2010 Yaris RS Rare?

[YarisBC]

I got a call from my local Toyota dealer today and my long awaited 5 door RS arrival has been pushed back another month. Bought the car in October, looks like I have to wait until March to get it.

I've got $7000 worth of upgrade parts for this car sitting at the dealership waiting to be installed, when the car finnally arrives from Japan.

Pretty much all of the advertised colors are not available on the RS models. My first three color choices were not available, so I went with red. I don't think any of the premium paint colors are available in Canada.

I've looked all over for a 2010 Rs, I found a couple used 09's, but no 10's. So did Toyota short supply these cars to Canada/USA? There is quite a lot of advertising for this model, but whats the point if you have to wait 6+ months to get the car? May as well call the car limited or special order?

I haven't seen any 2010's RS on any lots or even in display rooms. I hope I haven't committed to buying a car that doesn't even exist.

Does Toyota do this with all of their models/makes? Does my situation sound normal for Toyota?


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Advertising the car as a regular model on the Toyota CA website.
http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/7/wo/Home.Vehicles.Go.YarisHatchback-3FKsR5lum1JExsbIabULoM/3.7?v124000e.html#

[thebarber]

RS is as with the newer models, the 5dr LE's can come REALLY loaded....only differences between a loaded LE and an RS are the body kit/spoiler, rims, interior colours....

that, and the RS at $19-20k is a hard sell when a corolla or matrix is up around there

[Doc Zaius]

Red RS 5-door FTW! Good luck with your wait... I had to wait about 3 months back in '06. Looking forward to seeing it post-mods! :biggrin:

[YarisBC]

RS is as with the newer models, the 5dr LE's can come REALLY loaded....only differences between a loaded LE and an RS are the body kit/spoiler, rims, interior colours....

that, and the RS at $19-20k is a hard sell when a corolla or matrix is up around there

The RS is fully loaded. Funny thing about the LE upgrade packages. By the time you pick a couple of them, it costs more or as much as the RS with less in it. I originally didn't want to power windows but it would of cost me more money to not have that option.

I was in the market for a fuel efficient, fun to drive, and reliable car. My main car was a done up 92 GT4 RC, now its my summer car. My GT4 costs anywhere from $1000 to $4000 a month in parts to drive it full time. If you buy one of those imports from Japan and put more than 30000km a year on it, or go from 0 to 100 in 5 seconds in it. Then make sure you have a fat wallet to keep it going. I don't have the cash to drive my other car year round so I had been looking for something reliable since last summer.

I was going to buy a Matrix AWD, but they only come in automatic here, sooo no thanks. I can't stand auto's and I live in the rocky mountains, it's good times when your driving up an icy hill and your auto. trans. decides to pop into another gear and send you fish tailing.

I didn't like the looks of anything Toyota has made 2000+ until I came across a dealership special edition 09 Yaris RS in Calgary AB. (Country Hills Showroom, its probably still there.) I was sold on that Yaris as soon as I saw it. $31000 for the car. Now, I could of got a Corolla or Matrix loaded for that, but man that car looks sweet.

So with a 31k budget in mind I went back to B.C. to a local dealer and had them price out a similar package for me. Major difference with what I'm getting compared to that show room car is that all of my parts are TRD, and I got O-Z WRC rims, oh and mine will be a 2010 not an 09.

So I'm pretty excited to get the car, I just don't understand why Toyota would advertise a car for sale, when there isn't a single one across the entire country on a lot. Pointless?

[thebarber]

i hear ya yarisBC...not a lot of RS's kicking around

i have an almost-as-base-as-you-can-get yaris...

what the hell did you buy for the $7000 worth of parts? w/ OZ wrc rims, im sure thats like 1500 of it...

btw, no awd matrix in any country ever came with a manual transmission

@echo_hrs: when are you dropping that RS? ;)

[YarisBC]

i hear ya yarisBC...not a lot of RS's kicking around

i have an almost-as-base-as-you-can-get yaris...

what the hell did you buy for the $7000 worth of parts? w/ OZ wrc rims, im sure thats like 1500 of it...

btw, no awd matrix in any country ever came with a manual transmission

@echo_hrs: when are you dropping that RS? ;)

The rims and rubber are my biggest cost, Superturismo WRC white Rims and I got Nokian WR 215/40R17 for rubber. I have the same Nokians on my other car and they are amazing all weather (not all season) tires. Very good in snow and rain, only downside I found with them is that they aren't very good at 200kmh\125ish mph or faster when its really hot out, but I don't even know if a Yaris can go that fast?

I got some comsmetic extras like the rally spoiler etc. I got a top strut bar, its red and will look cool in that car, but I doubt I'll be going fast enough to notice it.

For TRD parts I got the full quick shift kit, boot and carbon fiber shift knob. I got the rear sway bar. The performance shocks. The lowering springs kit. Air Filter and the exhaust system. TRD stuff in Canada is a rip off BTW. Some stuff costs about 30% more to get it here.

I got some other stuff like the paint protection kit, and a dvd player with screen, but it must not be that big of a deal of an upgrade or I would remember ordering it haha. I'll have to look at home on the quote sheet.

[thebarber]

damn man....you rolled all of that into the loan? frick...

should have just bought most of that junk aftermarket

nokian WR though? what an odd choice....should have just got some snow's for the stock RS wheels and run something good for summer...but thats my view....i have space, time, and money to swap wheels twice a year

[Doc Zaius]

....should have just got some snow's for the stock RS wheels and run something good for summer...

Word. Although maybe his location in BC doesn't necessitate proper winter tires...?

[WeeYari]

Word. Although maybe his location in BC doesn't necessitate proper winter tires...?

and I live in the rocky mountains, it's good times when your driving up an icy hill

Umm, yeah, I'd say proper winters would be necessitated. :rolleyes:

@OP - they do exist, and you will get it...eventually. Just have to wait it out.

[supmet]

holy.crap. 30 grand on a yaris and its still mostly stock...

I would cancel the order and buy a bone stock 5 dr and build a faster, better handling yaris with a nicer body kit and better sound system for 22-25k tops.

[YarisBC]

damn man....you rolled all of that into the loan? frick...

should have just bought most of that junk aftermarket

nokian WR though? what an odd choice....should have just got some snow's for the stock RS wheels and run something good for summer...but thats my view....i have space, time, and money to swap wheels twice a year

I have General Altimax Arctic Winter tires for the RS stock wheels, they are decent. Area that I live in I get two months of decent summer weather, but it usually snows at least once in those two months. Also one of the main roads I travel always has frost in the morning, and freak hail storms that bury the roads are common in August. So summer treads are a poor choice for my area for anyone who is up driving early in the morning or night.

I've used the WR for a year now on my GT4, year round and really like them.

Also the financing is below 2% or lower right now, you can get 0% if you find an 09. The dealer didn't up charge me for any of the parts, its at cost. They even ordered some of the parts for me through US dealerships which saved me a bunch of money. Toyota Canada doesn't have the same agreement with TRD USA that Toyota US has. They make their money from the compound loan interest, which isn't much with how much I'm putting down and the term length along with the low financing percentage. And best of all even the aftermarket parts, labour and rims are covered by the warranty.

[Doc Zaius]

I have General Altimax Arctic Winter tires for the RS stock wheels, they are decent. Area that I live in I get two months of decent summer weather, but it usually snows at least once in those two months. Also one of the main roads I travel always has frost in the morning, and freak hail storms that bury the roads are common in August. So summer treads are a poor choice for my area for anyone who is up driving early in the morning or night.

Good reason. :thumbsup:

[YarisBC]

holy.crap. 30 grand on a yaris and its still mostly stock...

I would cancel the order and buy a bone stock 5 dr and build a faster, better handling yaris with a nicer body kit and better sound system for 22-25k tops.

Yah if I was living in the US that would be an option. The price difference up here is pretty annoying sometimes with a lot of things we have to pay more for.

A great example is two years ago, my Dad wanted a Toyota Sequoia so he got shopping around for one. He noticed that on the internet the price in the US was about 25k cheaper than Canada. So he had someone buy it for him in Spokane and bring it up here. Inspect it etc. Still saved 20000 dollars. Only problem with this option is you can't get financing, you have to pay cash. I'm not waiting to save 25 thousand to buy a Yaris from the States.

[b_hickman11]

I got a call from my local Toyota dealer today and my long awaited 5 door RS arrival has been pushed back another month. Bought the car in October, looks like I have to wait until March to get it.

I've got $7000 worth of upgrade parts for this car sitting at the dealership waiting to be installed, when the car finnally arrives from Japan.

Pretty much all of the advertised colors are not available on the RS models. My first three color choices were not available, so I went with red. I don't think any of the premium paint colors are available in Canada.

I've looked all over for a 2010 Rs, I found a couple used 09's, but no 10's. So did Toyota short supply these cars to Canada/USA? There is quite a lot of advertising for this model, but whats the point if you have to wait 6+ months to get the car? May as well call the car limited or special order?

I haven't seen any 2010's RS on any lots or even in display rooms. I hope I haven't committed to buying a car that doesn't even exist.

Does Toyota do this with all of their models/makes? Does my situation sound normal for Toyota?




You said you already "bought" it...Does not mean you already paid for the car or does that mean you paid $500 deposit to send your order to the distributor?

[YarisBC]

You said you already "bought" it...Does not mean you already paid for the car or does that mean you paid $500 deposit to send your order to the distributor?

Deposit and order sent. But I consider it bought since most of the parts have already come in, and that dealership has been pretty cool with me and my other car (No one else will touch it) in the past. It's not the dealerships fault.

Point of this thread is I was wondering if these kind of waits are normal for Toyota. And why would Toyota spend all the money advertising a car that they don't even manufacture for customer view?

[upgradedyaris]

The RS is fully loaded. Funny thing about the LE upgrade packages. By the time you pick a couple of them, it costs more or as much as the RS with less in it. I originally didn't want to power windows but it would of cost me more money to not have that option.


I have an LE. It has everything, fully loaded. Power everything and cruise and fogs too. No body kit, which I hated and no rims which are too heavy. Gas mileage went to shit with the RS wheels on my car. (9 pounds heavier each wheel) I lowered mine and tinted my glass, good to go! I just don't have the dark interior, which I don't mind because my Supra has shadow Grey in it, so nice change.

Mine was a little less than the RS and it wasn't that different than the two.

Oh, mine also has adjustable intermittent wipers, yours doesn't, that is a fact. :D

[thebarber]

@ the OP: to answer your original question the waits are pretty standard for a yaris if you need/want something specific (including an RS)

[Mavix]

Dude, whether or not the dealership is telling you that they're giving you a deal or not, you're getting screwed on those parts. I got an '09 RS last year, fully loaded off the lot for a hair over 18k, and I haggled a 72month/120,000km EPC plan and undercoating out of them for nothing. Only difference from yours to mine is that I have the 3door.

Now I've put a rear sway bar, TRD lowering springs, limited slip differential, both short shift kits from NST, NST lightened pulleys, PRM intake, Borla exhaust and a new set of wheels/rubber on there and I'm maybe just over the 3 grand mark in terms of parts for the car. Most of what I've bought has been stuff thats damn near new or brand new from people on these boards, there's a super high turnover on parts here dude, just be patient and you'll find everything you want. Save yourself some coin and buy it yourself, screw the dealer. Because at 31k, I'm sorry, they're gouging you on something, I'm having a hard time seeing where this roughly 6 to 8 grand is going. I just dont get it.

I don't post on here very often but 31k is outrageous for what you're getting. By all means, buy the RS with as many options as you want, but buy all the extra parts yourself. Sweet jesus...I mean, maybe I got a deal because the economy was in the shits last year but man, thats just crazy.

**(edit)** And yes, to go along with thebarber, I had to wait a few months for my RS as well. 3 I think it was, and that was the minimum they said it would take.

[b_hickman11]

Deposit and order sent. But I consider it bought since most of the parts have already come in, and that dealership has been pretty cool with me and my other car (No one else will touch it) in the past. It's not the dealerships fault.

Point of this thread is I was wondering if these kind of waits are normal for Toyota. And why would Toyota spend all the money advertising a car that they don't even manufacture for customer view?

I don't think I would spend 7000 on a car that I haven't even seen yet. This kind of wait is normal for Toyota. Remember they are not actually building the car for you nor did they send your order over seas. Your dealer sends a message to your local to distributor telling them IF they get a Yaris matching the one you order and IF someone else wasn't already in line ahead of you, then they will pull it aside and send it to your dealer. It's a bunch of IF's that could mean a few months or up to a year.

[Ryu]

$7000k accessory from Toyota Dealership seems outrageous, maybe you can ask dealer to give you the list of mod it included in that " $7000" accessory and the price for each item they charge you then you can show the list to us.

Maybe this way we can tell you whether you got ripped by dealer or a good deal.

[b_hickman11]

...otherwise I was looking at 3-4 months minimum because it would have to be built and shipped...

Cheers

This makes people believe that they can actually order a Toyota and then have it built just for them when in fact you can not order one.

[YarisBC]

The total for the car alone is 22,717 89. There is a build a car option on toyota.ca. I tried a couple combination on the regular 5 door LE to see if its any cheaper, but as soon as I get the one upgrade package with the AC. I only save a thousand bucks and lose out on all the options. There is no such thing as a 15 grand 5dr Yaris.

The Toyota options that I want is
Center Arm Rest 108.30
Bodyside Mouding 173.20
All season Mats 91.10
Rear Rally Spoiler. 335 + 59.40 install


The non Toyota wheels

OZ 17" Super Turismo WRC rims 1064+ 99 mount and balance
Nokian WR tires are 1633

The TRD PArts

TRD Quick Shift, 315 + 150 install
TRD Carbon Fibre Knob 120
TRD Rear Sway Bar 235+ 29.70 install
TRD shock absorbers 980+ 218 install
TRD lowering kit 300 + 257 install
TRD air filter 90
TRD muffler 668 + 69.30 install

28,079 06 total with the perf. parts There is also the 3m paint protection kit, the clear coat, and under spray in this price. the extra warrenty on the rims etc as well.

Stuff that I've purchased

TANABE FRONT STRUT BAR 156.36 dealer install no charge
Alpine overhead 10 inch screen and dvd. 799 + tax

Two other parts that I'm considering. First if the Blitz supercharger. how much are these going for?

Other thing is replacement speakers for the RS deck. Anyone recommend anything that fit in the stock speaker slots?

[thebarber]

TRD Quick Shift, 315 + 150 install
TRD Carbon Fibre Knob 120
TRD Rear Sway Bar 235+ 29.70 install
TRD shock absorbers 980+ 218 install
TRD lowering kit 300 + 257 install
TRD air filter 90
TRD muffler 668 + 69.30 install


oh my god! those prices are crazy! you seriously should have taken the time to shop around.....they're charging you 218 for the install of the shocks and 257 for the springs.....they go together! its one job!

muffler 668? you could get the most expensive aftermarket muffler for 350us shipped!

wow man, thats a lot of dough for those parts w/ install.....your @$$ hurt from toyota givin' it to you?!

[b_hickman11]

The total for the car alone is 22,717 89. There is a build a car option on toyota.ca. I tried a couple combination on the regular 5 door LE to see if its any cheaper, but as soon as I get the one upgrade package with the AC. I only save a thousand bucks and lose out on all the options. There is no such thing as a 15 grand 5dr Yaris.

The Toyota options that I want is
Center Arm Rest 108.30
Bodyside Mouding 173.20
All season Mats 91.10
Rear Rally Spoiler. 335 + 59.40 install


The non Toyota wheels

OZ 17" Super Turismo WRC rims 1064+ 99 mount and balance
Nokian WR tires are 1633

The TRD PArts

TRD Quick Shift, 315 + 150 install
TRD Carbon Fibre Knob 120
TRD Rear Sway Bar 235+ 29.70 install
TRD shock absorbers 980+ 218 install
TRD lowering kit 300 + 257 install
TRD air filter 90
TRD muffler 668 + 69.30 install

28,079 06 total with the perf. parts There is also the 3m paint protection kit, the clear coat, and under spray in this price. the extra warrenty on the rims etc as well.

Stuff that I've purchased

TANABE FRONT STRUT BAR 156.36 dealer install no charge
Alpine overhead 10 inch screen and dvd. 799 + tax

Two other parts that I'm considering. First if the Blitz supercharger. how much are these going for?

Other thing is replacement speakers for the RS deck. Anyone recommend anything that fit in the stock speaker slots?

You getting your Yaris ready to run the Daytona on Feb 14?

[thebarber]

man, they must have seen you coming! lol

[upgradedyaris]

The total for the car alone is 22,717 89. There is a build a car option on toyota.ca. I tried a couple combination on the regular 5 door LE to see if its any cheaper, but as soon as I get the one upgrade package with the AC.

I have an LE and it has everything the same as the RS minus wheels and a few minor cosmetics. (which I personally dislike) As stated, I have variable wiper control (RS doesn't have) and cruise too. :)

Duane

[ozmdd]

I've gotta see the window sticker on this thing. I'm having a hard time believing it exists. If it does, I'd love to race against it in my $12k Yaris. I'll own you, since you've added about 500lbs to it!! BTW- $1600 tires?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[YarisBC]

oh my god! those prices are crazy! you seriously should have taken the time to shop around.....they're charging you 218 for the install of the shocks and 257 for the springs.....they go together! its one job!

muffler 668? you could get the most expensive aftermarket muffler for 350us shipped!

wow man, thats a lot of dough for those parts w/ install.....your @$$ hurt from toyota givin' it to you?!

Post a link for a cheaper price on any of the parts and I'll take it with me to the dealer. I could find the TRD Yaris Exhaust system for around 350 U.S for the Sedan, but not the 5dr RS.

I noticed the double charge on the suspension, I'll get them to fix that install price.

The car isn't here yet and nothing has been installed. If there are lower TRD part prices I can simply buy from that source and ship the dealer stuff back.

I'm not interested in non TRD parts. Trying to convince a TRD fan to go with something else is like trying to convince your fiance the fake engagement ring you got her is just is good. It may look the same and server the same function, but it's not the same thing.

[YarisBC]

man, they must have seen you coming! lol

They know I'll drop money on a car, they have seen and worked on my other one.

[YarisBC]

I've gotta see the window sticker on this thing. I'm having a hard time believing it exists. If it does, I'd love to race against it in my $12k Yaris. I'll own you, since you've added about 500lbs to it!! BTW- $1600 tires?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I can't get a 12k Yaris in Canada. If there is one for 12k let me know where it is, and I'll cancel this deal and pay cash for the 12k one, I won't need to finance.

I figure I've added about 50 pounds with those Rims and Tires, not 500.

I need all weather tires, or very good all season for the summer because of the area that I live in. Can you make a better constructive suggestion that you know of, and that you have tested a better less expensive tire in an extreme icy region of north america?

http://www.ourfernie.com/files/59/13484_small.jpg

[YarisBC]

I have an LE and it has everything the same as the RS minus wheels and a few minor cosmetics. (which I personally dislike) As stated, I have variable wiper control (RS doesn't have) and cruise too. :)

Duane

2010 Yaris Hatchback 5 Door LE with Convenience Package
17135.00

2010 Yaris Hatchback 5-Door RS
19555.00

Savings of 2420

For $2420 you get

RS body kit.( I really like the RS body kit but I think a regular Yaris looks just as good lowered with nice rims.)

http://mediap04.toyota.ca/media/build/yarishb/col/big/b09yarishb5drrs8t0.jpg

The way better looking darker interior with the sport seats. I really don't like the material on the regular yaris seats, looks like an old womans panty hose.

6 disk CD changer with ipod jack. I don't care much about the 6 cd thing, but the ipod jack is important to me.

Leather wrapped steering wheel

RS grille badge lol

Power/Remote heated mirrors.

15 inch aluminum ally wheels

Vehicle Stability Control. This is a pretty big deal for winter driving. But now that I think about it, I don't think TC will go well with a supercharger if I decide on getting one? Anyone running a charged Yaris with TC?

I don't think thats really to bad for 2500 dollars. A decent set of seats, rails and sliders will put you back $1200 to $2500 alone.

[YarisBC]

The added "protection packages" are crazy expensive too, and are basically the "super size me" items where the dealers make the most profit...

Cheers

The added protection package is only 545.95. I get that clear coat protection paint, the 3m ant chip film, electronic anti rust box, rim damage coverage and the black undercoating spray.

The price is high because of the Canadian dollar and the car base price, Canadian Taxes and levy and brand name performance parts which I should be able to get down if you can show me some lower prices on TRD parts.

Some more info on my costs...

MSRP 19,555.00
Freight 1280
Block Heater 212
Battery Levy 5
Tire Levy 25
FETax for my AC 100
GSTax 1058
SSTax 1482

22,717.89

Pretty big cost in Freight and Taxes :( Over $4000 that I can't do anything at all about, and neither can they.

I got a $1000 rebate for the goverment clean car refund. SST Reduction.
And another $1000 back because of Toyota's cash back program on the Yaris.

I don't have a break down on the prices that came from the states. I buy a lot of stuff online from Ebay and other Us stores. I usually pay 30% duty on goods shipped in from the US. But, sometimes I get lucky and don't have to pay anything. So it's always good to assume that anything I buy from the US, add an additional 30% cost because NAFTA isn't free if your Canadian lol.


Oh I didn't mention. I went to this dealership with a list of parts that I wanted and they then shopped for prices. I went in with a price list on parts and they then looked for US dealer, and brought the parts in for me. All of the prices were comparable to what I went in with. I did research and price out the parts before I went into the dealership lol. This dealership does not offer these parts normally, its at my request. So if anyone knows of a way cheaper place to get TRD stuff other than TRD USA, PLEASE let me know, I still have time to make changes.

I really appreciate the help.

[kelevra]

I've gotta see the window sticker on this thing. I'm having a hard time believing it exists. If it does, I'd love to race against it in my $12k Yaris. I'll own you, since you've added about 500lbs to it!! BTW- $1600 tires?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

:rolleyes:

[Ryu]

Just a thought, do you change out the OZ 17" Super Turismo WRC rims from dealership?
If yes, make sure you get your stock RS wheel back and don't let them take it, at least you can sell it to cover a bit of your cost.

Pricewise, I think if you are willing to go for different muffler of any kind it will save around $200-300 there but not TRD muffler though. Same as non-TRD shock can save you around $600 something.

Another suggestion to save labour cost is to buy those shock and spring, bring them to some mechanic to install for you for $50 per hour labour, this move will also save you some money.

I know you like TRD stuff, those stuff usually cost a bit more than aftermarket. If that is what you like just stick with your plan.

The cost of tire seems a bit a on the high side, is there any other nice comparable tire with lower cost?

All those are what I can think of to save you some cost.

[alan1828]

Yo wait.... I have a 2009 Yaris RS too... But I did want to get a preowned and bump it up like my friend's Yaris 2006 Red with a Blitz inside "Terume" I went to Maple dealership for my 16000 oil change and I saw someone pickup their pearl RS 2010. I went up to the Gal... hehehe and asked if I could take a look inside and...... There is no difference but when I asked if I could see her papers... its $3000 more than what I paid for???? WTF??? Everything stock is the same as mine except she got the all the deflectors and hood and windows had it tinted thats all... I got mine in March 1st 2009 and it costs much less oh BTW its automatic if anyone wants to know. Mine now was a touchscreen dash w/ GPS , this week my LED scanner light should be in and installed, I just lost my job so the appointment for lowering my car is suspended. See you all on Jan 31st East end Yaris Meet !

[Doc Zaius]

^^^ coherent much? :confused:


@YarisBC: you can quote/reply multiple messages by using the little "+ toggle button next to the quote button. :thumbsup:

[b_hickman11]

Would it be illegal to come to the US, buy a new Yaris, then drive back across the border?

[YarisBC]

^^^ coherent much? :confused:


@YarisBC: you can quote/reply multiple messages by using the little "+ toggle button next to the quote button. :thumbsup:

Yes, and thanks for the tip, I didn't know about the multi- quote button. lol

Would it be illegal to come to the US, buy a new Yaris, then drive back across the border?

Its legal but I wouldn't save much if anything. I would have to lose on the exchange rate, the duty and still pay the taxes. Only time its really worth while on a new car, is if you find someone desperate. Or if the Can. dollar is worth more then US. dollar, which isn't often.

Just a thought, do you change out the OZ 17" Super Turismo WRC rims from dealership?
If yes, make sure you get your stock RS wheel back and don't let them take it, at least you can sell it to cover a bit of your cost.

Pricewise, I think if you are willing to go for different muffler of any kind it will save around $200-300 there but not TRD muffler though. Same as non-TRD shock can save you around $600 something.

Another suggestion to save labour cost is to buy those shock and spring, bring them to some mechanic to install for you for $50 per hour labour, this move will also save you some money.

I know you like TRD stuff, those stuff usually cost a bit more than aftermarket. If that is what you like just stick with your plan.

The cost of tire seems a bit a on the high side, is there any other nice comparable tire with lower cost?

All those are what I can think of to save you some cost.

I get all the parts that are swapped out, not sure how much I'll be able to sell stock parts for though.

I asked today about the double install charge on the suspension install, I'll let you know when they get back to me, one of the charges should be wiped off.

As for the rubber, I went to KalTire today and got a price about 700 dollars cheaper than what the dealership gave me. They also made a suggestion for different tires, they said I would be way happier with Nitto Neo Gens instead. I guess they are an ultra high performace all season tire designed for lowered cars. They are also less money. http://www.nittotire.com/#index.tire.neogen

I already have winter radials for the stock RS rims.

[thebarber]

Post a link for a cheaper price on any of the parts and I'll take it with me to the dealer. I could find the TRD Yaris Exhaust system for around 350 U.S for the Sedan, but not the 5dr RS.

I noticed the double charge on the suspension, I'll get them to fix that install price.

The car isn't here yet and nothing has been installed. If there are lower TRD part prices I can simply buy from that source and ship the dealer stuff back.

I'm not interested in non TRD parts. Trying to convince a TRD fan to go with something else is like trying to convince your fiance the fake engagement ring you got her is just is good. It may look the same and server the same function, but it's not the same thing.

man, i totally wrote out a long-ish response with links to cheaper parts... got lost in limbo

trd parts are always made by other manufacturers. check those "trd" springs they put on your car....i guarantee you they say eibach on them. how do i know? i picked up some toyota canada lower springs.....better known as eibach prokits.

there are better, cheaper options than being a TRD whore. but if you want to over pay so you can tell people you have TRD stuff, i won't stop you. just seems to me youre overpaying for the same parts you could buy elsewhere for about 30% less.

don't get too bitter at the community here by they're/our repsonses, we're just trying to help you out.

good luck w/ the purchase

[thebarber]

oh, and the stock parts are worth just about nothing...(if you're thinkin of selling them)

you're better off holding onto them and going back to stock if you ever sell your yaris

[b_hickman11]

Yes, and thanks for the tip, I didn't know about the multi- quote button. lol



Its legal but I wouldn't save much if anything. I would have to lose on the exchange rate, the duty and still pay the taxes. Only time its really worth while on a new car, is if you find someone desperate. Or if the Can. dollar is worth more then US. dollar, which isn't often.



I get all the parts that are swapped out, not sure how much I'll be able to sell stock parts for though.

I asked today about the double install charge on the suspension install, I'll let you know when they get back to me, one of the charges should be wiped off.

As for the rubber, I went to KalTire today and got a price about 700 dollars cheaper than what the dealership gave me. They also made a suggestion for different tires, they said I would be way happier with Nitto Neo Gens instead. I guess they are an ultra high performace all season tire designed for lowered cars. They are also less money. http://www.nittotire.com/#index.tire.neogen

I already have winter radials for the stock RS rims.

So how much money in USD is your Yaris going to cost you in Canada?
Translate it for us because you have lead most people on this thread to believe that you are buying a Yaris for $30,000 in USD.

[Doc Zaius]

It's close... exchange rate right now is hovering around 94¢. So $30k CDN ~= $28.2k USD.

[YarisBC]

man, i totally wrote out a long-ish response with links to cheaper parts... got lost in limbo

trd parts are always made by other manufacturers. check those "trd" springs they put on your car....i guarantee you they say eibach on them. how do i know? i picked up some toyota canada lower springs.....better known as eibach prokits.

there are better, cheaper options than being a TRD whore. but if you want to over pay so you can tell people you have TRD stuff, i won't stop you. just seems to me youre overpaying for the same parts you could buy elsewhere for about 30% less.

don't get too bitter at the community here by they're/our repsonses, we're just trying to help you out.

good luck w/ the purchase

I'm not bitter what so ever with the community and appreciate the help. I'm just trying to explain why someone would be so stupid as to spend the extra cash. I think you got the wrong feeling from my post, I don't get bitter, or grief anyone, which is probably why I'm not getting a very good deal on this car lol.

I have had good experiences with TRD. I have TRD stuff that is 20 years old, and its as good as when it was bought. MY SARD stuff, HKS abd Blitz has caused me some problems. TRD seems to carry their product lines longer compared to everyone else. Some examples of problems I've had with other brands just this year is.

My car was tuned to use the SARD onboard, which is in Japanese. I cant find a proper wiring manual anywhere for it. The part hasn't been made since the 90's and has caused me some grief. I got screwing with it and turned my cut off back on somehow, and now my car will only get to 220 then the fuel cut kicks in.

I have a HKS power exhaust system, and I damaged the silencer. I couldn't find a replacement part for it anywhere. So now I have an ugly stupid weld across it to keep it from flapping.

There is a crack on my -SBC static boost/controller box. Blitz stopped making this forever ago, and I cant find a replacement for it anywhere. I'll have to replace the entire thing this summer.

I've got a high end adjustable suspension and the front shocks are spent. I haven't been able to find a non ridicules replacement for them yet.

I've got the CT26 with the ceramic parts in it made for the RC models. Toyota doesn't make a proper seal kit for it, but TRD still does. Which is great because my seals are spent.

So in my experience performance parts are good and fun until they break, or time has gone by. If your planning on keeping your car for a decade or more, expect to completely replace worn out parts that are made by smaller companies. But like I said that's just my experience, everyone makes lemons.

[thebarber]

the new TRD isn't like the old TRD, unfortunately. The TRD front sway bar on my matrix XRS (made by hotchkis) was nice enough to prematurely wear out my steering rack around the 75000km mark...

though the toyota canada lowering springs (aka eibach prokits) on my yaris for the winter are as nice as the prokits i had on my xrs too...

[b_hickman11]

It's close... exchange rate right now is hovering around 94¢. So $30k CDN ~= $28.2k USD.

I'm not a Math major but buying the Yaris in the US and driving it back to Canada would save you at least $4000 on the car alone and probably $2000 on the parts and labor. But you stated that is a lot of money to you so I guess if you really lie throwing away $6000+ then go ahead. At least we know Toyota will stay in business!

[Doc Zaius]

I'm not a Math major but buying the Yaris in the US and driving it back to Canada would save you at least $4000 on the car alone and probably $2000 on the parts and labor. But you stated that is a lot of money to you so I guess if you really lie throwing away $6000+ then go ahead. At least we know Toyota will stay in business!

I've heard of people doing this. Happens more the closer our dollar gets to parity. But I'm sure there are other issues (import duties, warranty claims, hassle, etc.) to take into account.

Meh... I sprung for the fully loaded 5-door RS back in 2005 before it even came out... $23k (CDN!) was my final sticker price. And I only had lowering springs! But I didn't buy it b/c it was cheap... I bought it because it was small and awesome! :biggrin:

[upgradedyaris]

2010 Yaris Hatchback 5 Door LE with Convenience Package
17135.00

2010 Yaris Hatchback 5-Door RS
19555.00

Savings of 2420

For $2420 you get

RS body kit.( I really like the RS body kit but I think a regular Yaris looks just as good lowered with nice rims.)

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The way better looking darker interior with the sport seats. I really don't like the material on the regular yaris seats, looks like an old womans panty hose.

6 disk CD changer with ipod jack. I don't care much about the 6 cd thing, but the ipod jack is important to me.

Leather wrapped steering wheel

RS grille badge lol

Power/Remote heated mirrors.

15 inch aluminum ally wheels

Vehicle Stability Control. This is a pretty big deal for winter driving. But now that I think about it, I don't think TC will go well with a supercharger if I decide on getting one? Anyone running a charged Yaris with TC?

I don't think thats really to bad for 2500 dollars. A decent set of seats, rails and sliders will put you back $1200 to $2500 alone.

I have the power mirrors, stability control and fogs as well AND I-pod hook up too. ;) I lowered mine and added tinted windows and the window visors. I paid more than 17 for mine. It was 21 out the door and it's all paid in full. :) I added an extended warranty for the extra 1500 because I drive it a lot. It has over 80,000 in 2 years now. (all highway)

I also added (as mentioned) some goodies that doesn't come from factory. Mine is now the DS model. My name :D

No matter, if you're happy with your purchase, that's all that matters.

[YarisBC]

An update on the car this week. BTW thanks yarisworld members for the help so far.

About the tires, rims and install price quote I got from them. They wanted 1633 for the tires, and 1064 for the rims, plus 100 for install. I went down to Kaltire and got pricing from them, the tires are 694, the rims are 1542, and the install is 94 but includes free rotations with their warranty.

I asked the dealer about the tire price difference and he called back and told me that they confused the rim price with the tire price. I wonder what would of happened if this wasn't caught. Surely I would of been charged full price for the rims, but the tire price difference may of been missed in the final deal.

Thing is, that the tires I want are only available from KAltire, which means that dealership was using them anyways and jacking the cost on me. So I told them that I'm just going to go to Kaltire myself.
The dealer didn't sound pleased and told me there was going to be restocking fees, I didn't respond to that comment. Instead I went to Kaltire and spoke with the manager about restocking fees, and he told me that there won't be any, and to call him back if they try to charge me. IF they try to charge me restocking fees, then they basically have made them up and are trying to steal money from me.

Another install fee they are charging me is for the suspension springs. I'm already paying to have shocks installed, why would I have to pay for the coils when they slide over the shocks as they are installed. The dealer tried to explain to me why but he doesn't have a clue, so I'll need to talk to their shop boss to see why. I'll keep you guys posted.

It's going to be nice to finnally have this car and to be done with this dealership.

Oh, I checked into the savings if I buy a new Yaris from the US and bring it up, and after fees and duty there is only a few hundred dollars in savings.

[thebarber]

your dealer sounds shady.

for the spring/shock thing, there is NO way to put in the new shocks/strurs without having to replace the springs. NONE. the front is a macpherson setup, so they'd have to come apart to replace the struts. in the rear, the spring and shock are separate, yes, but if you have it on a lift (which they will) once you undo the bottom bolt of the shock, the torsion bar will open all the way and the oem spring will literally fall out. i had mine on jackstands and it did that when i put my coilovers on.

id be seriously weary of ANYTHING this dealer does for you...they really seem likely they're over charging you any which way they can.....whether or not you've been going there for 15 years....

buyer beware

[YarisBC]

An update...

The guaranteed, official, for sure no excuses date is Feb 20. They called me last week and said it would be ready for pickup today.

This morning I was suppose to pick up this car, but the dealership called me with another delay.

They ordered the wrong exhaust, even though I mentioned to them about making sure to get the hatch and not the sedan exhaust. So I told them don't worry about it, I'll do it myself. I told them I'll come get the car.

They called me back 20 minutes later and the TRD Rally Spoiler wont fit......

The car came with a RS spoiler, and the holes on the top of the hatch are a couple inches further out.

They wanted to know if I want the car with the holes exposed...... Like who the hell would want a "new" car with holes drilled in it?

I called the manager and spoke with him, he is trying to convince me to take the car with the RS spoiler on it. Told me it will cost 1100 dollars to put the Rally one on. They sent me pictures of the spoilers side by side.

Now, there isn't that much of a difference between the RS and the Rally spoiler, but I'm just sick and tired of this deal, and I don't want to make any more comprises. To someone like me that has spent the extra cash, and a lot of it, to get what I want, not having that spoiler is a big deal.

Now something that has really pissed me off. When I was talking to their manager, the shop called and left a message on my phone, saying there won't be any problems and I can come get the car Friday.

This leaves me wondering if they were going to put the RS spoiler back on, and hope I didn't notice, and charge me the $410 for the rally spoiler that I wouldn't be getting.

I already told them I don't want the car without the rally spoiler this morning, and that he needs to get me a new hatch for the car. So did they seriously think that in a day that they could fill the holes on that hatch, repaint it and install the proper spoiler? And why would I want a new car with holes drilled in it?

It's not the dealerships fault that the car took months to come, car was officially ordered 3rd week of November. And, its not their fault the RS holes won't fit the official Toyota accessory Rally Spoiler. And yah they made some mistakes with the pricing and up-charging of parts that would of cost me hundreds of dollars.

But what's really bothering me is I think they knew all along how much time was required to get the car. And the fact they were going to put that RS spoiler back on and hope I didn't notice.That's just completely dishonest.

I'm waiting for the manager to call me back, and we will see how this ends, but I want a new hatch with the rally spoiler on it, ready by Feb 20th as promised. Or a huge price reduction. I hate causing people grief but enough is enough, if I wanted a compromised car then I would of bought used or straight off the lot.

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[thebarber]

you'd better get both spoiler in-hand when you pick up that car

sorry to hear things are going sideways...

[b_hickman11]

How was the dealer suppose to know when your car was going to come in? They didn't send your order over seas and they didn't tell Toyota to build it to your specs. Once again, you were very picky in your order which is why it took so long to come in and then you basically are replacing every part on the car with a TRD part(which by the way is designed to be added to a car that doesn't already have that specific part not replace the OEM). If I was your dealer I would tell you that you could take the Yaris as is or you can take your business elsewhere.

[YarisBC]

How was the dealer suppose to know when your car was going to come in? They didn't send your order over seas and they didn't tell Toyota to build it to your specs. Once again, you were very picky in your order which is why it took so long to come in and then you basically are replacing every part on the car with a TRD part(which by the way is designed to be added to a car that doesn't already have that specific part not replace the OEM). If I was your dealer I would tell you that you could take the Yaris as is or you can take your business elsewhere.

They told me a certain date, and pushed it back 4 times, Toyota's fault not the dealer. Thing is that other dealerships I called had a better idea of when the car was coming in, they said end of Feb. I don't know if they gave me a bogus date or if it was an honest mistake.

I wasn't that picky, I compromised on the color for starters, and the pickup times multiple times, I've been very patient. I payed full price for everything, didn't ask for any deals or toss ins, didn't barter, haven't been rude in any way.

As for the parts, I offered to buy them myself and bring them in, but instead they offered to do it, and of course make some money from it. That's a risk that they took on, and need to make sure it's done right.

They told me that they are ordering the car for me from JAPAN and that's why the wait took so long. Sales Rep told me that, the rep locating the car told me that, and the sales manager also told me that today. Once again how accurate is this, I don't know.

There was mistakes in the pricing etc, were they honest mistakes, yah probably, but I probably would have been charged for them honest or not. I'm glad I checked into them or who knows....

So I'm willing to accept there was some honest mistakes by the dealership, mainly small ones, which are expected on a custom car. But, Toyota has failed big time with the shipping dates and the spoiler etc. So I've asked for some compensation, why should I, or even the dealer, have to pay for the mistakes toyota made?

I payed top dollar to get what I asked for, it didn't happen, so in my opinion Toyota should compensate me, and the dealer for the mistakes. People that don't barter price and have extended waiting time for something, should get the gold service treatment, not pushed around.

[b_hickman11]

They told me a certain date, and pushed it back 4 times, Toyota's fault not the dealer. Thing is that other dealerships I called had a better idea of when the car was coming in, they said end of Feb. I don't know if they gave me a bogus date or if it was an honest mistake.

I wasn't that picky, I compromised on the color for starters, and the pickup times multiple times, I've been very patient. I payed full price for everything, didn't ask for any deals or toss ins, didn't barter, haven't been rude in any way.

As for the parts, I offered to buy them myself and bring them in, but instead they offered to do it, and of course make some money from it. That's a risk that they took on, and need to make sure it's done right.

They told me that they are ordering the car for me from JAPAN and that's why the wait took so long. Sales Rep told me that, the rep locating the car told me that, and the sales manager also told me that today. Once again how accurate is this, I don't know.

There was mistakes in the pricing etc, were they honest mistakes, yah probably, but I probably would have been charged for them honest or not. I'm glad I checked into them or who knows....

So I'm willing to accept there was some honest mistakes by the dealership, mainly small ones, which are expected on a custom car. But, Toyota has failed big time with the shipping dates and the spoiler etc. So I've asked for some compensation, why should I, or even the dealer, have to pay for the mistakes toyota made?

I payed top dollar to get what I asked for, it didn't happen, so in my opinion Toyota should compensate me, and the dealer for the mistakes. People that don't barter price and have extended waiting time for something, should get the gold service treatment, not pushed around.

First of all you wanted an RS which is very picky. You automatically narrowed done your Yaris choice from 100% all the way down to less than 5%. The dealer was wrong to tell you a specific date when it will come in unless they provide you with the VIN. If they would have said it is going to be in on this date and they gave you the VIN, you can call Toyota and have it tracked. No dealer can tell you when the car will be in until the regional dist calls them and tells the dealer that there was a match in the computer.

Second you order the parts from someone else and not from the dealer. Just because they are TRD parts doesn't mean they are going to fit like OEM parts and it also doesn't mean the dealer knows exactly how the install process will go. The only way they would have known how your little wing was going to fit is if they had installed one before(which they probably haven't) TRD parts are basically aftermarket parts that are "sponsored" by Toyota.

When you order a car from Toyota the order does not go to Japan. It is simply put into a compter. When Japan builds a car they put the specs into a computer also. If the car they put in matches your order that your dealer put in, it will send a message to Japan to direct that shipment to your private dist and then to your local dealer. There is no such thing as a special order with Toyota.

[thebarber]

you THINK that toyota would know how they're parts fit on all cars no matter where they've been ordered from, but the sad truth is most people don't modify their toyotas especially one that already comes with a wing on it...

hickman, give him a break...no need to stress over minutia just to prove you're right. bottom line is, he waiting a LONG time for his RS

[YarisBC]

you THINK that toyota would know how they're parts fit on all cars no matter where they've been ordered from, but the sad truth is most people don't modify their toyotas especially one that already comes with a wing on it...

hickman, give him a break...no need to stress over minutia just to prove you're right. bottom line is, he waiting a LONG time for his RS

Yah the spoiler was a Toyota part, not a custom part like the TRD stuff I asked for, it's a check-able upgrade with the build a car option on Toyota.com and Toyota.ca. You'll see you have a choice of no spoiler, regular one or Rally. Mistakes happen, I don't blame the dealer, I blame Toyota. I'll get that spoiler for free now, so I save 400 dollars because of that mistake and I'm happy with that.

Also, I don't know if Toyota should advertise a car, that they expect sales to be so low that it's not worth having them on lots. I really don't understand that concept at all. Waste of advertising, money and consumers time.

Positive side to all of this is that I'll pick the car up on Wednesday, drive it home, put the new rims and tires on it, and maybe take my kids on a road trip.

I'll get some pics and put them up if the weather is nice.

[yaris2010RS]

barber, wtf, y wasn't i invited to this party!! lol, dnw man, u will get ure RS soon enough. i waited 3 months for mine and it finally came and i love it. the RS is hard to get and from what i understand its build for the person whom ordered it and is shipped from japan. the spoiler issue seems likes a copout. if you ordered it with the bigger spoiler then make sure its on there when u get the car. and on there properly too.

Just my 2 cents

[eric81]

The spoiler is something that the PARTS department screwed up on so they should pay to fix that. They can order a new rear hatch if it is that badly screwed up. As for when the vehicle is supposed to have come in, I have had that happen to me as a salesman and my customer was ticked. Nothing to control there. The computer says a certian date for assembly, freight, and when it should hit the ground.

[b_hickman11]

The spoiler is something that the PARTS department screwed up on so they should pay to fix that. They can order a new rear hatch if it is that badly screwed up. As for when the vehicle is supposed to have come in, I have had that happen to me as a salesman and my customer was ticked. Nothing to control there. The computer says a certian date for assembly, freight, and when it should hit the ground.

It's not the parts dept fault because he didn't order it from the same dealership.

[YarisBC]

It's not the parts dept fault because he didn't order it from the same dealership.


The parts department ordered all of the parts, including the TRD stuff.

The spoiler is a check-able option on the Toyota, it wasn't a special TRD part out sourced. It's called the Rally Spoiler on the official Toyota site, but is referred to as the TRD rally spoiler.

The parts comes from a Toyota parts warehouse, not TRD USA, its an option like power window package, all season mats, or the shifter knob.

Go to toyota.ca or toyota.com

Click on the Yaris, click build it. Look at all the options you get to pick from, sport spoiler, and Rally spoiler are on there.

I'm just glad when this is going to be over. I'll never use a dealer to get a car again, It's way easier and cheaper to import an older used car from Japan.

[yaris2010RS]

Really man, read my first thread.... Its called Toyota pissing me off, really this is bs apparently all toyota dealerships put ppl through.

[b_hickman11]

The parts department ordered all of the parts, including the TRD stuff.

The spoiler is a check-able option on the Toyota, it wasn't a special TRD part out sourced. It's called the Rally Spoiler on the official Toyota site, but is referred to as the TRD rally spoiler.

The parts comes from a Toyota parts warehouse, not TRD USA, its an option like power window package, all season mats, or the shifter knob.

Go to toyota.ca or toyota.com

Click on the Yaris, click build it. Look at all the options you get to pick from, sport spoiler, and Rally spoiler are on there.

I'm just glad when this is going to be over. I'll never use a dealer to get a car again, It's way easier and cheaper to import an older used car from Japan.

Oh my bad. I thought on a pervious post you said you bought all the aftermarket parts somewhere else and had them shipped to the dealer. Why wouldn't a "Rally" Sport edition Yaris not come with the "Rally" spoiler?

By the way, I went to toyota.com and did the build your own feature. There is no option to add any kind of spoiler unless you buy the sport package which comes with the standard feature. So not all regions offer a spoiler much less an upgraded spoiler. Try it for yourself. My zip is 75965.

Here is one of your quotes, "They called me back 20 minutes later and the TRD Rally Spoiler wont fit......"
This is why I thought it was a TRD part which are aftermarket parts.

Oh yea, today is the 20th.....Show us some pics of your new car!

[33OH]

FYI - If those new holes they drilled are anywhere close to the hatch weatherstripping, make sure you get a new hatch. Also look inside to make sure they didn't just repair the holes from the outside.

Sorry about your issues - my transaction was seamless but I also didn't have the dealer install or order anything, including the car.

[b_hickman11]

any pics yet?

[woof]

Does the Canadian RS have the 1.8 engine?

[thebarber]

Does the Canadian RS have the 1.8 engine?

no, 1.5L 1nzfe

[DKazzed]

muffler 668? you could get the most expensive aftermarket muffler for 350us shipped!

First time post, to his defense, the TRD exhaust is by Borla and Borla makes one of the sweetest sounding exhaust systems around. I was thinking of getting an Echo and could've for the love of me find the Borla exhaust for the Echo anymore or many other parts for that matter. Plus it's one less "warranty-voiding" item to worry about. "Oh your muffler was condensing inside and it caused water vapours to enter back into the engine with back pressure and that's why your pistons are seized". :mad: You know the dealer will come up with any excuse not to honour a warranty and aftermarket parts is the first good route to go. A TRD part installed by the dealer is warrantied.

[thebarber]

First time post, to his defense, the TRD exhaust is by Borla and Borla makes one of the sweetest sounding exhaust systems around. I was thinking of getting an Echo and could've for the love of me find the Borla exhaust for the Echo anymore or many other parts for that matter. Plus it's one less "warranty-voiding" item to worry about. "Oh your muffler was condensing inside and it caused water vapours to enter back into the engine with back pressure and that's why your pistons are seized". :mad: You know the dealer will come up with any excuse not to honour a warranty and aftermarket parts is the first good route to go. A TRD part installed by the dealer is warrantied.

if the dealer tried to tell me a non-TuRD muffler had caused my pistons to seize (or anything else, for that matter) id flatten him