Bought a new Sedan, now I want the 3 door liftback.

[Dec24th]

Ok,
I'm a person that can't decide on anything so quickly.
I bought a 2010 Yaris Sedan just before Thanksgiving 09. Now 7 weeks and 2 days later, I've got a change of heart.
I want to go back to the same Toyota dealership and trade in my 7 week old sedan to a new hitchback. Is this a dumb move? It seems like I am in a good position and good timing to do the trade in now. It has under 1850 miles on it.
I am fully away the car has lost its value the second we drove it off the lot and I will be losing money if I trade it in. But I want to be happy and get the model I really want.

Please anyone, give me your advice.

Each time I see a hitchback it makes me want it more and more and makes me hate my sedan more and more. The 3 door is more my personality and its sleeker and a sedan is not suitable for me right now and in the future (no kids ever!)

ToRn between doors,
Allan

[LA Yaris]

Why did you not just buy the 3 Door HB the first time ??

What were you thinking about when you got the Sedan ??

Honestly I would just stay with the Sedan, when I bought mine I just got the bassic package. A few weeks later I wanted the S, But in the long run everything work out. Now all the work I did to my car is worth it. I would not trade it in for the world.

[Yaris Hilton]

I went thinking I wanted a three door, looked at both of them closely and decided the sedan was better. I've never regretted the decision.

[YAR1S]

Get a hatch, you wont regret it! IMO the sedan isnt styled quite like the LB... looks too much like a corolla and got an ugly back end. If you dont have kids and want a sporty ride, get the hatch!

[Doc Zaius]

Life can't be to pleasant if you're constantly hating your car. Even though it will cost you, your mental health will thank you if you get the hatch! :thumbsup:

[Dec24th]

to Yar1s and Doc,
Yes. and yes! I spoke with my mom, who is the co-buyer/signer, and she seems ok with the idea of being in the dealership for another 8 hours.
Now, I know I will be losing money and probably more but I will be much more happy and healthier. and I know I wont regret it!

I want it in Yellow Jolt but my region and dealer does not carry it in yellow! The closest one I can find is in Cincinnati. If I get my dealer to ship one from Cincinnati in the color I' TRULY love on a car, then I will be forever happy! How much do you think shipping will be? If I can't get it shipped, then I'll stick with black.


I won't have kids and I can sacrifice some trunk space, I think I'll be ok with two less doors and less trunk space.

Thank you guys.
More advice and input is welcome,
Aa

[YarisSedan]

You would probably be out of loss about 2-4 grand. New car depreciates soon as you drive it off the lot. Dealer can no longer sell it as a new car but as a used car. Honestly its a really dumb move to do this unless you really can not stand the sedan. I think also you loose all the taxes that you spend the registration etc. Lots of stuff you can not recoupe when you trade it in. So really you might be out 3-5 grand down the toilet. Look up KBB trade in value for you car. Thats what you are expected to get for it. If its financed you will end up upside down on the loan big time. You will owe way more than the car you are going to is even worth.

They will pay off your old one than transfer the remaining balance of your loan and then pile the leftoever you still owe on top of your new loan and your car payments will go up and you have a car thats kbb value new is still worth less than the car you were in.

[Hershey]

you may be able to get $12,500 > $13,250 for a trade . There's a $750 TOYOTA rebate at this time in your region to help with the gap . You should be able to get an additional dealer discount of $750 > $1,000 to make the change more worth it . We got the $750 TOYO rebate and the $ 750 dealer discount . The REBATE from TOYOTA benefits both parties . The $750 is money back in the dealers pocket . Thus a discount of their own is not out of the question . The longer you wait the more money you'll lose . I figure the YARIS loses around $85 a month for trade in value . Plus with gas prices starting to rise the rebates and discounts may disappear or be less due to higher demand . It's a crap shoot . GOOD LUCK .

[redglare45]

You would probably be out of loss about 2-4 grand. New car depreciates soon as you drive it off the lot. Dealer can no longer sell it as a new car but as a used car. Honestly its a really dumb move to do this unless you really can not stand the sedan. I think also you loose all the taxes that you spend the registration etc. Lots of stuff you can not recoupe when you trade it in. So really you might be out 3-5 grand down the toilet. Look up KBB trade in value for you car. Thats what you are expected to get for it. If its financed you will end up upside down on the loan big time. You will owe way more than the car you are going to is even worth.

They will pay off your old one than transfer the remaining balance of your loan and then pile the leftoever you still owe on top of your new loan and your car payments will go up and you have a car thats kbb value new is still worth less than the car you were in.

Yup, +1 on what he said. If I were in your position, I would only trade it if $$ was no issue and losing that money wouldn't hinder my economic situation. I'd say stick w/ the sedan. :smile:

[Rand0m0sityxX]

You would most likely be upside down on your loan, which is like someone else said, they'll pay off what they can and the rest gets transfered to you new loan, so you will pay more than the 3 door is worth.

Why did you choose so fast is my question?

You always want to be sure of what you want before a purchase. Cars lose a lot of Value once driven off the lot that first day, and Its hard to not pay more than the car is worth once purchase if you change your mind.

I've just really gotten to wanting a Yaris, and tho I'm only looking at the lift backs ( I hate sedans SUV or hatchback for me) I have been researching into it, and I have test driven a 3 door today.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

It's really up to you. You can make the sedan look sporty; i.e. look at my pics (not my garage, but my thread pics). Also, if your liking of Jolt Yellow is only from the Internet, be prepared to see it in person. It's nothing like the website. It's more of a pastel yellow, which I don't like pastel colors. If I were in your position though, I wouldn't want to take a big hit.

[scape]

suck it up and accept your choice. nothing good will come of trying to get the hatch in your current situation. your best bet is to wait around 1.5 years and sell it as a private party sale. you'll get maximum value before the 2 year mark and still have gotten some use out of the sedan; which ofcourse you may want something other than a yaris by then, or they may offer an even cooler yaris.
i'd wait.

[chriswb]

Trading your car in so soon is a terrible idea. You have a very nice car there - be happy with what you've got!

[YAR1S]

to Yar1s and Doc,
Yes. and yes! I spoke with my mom, who is the co-buyer/signer, and she seems ok with the idea of being in the dealership for another 8 hours.
Now, I know I will be losing money and probably more but I will be much more happy and healthier. and I know I wont regret it!

I want it in Yellow Jolt but my region and dealer does not carry it in yellow! The closest one I can find is in Cincinnati. If I get my dealer to ship one from Cincinnati in the color I' TRULY love on a car, then I will be forever happy! How much do you think shipping will be? If I can't get it shipped, then I'll stick with black.


I won't have kids and I can sacrifice some trunk space, I think I'll be ok with two less doors and less trunk space.

Thank you guys.
More advice and input is welcome,
Aa



dont let the small trunk trick you.... BE SURE TO GET THE 60/40 SPLIT SEATS!!! you WILL regret not getting them. When you slide the seats forward... you can store soda bottles, milk gallons, and beer in the wedge it creates .... this is great seeing as stuff likes to roll around in there!:rolleyes:


I dont like the yellow but if that is what floats your boat go for it!

[Hershey]

quite sure the sliding , split , reclining rear seats are a standard feature for all 2010 YARIS hatchbacks . The 2010 3 door we just got has it .

[JumpmanYaris]

I LOOOOOVE MY SEDAN all it needs is LOVE!!!:wink:

[wooverstone8]

I want to go back to the same Toyota dealership and trade in my 7 week old sedan to a new hitchback. Is this a dumb move?



IMHO It's a simply a bad financial move to trade in a new car that soon. If you decided to trade in your sedan for a 3-door lift back--I would honestly consider taking a thorough test drive of the 3-door liftback before you decide to trade in your sedan. After the test drive write down things that you like and dislike with the lift back and compare it to the things that you like and dislike with the sedan. After you test drive the lift back you may find that you like the ride quality of the sedan a lot better.

[yaris-me]

Use the money on modifying your sedan. After a few months you'll be OK.

[talnlnky]

I won't have kids and I can sacrifice some trunk space, I think I'll be ok with two less doors and less trunk space.

Thank you guys.
More advice and input is welcome,
Aa

OK... first off, the Hatch has about 3 times as much usable cargo area. For anybody who disagrees, I ask of you, How many pallets have you fit in your sedan? How many bale's of hay, how many full sized mountain bikes, How many entertainment centers & desks?

In my hatch i've carried a
Pier 1 Desk that measured roughly 40x66x24
70lb bale of hay
two pallets at the same time
two full sized mountain bikes (GT + Cannondale)
32" LCD

i am always amazed at how much the sedan can carry once you fold the rear seats down flat.... I don't understand why anybody would want to buy the sedan. The Hatch is like driving around with a tiny truck bed.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

OK... first off, the Hatch has about 3 times as much usable cargo area. For anybody who disagrees, I ask of you, How many pallets have you fit in your sedan? How many bale's of hay, how many full sized mountain bikes, How many entertainment centers & desks?

In my hatch i've carried a
Pier 1 Desk that measured roughly 40x66x24
70lb bale of hay
two pallets at the same time
two full sized mountain bikes (GT + Cannondale)
32" LCD

i am always amazed at how much the sedan can carry once you fold the rear seats down flat.... I don't understand why anybody would want to buy the sedan. The Hatch is like driving around with a tiny truck bed.

It all depends on what you'll be carrying in your car. I agree, the LB is better if you need to bring big crap; however, I carry around people and luggage. So, I needed the rear seats plus a bigger trunk.

I was able to move a good amount of a large master bedroom (nothing big, but lots of boxes and stuff). I've carried a large cooler and some boxes with two additional people. I've fit a ladder, snowboards, etc while having my sub in the back. lol. Don't ask me to carry a bike or a big screen tv tho. :laugh:

[fujiwaru]

i'd say stick with the sedan for a few months before considering trading in.

[specialeducator]

Toms River- my home town!

I drive an '08 sedan and really like it. My wife drives a '10 3 door and we both really like it. Except- we will always take the sedan in highways simply because it handles better in windy conditions (drove my car across the Verazano bridge in high winds recently).

As others have said- you will take a hit- only question is how much. Gateway Toyota is infamous for selling lots of useless add ons the jack the price up.

[nemelek]

I don't know why you are asking for advice. It sounds like your mind is already made up. In the fall you might really want a 2011 after getting your HB. The real issue is if you can be happy with anything for the long term.

[RUFFSTUFF]

..., I ask of you, How many pallets have you fit in your sedan? How many bale's of hay, how many full sized mountain bikes, How many entertainment centers & desks?


I have an Expedition, 5x8 utility trailer and a 6x12 V-nose enclosed trailer for the good stuff. Well, you asked!

[RUFFSTUFF]

Oh yeah, trying to trade your car in now? FOOLISH! Way too many little 4-cylinder cars were sold last year well under MSRP due to rebates and the CARS program. The dealer will use that against you (even though the dealer still gets paid the monies) and you will get "pennies on the dollar" for your trade. Besides, the 3-door hatch looks ridiculous, like a big RC car.

[roxy1]

ill just be blunt. trading in a car after a few months of ownership is perhaps one of the stupidest financial decisions a person could possibly make.

you should just suck it up and learn to like something about what you have got. someone else cosigned on this car for you, and i think they would also be foolish to go along with this trade, which will cause you to owe a fair amount more than the new car will be worth. keep driving the sedan for a few years, then trade it in on something (or sell it yourself). in 5 years there are going to be lots of interesting choices in the small car segment.

[DevilGirl]

IMHO It's a simply a bad financial move to trade in a new car that soon. If you decided to trade in your sedan for a 3-door lift back--I would honestly consider taking a thorough test drive of the 3-door liftback before you decide to trade in your sedan. After the test drive write down things that you like and dislike with the lift back and compare it to the things that you like and dislike with the sedan. After you test drive the lift back you may find that you like the ride quality of the sedan a lot better.

To OP: This is a very good idea. I'd say it's a safe assumption that you liked something about the sedan because you bought that over the LB originally. What's to say you won't change your mind again in the near future as your circumstances change? Kids is not the only reason for wanting access to the rear seats more easily. Friends, perhaps?

Weigh the pros and cons of both vehicles and how that applies to current and possible future circumstances in your life before putting yourself into a seriously bad financial situation. Unless you magically win the lottery, left a huge monetary gift from a deceased relative, or you obtain an extremely high paying job, it's really hard to get out of debt once you're there. I speak from experience. You take 2 steps forward, just to have something else pop up, causing you to take 3 steps back.

Hope this helps!!




Besides, the 3-door hatch looks ridiculous, like a big RC car.

I would have to highly disagree with you on this statement, RuffStuff. The LB is identifiable on the roadway or in a parking lot, whereas the sedan just blends in with the crowd (the only way I can tell it's a Yaris sedan is by seeing the badging on the ass).

I love my LB for it's uniqueness. It's obviously different from all the sedans on the road, but it's also very different from all other subcompact LB's on the road as well.

[hyprmiler]

I went thinking I wanted a three door, looked at both of them closely and decided the sedan was better. I've never regretted the decision.

Sedan > All :wub:

[DerFlosser]

This is interesting because you appear so passionate about the liftback but you bought a sedan. Can I assume that was what was on the lot at the time? As stated previously...it would be a disaster to trade the car in now, quite possibly the worst financial decision you could make to really gain - nothing. These are cool little cars but man...they are commuter econocars. To get turned upside down by many thousands of dollars would be counter-intuitive to what the car stands for. I say keep the sedan, learn to like what you have and if you really don't want or like it, trade it in around the 2 year mark. I believe that you be your best economy of scale (and that is selling on the private market).

[eht13]

the sedan just blends in with the crowd (the only way I can tell it's a Yaris sedan is by seeing the badging on the ass).

Really? I think the sedan also clearly stands out from the crowd... especially if the view you have of it includes the front end.

Anyway, I really like my sedan, but I also really like the hatchbacks... both the 3-door and 5-door. They're different, but they're similar enough that I agree with Toyota's decision to call them all "Yaris" here.

[Kal-El]

I would have to highly disagree with you on this statement, RuffStuff. The LB is identifiable on the roadway or in a parking lot, whereas the sedan just blends in with the crowd (the only way I can tell it's a Yaris sedan is by seeing the badging on the ass).

I love my LB for it's uniqueness. It's obviously different from all the sedans on the road, but it's also very different from all other subcompact LB's on the road as well.

The sedan looks like nothing else on the road. It's closest styling comparison is the Corolla and Camry and even they look completely different never mind the size differences.

[Kal-El]

To the OP, I'd say keep the sedan. They're better. :wink:

If you have spare cash, and it seems that you do considering you're willing to trade at such a loss, use it for mods. Get a body kit and a nice set of wheels and a drop and throw on a rear spoiler. You'll be glad as hell that you bought a sedan.:smile:

[MadMax]

Life's too short to drive a car you don't like, trade your sedan for the better Yaris! :biggrin:

[tomato]

OP. Tell us again really specifically why you want a liftback again? I'd be curious to see your pros and cons for each style.

Ultimately, the heart wants what the heart wants, so if you really want it that bad, go for it. :iono: However, I would highly recommend that you spend some time test driving one just to be sure before you order it.

People think the difference between the Yaris Sedan and the LB is only cosmetic, but it's really a different car.

I LOVE hatchbacks myself, and haven't owned anything else for a lot of years and would not consider a sedan. On the other hand, I've never exactly hated a car. I was too happy to have wheels to take me places, and believe me, I've driven some rust buckets back in my younger days ! ;) How can you hate a car?!! What's that poor thing done to you, lol? :smile:

[RedRide]

Ok.....
One must be happy with and somewhat passionate about a car, otherwise what is the point etc?

Having said that, have you considered selling it privately? It should be a quick sell with super low mileage and with the warantee still intact.

You will still loose money but, not as much as trading it in.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

What's with all this hating from both sides? Both the sedan and the LB are great cars with separate entities. I don't know why Toyota decided to call the sedan a Yaris for. But anyway, stop with the hating, from both sides.

[hatchbackkid82]

Stick with the sedan, i have a LB and i love my car, but sometimes i wish i had a bigger trunk and more room.

[Dec24th]

After some reconsideration and weighing pros and cons, I will stick with the Sedan. I'm going to suck it up and love my car! Maybe from two years from now, I'll be selling my car to pay it off to get a diff model.
Ever since I joined this website, I've been looking at members cars and my eyes were physically attracted to the liftbacks more than the sedans. That was the main cause why I was thinking of switching models.

I should just lease. lol

Thank you guys for your advice and input.

[YarisSedan]

OK... first off, the Hatch has about 3 times as much usable cargo area. For anybody who disagrees, I ask of you, How many pallets have you fit in your sedan? How many bale's of hay, how many full sized mountain bikes, How many entertainment centers & desks?

In my hatch i've carried a
Pier 1 Desk that measured roughly 40x66x24
70lb bale of hay
two pallets at the same time
two full sized mountain bikes (GT + Cannondale)
32" LCD

i am always amazed at how much the sedan can carry once you fold the rear seats down flat.... I don't understand why anybody would want to buy the sedan. The Hatch is like driving around with a tiny truck bed.

Ive carried a 36 inch lcd in my car before also fit a large mountain bike in the trunk. Did require removing of the wheel though.

[tomato]

Oh, I always remove the wheel when I transport my mtn bike in the back of my car, but it takes seconds.

[roxy1]

After some reconsideration and weighing pros and cons, I will stick with the Sedan. I'm going to suck it up and love my car! Maybe from two years from now, I'll be selling my car to pay it off to get a diff model.
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smart move. besides, in 2 years (??) a new yaris model will be out and you know you will be looking at that. by going the route you have chosen you will be in a better position at that time.

[maryinredding]

I hate to say it but you could have had the best of both worlds if you had gotten the 5 door hatchback. I have the 3 door hatch and I love it but I am a station wagon gal at heart and would really like the 5 door. I just sold my PT Cruiser which is the 5 door hatch and I miss the back doors. Maybe that was a factor when you purchased your sedan. If you were going to haul people then that would be the best way to go. I don't have kids to haul anymore so it really didn't matter. If I have something too big to put in the very back, I just push the seat forward and I have plenty of room.

[Yaris Hilton]

A nice thing about the sedan is that a big trunk full of stuff doesn't cut into your passenger space.

[Dec24th]

what if I Trade it in and then get a certified pre owned liftback valued at $13k. My trade in value for my 2010 would be about $13k--modest estimate.
I would owe less than what I currently owe?

[Aothachos]

one thing i like about my sedan that beats the hatchback on is the RPM meter, hatch doesn't come with it, only the sedan does stock =P. Otherwise if i can go back in time I would pick the sedan still....but in manual

[Aothachos]

What's with all this hating from both sides? Both the sedan and the LB are great cars with separate entities. I don't know why Toyota decided to call the sedan a Yaris for. But anyway, stop with the hating, from both sides.

yea they should've kept it the name Belta or Vios :biggrin:

[Kal-El]

yea they should've kept it the name Belta or Vios :biggrin:

Yeah, in a way I wish the sedan was named "Vios" in the US. I like "Yaris" as well, but the distinction between the two models would be nice. "Belta" definitely wouldn't have worked in the US. It's a lousy sounding name. Economically for Toyota, it was necessary to market the two together. It costs a ton of money for each individual model name a company markets.

[eht13]

what if I Trade it in and then get a certified pre owned liftback valued at $13k. My trade in value for my 2010 would be about $13k--modest estimate.
I would owe less than what I currently owe?

Honestly, I've wondered about this a little too. My car is paid off though. But just wondering how dealers would react to essentially an even trade, or possibly even a scenario where my trade-in value is slightly higher than their asking price (in the case of used hatchbacks, for example). Or in the case of new cars, wondering how open they would be to negotiating close to my trade-in value. I'm nowhere near actually doing this, but it has floated around in my head sometimes...

[Sidicas]

Also, if your liking of Jolt Yellow is only from the Internet, be prepared to see it in person. It's nothing like the website. It's more of a pastel yellow, which I don't like pastel colors..
Quoted for truth.. On the Toyota's website Bayou Blue looks like a sky blue color but in reality it's quite a dark color.. I was glad the salesguy showed me the color chart before ordering it. I brought in a copy of the Yaris I built on Toyota's website and the Bayou Blue color was so totally different I was shocked.

In the end, after a lot of consideration, I ended up ordering it anyway, but certainly, nothing sucks more than not getting what you think you're getting.. A little disappointed toyota doesn't offer a lighter blue colored Yaris, but oh well..

If you decided to trade in your sedan for a 3-door lift back--I would honestly consider taking a thorough test drive of the 3-door liftback before you decide to trade in your sedan.
Absolutely AGREE!!! Personally I found the visibility of the Liftback wasn't quite as good as the Sedan and it made me a little more nervous when moving into the left lane and merging into traffic.. I found myself looking through the mirror and struggling to get a good view of the blindspot without the driver's headrest getting in the way..

But eventually I got over it.. I couldn't quite put my finger on why the LB had less visibility, perhaps a bigger blind spot or something, or maybe it's just my imagination.. But definitely I still find merging left to be much more awkward than the sedans that I've been driving all my life. With a sedan, it's more of a quick glance to check the blindspot and in my hatch I do more of a glance + lean forward to make sure there's no motorcycles or something there.

Edit:

Definitely if I was this guy looking to trade in the brand new sedan.. I wouldn't do that.. I'd give the sedan to a family member and have THEM trade in their old car for a hatchback and then take THAT new car..

I agree with everybody who says trading in a brand new car is a very bad idea.. Give it to a family member, take their old car, and trade that in for a hatch..

[Ramblin yari]

to Yar1s and Doc,
If I get my dealer to ship one from Cincinnati in the color I' TRULY love on a car, then I will be forever happy!

Famous last words.

[Sidicas]

Famous last words.

I can see it now... The first time somebody says his yellow hatchback looks like a giant twinkie on wheels, he'll take it back to the dealer the next day..

[derickveliz2]

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I like the LB and the Sedan, I went for the Sedan because I have a kid and when I got mine there was no 5 door LB.
:thumbsup:

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[shaneeezy]

Otherwise if i can go back in time I would pick the sedan still....but in manual

I feel you, brutha.

[Ramblin yari]

I feel you, brutha.

:wub: