should oil be changed in manual transmission?

[galactus]

Hello:

I have a 2007 Yaris with 75,000 miles and the 5-speed manual. Is there a scheduled maintenance for the manual transaxle?. That is, should the gear oil be changed at certain intervals?.

Thanks for any replies because I can find nothing regarding it.

[thebarber]

i think its every 60k miles, no?

[WeeYari]

Hmmm. Just checked my owners manual and it recommends every 48 months/64,000 km whichever comes first. 64,000 km is approx 40,000 miles. According to this, your almost ready for a second change.

[UTVitz]

If you want to maintain it to own it forever or 300k which ever comes first, I'm changing it every 30,000miles. Toyota usually recommends 60,000 mile intervals. But if you're at 75,000 and it's never been done, I'd post haste and get some fresh gear oil in there. It's really simple to do, but about $60 at the dealer. The car only hold two quarts.

[Hershey]

highly suggest REDLINE MT-90 www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7 or AMSOIL MTG www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx if you do get gear oil changed . Both are a 75W-90 ( GL-4 ) gear oil . Don't use a GL-5 gear oil . You'll end up with grinding and more difficult downshifting . Learned this from experince with a '08 Yaris L.B. with manual tranny . Both are about $13 a quart . So $25 > $30 for 2 quarts . Takes little less than 2 quarts . May want to get gear oil done and then drain that oil out in about 1,000 miles to act as a flush and then put fresh oil in and leave for around 30,000 miles . Depending on how long you plan to keep the car . The shifting with the REDLINE becomes very smooth over time and no clunking into reverse . Cold shifting gets better as well . Hope this helps .

[tomato]

sure does, Hershey, thanks. :headbang:

[AlexNet0]

hmm.. didnt read that service interval. im at 80k miles and I havent done it yet. Oops

[yaris2010RS]

i find that the MT doesn't matter too much..... dont get me wrong it should always be done and when u are to get to it, remove the pan and clean it out, jsut wipe it down with clean papertowels, dont introduce any cleaning products (windex bad) and make sure to clean the magnets. transmission oil i find lasts a very very long time but as u go over and beyond the due date the life of the car goes down a bit.... maybe...yet to find out.

i was under the impression the factory tranny oil lasts about 120,000 km but after u change it once it must be done every 48,000 km..... lol, changed the transmission oil twice on 01 camry.... its at over 350,000 km and the first one was done at 192,xxx Km...it was a bit dirty, still kinda red..... kindaish, lol, looked like new engine oil. but if ure not gonan clean the magnets and get as much slime as possible, or dont bother.

also i have heard there is a tranny oil filter.... i have yet to see it/find it. its located inside the pan somewhere.... this might be for auto only, iunno....

[thebarber]

better safe than have to replace the transmission

[Lewis]

my 2009 owners manual does not call for changing the manual transmission oil at all

living in a cold area though i went with synthetic (easy to do - read DIY) and it seems to help on the cold days

[WeeYari]

My owners manual makes no mention of fluid changes.

I do however have what they call an Owner's Manual Supplement - Warranty, Maintenance & Roadside Assistance Information. This booklet outlines the recommendations for all the various fluid changes.

[galactus]

Thanks for all the replies and the advice on the GL4 over the GL5. i will

remember that. I looked all through my owners manuals and did not see

a thing about changing manual tranny oil, but I am going to do it soon

anyway.

I am not going to no 'rip-off' dealer though. I just took my little Yaris there to

have the alternator looked at because the battery light was on, but the car

ran fine and was not discharging. they wanted to charge me $600 for an

alternator. They're nuts!!!. It was just the terminals in the voltage regulator

were a little corrosive(which is apparently common in the Yaris). I cleaned

them and it's fine now and no battery light. For those who did not know,

remember this if your battery light comes on and do not let a dealer rip you

off.

See here if interested:

http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-EL002-07(Charging%20System%20Warning%20Light%20ON%20).pd f

[ddongbap]

I heard its 100k mile oil.

And I wouldn't change the tranny fluid to anything else if I were you.

[galactus]

I heard its 100k mile oil.

And I wouldn't change the tranny fluid to anything else if I were you.

Do you mean do not bother changing it at all?.

I looked all through the scheduled maintenance booklet(which goes up to 120,000 miles in 5,000 miles increments) and there is no mention of changing it. It does say change the spark plugs at 120,000 though.

[Lewis]

Do you mean do not bother changing it at all?.

I looked all through the scheduled maintenance booklet(which goes up t:iono:o 120,000 miles in 5,000 miles increments) and there is no mention of changing it. It does say change the spark plugs at 120,000 though.

Mine is the same - It might have changed on the 2009's. I'll probably do it at 60K just to be safe.

[YotaYaris]

I think he means anything other than Toyota OEM fluid.

[schleppy]

I put AMSOIL GL-4 synthetic gear oil in mine at 10k. It made a huge difference in cold weather shifting. MUCH smoother.

[Hershey]

if you want better shifting , change the gear oil out for REDLINE MT-90 or AMSOIL MTG . It's your call .

[ddongbap]

'Better Shifting' is only your opinion. How much 'Better Shifting' are you going to get out of a Yaris?

[Hershey]

'Better Shifting' is only your opinion. How much 'Better Shifting' are you going to get out of a Yaris? big difference . No clunking into reverse , no grinding when downshifting , and easier shifting when extremely cold :thumbsup: . Don't knock it 'til you try it .

[kngrsll]

Hershey is right, i am using Redline as well.... great product. Oil does not care what transmission it ends up in, good oil is good oil.

[TheSilkySmooth]

The toyota oil (from the factory) is good oil, but at 25K, It is starting to feel too thin in the summer. Time for fresh GL-4 NOT GL-5! Now that WP has their shiite together their semi-syn cross-spec;d GL4/5 at WM for about 7 bucks has received good reports from the subaru forums. Havent tried it. Any reports on the RP oil? Of course redline is great but Ive read many folks have BAD reports on the Mobil 1 stuff. PAO syn base stock ( like M1 uses) doesnt make a good lubricant.

[ddongbap]

big difference . No clunking into reverse , no grinding when downshifting , and easier shifting when extremely cold :thumbsup: . Don't knock it 'til you try it .

I did try it.

[Hershey]

I did try it. and what was your experience with MT-90 ? What are you using now and how's it working out for you ?

[kngrsll]

I did try it.

everyone i know how has used it, loves it. track geeks all over the country use it to protect their transmissions. do you have another opinion about it?

[swidd]

I also had positive experience with changing the oil to MT-90 GL-4. Gears are smooth in 10 Fahrenheit weather - no warm up needed. It takes a few thousand miles to notice it.

I also had a bad experience when I bought some synthetic valvoline GL-5 oil that the instant oil change place put in. It made it very sticky to shift gears, even in hot weather. So I bought MT-90 on my own, and took the GL-5 stuff out in less than 200 miles.

[Thirty-Nine]

I also had positive experience with changing the oil to MT-90 GL-4. Gears are smooth in 10 Fahrenheit weather - no warm up needed. It takes a few thousand miles to notice it.

I also had a bad experience when I bought some synthetic valvoline GL-5 oil that the instant oil change place put in. It made it very sticky to shift gears, even in hot weather. So I bought MT-90 on my own, and took the GL-5 stuff out in less than 200 miles.

I've never heard anything but positives about the Redline stuff. And yes, a Yaris can shift quite nicely. I've got the full NST bushing and short shifter kits, and it feels great. I'm sure some Redline would compliment it quite nicely.

[Lazerdot]

I'm using Amsoil Severe Gear 75w-90. My owner's manual recommended both GL4 and GL5. Since I AX and do track days the type I'm using made sense. I haven't had the shifting issues some have spoken about. The NST SSK I have was always a bit different then stock and so far no adverse changes.

[fidgell]

If anyone is interested, Canadian dealers charge CAD$82.95 for this.... Same price as for a coolant flush and change!

Small price to pay to protect the box!

[Lewis]

Just asking..........has ANYONE ever heard of a Yaris manual transmission failure?

I think that the box is hard to kill even with poor shifting skills. Poor shifting skills seems to damage the clutch on the Yaris- the box is practically indestructable.

What I believe we are talking about here is better "feel" to the shifter something 99% of Yaris owners couldn't care less about- but for the small group of owners who enjoy shifting (like me) I do believe profit in feel from a good GL4 synthetic.

[pokoki]

How easy it is to do yourself? I assume there is a drain plug and a fill hole, but where are they both located?

[pokoki]

I found my answer here:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8912

[fidgell]

I had the dealer replace the manual tranny fluid yesterday. Already I have noticed a better, smoother, gear change - especially in reverse! My Yaris has done 165000km and this is the first change.... They also replaced the coolant, didnt cost much more than DIY plus I didnt have to do it in the snow, or dispose of the waste stuff myself afterwards.

Im going to do the spark plugs myself at the weekend!

[Hershey]

which gear oil ? AMSOIL , REDLINE , other ?

[fidgell]

After calling a few places, who all stated that their systems recommended Toyota OE fluid, which surprised me, I went to Toyota and they agreed that their own stuff is the only one recommended by them... almost essential. I wouldve changed, but with every professional saying ths same thing and it already lasting 160k I guessed if it aint broke dont fix it and stayed with Toyota. Im not one for the aftermarket thing on a car like this and after all I trust Toyota with my choice of vehicle so I trust them with the box fluid.

I dont believe any claims of significant improvements with other fluids, and even if I still had a warranty Id stick with Toyota just for warranty protection. After all if its doing exactly what it should, why change it?

[yaris2010RS]

hey, its true, for alot of jobs its jsut not worth saving a few bucks to do it yourself vs take it to the dealer. then atleast u know it was done properly.

just a side note, i do my own oil changes and for a few of my friends also, disposing of the oils and w.e else u wise is easy and free (in ontario atleast) the government put a tax on oils and such when u buy it (extra like 5 bucks or something) and this allows u to drop off oil containers at any mr lube, penzoil, jiffy lube, canadian tire (anywhere that sells oil or changes oil) must by law take the oil from you to dispose of it properly free of charge.

[pokoki]

Well I changed my tranny fluid over the weekend, and all I can say is WOW. What a huge difference it made for my car. I had two quarts of Royal Purple in the garage, so I just used that.

This is a very easy DIY job. If you can change your own oil, you should be able to do this.

[Tonavi]

What's the best way to fill it back up? How do you siphon it up in there? You can't fit a bottle up to the fill plug.

[ecc_33]

I bought a tranny funnel than attached a piece of hose from the funnel to the hole in the tranny. than just poored the fluid in.

[Tonavi]

Did you fill it from the top or the bottom?

[yaris2010RS]

Did you fill it from the top or the bottom?

if u fill it from the bottom let us know how u did it :thumbup::clap:


on a serious note ive heard its best to fill it through the reverse sensor

[mazilla]

if u fill it from the bottom let us know how u did it :thumbup::clap:





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[yaris2010RS]

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lmfao! i thought he ment fill it from the drain plug

[ecc_33]

Did you fill it from the top or the bottom?

From the top

[YarisownerNOT]

'Better Shifting' is only your opinion. How much 'Better Shifting' are you going to get out of a Yaris?

I can't believe there is a forum for these things! LMAO I stumbled across it looking for a deal on RED LINE GL-4 for my Max. Do these Yaris things come stock with a tampon dispenser on the dash? I'd quarter one of these in reverse and give ya 4 car lengths! I'll even pull a coil pack! LMAO I registered just out of disbelief people would not only buy one of these but admit it online in a forum. I could think of just about anything I'd spend 13K on before I bought one of these sardine cans. I'd need to roll down a window and leave my legs hanging out just to be able to get laid in one of these gocarts! Tell me there's a poll post for the best fart muffler to u-bolt onto one of these and I'll shit myself! Sorry for laughing at you all...but I'm laughing at you all! ROFLAU I'm a real azzhole, the kind that bangs your girl then beats you up when you complain about it. I make you pay for the abortion and charge ya gas money for the date.

JK. These little buggers probably get sick gas mileage and they probably do corner good as a shifter cart. I wouldn't fit in one but I wouldn't mind not having to stop at every other gas station to pump $40 bucks of 93 from the 12:1's and revups.

[ecc_33]

I can't believe there is a forum for these things! LMAO I stumbled across it looking for a deal on RED LINE GL-4 for my Max. Do these Yaris things come stock with a tampon dispenser on the dash? I'd quarter one of these in reverse and give ya 4 car lengths! I'll even pull a coil pack! LMAO I registered just out of disbelief people would not only buy one of these but admit it online in a forum. I could think of just about anything I'd spend 13K on before I bought one of these sardine cans. I'd need to roll down a window and leave my legs hanging out just to be able to get laid in one of these gocarts! Tell me there's a poll post for the best fart muffler to u-bolt onto one of these and I'll shit myself! Sorry for laughing at you all...but I'm laughing at you all! ROFLAU I'm a real azzhole, the kind that bangs your girl then beats you up when you complain about it. I make you pay for the abortion and charge ya gas money for the date.

JK. These little buggers probably get sick gas mileage and they probably do corner good as a shifter cart. I wouldn't fit in one but I wouldn't mind not having to stop at every other gas station to pump $40 bucks of 93 from the 12:1's and revups.

Yea, your a douche bag:headbang: As you can see in my sig I have a 02 duramax that runs high 11's in the quarter mile :evil: I drive about 70 miles a day so got a yaris and it gets 44mpg on average. Mine is bone stock and will stay that way. I don't diss people on this forum for modding there cars. Maybe they aren't like you and I and don't like diesels or v8 cars. I don't care. I signed up just to figure out what was wrong with my car and keep and I on parts that i might need.

[mazilla]

I can't believe there is a forum for these things! LMAO I stumbled across it looking for a deal on RED LINE GL-4 for my Max. Do these Yaris things come stock with a tampon dispenser on the dash? I'd quarter one of these in reverse and give ya 4 car lengths! I'll even pull a coil pack! LMAO I registered just out of disbelief people would not only buy one of these but admit it online in a forum. I could think of just about anything I'd spend 13K on before I bought one of these sardine cans. I'd need to roll down a window and leave my legs hanging out just to be able to get laid in one of these gocarts! Tell me there's a poll post for the best fart muffler to u-bolt onto one of these and I'll shit myself! Sorry for laughing at you all...but I'm laughing at you all! ROFLAU I'm a real azzhole, the kind that bangs your girl then beats you up when you complain about it. I make you pay for the abortion and charge ya gas money for the date.

JK. These little buggers probably get sick gas mileage and they probably do corner good as a shifter cart. I wouldn't fit in one but I wouldn't mind not having to stop at every other gas station to pump $40 bucks of 93 from the 12:1's and revups.


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[MickZEL]

In your place I would have changed

[TRDblueyaris]

yes, every 30k miles.

[sergo]

I just called my local Toyota dealership and they said they use GL3 (or what is official Toyota oil) made by Esso (Imperial Oil)
Strange, no mentioning of GL3 on Redline or AMSOIL site.

TSB on AMS just mentions GL3 Category as obsolete.
http://www.amsoil.com/techservicesbulletin/drivetrain/tsb%20dt-2005-09-19%20automotive%20gear%20oils%20and%20manual%20tra nsmissiontransaxle%20lubes.pdf

[xbalance]

recently i have replace my manual gear oil after trying from amsoil to redline mt90, mt90 give me better shift feel. now i wonder how to change my clutch hose oil line where is the flush area.

[esse10]

I think in cold weather it could help with the shifting. Down here in texas where we only get below freezing once or twice a year I dont think it's worth changing out the tranny oil. My Car's 2009 maintenance schedule says to just check the tranny fluid. I'm not going to change it out until maybe 150-200k miles. I think you would have problems with the clutch plate and padel/slave cylinder before you would the gearbox, IMHO. :rolleyes:

[Kar98]

Never in my entire driving career have even considered changing the oil in a manual transmission. Your car would rust into nothing by the time this would become an issue.

[yaris2010RS]

does this thread pain anyone else? lol

[UberSilver]

I know it's an old post, but I thought I'd mention how well my 4x4 Toy PU responded to Redline MTL/MT90. Shifting became as smooth as silk, temps went down and noise level as well. It's Good Stuff!:wink:

Hello:

I have a 2007 Yaris with 75,000 miles and the 5-speed manual. Is there a scheduled maintenance for the manual transaxle?. That is, should the gear oil be changed at certain intervals?.

Thanks for any replies because I can find nothing regarding it.

[CueBall]

Sorry for digging up this old thread, but this is the one that got me to where I am today..
I recently had an axle seal replaced. I purchased MT90 to refill the trans. I had the dealer do the service. The seal is in and working fine, BUT I was thinking I would see improved shifting due to the MT90 being poured in.. I have not. If anything, it's slightly worse. :iono:
Do you think the dealer skipped using my provided MT90??? Could I tell by looking at it? Is MT90 a different color? They did charge me for a quart of their own oil, even thou I provided 2 qts (published capacity). When I asked about the oil charge I was told “it took a little more than 2 qts.”
I am seriously considering draining and re-filling it myself. Thoughts?

[tmontague]

In my experience mt-90 wasn't anything special. I switched to Amsoil MTG and haven't looked back.

However, there is no chance for more than 2 qts going in unless they either overfilled the crap out of it which you can't really do since it would pour out the upper fill hole. Or they messed up and wasted your mt-90 and/or leaked and lost a bunch when they refilled.

You shouldn't be charged anything if you provided your own fluids. Mt-90 iirc had a really bad smell to it and I believe it was a gold color. That said, most manual trans oils are very similar and I dont remember what Toyota's factory fill stuff is like

[SirDigby]

it depends on the dealership. most of them will just use a bulk oil from a local supplier. they are cheap asses....

[Kalispel]

Since my 2015 Yaris is technically almost four years old now - from sitting around a dealer lot in Colorado for almost a year (sigh) & then me owning/driving it for almost 3 years after that in the brutal heat/climate of Arizona, I decided to go ahead and schedule a manual transmission gear oil change with my regular Toyota 35K yellow service this morning. Nothing fancy, just the regular Toyota OEM manual gear oil recommended for our cars. I was out running various errands around town for about 3 hours after the work was done, and I did notice a positive difference in the shifting ease/smoothness of the gearbox, so it is preventative, peace-of-mind money well-spent in my opinion. I think that every 4 years or 35-40K is a good point to change it in manual transmission configurations, most especially if you live in regions with pretty harsh weather of some type, or tow/haul a lot with your car on a regular basis.

For those wondering about the dealership pricing of the service, it was $99.95 total for the manual gear oil change, which is reasonable when you break it down by yearly cost ($25/year). I am sure it is a lot cheaper to DIY, if you have the skills & equipment/tools/setting to do the work. The cost of the OEM full-synthetic 'yellow service' (oil/filter change, tire rotation, multi-point inspection, lube chassis, adjust parking brake, etc) was $76.95. My tires/brakes are still in good shape and have some life left to them (I figure until at least 45-50K), and no problems to report with car. I changed my engine/cabin air filters myself with OEM parts at 20K & plan to do it again before my next 40K dealership service. This has been a great little car thus far. :thumbsup:

[matti]

For what it's worth, I emailed my Toyota dealer with this question a while back, and the service manager responded:

"Toyota doesn't have a recommended mileage for transmission fluid. They recommend it gets inspected every 30K. Toyota now uses a lifetime fluid and may never need to be changed until the clutch needs replacing or maintenance. in general, many vehicles recommend a 90-100K."

Thoughts?

[beowulf]

For what it's worth, I emailed my Toyota dealer with this question a while back, and the service manager responded:

"Toyota doesn't have a recommended mileage for transmission fluid. They recommend it gets inspected every 30K. Toyota now uses a lifetime fluid and may never need to be changed until the clutch needs replacing or maintenance. in general, many vehicles recommend a 90-100K."

Thoughts?

I think $60 every 60,000 miles is a pittance to pay to ensure the transmission is well lubricated and lasts the lifetime of the vehicle. Personally, I stick to the 60,000 interval for manual transmission gear oil.

[zoidberg444]

The gear oil in mine was original (11 years/130,000 miles) when it finally got replaced when i did the clutch. It was pretty rancid. It seems a little happier for it since. I used some cheap semi synthetic GL4 75w90 gear oil. No issues so far. I will probably replace it at 200,000 miles which should be in 2021. I would have replaced it at 110,000 miles but i knew i was going to be doing the clutch soon so i thought it best to wait.

[soldout]

I now have over 206000 miles on my 2010 liftback and will be changing the gear oil in the MT next weekend. I dont experience grinding or hard shifting but I would like the trans to last as long as possible, still on the original clutch too. I am amazed at how reliable and maintenance free this car has been over the 6 years of ownership. 1 set of tires, 1 set of rotors, pads, shoes and drums, 1 battery which was replaced with a Optima Yellow Top, 1 drive belt, coolant and brake fluid change. I run Mobil1 15k mile oil and filter and change them both about twice a year. I also use a KNN washable air filter which I clean and oil once a year. I cannot think of many others cars that you can just drive with virtually no maintenance.

[crpt2008]

For goodness sake gents, stop the ridiculous myths.
Yaris manual transmission DON'T have a scheduled "oil change". For convenience it can be done when other maintenance comes by. Like replacing some oil seal, removing a transmission shaft, etc. Other than that forget it! Check oil level every 50,000 km and enjoy.
This is valid for basically ALL manual transmissions! Period. :w00t:

North Americans used to auto trans always come up with BS like this! Gosh! :eek:
No need to change oil, there's no "oil filter", there's no "oil pan". And YES, a manual trans is usually lighter, cheaper, easier to manufacture, return better performance, better consumption, with reduced or null maintenance! And so on...
These are a few myths spread over the comments! Remember this is NOT your traditional auto trans. There are some very good reasons why most of the planet don't like the old auto trans! ;-)
Cheers

[komichal]

If I understand the official servicing intervals correctly you should Inspect the oil every 48 months and Replace it if you run in under severe conditions or if it requires replacement. Which is quite vague statement and it actually gives weapons to both oil changers and oil keepers.

My opinion is that even Toyota cannot manufacture tranny so durable (and oil so magical) that it would still be "as new" after 13 years of service.

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[Zedicus]

For goodness sake gents, stop the ridiculous myths.
Yaris manual transmission DON'T have a scheduled "oil change". For convenience it can be done when other maintenance comes by. Like replacing some oil seal, removing a transmission shaft, etc. Other than that forget it! Check oil level every 50,000 km and enjoy.
This is valid for basically ALL manual transmissions! Period. :w00t:

North Americans used to auto trans always come up with BS like this! Gosh! :eek:
No need to change oil, there's no "oil filter", there's no "oil pan". And YES, a manual trans is usually lighter, cheaper, easier to manufacture, return better performance, better consumption, with reduced or null maintenance! And so on...
These are a few myths spread over the comments! Remember this is NOT your traditional auto trans. There are some very good reasons why most of the planet don't like the old auto trans! ;-)
Cheers

that mentality is the reason why the synchros in my XB are trashed.

in short, oil is hygroscopic, and worse in climates with large quick temperature swings. also, the synthetic oil itself will not breakdown per-sey, the additives (friction modifiers) and detergents will all happily break down over time.

believe what you want, toyota is no magician. they do make durable cars and they plan on most people being lacking in the maintenance department, no fluid should be in place 10+ years.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

+1 on replacing it. Especially if you're going to take the time and effort to check it, then might as well replace it.

[Jeanseb29]

I did a drain and fill on my 2011 30,000 km m/t a year ago after winter because when the trans was cold (-5C and colder) the first gear was really hard to engage and the car had to be fully stopped before the shifter would move forward in first gear. Problem stopped after 5-10 minutes of driving. Went with Amsoil 75w90 and no more problem last winter. Smooth shifting, even with a shorth shifter. Visualy the old trans oil looked like it was still good. Im planning on doing a second drain and fill this summer with the same oil.

[matti]

I recently had a drain and fill done with Red Line MT-LV in my 2017 Yaris hatch (65,000 miles) and the shifting is noticeably smoother.

[KermitAUS]

What about this oil?

NULON EZY-SQUEEZE Performance Smooth Shift Manual Gearbox & Transaxle Oil - 75W-90, 1 Litre

https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/nulon-nulon-ezy-squeeze-performance-smooth-shift-manual-gearbox-transaxle-oil---75w-90-1-litre/577668.html

[KermitAUS]

I assume this is the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOibx0-KOSk