for 45 minutes worth of their time.

Honestly me personally trying to speak unbiased as possible. I would rather pay a shop 33.84 give them my oil and filter and have them rotate my tires for me, check and adjust my tire pressure, drain and refill my oil and clean up the mess and dispose of the oil and filter for me.

[SilverGlow]

No guff , but if your car is under warrenty you have to have your oil changed by a reputiable place to show a legit service record .


This is so not true!!!

Even a log entry in an excel spreadsheet would be good enough. You NEVER have to take it to a dealer, nor any other place to prove you got the oil changed.

[blacksandiegovitz]

Just showing that there is no markup in oil either if you are doing a normal or synthetic



"Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that."

If you really want to get down to it and break it down.....

Labor 33.84 - profit 33.84 (Keep in mind OP stated that he had his tires rotated too not just typical oil change) So subtract 26 if you want he was really billed only 7.84 for his oil change.
Parts 48.20 - depends on the oil. I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens just really depends on what oil they are using and quality of filter. Not really all that much markup here. Maybe 10 dollars i guess
Shop Material 1.35 - no profit here
Sales tax 3.05 - no profit here
Total 86.44

Okay if you add 33.84 plus 10 dollar profit on parts that 43.84. He paid a shop 43.84 for 45 minutes worth of their time.

Honestly me personally trying to speak unbiased as possible. I would rather pay a shop 33.84 give them my oil and filter and have them rotate my tires for me, check and adjust my tire pressure, drain and refill my oil and clean up the mess and dispose of the oil and filter for me.

^^+2
I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too :iono:

[SilverGlow]

Hate to break it do you but they make no profit. Thats whats called a loss leader. It something that they loose money selling to you for less than or at cost. Hoping while your there you might buy a air filter, some car wax maybe some terry cloths etc. Its something to get you in the door. To help some people relate think back to black Friday when they were selling flat screen tvs for 400. No one though oh wow how can they do that. They are just giving them away. Because they are. They just want you to come to their store and hopefully buy something else on the way out.

Ill tell you what my shop pays for oil. 1.89 per quart. We used to pay 2.25 for almost a year putting in high quality oil in every oil change. But people didnt care they just wanted cheap. So we finally compromised and went down to a lower quality oil at 1.89 a quart and dropped out coupon rate from 19.95 to 17.95. I also pay about adverage 4 dollars for the filter. Depends on the car some are more some are less.

So if i a car comes in that takes 5 quarts of oil. thats 13.45 for the parts my cost I only make 4 dollars and 50 cents. That dosnt even cover cost of things like the quarter can of brake cleaner. Thats maybe 50 cents. So really i make 4 dollars flat. I am paying the lube tech 15 a hour that means I dont even cover his salary. Let alone have enough left over to pay for the electricity, rent, etc. Oh yeah i forgot to mention that includes topping off of fluids. Some cars come in with no wiper fluid. Maybe thats 50 cents to fill it up a gallon and half of washer fluid. Some cars come low on coolant. If its toyota long life thats maybe a dollar to fill up a quart. If its low on transmission fluid well it adds up. Sometimes we end up in the negative.

There is no money in oil changes ill say it one last time its considered loss leader. Belive what you will but no shop can survive on oil change alone. Its just something to bring customers in. at 13.45 for parts there is no real room for markup.

If a shop is charging even 20 dollars labor that still dosnt cover it. Most shops labor rate is 95 dollars a hour. If your getting a oil change that includes checking tire pressure topping of fluids full undervehicle inspection full underhood inspection. Takes about 25 minutes to do complete from start to finish. Ad another 5 minutes for checking and checkout time thats half a hour. So really you should be charged half an hour labor rate at 47.50 but your paying 20 bucks still. Or i guess at my shop 4 dollars.

Thats what i mean when i say your not getting ripped off. That shop OP took his car do decides to take less of a loss than the next shop. Maybe they are busy enough they dont really need to do oil changes that they have constant flow of customers. So if they are going to do a oil change they want to make sure its worth thier while. Maybe they have no lube technicians they only have a staff of mechanics. So you may have a 30 dollar a hour mechanic doing your oil change for 80 bucks with 45 dollars in material for oil. You do the math. They are not walking away with pockets full of money.

The lube shops that do quickie oil changes dont really make money either. They charge a little more but poeple go for the quickie service. They make it up by selling you unessisary stuff like air filters that arnt that dirty. Fluid exchanges that arnt needed yet. And plus they use only generic fluids and mark it way up. They pay their technicians lot lower than other shops. Which is why usually thier experience matches thier pay. I am sure everyone has heard of or know about a horror story of such quick lube shops. Just watch dateline nbc.

This is A BIG LIE!

They in fact made a profit. If you look at what the dealership pays for the parts, and oil, and the fact that the labor is just minutes, so if you factor all this in THE PROFIT IS BIG!

You must work at a dealership and buy all their BS...this is FAR from being a loss leader!

[SilverGlow]

^^+2
I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too :iono:

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

[blacksandiegovitz]

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

Ok , well then have a good time trying to get your toyota dealer to back-up the warrenty when you have no ef'n service records on file :rolleyes:

[YarisSedan]

This is A BIG LIE!

They in fact made a profit. If you look at what the dealership pays for the parts, and oil, and the fact that the labor is just minutes, so if you factor all this in THE PROFIT IS BIG!

You must work at a dealership and buy all their BS...this is FAR from being a loss leader!

I guess you cant really understand what overhead is if you never owned a business or taken a business class in school. The dealership has the biggest overhead of any shop. Which is why they have the highest labor rate to cover it. Compared to a smaller independent.

You are not just paying for the lube tech. You are paying for the secretary that answers the phone. You are paying for the so called free coffe in the fancy waiting room. The food for the fish in the fish tank. The people that come and mop the floor every night. The security guard that walks the lot at night. The massive rent i could go on and on. They are not making some massive profit. put it this way if the dealership did ONLY oil changes. Nothing else. Do you really realistically think they would be making loads of money.

Yes i agree lots of things the dealership charges people can be very high. But you have to understand their overhead is so so high. If you dont want to pay a lot i have suggested time and time again find a good local mechanic that you can trust just like your doctor or dentist. My shop is in a complex with about 4 other shops. Two of the shops out of the 4 are 1 man operation 1 bay facility. Very little overhead. The owner is also the mechanic. Of course if the dealership may charge 400 dollars for a particular service he can do the same service for 200. because he has almost no overhead. He may be even willing to do it for 150. You can even find someone on craigslist to do the same service for 75. But guess what the guy on craigslist has zero overhead so he dosnt care.

But yet theres people that go to my shop cause they prefer the professionalism, appreciate the service and the fact that we use only OEM factory parts and have a 1 year warranty just like work done at the dealership but yet we are cheaper than them.

If they were only concerned with price they would probably find a mechanic on craigslist and go the cash no receipt gig and pray to god nothing happens to their car when they are done. But to me that is just insane. Thats like looking in the pennysaver ad for a coupon for laser eye surgery.

[YarisSedan]

MORE LIES!!! While in warranty YOU NEVER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OIL CHANGED BY A REPUTABLE PLACE, NOR DEALERSHIP...WHY ARE YOU GUYS MISLEADING PEOPLE HERE?!?!?

The dealership may ask you for your oil change paperwork if something happens engine realated. Like a total engine loss that they may have to replace. They want to see your service records that you have changed your oil in a timely manner. Thats why invoices from a independent shop if you are not going to the dealership is important. Sure you can get away if you do your own oil changes but you have to keep very good records. Dates times and reciptes. You now have to actually prove your case. As far as they know you may have never changed your oil for 2 years and your engine went kaput from sludge and lack of oil pressure. Dealership is more inclined to help you out no questions asked if they punch in your license plate as you pull up and see a extensive service history with them. If you dont have any service history now they become defensive. Now if you have service records to back you up then they will have no choice but to honor warrenty.

If you have NO service records. Well they still may help you. But you are really at the mercy of the dealership. And no one really wants to be in that position. I think two words come to mind.... Bend Over

[jambo101]

behour $86 for a synthetic oil change at the dealer is a bit high but not out of the ball park,here in Canada $70 to $80 would be the norm. 4 liters of Mobil1 will set you back close to $40 at the local auto parts store plus a $10 oil filter from the dealer and its $50 just to do it yourself:iono:

[DevilGirl]

I know I've been taking my car back to the dealer for the oil changes just for the simplicity of it. Our garage has been too much of a mess lately to be able to change it on my own (finally can get the cars back in as of last night). The driveway has too much of a slope to it to do it in the driveway. Not to mention that now it's just too damn cold out. Dealer I bought the car from and have gone back to, I've declined the tire rotation, and paid about $30+taxes for the oil change. And I get a free car wash out of the deal.

[schleppy]

Well this is what was done.. which I assume was standred but according to what you posted for $30 they change the filter and oil. Do they rotate the tires? I was charged $26 more for that.

Would love to but unsure on how. How would I rotate the tires? As well as clean up properly?


Rotating tires adds another 20 minutes or so to the job. All you need is a good jack to lift up one side of the car (they run around $50-100), and the tools already sitting in your tire kick in your trunk.

I would see if any Yarisworld members near you are willing to drop by your place and show you the ropes. It's very simple, and actually pretty fun! If you lived closer I would be happy to come by and help :(

Also, everyone saying you must have your car serviced by the dealer to maintain a warranty is flat out WRONG. Not only is it wrong, it's illegal. If a warranty issue comes up, the dealer only needs to see proof that SOMEONE did the oil change/service. If you do your own service, keep a log book. It's easy and will cover you in the event you have to use the warranty.

[mrb3990]

I wonder whether behour needs synthetic oil. If Mo stands for Missouri (where it doesn't get very cold), and the OP is changing his/her oil every 5 thousand miles, why pay extra for synthetic oil over dino oil? The Yaris engine doesn't need it, does it?

[elmo]

screwed no kisses !!!!!

[eTiMaGo]

you need to ask for an oil change without the optional ass reaming...

[jamal1984]

I have no experience with vehicles. My yaris is the first new car I bought. I sadly feel often screwed. I went to get an oil change today and was charged 86.44 for it.

Here is my questions

It was full syntetic oil. Is this the best to get or should I avoid?
I was over charged...correct? It seems ridiculously high.
My bill looks something like this

Labor 33.84
Parts 48.20
Shop Material 1.35
Sales tax 3.05
Total 86.44


This is my 2nd oil change at 10,000 miles. My first oil change I asked for syntetic from another Toyota dealer and was only charged $41.45. I was not sure if I was given full synthetic oil even when told otherwise. I was charged with "lube synthetic oil for $10.00". The bill was not clear. I have had problems with the sales department so I tried another dealer. Looks like I should of just stayed with them for a $40 dollar change in price and a 20minutes extra drive.

Any opinions and help would be great for someone as clueless as me with cars. I just want to take the best care for it you know?
After you left they all went out and buy each a pack of cigarette with your moneys and hi-fi.
It's a Yaris, nothing hard to do an oil change, unless you are a girl and don't feel like getting dirty.
Oil change is freaky easy on almost every car, bend over unscrew a few screws, remove the filter, put it back and fill it up, nothing hard guys.
GOOGLE it first before you go out and spend your moneys like that.
We all here to help.

[schleppy]

I wonder whether behour needs synthetic oil. If Mo stands for Missouri (where it doesn't get very cold), and the OP is changing his/her oil every 5 thousand miles, why pay extra for synthetic oil over dino oil? The Yaris engine doesn't need it, does it?

I'm sure the engine doesn't "need" synthetic, but it can't hurt...

[SilverGlow]

Ok , well then have a good time trying to get your toyota dealer to back-up the warrenty when you have no ef'n service records on file :rolleyes:

I have never had a problem getting Toyota to back up warranty work.

Never. So "luck" is never needed.

Legislation protects consumers from car makers forcing them to maintain their vehicles ONLY at their dealerships.

You really are behind the times and need to educate yourself on how it really works. There is NO reason to get maintenence at a dealership nor even an independent garage...you can do it yourself, and that is good enough.

[SilverGlow]

I guess you cant really understand what overhead is if you never owned a business or taken a business class in school. The dealership has the biggest overhead of any shop. Which is why they have the highest labor rate to cover it. Compared to a smaller independent.

You are not just paying for the lube tech. You are paying for the secretary that answers the phone. You are paying for the so called free coffe in the fancy waiting room. The food for the fish in the fish tank. The people that come and mop the floor every night. The security guard that walks the lot at night. The massive rent i could go on and on. They are not making some massive profit. put it this way if the dealership did ONLY oil changes. Nothing else. Do you really realistically think they would be making loads of money.

Yes i agree lots of things the dealership charges people can be very high. But you have to understand their overhead is so so high. If you dont want to pay a lot i have suggested time and time again find a good local mechanic that you can trust just like your doctor or dentist. My shop is in a complex with about 4 other shops. Two of the shops out of the 4 are 1 man operation 1 bay facility. Very little overhead. The owner is also the mechanic. Of course if the dealership may charge 400 dollars for a particular service he can do the same service for 200. because he has almost no overhead. He may be even willing to do it for 150. You can even find someone on craigslist to do the same service for 75. But guess what the guy on craigslist has zero overhead so he dosnt care.

But yet theres people that go to my shop cause they prefer the professionalism, appreciate the service and the fact that we use only OEM factory parts and have a 1 year warranty just like work done at the dealership but yet we are cheaper than them.

If they were only concerned with price they would probably find a mechanic on craigslist and go the cash no receipt gig and pray to god nothing happens to their car when they are done. But to me that is just insane. Thats like looking in the pennysaver ad for a coupon for laser eye surgery.

I have owned a business since 1983; a California corporation. I have a Stanford MBA, 1998 grad.

It is sad that it is you that is ignorant of how a business works, and you proved it by speaking to a dealership's overhead.

The dealership's overhead is a weak justification for it's screaming way too high prices. What a dealership needs to do is price to compete, and since they often don't they collectively have a very bad reputation in the country. People are just so untrusting of them and what they really are is STEALERSHIPS.

You really need to take a basic finance class and then you might understand.

Using your backward logic, an angry over charged consumer should feel better and be happy once the service writer explains the massive overhead of the dealership....."Oh, I see, in that case, I feel so much better for having been bent over and shafted without lubrication, and no reach-around"....

Get real, dude!

[SilverGlow]

I'm sure the engine doesn't "need" synthetic, but it can't hurt...

All modern engines do better with synthetic oil. The difference might not be great, but it is there.

[b_hickman11]

^^+2
I really also think that most people are missing the part about if your yaris is still under warrenty you MUST have your car serviced by a reputable dealer/service center so you have a record of all the maintance done . I've installed every single part on my car , myself and have built a couple 4g63 and 7mgte longblocks up in the past so I know my way around a wrench . Now do you guys really think I enjoy having to pay for an oil change and having to wait while someone fondles my baby , Hell-no but its under warrenty so I gotta do what i gotta do . I'm sure the OP's car is still under warrenty too :iono:


No you don't. I had a 2005 Tacoma that I changed the oil on every 5000 miles. At 33,000 miles, the fuel pump went out. The dealer replaced it under warranty with no questions asked. Your local dealer must be misleading you or maybe you hit yourself in the head with that wrench that you know your way around.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Really sorry for my rant and rave. Its just in my shop i have people that walk out that say my oil change is a rip off at our normal price for 24 dollars at almost a daily basis. And it just offends me. I just want people to know the real truth. Someone had to say it.

FYI I do still use the better oil for the customers that request it i charge 3.50 more for the oil change or fully synthetic oil for 59.95 for up the 5 quarts. Or customers that wish to bring their own oil but walk in with a coupon for 17.95 but the price does not change. Blows me away when they complain why they still have to pay 17.95 even though they brought their own oil.


$25 or less is very reasonable. Even $30 is. $85 is rape and I should know... My wife took our Mazda in to the dealer for a change when I was at work because none of the oil change or auto shops had the "special filter tool" for our car. $120 later we had an oil change and tire rotation. Lesson learned (and taught to my wife), bought the filter tool online for $13, order the factory filters for $6/piece, and change the oil myself with Mobil 1 @$22 for 5 quarts.

[b_hickman11]

I guess you cant really understand what overhead is if you never owned a business or taken a business class in school. The dealership has the biggest overhead of any shop. Which is why they have the highest labor rate to cover it. Compared to a smaller independent.

You are not just paying for the lube tech. You are paying for the secretary that answers the phone. You are paying for the so called free coffe in the fancy waiting room. The food for the fish in the fish tank. The people that come and mop the floor every night. The security guard that walks the lot at night. The massive rent i could go on and on. They are not making some massive profit. put it this way if the dealership did ONLY oil changes. Nothing else. Do you really realistically think they would be making loads of money.

Yes i agree lots of things the dealership charges people can be very high. But you have to understand their overhead is so so high. If you dont want to pay a lot i have suggested time and time again find a good local mechanic that you can trust just like your doctor or dentist. My shop is in a complex with about 4 other shops. Two of the shops out of the 4 are 1 man operation 1 bay facility. Very little overhead. The owner is also the mechanic. Of course if the dealership may charge 400 dollars for a particular service he can do the same service for 200. because he has almost no overhead. He may be even willing to do it for 150. You can even find someone on craigslist to do the same service for 75. But guess what the guy on craigslist has zero overhead so he dosnt care.

But yet theres people that go to my shop cause they prefer the professionalism, appreciate the service and the fact that we use only OEM factory parts and have a 1 year warranty just like work done at the dealership but yet we are cheaper than them.

If they were only concerned with price they would probably find a mechanic on craigslist and go the cash no receipt gig and pray to god nothing happens to their car when they are done. But to me that is just insane. Thats like looking in the pennysaver ad for a coupon for laser eye surgery.

By your standards, no company ever makes any profit. I'm glad you're not the president, everyone would be homeless.

[Hershey]

I would check to make sure they didn't overfill your oil . Hopefully didn't install all 4 or 5 quarts of oil . I use little over 3 and a 1/2 quarts to get it to full mark , sometimes a smidgen over .

[b_hickman11]

I actually just got finished changing my oil this morning. Took about 10 minutes and only cost me about $10. I put 5000 miles on about every 6 weeks so spending $10 each time is a lot better than $80+.

[RUFFSTUFF]

It's funny in this day and age with all the resources available, people still don't understand the very warranty they signed saying they did. Changing your own oil does not void your warranty... as well as any other maintenance you may perform. For a claim to be denied it must be proven by the dealer that the failure was due to neglect or for lack of a better word, incompetence. If you change your own oil and say, you forget to torque your drain bolt, it falls out, your oil drains and your motor seizes... probably not going to get a new motor out of it at no cost... But like said previously, change your own oil and the fuel pump fails prematurely... no correlation... claim should be good.

The problem is the interface. There is some amount of faith in the dealer that they are going to help you out. After all. it is them that are filing the warranty claim... They don't want to do repair work on your vehicle and then get stiffed on the bill because the manufacturer's bean counter doesn't want to pay 2 weeks later. I've seen dealers go the extra mile and basically sell the repair work to the Claims Dept. to get it covered, saving the consumer big bucks. I've seen dealers tell a customer that the claim will be denied and they won't do the work unless the customer pays just because the dealer didn't feel like doing the legwork or checking. Or the customer was a douchebag... which is never the case, right?

[RUFFSTUFF]

I actually just got finished changing my oil this morning. Took about 10 minutes and only cost me about $10. I put 5000 miles on about every 6 weeks so spending $10 each time is a lot better than $80+.


I'm about to do mine today, the filter was $4.50 and the 5 quart jug was $11. No need for full synthetic in this car.

[JBIZZ]

The dealerships are in the business to make money & are very dishonest. They could care less about the customer. Toyotas are very reliable & don't break that often, so they got to make money some how. I don't trust dealerships at all but if one wants to get ripped off go ahead. That being said it takes 10 minutes to change oil. That's equivalent to $200 an hour labor for the cost of labor which was charged above. Most dealerships usually charge $110 an hour labor. You got ripped off but only for $20. One can change the oil themselves at @ $8 a quart of Royal Purple from Advance auto parts, along w/ a superior K & N non-back flow oil filter for @ $10 ( @ $45 total).

[daf62757]

I have no experience with vehicles. My yaris is the first new car I bought. I sadly feel often screwed. I went to get an oil change today and was charged 86.44 for it.

Here is my questions

It was full syntetic oil. Is this the best to get or should I avoid?
I was over charged...correct? It seems ridiculously high.
My bill looks something like this

Labor 33.84
Parts 48.20
Shop Material 1.35
Sales tax 3.05
Total 86.44



This is my 2nd oil change at 10,000 miles. My first oil change I asked for syntetic from another Toyota dealer and was only charged $41.45. I was not sure if I was given full synthetic oil even when told otherwise. I was charged with "lube synthetic oil for $10.00". The bill was not clear. I have had problems with the sales department so I tried another dealer. Looks like I should of just stayed with them for a $40 dollar change in price and a 20minutes extra drive.

Any opinions and help would be great for someone as clueless as me with cars. I just want to take the best care for it you know?


I have a question.....would it have been worth a few dollars more to have someone come to your home...or work place....and change your oil?

I have toyed with the idea to start a valet oil change business that specializes in full synthetic oil and comes to where ever it is convenient for you.

How many would pay $100 for that?

[SpaceShot]

I would certainly recommend learning to do it for yourself. The oil change on the Yaris is not hard as engines go. You can even do it without jacking the car up. (not the most comfortable approach) The trickiest part is finding a filter wrench that will fit the little tea cup of a filter it has and not slip. Proper filters and oil can be found in any parts store or even Walmart.

If you don't have the Saturday morning to spare and a suitable garage or driveway, you can look for an independent shop. Try
http://www.cartalk.com/ct/mechx/find.jsp?zip=63101&miles=50
if you have no one local that can recommend a shop.

There is nothing magic about dealer service. In many locations independent shop mechanics pass the same certifications the dealer staff do. If you are worried about warranty, just keep your receipts on file.

Quick lube places are another story. If you have no other choices, look for one that has certified staff (on hand if not under your car) and where you can watch the service being done. If you use one of these, you should check the level and fittings when you get home. (making it less of a convenience perhaps, but keeping your engine safe)

[Hershey]

would think synthetic be better for the 1.5 ltr. engine due to working harder to climb hills and highway speeds ( higher r.p.m. ) . Be better for very cold day starts and those hot commutes in summer .

[supmet]

I pay 11 dollars a quart for amsoil from my local kragens

Dude, honestly, if you can't argue the facts at hand I'm going to start ignoring your posts. We're not talking amsoil, and we're not talking 20 dollar changes. AND we're not talking about an independent shop who buys their shit from kragen.

[coffiend]

Uhhhh Missouri does get pretty cold.

Idk what your standard of cold weather is but single digit temps is pretty darn cold in my eyes.

I would think synthetic oil is justifiable in those conditions.

Also, unless the average oil changing chain is losing 50ish bucks every oil change they make, there is definitely a profit in an $80 oil change... if they really were losing that much each change, those places would not exist...

80 is absolutely crazy to me...

[mrb3990]

What I have been led to believe by visiting different forums (bob is the oil guy and cartalk, primarily) is that synthetic is superior to dino oil in extremely cold temperatures (like -20 F and below) not single digits. Dino oil can handle single digits. Also, synthetic is important for high performance engines and any engines for which is it specified in the owner's manual. The question is whether or not synthetic oil is beneficial for an engine like the one in the yaris. The Yaris owner's manual does not specify synthetic. I'm not knocking anyone who uses synthetic oil in their yaris (it's your baby, I understand) but if the OP is complaining about a high price oil change, I just wanted to put it out there that he/she might just want to use dino oil. I only have 2200 miles on my yaris, but I plan on using dino oil when the time comes to get that first oil change.

[Yaris Hilton]

Yep. Dino oil at recommended change intervals is what my Yaris is getting, and I expect my engine life to be as good as anyone's.

[swidd]

Uh, no, that's not so overpriced. I've been upset with the price of synthetic oil change myself, but if you're asking for full synthetic, that's within the price range. At walmart or auto-zone, the top brand full synthetic will run 35-45 dollars, some of them closer to $50 (Mobil-1). + filter, + labor, and you're there. If I'm going to do it myself I'd still spend $60 in 'parts'.

[b_hickman11]

Uh, no, that's not so overpriced. I've been upset with the price of synthetic oil change myself, but if you're asking for full synthetic, that's within the price range. At walmart or auto-zone, the top brand full synthetic will run 35-45 dollars, some of them closer to $50 (Mobil-1). + filter, + labor, and you're there. If I'm going to do it myself I'd still spend $60 in 'parts'.

I'll stay with my $2.20 per qt oil and $3 filter. Been using it for years with no problems. Ends up costing me around $100 a year(8-9 oil changes). With synthetic it would be $425 if I did it myself or $735 if I went to behour's dealer. If I was a rich man maybe I wouldn't care but then again I wouldn't be driving a Yaris either.

[scape]

that sounds about right for synthetic from the dealer. i hope they rotated your tires too. looks like you paid for labor at a half-hour which with oil change and rotation, up and down on the lift it would be close to 25 minutes

[DerFlosser]

Anybody that thinks a dealership isn't ripping them off is clueless. A dealership is the LAST place that I would bring a car to be worked on. Any mechanic(s) that is worth a shit is working for themselves as an independant garage anyhow. Dealerships have been called "Stealerships" for years now and it's no coincidence. The argument for synthetic is better lubrication and cleaner engine. There is no question that a synthetic is superior to a conventional in those two areas. I believe their ability to suspend particulates and harmful combustion bi-products may even be superior but I haven't done the research to say that with confidence.

[coffiend]

^ I agree with saying that dealerships in general over charge,but saying that all mechanics that don't work for independent shops aren't "worth shit" is a little over the top... Not to mention incredibly rude and mean.

[YarisSedan]

Dude, honestly, if you can't argue the facts at hand I'm going to start ignoring your posts. We're not talking amsoil, and we're not talking 20 dollar changes. AND we're not talking about an independent shop who buys their shit from kragen.

Okay this is starting to turn into a flame war here so this will be the last post i will make on this thread. What i noticed on threads that start to go this route is people who respond and join in dont read the thread and reponses from start to finish and may only read the last 1 or 2 pages and then comment typing in all caps and start using curse words without knowing the whole story.

If you account the fact that he payed in addition to his oil change for a tire rotation which was 26 dollars. Otherwise he would have payed pretty much 60 dollars for just a synthetic oil change alone at the dealership. Which 60 dollars is not entirely unreasonable. Jiffy lube charges 79.95 for synthetic oil change using penzoil platinum for up to 5 quarts. I am not sure if they adjust the price down if a vehicle takes less oil.

I am not tryign to say you should go to the dealership just try to explain why they charge a higher labor rate.

The reason I am comparing it to a normal 20 dollar oil change is to show you the labor rate is the same as a synthetic oil change. They labor they charged the Origonal Post was about 7 dollars. the extra 26 dollars came into play when he decided to get a tire rotation.

So really the only question should be the price he payed for the oil. We cant say for certain what type of oil he got in his car when going to the dealer. Unless someone here works for toyota they can state the brand. Sure they may buy it in massive bulk and get a discount rate which gives them a greater margin of markup but in reality it is not that great. If they sell the synthetic for 11 bucks i dont realisticly think they payed 2 or 3 bucks. At a minumum its about 5 bucks. Unless its some generic brand synthetic. I have worked with a lot of venders and i know what the prices are out on the market. If you dont want to believe me you have the right to your opinion just like i have the right to my own.

[supmet]

the extra 26 dollars came into play when he decided to get a tire rotation.

And that in itself is a ripoff. I get free rotations, and if you have it up for an oil change, you're adding 90 seconds. Even at the ripoff rate of 95 dollars an hour that's $2.40.

And you're also acting like a lube tech works on one car, and one car only until its done. Like he sits there and watches it drain or something. When working in a shop, you know full well a lube tech can and will do as many cars as there are lifts or pits.

I realize its convenient to fudge the facts to support your business, but nobody is buying it.


Sure they may buy it in massive bulk and get a discount rate which gives them a greater margin of markup but in reality it is not that great. If they sell the synthetic for 11 bucks i dont realisticly think they payed 2 or 3 bucks. At a minumum its about 5 bucks.

If I buy full synthetic for less than 5 dollars a quart, I doubt the dealership spends more.



I have worked with a lot of venders and i know what the prices are out on the market.

I browse the kragen ads too dude..

[mdesjarlais]

I worked at a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury dealer back in '07 before transferring to a SpeeDee Oil Change and Tune-up... The going rate at Ford was around $35 and semi-syn was around $42. Full synthetic was not even an option. At Speedee the going rate was around $70 bucks for Mobil1 and a cheap Service Champ filter and multipoint check. If you buy your gallon of oil at wal-mart it will run you nearly nothing to do your own oil change with mobil1 oil. FYI most autozone stores will take waste oil for free... which is pretty convenient, and you will save that environmental fee and shop fee charge at the dealer while at the same time knowing your oil was actually done right.

[b_hickman11]

If you account the fact that he payed in addition to his oil change for a tire rotation which was 26 dollars.

.


I can rotate my tires in less than 7 minutes using 1 jack stand and the pos factory jack. And it will be free. The dealership has a lift. With 1 tech they could rotate in probably 2 minutes or less, with 2 techs less than a minute. So thats $26 for a minute or two of work. Thats about $1500 an hour!! But still you say thats not a profit? Your dealership must have a water park in it for the customers to use while getting their car serviced!

[ctrj]

You didn't get screwed. You signed the repair order before your car was worked on didn't you? They quoted you a price didn't they?

Your price seems right for a dealership oil change.

$10 for the oil filter
$10/qt for synthetic oil x 4 = $40

At my shop, techs get about .3 of an hour for an oil change. They get an extra .1 if they have to pour the oil in from bottles instead of the overhead oil. Labor at my shop is $118 an hour.

There is quite a bit of markup in synthetic oil. I think we pay about $4 a quart for Mobil 1, but charge $9 a quart.

Thankfully, there are many people like you who come and get their oil changed at the dealership or I wouldn't have a job. I can't afford the $80 oil changes, but do it at home. $3 for a Toyota filter and $22 for a jug of Mobil 1 and 30 minutes is all I need.

[DerFlosser]

^ I agree with saying that dealerships in general over charge,but saying that all mechanics that don't work for independent shops aren't "worth shit" is a little over the top... Not to mention incredibly rude and mean.

As somebody once said...the truth hurts. Good Mechanics work at independant garages because independants can't afford bad or average mechanics and dealerships simply don't share the same stakes because lemmings come to dealer over and over regardless. Simple as that...

[mdesjarlais]

As somebody once said...the truth hurts. Good Mechanics work at independant garages because independants can't afford bad or average mechanics and dealerships simply don't share the same stakes because lemmings come to dealer over and over regardless. Simple as that...

well put. that's why I left the dealership world because of lax repair work going on around the place. I take pride in my work, but unfortunately some guys just want to make a quick buck. I hope they make the mechanical field a licensed profession. You get some licensed mechanics in any garage and then see how much your oil change costs... be happy you don't own a powerstroke.

[Cosworth]

$86 for an oil change + tire rotation? It seems steep IMO. Maybe it's time to invest in a floor jack & a set of jack stands (plus a decent torque wrench & a metric socket set).

It's really easy to change oil in Yaris compared to some !!@# cars out there.

As for full synthetic vs. dino oil... I really don't see a huge difference between the two, but I drive my Yaris only during summer.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Yeah, I just did my 5000 mile change... it was ridiculously easy and I probably could have done it without the ramps. Though I do wonder why they angled the drain plug towards the right wheel.

[yaris-me]

Yeah, I just did my 5000 mile change... it was ridiculously easy and I probably could have done it without the ramps. Though I do wonder why they angled the drain plug towards the right wheel.

So you don't confuse it with transmission.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Aha! Good call...

[Twistoffate0817]

I paid 60 dollars for my synthetic oil change.

[Yawesh]

I have no experience with vehicles. My yaris is the first new car I bought. I sadly feel often screwed. I went to get an oil change today and was charged 86.44 for it.

Here is my questions

It was full syntetic oil. Is this the best to get or should I avoid?
I was over charged...correct? It seems ridiculously high.
My bill looks something like this

Labor 33.84
Parts 48.20
Shop Material 1.35
Sales tax 3.05
Total 86.44


This is my 2nd oil change at 10,000 miles. My first oil change I asked for syntetic from another Toyota dealer and was only charged $41.45. I was not sure if I was given full synthetic oil even when told otherwise. I was charged with "lube synthetic oil for $10.00". The bill was not clear. I have had problems with the sales department so I tried another dealer. Looks like I should of just stayed with them for a $40 dollar change in price and a 20minutes extra drive.

Any opinions and help would be great for someone as clueless as me with cars. I just want to take the best care for it you know?

everyone makes mistakes, but the point is not to do it again, aittte. best thing to make up for it is learn how to do the oil change yourself. it's really easy, in fact - i'm an oil change specialist.....and suk in everything else

[chai]

You either pay now or you pay later.

I had to invest in tools to do car work:
Ramps - $38
Jack - $96
Jack Stands - $20
Torque wrench - $15
Other tools/sockets - $20

But my oil change cost me <$25 in parts, and that was with Pennzoil Platinum synthetic and a TRD filter. Having those tools available made the decision to buy snow tires/rims and swap them out myself easier. "Free" tire rotations for life now :P

It hasn't hit -20F in WI yet, but it might. Overkill?

[sqcomp]

hmmm. The dealership I go to has never charged me that much. Why in the name of all that is holy do you need full synthetic? Does the owner's manual call for it? Sounds to me that this dealership needs to lose a customer to one that treats you with more respect and give you a quote before the job.

[supmet]

I had to invest in tools to do car work:
Ramps - $38
Jack - $96
Jack Stands - $20
Torque wrench - $15
Other tools/sockets - $20

A jack should be 40-50 dollars tops especially for the yaris. The torque wrench should have been more though :P

You only need a socket to do the oil, I haven't jacked it up for the last couple changes.

[jambo101]

I actually just got finished changing my oil this morning. Took about 10 minutes and only cost me about $10. I put 5000 miles on about every 6 weeks so spending $10 each time is a lot better than $80+.

What kind of oil and filter are you using that can be had for less than $10 in total:confused:

[Yaris Hilton]

If you watch for sales at the auto stores, that's not rare.

[MadMax]

Yes, even for a dealership, that seems high; but if you include a tire rotation than it's not as bad. Still, there is a reason why many people call them “stealerships!” :eek:

As noted, you could easily save a lot of money by either doing it yourself or finding an independent shop to do the work. I change the oil in all my vehicles except for my wife's Honda Odyssey minivan (I hate working on it). It is a simple job for even the most mechanically-challenged individuals; but if you feel you can't do it yourself you might want to consider someplace other than a dealership to have it done.

And in my experience, you are not getting any higher quality service by going to a dealer. I had a free oil change and tire rotation from the dealership where I bought my Yaris, and not only did they screw up and no put synthetic in the car as I requested, the car also drove horribly after they rotated the tires. I went to a Discount Tire store on my way home and bought the lifetime rotation and balance plan for the car for about $60, and after they were done with it, it rode like it was on rails.

I am just about to do the 10K oil change on my car, should take all of 15-20 minutes even being my first time doing this on my Yaris. And no, it does not void the warranty, that is an old myth. As a matter of fact, I prefer to do my own oil changes (except for the minivan) as it is the only way I know it is done right. I do have a lot of faith and trust in the independent shop where I get most of my major repair and maintenance work done, but I know the only person I can count on to be absolutely, 100% committed to doing the work properly is myself. Also, it gives you a better understanding of your car and actually makes you feel closer to it! :w00t:

Cheers! M2

[Yarrris-Wench]

I have no experience with vehicles. My yaris is the first new car I bought. I sadly feel often screwed. I went to get an oil change today and was charged 86.44 for it.

yes i feel your pain. I got my first oil change done @ the place i bought the car from & it was about the same about if not about 10 short of that. :eyebulge: I can tell you one thing I'm never doing that again. lol I think i might try & learn to do it myself. :help:

[junorico24]

U could have done it yourself..nothin to it. the hardest part is getting the yaris on the ramp.That's it, once it's up and secured (safety reason) all you need is spanner and oil pan.

[Trompi-XP9]

In germany i pay 90$ for oil change (171,45€)

[MadMax]

AutoZone has a special going right now, last night I picked up 5 liters (5.28 quarts) of Mobile 1 "Full Synthetic" 5W30 and a M1-130 filter for $29.99 + tax. That is usually the price of the oil alone. There were no signs to indicate this, but I did see it later in their current circular (http://www.autozone.com/dyn/dyn/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m1300231_circular_pdf_slot_1.pdf). This deal runs through 13 January 2010. :w00t:

Cheers! M2

[CKaelin]

My local mechanic (non-dealer) $40 oil/filter and tire rotation. Non Synthetic. Maintenance Light just came on as I hit 24,500 miles last night on my 08. Have had this service every 5000 miles. =) Once I took it to the dealer and the charged my $65. Never again.

[b_hickman11]

What kind of oil and filter are you using that can be had for less than $10 in total:confused:


I use Mobil Clean 5000 which is $11 for 5 qts but I only use 3.8 qts. And I use a Supertech filter which is only about $2.50. So thats about $10 per change.

[Saskatchewan17]

You got screwed big time buddy... sorry to hear man. You shouldn't be charged that much for even a synthetic change.

[Thirty-Nine]

I do my own oil changes, too.

Mobil 1 oil + Purolator filter = $35. Plus, I have the satisfaction of knowing I did the work. Therefore, if something gets screwed up I get to blame myself! LOL

[Zaphod]

I didn't have to use a ramp or jacks when I did my oil change.

It is low to the ground though by comparison to other cars I've owned, but still at the stock height it's not bad at all.

[RUFFSTUFF]

I didn't have to use a ramp or jacks when I did my oil change.

It is low to the ground though by comparison to other cars I've owned, but still at the stock height it's not bad at all.


Plenty of room...

[libraryelf]

I just paid $64 for my 08 third oil changed. I went to the local EZ Lupe. I think you were way over charged for the oil change. Did they do more than just change the oil?

[RUFFSTUFF]

I just paid $64 for my 08 third oil changed. I went to the local EZ Lupe. I think you were way over charged for the oil change. Did they do more than just change the oil?


$64 is still too much.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Isnt mobil1 just 22 bucks for 5qt jug? How is 29 bucks at autozone a deal? Thats just average pricing - no deal?

[toyota]

yeah i really believe that got ripped off
very badly and as far as them putting
synthetic oil, its kinda of rare for them to
put it on unless you ask for it. I actually
spoke to one of the technicians and
he told me that once you have started
with synthetic you shouldn't go back to
regular and vice versa. He also said that
Toyota made their cars to work with the
regular oil and that is the default oil that
they use when people bring in their
Toyotas for an oil change.

Even though your car is new, just stick
to regular oil. Toyota makes them so
that they work with the regular oil, plus
synthetic will cost more. That really
sucks that it really happened. Try to
learn and do it yourself, look on video
sites such as youtube or have a friend
teach you and you can start saving a
lot of money and putting the rest of your
money on something that is really worth
paying for.

-Sam

[RUFFSTUFF]

Isnt mobil1 just 22 bucks for 5qt jug? How is 29 bucks at autozone a deal? Thats just average pricing - no deal?



Yep, $22 at Walmart...

[MadMax]

Not the same thing. The jug at Walmart is a 5 quart one, the one at Autozone is 5 liters. Throw in the free Mobile 1 oil filter (which Walmart doesn't even carry, just that Fram shit) and you come out ahead...

[RUFFSTUFF]

The difference between 5 quarts and 5 liters is 9 ounces. Neither is enough for 2 oil changes, so if you kept it you would still have to buy additional oil for the time when you do the second change or a change on another vehicle... How much does that M1-130 filter cost by itself?