Philips HID Kit - Help Needed

[Meteorite_Marty]

Hello Yarisworld,

I am considering purchasing a Philips 6000K HID kit, after researching and concluding they are the best (up for debate, but not here, not now please). Although the staff at http://www.autolamps-online.com (not a shameless plug) has been great in providing me details, I wanted to ask the Yarisworld members the more specific details relating directly to the Yaris.

Recently, I have been corresponding with their support staff, and have received and installation diagram that I would like some assistance with please. I am not sure where some of the wires would run to. If I relate it to my fog light install that I did using Toyota's manual, then I had to use a a relay in the interior fusebox, and a wiring into the engine fusebox as well.

Looking at the picture, is there anything like that to be done? Where does the relay go? What does the 20A fuse mean? Also, what does the bottom right diagram warning mean? Since the Yaris has this shield in the mirror housing, is the HID bulb going to hit it?

Please offer any relevant details to clear my uncertainty. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[ozmdd]

If you are purchasing a bixenon kit (HID for both Hi and lo beams), you will need to wire to a 12V lead. I simply added a relay off the battery, and have had no problems. I will advise you that I NEVER use the hi beams (the pattern is uneven) and the lo beams are awesome. If I did it again, I would only buy a single HID setup.

[thebarber]

you really should just buy a kit off of me...whats a phillips kit going to run you? H4 from me would be $100 for bixenon, I'm local, and when the weather is nice, I'd help you install it....i have just about every H4 colour in-stock right now too

the wiring is easy peasy....install is like an hour

[yaris0985]

Where does the relay go?
the short side (see picture) go on driver side and long wiring on passager side, my I pass the cable just under the lacth (for open the hood) put some GOOD tie-wrap until the passager
What does the 20A fuse mean- because yaris have DRL (day running light) so like that your light and ballast does freak (because DRL work on 6v) not sure...the fuse is on the relay

if you speak french I already dit a HOW TO -
http://www.clubecho-yarisquebec.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=9377

[thebarber]

the hid's basically run off the battery and the relay acts as a switch off the stock wiring. so when the drl's come on, it switches on the circuit for the hids. so you have full power hid's as your drl's. i have this setup on my chevy aveo....i took out the drl module in the yaris...

the relay sits under my drivers side headlight

[Meteorite_Marty]

Haven't bought them yet. They will run around $400.

Not saying I'm willing to pay this much, but the real deal seems to cost more.

I've read plenty of horror stories about fried electrical systems, flickering light patterns etc that I just want to be cautious/informed before making any purchases, and especially before doing any install.

[thebarber]

install is easy

i havent had any problems w/ my kit

[YAR1S]

EEKKK! Dont pay $400 for Hids !
the one's that Garm sells seem to be very good...
I've had mine for a few months and others have had them longer.

[ozmdd]

Yeah...anything over $120 is too much for HID's these days. The stuff Garm and Barber are selling is no different than the phillips stuff, unless phillips is claiming their stuff is DOT-approved.

[arunto]

I have the Bi-Xenons that Garm sells...they work great. Output and color are very good.

[Meteorite_Marty]

I have the Bi-Xenons that Garm sells...they work great. Output and color are very good.

I was considering these. I know he sells top quality stuff. Do they work well with the mirror housings and plug and play with Yaris stock wiring?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

I was considering these. I know he sells top quality stuff. Do they work well with the mirror housings and plug and play with Yaris stock wiring?

I too would recommend these. The bulbs fit perfectly, everything is plug and play, and the lights themselves are great quality.

[Meteorite_Marty]

So Garms can do high and low beams, hense "bi-xenon"?

How does that affect daytime running lights, dashboard display icons for low/highbeam?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Hi-beams symbol doesn't work. Dunno about daytime running lights.

[thebarber]

the ones i sell have a relay harness so theyll come on as drl's w/o flickering....i have h4 bixenons on my aveo w/ drls

seriously man, just buy 'em from me, ill take care of you. im sure garm and i buy them from the same place in china...

[Meteorite_Marty]

the ones i sell have a relay harness so theyll come on as drl's w/o flickering....i have h4 bixenons on my aveo w/ drls

seriously man, just buy 'em from me, ill take care of you. im sure garm and i buy them from the same place in china...

I'm still considering even getting HIDs. I want to fully understand what I will gain/loss by going with as SET.

Can you comment on whether the dash symbols are lost for low/high beam?

[1.5]

Ok, so as this is my first car with bi-xenon lights, I have a couple questions.

I have had HID's in my last 3 cars and they have all been plug and play kits. I dont think I ever turned on my high beams with the HID's installed. The whole thing about relays and shit makes me hesitate on whether or not to buy them. However, I do love that with the bi-xenon kit uses the HID's as its drl's too!

1. Does the kit from Garm use the HID's as drl's as well?
2. Is Garm's kit plug and play?
3. thebarber, is your kit plug and play? if not how hard is it to install?

thanks guys

[thebarber]

I'm still considering even getting HIDs. I want to fully understand what I will gain/loss by going with as SET.

Can you comment on whether the dash symbols are lost for low/high beam?
high beam indicator doesnt work, no. it seems to be the way that the yaris is wired

Ok, so as this is my first car with bi-xenon lights, I have a couple questions.

I have had HID's in my last 3 cars and they have all been plug and play kits. I dont think I ever turned on my high beams with the HID's installed. The whole thing about relays and shit makes me hesitate on whether or not to buy them. However, I do love that with the bi-xenon kit uses the HID's as its drl's too!

1. Does the kit from Garm use the HID's as drl's as well?
2. Is Garm's kit plug and play?
3. thebarber, is your kit plug and play? if not how hard is it to install?

thanks guys

my kits are plug and play

install is easy....took me about 30 or 45 min since its easiest to take off the bumper and headlights to get at everything...

[1.5]

and your kit uses the HIDs as drls? What temperatures do you offer?

[WeeYari]

^ iirc, he has everything ranging from 3500 up to 8000.

[thebarber]

actually i sell 3000k to 10000k is the normal...12000k is bit more money....i can get higher temps as well as weird colours like green and red, but they're more expensive

right now i have H4 bixenons in 4300k, 5000k, 6000k, 8000k, and 10000k, iirc

[ozmdd]

Don't be put-off by the relay's used for bixenon - they are super easy to install. No real wiring to do, just plug and play, other than one 12V connection to the battery.

I lost my Hi-beam indicator on the dash, but everything else is as-normal. Don't have DRL's so can't speak about that.

When I had a xenon low/halogen high piggy-back setup, the indicators were normal, but the pattern on both hi and lo sucked ass, and the hi-beams looked awful when switching from HID to halogen.

[1.5]

thebarber i know Im prolly becoming a pita lol but u think you could post some color samples? Id like to see your 8k, 10k, and the "red" you're talking about. thanks.

[thebarber]

thebarber i know Im prolly becoming a pita lol but u think you could post some color samples? Id like to see your 8k, 10k, and the "red" you're talking about. thanks.

ive never actually ordered RED, but i have it available

ill have to dig for some colour samples of the 8 and 10k, but they're the same as any other colours you'd fine online...

[1.5]

im a complete idiot lol i never even checked if my car had drls, I just assumed it did when everyone was talking about them lol. I dont even have them on my car, so I just need the regular bi-xenon version if its different.

[thebarber]

im a complete idiot lol i never even checked if my car had drls, I just assumed it did when everyone was talking about them lol. I dont even have them on my car, so I just need the regular bi-xenon version if its different.

the ones i sell are all the same...they have the relay. since the hid's run directly off the battery, the relay is necessary so when there is any voltage running thru the wiring, they'll turn on and run off the battery. it really only uses 1 stock headlight plug as a switch for the hid system....

so whether you have drls or not, the system is the same. my yaris doesnt have drls, but my aveo does. both cars have the same kit

[1.5]

ok i see well ill deff let you know when im ready just wana see the examples of the colors. I had 8000s in my first 2 and 10000 in my last car. All 3 looked different so Im just looking for examples of yours.

[Meteorite_Marty]

I don't like the idea of losing some of the dash notification icons (the high beam icon) just because the HIDs are installed. Seems like the HIDs aren't really meant to work properly with the car's dashboard alerts. Are there any other limitations when using fog lights in this system? Does this icon disappear too? Maybe someone has got all dash icons to function with HIDs, and could advise how? Clearly, we (at least I) don't know enough about the installation, or how the HIDs electronics work with the car's default wiring, if certain things are not functioning after the install. Just my take... I really would like to learn to make it all work together and not lose any dash symbols in the process. I spent so much effort getting everything Toyota factory-standard wiring when adding my aftermarket fogs and headlight stalk, what I would want to do similar for HIDs (even though there is no factory option for HIDs on this car).

[joeljcruz86]

I have a problem with my HID's. For the first 2 months since i've had them, they were working fine until now. They only come on when i have a normal headlight bulb plugged into the leftover/passenger side harness. I don't know why this is happening. I was thinking of using a wire with a 10k ohm 1/4watt resistor in the middle to plug into the to top hole on one end and the other to the right hole of the left over harness. This method i found on one of the forums is for to get the high beam light to show in the guage cluster. I'm hoping that this method would substitute the "normal headlight bulb" to get the HID's to be working as well.

If anybody has any solution and knows for a fact that any of the methods is not going to work, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!! THANK YOU.

[brieghne]

i got my philips brand hid 6000k for $200 brand new if your interested lemme know ;) i say the lights look alot better than of those generic ones :D

[Meteorite_Marty]

i got my philips brand hid 6000k for $200 brand new if your interested lemme know ;) i say the lights look alot better than of those generic ones :D

Thanks for the info. Did you figure a way to get the highbeam dash icon to work?