2010 L.B. : Come with day running lights ..

[Hershey]

as a standard feature ? Thanks

[r3b3l]

hmm I dont have them soo not standard.

[CTScott]

They were standard on all US Yaris in 09, but were eliminated for 2010.

[ezhacker1]

i didnt get DRLs in my 09, not that i care

[TwoBearWisconsin]

I think they stopped being standard on the 09s. I don't have them on my 10, and I don't recall seeing them on the 09s that I shopped, either.

[CTScott]

I just found my 09 brochure. DRL was part of the "All-Weather Guard Package" on 09 LBs and wasn't offered on the 09 Sedans.

For 2010 this was from the "new car features":

2. Lighting
The daytime running light system has been discontinued on hatchback models for the U.S.A.

[yaris2010RS]

oh....my canadian 2010HB has drl that i need to disable.....

[r3b3l]

Yeah I am torn with this decision really. I like the safety aspect of having the lights on during the day because I have almost been ran off of the road 4 times :eyebulge: since having this car for 5 weeks now. But I don't like to have the lights on all the time, I prefer to use the parking lights during the day. Parking lights on and being able to maneuver quickly in this car as well as my :smoking:'STIG"like:burnrubber: driving ability has kept me out of a few accidents so far.

[Hershey]

Bummer . The '09 5 door we're trading in has D.R.L. . That came with ALL WEATHER GUARD . Bummer not on 2010 . Helps get a small discount on insurance . At least the life of the bulbs should be little longer . Not so easy to replace one in the liftback :thumbdown: . The sedan is a breeze to exchange the bulbs :thumbsup: . Thanks for input .

[yaris2010RS]

lol, i always drive with lights on no matter the time but i am very afraid of driving, seeing light being emmitted and when it does get dark not turning on my actual lights to activate my backlights (DRL does not illuminate rear lights) also i have the RS (canadian) S (USA) yaris so i have fog lights, love them to be on.... DRL do not turn them on.

last point, i'm a teen, i chill in parking lots with car running cuz its fucking cold now in the winter, i dont want to park, turn car off, pull hand break up one click, turn car on and go from there....


I agree DRL is definatly better then no lights, but if i'm gonna have my lights on all the time anyways....DRL is pointless and slows me down for when i dont want any lights at all.

[thebarber]

i unplugged my DRL module after week 1

[yaris2010RS]

okay, successfully removed it, and ha, barber, i beat u, its only been 2days :P

[upgradedyaris]

I have seen many Yaris without the full lights on at night because they think they're on since they have the day times. :laugh:

Pay attention!

[thebarber]

okay, successfully removed it, and ha, barber, i beat u, its only been 2days :P

check your fogs, slick

[CTScott]

check your fogs, slick

Good point - With the RS you have factory fogs, which won't work now that you removed the DRL module.

You have to ground the beige (on 09+ and orange on 06-08) wire on the DRL connector. You can jump it to the white with a black stripe wire to do it right on the connector.

[yaris2010RS]

lmao, okay, so i pulled it out this afternoon at 4:50pm, i posted around 4:59....but by 5:01 i had realized it disabled my fogs also...very gay, and by 5:06 the relay was back in :) its alot easier to plug in then unplug..... lol.

but for me to ground the beige wire i have to take out my radio for sure.... not enough room from steerwheel area to access it and work.

DNW barber....it will be out by the weekend. lol

[yaris2010RS]

and for the record with ppl saying its bolted in, nope, its hung on a clip.

jsut a side thought. i told my friend about the running light issue, he said on all cars (he drives an integera so he dont know shit!!) the day time running lights have a seperate fuse..... pull that out and ure good to go...... right?

[talnlnky]

any clue why DRL was discontinued? cost? design flaw? wtf?

[yaris2010RS]

my guess is cost, if it wasn't mandatory or needed in certain area's y bother..... yes they save maybe 40-60 bucks if not more per car, u say nothing....they sell 20,000 and save that much on each....they are laughing ($80,000-$120,000)

jsut to let u all know, nothing i jsut said is based on facts.... 100%guess. i dont even know how much the relay costs...

[thebarber]

and for the record with ppl saying its bolted in, nope, its hung on a clip.

jsut a side thought. i told my friend about the running light issue, he said on all cars (he drives an integera so he dont know shit!!) the day time running lights have a seperate fuse..... pull that out and ure good to go...... right?

ive know that you can just pull the fuse in the matrix, im sure you could find the fuse for it in the yaris...

i find stupid people w/ drl's are dangerous. i pulled up to a lady last night at 6pm (was dark already up here) and told her her headlights weren't on (no tail lights). she was pretty embarassed to find out she'd been driving around on just the drl's.

imo, they should make daytime running lights turn signal bulbs in most cars (like chevy often does it). then when it gets dark, you ideally notice that you can no longer see! dodge/chrysler noticed too that in a lot of cases, you can't see the turn signal going because of the drls, so now a lot of them will shut of the low beam drl of whatever side is blink w/ the turn indicator...

imo, you just need to know WHEN to turn on your headlights. (ie 1h before dusk and 1h after dawn, in rainy conditions (there is a sign in northern maine, iirc, that indicates that if your wipers are on, so too should your lights be), snow, heavy/hazy overcast, fog) but people just dont know/dont care, i guess

[wiirenet]

I have DLRs and I've gotten into the habit of almost always turning my lights on, is that a bad habit? Maybe when the summer comes I'll do it less, but yes I've caught myself having forgotten to turn my lights on at dark and I feel having smoked tail lights makes that even worse. But if I didn't have DLRs I would probably not turn them on all the time because I would remember I need them without dlr's tricking me!

[IllusionX]

i unplugged my DRL module after week 1

not necessarily for thebarber, but more for everybody... You might want to leave your DRL module plugged, and cut the biggest blue wire from the harness.

What i did was open up the module and cut the lead to the wire.


A bit of mod is needed for having the fogs as DRL.

[yaris2010RS]

so hold up........if i leave the module in and jsut cut the big blue wire the outside DRL will be disabled? that is much easier then grounding the beige wire..... is this forsure to work on the 2010?

[CTScott]

not necessarily for thebarber, but more for everybody... You might want to leave your DRL module plugged, and cut the biggest blue wire from the harness.

What i did was open up the module and cut the lead to the wire.


A bit of mod is needed for having the fogs as DRL.



That's correct - You can either leave the module in and cut the blue wire (capping off both sides) or you can pull the module and jump the orange (beige on 09+) wire to the white wire with the black stripe. Both methods make the DRLs stay off and allow the OEM fogs to work.

[yaris2010RS]

okay.....i gonna try that when i get home..... the module isn't very accessable to be attatching wires.....jsut gettign to it is very tight.

[bobby]

Why would anybody NOT want DRL's?? Anything that makes your car more visable is going to reduce your chance of an accident. I think they're great.

[yaris2010RS]

okay, well i attempted to remove the fuse for the DRL, toyota did a good job making this difficult..... that fuse also poweres ABS, windows, door locks, alarm and a few other randomness.... Y IN HELL DOES THE REAR WIPER HAVE ITS OWN FUSE BUT THE DRL DOESN'T..... lol. so in the morning after school before work gonna cut the wire...... if this is wrong and have to reattatch it i gonna be mad, lol. thats way too much work for this and also in a very very tight spot....

thanks again for the info

[CTScott]

okay, well i attempted to remove the fuse for the DRL, toyota did a good job making this difficult..... that fuse also poweres ABS, windows, door locks, alarm and a few other randomness.... Y IN HELL DOES THE REAR WIPER HAVE ITS OWN FUSE BUT THE DRL DOESN'T..... lol. so in the morning after school before work gonna cut the wire...... if this is wrong and have to reattatch it i gonna be mad, lol. thats way too much work for this and also in a very very tight spot....

thanks again for the info

There is definitely not a fuse that you can remove to disable it. The DRL module receives its logic power from the ECU-IG fuse, which powers many other system-critical parts.

[127.0.0.1]

it is made to be somewhat hard to disable

just like VSC off...in the US this is soon going to be mandatory for all vehicles
so they don't want to make it 'ez' to override

[ptitpiffute]

Why would anybody NOT want DRL's?? Anything that makes your car more visable is going to reduce your chance of an accident. I think they're great.

Hi there, I totally agree with you.
Then, why don't go further, and get your brakes off, disable airbags, abs and whatever makes the car safe ?????? Sorry I don't get it.
Also for those who forget to turn their lights on, mhmmmmm when it's dark and I don't see my speedometer, that tells me that maybe something shoud be turn on Dohhhhhhhhhhh !!!!

I've been driving here, in Canada, now for 7 years, was in France, before, and I find a lot safer to have DRLs, because you're more visible to others, but that's my own opinion. Litghts on a car are not there because it makes it pretty and look like a christmas tree :wink:

Drive safe

Ciao

[thebarber]

Sorry I don't get it.
Also for those who forget to turn their lights on, mhmmmmm when it's dark and I don't see my speedometer, that tells me that maybe something shoud be turn on Dohhhhhhhhhhh !!!!

the problem is, lots of cars nowdays, including the yaris, have lit speedometers that you can't see unless the car is ON. so when the car is on and the drl's are gone, i can definitely see how some people could think their lights ARE on, but they actually only have dim headlights/DRL's and do not have any tail lights.

drl's DO make you more visible, i agree, but when the conditions require, i turn on my headlights.

[devinlamothe]

I am not one of the dumb one's and know when to turn my headlights on (ie: when it gets dark), so I like DRL. The only thing I dislike is I have to clean the headlamps almost every day as the salt really reduced the range of the lights.

One thing I have noticed over the past couple of weeks is people driving around with their BREAK lights ON all the time. WTF is that all about? Seems like a ton of people around here are driving around looking like they are pressing both brake and gas pedals. lol

[thebarber]

I am not one of the dumb one's and know when to turn my headlights on (ie: when it gets dark), so I like DRL. The only thing I dislike is I have to clean the headlamps almost every day as the salt really reduced the range of the lights.

One thing I have noticed over the past couple of weeks is people driving around with their BREAK lights ON all the time. WTF is that all about? Seems like a ton of people around here are driving around looking like they are pressing both brake and gas pedals. lol

two-foot drivers? or were they vdubs w/ electrical problems? lol

i usually take a handful of snow and wipe down the headlights from time to time

[yaris2010RS]

the DRLs are definatly an added safety system and yes they are great. i personally think they should illuminate the rear also and to conteract this i always have my lights on anyways....but when i feel like creaping into my driveway after bed time or jsut feel like having car on and running but no lights, i like to be able to do so. i have personally yet to find myself only driving on DRL at night but i can see how it would/could happen.

my car is blazing blue and if u can't see it (in conditions where night nights (lowbeems) would not be required) you should not be on the road......

everyone has their own reasons to keep them or remove them.... its up to the user to decide.

[JBIZZ]

Why would anybody NOT want DRL's?? Anything that makes your car more visable is going to reduce your chance of an accident. I think they're great.

Some people forget to turn their rear lights on at night w/ them, which makes them more dangerous than not having them. This can also get one pulled over by the cops.

[yaris2010RS]

btw, i did it, instead of cutting the blue wire i opened up the thing and cut the connector for the blue wire inside and bent it away.... half inch gap enough?

[pawsplus]

Drat. I was bummed to find out that the Yaris doesn't automatically turn off the headlights when the driver's door opens (when car turned off). My 1994 Corolla did that and I got used to driving w/ the lights on all the time. I do feel that's safer. But the Yaris doesn't do that, and although my 2010's manual mentioned DRLs, the lights do NOT come on when I start the car so apparently I don't have them.

Yeah, I could just turn the lights on whenever I get into the car, but after 6 years in the Corolla of not having to remember to turn off the lights, I figure I've got a 1/100 chance of NOT screwing up and leaving them on. It WILL happen. So I dare not do it during the day.

Why in the world did they discontinue the DRLs? And if they did, why not make the lights go off automatically?

Car manufacturers make NO SENSE. Here I was all excited b/c I have the intermittant wiper option back (the 94 Corolla did not have it, believe it or not, and that can be really annoying on a misty day!) and they had to take something away to make up for it!

[why?]

there is a diy around here somewhere that will set that up for you. I disabled my drl's because they are worthless imo.

I am fully capable of turning on my lights when i need to.

[CTScott]

Here's the DIY for headlights off with the ignition. I was so used to having it on my Subaru that I had to do it on my Yaris.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14427&highlight=diy+headlight+key

[pawsplus]

Sorry, guys, but I'm not DIYing ANYTHING on my brand new car, LOL! Not that I could even if I wanted to. ;)