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Cutie Pie #2
01-13-2010, 10:52 AM
It has been very cold here and probably everywhere else, well my concern is I have noticed that the scan gauge temp. has been going up and down every time I let off the gas by about 20-30 degrees, also when it does that the temp. coming from heater goes up and down also. I also have notice in the morning when first start the car there is a noise for a second or two (sounds like a car without a muffler) that has only happen 2 times. Could the water pump be going bad or is this just a regular thing with the Yaris. All is fine after that except for what was mention above. I'm taking car in to dealer to get oil change and will ask them to check it out. Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this happen?

127.0.0.1
01-13-2010, 11:16 AM
It has been very cold here and probably everywhere else, well my concern is I have noticed that the scan gauge temp. has been going up and down every time I let off the gas by about 20-30 degrees, also when it does that the temp. coming from heater goes up and down also. I also have notice in the morning when first start the car there is a noise for a second or two (sounds like a car without a muffler) that has only happen 2 times. Could the water pump be going bad or is this just a regular thing with the Yaris. All is fine after that except for what was mention above. I'm taking car in to dealer to get oil change and will ask them to check it out. Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this happen?

yes have the dealer check it, this is not normal

the Yaris should behave like any other car. what you report is odd. sounds like low coolant

Cutie Pie #2
01-13-2010, 11:21 AM
[QUOTE=127.0.0.1;432400]yes have the dealer check it, this is not normal

the Yaris should behave like any other car. what you report is odd. sounds like low coolant[/QUOTE

The coolant level is a little below the max line.

b_hickman11
01-13-2010, 12:38 PM
It has been very cold here and probably everywhere else, well my concern is I have noticed that the scan gauge temp. has been going up and down every time I let off the gas by about 20-30 degrees, also when it does that the temp. coming from heater goes up and down also. I also have notice in the morning when first start the car there is a noise for a second or two (sounds like a car without a muffler) that has only happen 2 times. Could the water pump be going bad or is this just a regular thing with the Yaris. All is fine after that except for what was mention above. I'm taking car in to dealer to get oil change and will ask them to check it out. Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this happen?

Maybe something is wrong with your Scan Gauge.

127.0.0.1
01-13-2010, 01:23 PM
Maybe something is wrong with your Scan Gauge.

"also when it does that the temp. coming from heater goes up and down also"

if it were a scangauge error, the above can be explained by warm vs cold air mass in the
vehicle moving around during decel....but my piglet doesn't do it

Cutie Pie #2
01-13-2010, 01:30 PM
Maybe something is wrong with your Scan Gauge.


I could see that, but the inside temp.for the heat goes up and down also, to the point that it has a cold feel to it, and the coolant level is just below the max line, well anyway I'm going to get it look at on Friday, I will keep you posted on what happens.

127.0.0.1
01-13-2010, 01:42 PM
I could see that, but the inside temp.for the heat goes up and down also, to the point that it has a cold feel to it, and the coolant level is just below the max line, well anyway I'm going to get it look at on Friday, I will keep you posted on what happens.

plus an odd sound in engine....possible big air bubble in water lines

Yaris Hilton
01-13-2010, 03:29 PM
Take the radiator cap off with the engine cold. If it's not full to the cap with the engine cold, it doesn't matter what's in the coolant tank. The air bubble will allow for expansion of the coolant as it heats, it won't push any excess out into the recovery tank, and it won't make a sufficient vacuum to pull coolant out of the tank into the radiator. The system needs to start out with the radiator, water jacket and lines very nearly purged of all air to function properly.

Cutie Pie #2
01-14-2010, 10:30 AM
Take the radiator cap off with the engine cold. If it's not full to the cap with the engine cold, it doesn't matter what's in the coolant tank. The air bubble will allow for expansion of the coolant as it heats, it won't push any excess out into the recovery tank, and it won't make a sufficient vacuum to pull coolant out of the tank into the radiator. The system needs to start out with the radiator, water jacket and lines very nearly purged of all air to function properly.


I took radiator cap off and it was full there, well I'm taking it in tomorrow to get it checked out. I have change jobs and are alot closer to home, I only drive about 10 mins to work, so this maybe the reason why the temperature is doing what it's doing I just thought of that.

127.0.0.1
01-14-2010, 10:50 AM
I took radiator cap off and it was full there, well I'm taking it in tomorrow to get it checked out. I have change jobs and are alot closer to home, I only drive about 10 mins to work, so this maybe the reason why the temperature is doing what it's doing I just thought of that.

nope.

it should behave. it should get warm and stay warm. jumping around is not normal.

a car temp will -feel- different on corners as cold/warm air masses inside the cabin get thrown around,
but the electronics reporting a difference ? that is some internal problem

Yaris Hilton
01-14-2010, 10:52 AM
Just another thought: When you're feeling waves of cool air with the heat running, are you going around a curve or corner? Even at moderate cornering forces, the distribution of layered warm and cool air in the cabin shifts markedly.

Cutie Pie #2
01-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Just another thought: When you're feeling waves of cool air with the heat running, are you going around a curve or corner? Even at moderate cornering forces, the distribution of layered warm and cool air in the cabin shifts markedly.

Yeah that might be it too, but the temperature on my scan gauge will go up to about 186 where it should be but then when I either let of the gas or brake I see the temperature go slowly back to 168 and sometimes even down to 140 and then when I give it gas it goes back up to 190 then it is fine,but today I noticed it went down to 168 when I put it park and felt the temp. inside the car go down a little. And this was when the car was warmed up. The car had never done anything like this before, but I did have a longer commute before.

talnlnky
01-14-2010, 05:57 PM
wonder if your thermostat is phuxord... or a sensor is loose/malfunctioning

temp changes should only be like +/- 2F from cruise to brake... most of the time I don't see a change, unless it is early on in the commute.

b_hickman11
01-14-2010, 07:26 PM
and the coolant level is just below the max line,

Is this when the engine is cold or hot?

Cutie Pie #2
01-14-2010, 07:40 PM
Is this when the engine is cold or hot?

After 10 minute drive to work.

Cutie Pie #2
01-15-2010, 04:50 PM
Well got back from dealer, after all it was just low in coolant and they said with the colder temperature outside these cars act that way sometimes. I went ahead a got them to pressure check(no leaks found) the system and replace coolant with new anyway, they said all is good. So I feel better now.

TheSilkySmooth
01-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Hope service was free! Replace coolant? It s long Life coolant?! You just said coolant level was OK. I think the lied as usual.

Cutie Pie #2
01-15-2010, 06:31 PM
Hope service was free! Replace coolant? It s long Life coolant?! You just said coolant level was OK. I think the lied as usual.

It was free, well I prepaid (oil changes, coolant change, tire rotation, wipers) for 3 years when I purchased the car. They put what ever coolant that is required for the car. It was low when I checked before going, but I requested them to change it plus it was free.

TheSilkySmooth
01-16-2010, 08:59 AM
Not free U prepaid. How much was the pre-pay? Doesnt make economic sense - but its better than buying fabric protector and finish sealant I suppose. I absolutely doubt they dumped the coolant - maybe they added a dribble. BTW the coolant is supposed to last for 100K miles! Hope its not the dreaded water pump seal going on a toyota with toyota long life coolant syndrome. Our 05 Rav 4 water pump was dead at 57K miles 2.5 years ;(

Cutie Pie #2
01-16-2010, 11:01 AM
Not free U prepaid. How much was the pre-pay? Doesnt make economic sense - but its better than buying fabric protector and finish sealant I suppose. I absolutely doubt they dumped the coolant - maybe they added a dribble. BTW the coolant is supposed to last for 100K miles! Hope its not the dreaded water pump seal going on a toyota with toyota long life coolant syndrome. Our 05 Rav 4 water pump was dead at 57K miles 2.5 years ;(


The prepaid premium service was $800 included all of this for 3 years unlimited miles(coupon book):
Oil Changes
Cabin air filter
Tire rotations
Coolant service
Wiper Blades
Car washes
loaner car
Plus you get the extended warranty for 6years 100K

I thought it was a pretty good deal at the time I purchased the car. They said water pump was ok, so we'll see.