CONSUMER REPORTS : March issue : 2010 YARIS sedan

[Hershey]

or hatchback still NOT RECOMMENDED . YARIS sedan was put up against the NISSAN Versa S with the 1.8 ltr. engine . Why not the 1.6 ltr. VERSA :iono: ? They take the estimated mileage of the YARIS and divide it by 2 to get the m.p.g.. Which is an overall average of 32 m.p.g. :rolleyes: . Not the real M.P.G. by driving it over a period of time . Biggest kick is that they give the YARIS a PREDICTED RELIABILITY of MUCH BETTER THAN AVERAGE while the VERSA ( 1.8ltr. ) is MUCH WORSE THAN AVERAGE . They show no :respekt: for the YARIS . C.R. is getting to be a real :laugh: .

[advocate]

I stopped reading CR when I realized that they didn't have a clue about what they're talking about.

The first major clue was the Yaris review...

[Astroman]

I think someone at CR got their ass handed to them by a stock yaris on the highway and they've held a grudge ever since. :cool:

[eric81]

I keep seeing the Maroni Sticker on the cars here, and the Yaris just pi$$e$ me off. It still says 27 and 35, averaging only 32, tops. Every single customer that brings their Yaris here gets the same questions from me... What is YOUR average MPG? What mods do you have? How many miles so far? Where do you drive to and from every day? Ever take any trips anywhere? I keep hearing between 36 and 40 average MPG, not many mods here, and people drive anywhere from 2 miles to and fro, to going to and from Denver everyday (about 60 miles at a 75 MPH zone, most going 75 to 90 MPH average). Toyota needs to find out who is getting these averages and sue them, because not EVERY SINGLE PERSON could be wrong... it's just not possible. Corolla's do about 35 MPG average too, according to customers. Prius is about 46 to 50, depending on how long they have had the car. More distance and miles, the better the MPG. Most other vehicles are right on for the stickers. But Yaris is almost 6 MPG off on average... anyone feeling lied to?

[Hershey]

nope . Both the automatic 2010 L.B. and '08 sedan with automatic average 35 m.p.g.. This is with very cold temps , 4 studded tires on each , and the winter blend of gas . The overall mileage goes up to around 38 when temps get warmer , studded tires are removed , and we get the summer gas .

[kargoboy]

Nothing written in CR would ever have the slightest impact of what I buy or drive.

[BuildCode]

The internet has replaced things like CR, as it has replaced a lot of old fashioned-y stuff :tongue: I lurked around YarisWorld before purchasing and saw not only an excellent and active community, but that this car was an excellent piece of machinery!

[Kal-El]

The Yaris is documented to be virtually the most trouble free car available and CR knows it. The reason they don't recommend it is because they feel it lacks in driving feel and interior materials quality. Thing is, it leads in every other category. But they place too much value in those two spots.

I totally disagree with their assessment.

[toad]

The Yaris is documented to be virtually the most trouble free car available and CR knows it. The reason they don't recommend it is because they feel it lacks in driving feel and interior materials quality. Thing is, it leads in every other category. But they place too much value in those two spots.

I totally disagree with their assessment.

you think would look at the sticker price and realize IT'S A $12,000 CAR!!!!!:mad: i love both my yarises, but i knew going in i wasn't going to have 'lexus' quality interiors or be exactly 'sporty' right out of the box! that's what the aftermarket is for if you want, but bottom line - this is an economy car that does everything it is supposed to do very well!:thumbup:

[RedRide]

The problem with CR is their criteria for a best buy can be very different than yours.

So, while they do offer some very useful info on products, one must still make up their own mind as to what is a best buy for them.

[eric81]

nope . Both the automatic 2010 L.B. and '08 sedan with automatic average 35 m.p.g.. This is with very cold temps , 4 studded tires on each , and the winter blend of gas . The overall mileage goes up to around 38 when temps get warmer , studded tires are removed , and we get the summer gas .

You say nope, but you just proved me right. Right?

[Sidicas]

WTH? The Versa doesn't even have Stability control or traction control AND it costs more..
Edit: Actually it can get Stability & Traction control but you need to go with the power package which bumps the price up to over $16800..

[cdavidhess]

Originally, CR did not recommend the Yaris because it lacked electronic stability control and was deficient in emergency handling (particularly the liftback). I guess they believe the addition of stability control still did not remedy the deficiency in emergency handling.

[Yaris#2]

I read an article that indicated the Yaris was ranked 26 out of the top 30 subcompacts. They rated the Fit #1. I loved my 2008 Yaris but decided to test drive a Fit. I also noticed that they rated the Yaris down for all the things I liked about it. Soft ride, faster 0-60 than the Fit. Gauge cluster in the middle.

I love my new 2010 Yaris 5dr MT! I can drive right by those Fits and then fit into parking spaces they can't!

[Hershey]

YARIS just got crapped on again by CONSUMER REPORTS 2010 ANNUAL AUTO ISSUE . Don't know their :moon:es from a hole in the ground .

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Fcuk Consumer Report.

[SilverBack]

Who gives a shit what they think? Only someone who's owned a Yaris for a year or two can give a realistic review.

[Hershey]

they take the EPA and divide it by 2 . Automatic : 29/35 . 32 when divided by 2 . Not real world mileage . What a farce :rolleyes: .

[Hershey]

at least this write up likes the 2010 YARIS . http://iguida.com/2010-toyota-yaris .

[specialeducator]

you think would look at the sticker price and realize IT'S A $12,000 CAR!!!!!:mad: i love both my yarises, but i knew going in i wasn't going to have 'lexus' quality interiors or be exactly 'sporty' right out of the box! that's what the aftermarket is for if you want, but bottom line - this is an economy car that does everything it is supposed to do very well!:thumbup:

That's the bottom line of CR complaints- that the Yaris feels like a low cost car- duh!

[Yaris#2]

Frankly, I spent less money and got more car than I expected. Since I don't live in my car, all I expect is for it to get me from point A to point B dependably and inexpensively with reasonable comfort on the way. I win!

[why?]

As someone who literally owns 20 years of cr reports auto issues, I can say they stopped being automotively relevant sometime in the late 90's. Be it politics or stupidity, their ratings are biased big time.

The bottom line is the Yaris is a great car. I've owned sports cars, and family sedans, and driven all sorts of others. The Yaris does what it does incredibly well, and it can carry 5 peoples comfortably and safely as well.

[DerFlosser]

Consumer Reports is more concerned with where their paying sponsor is coming from. Consumer Reports will be extinct in a few years and quite frankly, I am surprised that people still pay for subscription.

[Crashmaster]

While not having read the actual article, it would seem that CR isn't giving a "real world review" when it comes to the MPG, something it has always touted itself as doing. Those real world results would be CR's actual MPG during the test, something I would like to know what they averaged. Since 90% of my driving is highway miles, I can truly say that my MPG has stayed consistent at around 42. OK, the past couple of months it's been 41.983 or something like that, but who's counting.

[devinlamothe]

Even with the ABS issue I still love this car. I consistently get 40MPG, about 45MPG in the summer. If I had to do it over again I will still buy the Yaris again. 4 years and going strong!!

[carlghoul]

One of CR's biggest complaints has been the rear end sliding during sharp cornering, but I notice on Tirerack's consumer reviews of the Bridgestone Potenza RE 92's (the stock tires that come on all U.S. Yaris') everyone makes the same complaint no matter what kind of car those tires are on. Move up one size to some 195/55/15 tires and to a tire that sticks better, like a General Altimax UHP, and the problem is eliminated. CR used to favor simple, basic, practical cars like the Yaris. Whenever there was a choice of 2 engine sizes for a car, they always used to recommend the smaller engines to save fuel and money, saying the bigger engines were not neccessary. Now, they always recommend the bigger engine for more power and acceleration. They proclaim an expensive Lexus the "best car they've ever tested". Value is no longer even part of their evaluation. It may be as simple as the people in charge are much wealthier than before, so they live in a Lexus kind of world. I miss the old CR with black and white photos and an anti-conspicuous consumption attitude.

[Hershey]

yup , ain't what they used to be :frown: .

[yaris-me]

I'm happy with my Yaris, and that's all that matters.:smile:

[SailDesign]

One of CR's biggest complaints has been the rear end sliding during sharp cornering, but I notice on Tirerack's consumer reviews of the Bridgestone Potenza RE 92's (the stock tires that come on all U.S. Yaris') everyone makes the same complaint no matter what kind of car those tires are on.
<snip>.

Happily, all '09 cars, at least all that I have seen, came with Goodyear Eagle LS's. MUCH better tire (having had the '07 with the 92s, as well as the '09)

[SailDesign]

The Yaris is documented to be virtually the most trouble free car available and CR knows it. The reason they don't recommend it is because they feel it lacks in driving feel and interior materials quality. Thing is, it leads in every other category. But they place too much value in those two spots.

I totally disagree with their assessment.

If you want to experience REALLY cheap-looking and cheap-feeling interiors, try a new Ford Escape - the rental version. Makes a Yaris look and feel like a Rolls.
And this was an Escape with 7 miles on the clock, so it hadn't been beat on yet.

[talcum]

I don't mind if CU doesn't like the Yaris. I like the idea that not everyone will own a car like mine. If I wanted to drive the same car as everyone else, I'd have bought another Camry or Accord. So if CU steers em all to a Versa or Fit, fine with me.

[RedStickHam]

I get around 32-35MPG in my Yaris. However, my driving is almost all stop and go city driving, so that lowers it somewhat. In addition, here in south Louisiana, summer temperatures get well into the 90s, so running without A/C is difficult to impossible, which takes some MPG with it.

I haven't read Consumer Reports in a long time. Last year, my boss lent me the automotive issue because I was car shopping after my old car got totalled. They didn't recommend the Yaris, but I took a chance on it anyway. I liked its different styling and good mileage rating, along with the reliability reputation of Toyota.

The only complaints I really had were the center mounted speedometer took some getting used to, and there isn't much trunk space without putting the seats down, and the sound system is mediocre, but it's still a great little car for getting me to work, runnign errands, etc.

[talnlnky]

funny how there is a such a difference between different sources.. CR hates the Yaris... but Car & Driver thought it was a decent car.... C&D was the tipping force that caused me to get the Yaris (over anything else... but primarily the Smartcar).

[bkrownd]

One of CR's biggest complaints has been the rear end sliding during sharp cornering

Gosh, in my wild youth I always thought of that as a "feature". :drinking:

[Lewis]

:thumbup:One of the things overlooked in my opinion is that the Yaris is primarily designed for the European market and sold in the USA and the new Fit is designed for the USA market. So European values- fuel economy and safety are paramount on the Yaris whereas on the Fit interior space, utility and safer handling (i.e. - understeer in the US is considered safer) got designed into the Fit.

The qualities like a wee bit of oversteer, and traction control, stability control etc. (even knee airbags- are virtually universal on Eurohatches and that's where the $ went for on our Yarises.

My wife is Dutch and her family members drive Yarises in Holland and they love them to death. So we Yaris owners here on Yaris World just have very sophisticated Euro taste and value what the Yaris has to offer. Consumers Reports doesn't. I seem to recollect an article some time back that made the point the Yaris hatchback was styled in France.

So maybe what we all need is a YARISWORLD beret!

[yarrr]

As someone who literally owns 20 years of cr reports auto issues, I can say they stopped being automotively relevant sometime in the late 90's. Be it politics or stupidity, their ratings are biased big time.

I'm sure this had nothing to do with the failing of the american car companies either... lol

You hit it on the head though, in the 90s CR was one of the most important tools any consumer could use. Now I prefer the little astrology pamphlets sold in line at the grocery store over CR.

[specialeducator]

:thumbup:One of the things overlooked in my opinion is that the Yaris is primarily designed for the European market and sold in the USA and the new Fit is designed for the USA market. So European values- fuel economy and safety are paramount on the Yaris whereas on the Fit interior space, utility and safer handling (i.e. - understeer in the US is considered safer) got designed into the Fit.

The qualities like a wee bit of oversteer, and traction control, stability control etc. (even knee airbags- are virtually universal on Eurohatches and that's where the $ went for on our Yarises.

My wife is Dutch and her family members drive Yarises in Holland and they love them to death. So we Yaris owners here on Yaris World just have very sophisticated Euro taste and value what the Yaris has to offer. Consumers Reports doesn't. I seem to recollect an article some time back that made the point the Yaris hatchback was styled in France.

So maybe what we all need is a YARISWORLD beret!

Sorry, but the Fit has been sold as the Jazz for several years before being brought to America.

[cali yaris]

One of the things overlooked in my opinion is that the Yaris is primarily designed for the European market

Except that it was in Japan first?

[ddongbap]

Gosh, in my wild youth I always thought of that as a "feature". :drinking:

Biggest LOL ever.

[Kal-El]

^^Yup, if a BMW does it, it's amazingly great. When a Yaris does it, then :thumbdown:

:rolleyes:

[ddongbap]

^^Yup, if a BMW does it, it's amazingly great. When a Yaris does it, then :thumbdown:

:rolleyes:

Well, a Yaris doesn't advertise itself as the ultimate driving machine.

[birdman]

When I drive aggressively my stock Yaris gets a respectable 32 mpg on average. When I am careful and use the Ecometer I can get over 50 mpg on a flat highway. It seems odd that Consumer Reports says this car has poor road handling and acceleration. Mine handles really good. I did add the TRD sway bar. Once I got used to the automatic and the computer learned my driving habits it has plenty of power with little to no hesitation. That's why I still own it. Other than troubles with batteries going dead because of my first defective Ecometer, there have been Zero. The new Ecometer has been in the car for a good while now and so far the battery is good. I live in snow country and all I have is a good set of studded winter tires and it drives great. No ABS or any other traction devices either. I think this is a clever roomy well thought out unique little smile getter that I have no plan on selling any time soon. I shortened the gas pedal and removed the foot rest and have enough additional leg room to be quite good on long drives. Great fun.