GROUP BUY: 1NZ to 1ZZ TB spacer/adapter

[tk-421]

Looks like xen555 was able to find a fabricator for the TB spacers (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=441530&postcount=161). These ones are specifically made for those that have a 1ZZ throttle body so as to make a smooth transition between the 1NZ intake mani and the TB. The fabricator can also add a hole for the nitrous nozzle if required.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31669&stc=1&d=1265935356

The normal price is $125, which is a bit steep, but we may be able to get a discount if we buy a few as a group.

SPECIAL GROUP BUY PRICE is $105 shipped inside the US, but we need at least 5 people to lock into this price!

So who's interested?

1. tk-421 [NOS] PAID
2. Maitre_Te_Te PAID
3. cruz-gsr [NOS] PAID
4. MGargano PAID
5. :confused:

[Yoda]

what does it do?

[tk-421]

It improves throttle response a bit and reduces turbulence when coupled with a 1ZZ throttle body. It will also come in handy for those of us who want a quick and painless way to install a nitrous fogger.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

denpending the price with reduction, i'm interesting

[tk-421]

I'll add you to the list for now. :thumbsup:

1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3.
4.
5.

[kac]

Really wouldn't mind having it. but can't justify that money right at this time, if the price goes down a lil in a month or two or three maybe i can justify it then...

[cruz-gsr]

im in if the price does down

[tk-421]

1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr
4.
5.

[Toy Yaris]

Will this affect the cai mounting point being a thicker around the tb area??? not sure if the cai has much more room to move or it will hut the fender liner how thick is the spacer??

[tk-421]

The spacer is 1" thick, so I don't think it would affect CAI placement too much. The hose should be flexible enough to accommodate.

[xen555]

i finally install it yesterday... the corolla TB with the 1" spacer... runs very good, i feel the diference in the low mid and high rpms never have oscilations, uphill i have to press the gas just a little and with WOT woooww is like other car LOL thanks to everyone in the forum for the help im very happy with this mod, and almost forgot i never have a single CEL!!!
:burnrubber::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[tk-421]

@xen555: That's great news, especially about the CEL (or lack thereof).
Have you heard anything from the fabricator yet about the GB pricing?

[cruz-gsr]

any updates on the spacer

[tk-421]

Nothing yet, unfortunately.
I'll try PMing xen555 and update the thread ASAP.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

Who do this mod!?!?

The interested list:
1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr
4.
5.

[tk-421]

OK I just sent an e-mail to the fabricator to see if he's interested. I'll post the answer ASAP.

[cruz-gsr]

let me know, i want to install my nos kit

[cali yaris]

Someone will have to dyno before and after to show any power gain (or loss).

[H3LlIoN]

You can slap my name on the "interested" list, pending a price update. Dyno would be nice too, like Garm said. I've got my 1ZZ tb chilling in a box in my living room, along with the 1zz injectors and fuel rails. Not sure if those are useful or not though.

[pongochants]

absolutely no need, unless you guys are running into issues. Mine works fine w/o adapter.

[tk-421]

You can slap my name on the "interested" list
1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr
4. H3LlIoN
5. :thumbsup:

[cruz-gsr]

tk i think i found a fabricator for this, unless the other person said yes

[tk-421]

This other dude is MIA, so it might be the best course of action.
What are his prices like? Do you think he can do the O-ring inset like the one on this pic?

[cruz-gsr]

i get my TB tomorrow on the mail and then well start working on it

[H3LlIoN]

Glad this is back on track...curious to see where this goes.

[cruz-gsr]

absolutely no need, unless you guys are running into issues. Mine works fine w/o adapter.

the main thing for me is the nos fogger that will go there for an easy install.

[cruz-gsr]

ok here is the deal, i found a fabricator to do this for us at $95 each if we order 5, the down fall is i will need to pay in advance and will take about a week for them to be ready. who is in

[tk-421]

Nice price!
How close would the design be to the pic on the first post?

[cruz-gsr]

perfect, the only issue i got is the o-rings, i need to go to the parts store tomorrow to see if i can find them.

[MGargano]

ok here is the deal, i found a fabricator to do this for us at $95 each if we order 5, the down fall is i will need to pay in advance and will take about a week for them to be ready. who is in

I'm in- my second 1ZZ should be here in a couple days.

I ran into some oscillation issues with the first one and took it off to be safe during the cold weather, but summer's here and I'm ready to try again

[H3LlIoN]

I don't always remember which threads I've posted in, so PM me if you guys come looking for money and I aren't responding.

Also, I got the coils/injectors/fuel rail off the 1ZZ along with the TB...would it do me any good to slap that stuff on there too?

[tk-421]

I'm in
1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr
4. H3LlIoN
5. MGargano
6. :thumbsup:

[cruz-gsr]

im going to a second place on monday just to price shop, and then we will decide if we are moving forward and collect payments.

[pongochants]

whats the purpose of this adapter? I have a larger TB and I just bolted mine on. Does this allow for a higher rate of flow or something like that? Also, if you bring up the TB to 1zz, whats to stop you from going with 1zz fuel injectors, and maybe even pump?

[H3LlIoN]

The adapter makes the transition smoother, would will reduce turbulence in your intake. Also, it adds an easy spot for the nos jets, if you are looking at going that way.

I too am curious about the injectors, as my TB came with 1zz coils/injectors/fuel rail too. I new to FI, but methinks you would still need to reprogram ecu to send more fuel. Not sure though, hopefully someone with more experience will pop in for the assist.

[tk-421]

I do know 1ZZ injectors are a drop-in replacement for our cars, since the Yaris ECU compensates for the difference in flow automatically. Not sure about the other components.

[pongochants]

put me down for one with a nos valve on it.

[tk-421]

1. tk-421
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr
4. H3LlIoN
5. MGargano
6. pongochants
7. :thumbsup:

[pongochants]

I am running without this right now, and its fine. This will help with the response time and give a quick place to install NOS correct? I just wanted to make sure that it would fit up and everything. Never installed one of these before. Think it will cause a CEL?



Also quick question for those who know, if I put in this and a 1zz TB, is it necessary to put some defoulers on? I only ask because you are adjusting the air/fuel mix and didn't wanna foul them out... I also switched to a higher octane fuel, and it runs better.

[cruz-gsr]

i need to start collecting the money by friday, the fabricator will start the pieces on saturday and will take about a week. who is in.
Spacer $95 plus $10 to cover shipping and paypal fee.

send your paypal to cruz_gsr@hotmail.com

[tk-421]

I'm in. I'll try to pay you by tonight, but if I can't, I'll definitely do it by Friday.
Thanks for doing this, cruz-gsr! :thumbsup:

I can update the list for people who want a nitrous hole in the spacer to simplify things. Just let me know in this thread and I'll get it done.

[hondakiller99]

question here.... i have a 05 scion xa wid the 1nzfe..... i think i know the anwser here, but this will work for my car , correct? i mean i m trying to grab as much power as possible before i do anything major like a motor build and drop a serious amount of cash. also , prob off topic, but , does anyone make a performance intake manifold for the 1nz? i know a few people have tried and failed miserablly lol

[tk-421]

This spacer should work on the xA, but I can't be 100% sure on it.
The intake mani is actually being developed by MicroImage, and they should have a prototype ready for testing soon.

[cruz-gsr]

tk, for some reason a cant send pongochants a message about the spacer, can you foward the one i send you.

[tk-421]

Looks like pongochants got banned. Again.

[cruz-gsr]

why

[cruz-gsr]

paid so far:
Cruz-gsr
Pgargano
TK (Friday)

[hondakiller99]

im beyond tempted to order this part.... where can i get the tb though? lol

[tk-421]

Check the appropriate forum (Items for Sale by Private Party). They were selling one a few days ago.

[tk-421]

why

No idea... I'll have to ask.

[cruz-gsr]

im beyond tempted to order this part.... where can i get the tb though? lol

i got mine from ebay

[MiniTRD]

ummm, this may be a dumb question but . . .


will this work with the stock tb? I ran a tb spacer on my tC and liked the improvements. or will this only work with the larger tb?

[tk-421]

This will likely cause a leak on a stock TB because of the smaller diameter. You should get a straight version of the spacer for stock TB's, which is what xB folks have been doing for a while with favorable results (AFAIK).

[cruz-gsr]

ummm, this may be a dumb question but . . .


will this work with the stock tb? I ran a tb spacer on my tC and liked the improvements. or will this only work with the larger tb?

but a that point why dont you upgrade the TB, trust me it makes a world of difference.

[tk-421]

So far, the list looks like this:

1. tk-421 [NOS]
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr [NOS]
4. H3LlIoN
5. MGargano
6. pongochants
7. :thumbsup:

Remember to specify whether you want a NOS hole or not!

[cruz-gsr]

update
TK (friday)
Cruz-gsr (paid)
Maintre_te_te (friday)
MGargano (paid)

we just need one more

[tk-421]

Payment sent. :thumbsup:

[cruz-gsr]

thanks tk

[tk-421]

Latest list:

1. tk-421 [NOS] PAID
2. Maitre_Te_Te
3. cruz-gsr [NOS] PAID
4. H3LlIoN
5. MGargano PAID

@cruz-gsr: Have you received any other payments yet?

[cruz-gsr]

no, maitre pm'd me and im still waiting, the other guys never answer.

[cruz-gsr]

H3LlIoN is out

[cruz-gsr]

Maitre paid, so it looks like is just the 4 of us

[Maitre_Te_Te]

I don't want nos...
Maitre_te_te (Paid) No nos

[tk-421]

1. tk-421 [NOS] PAID
2. Maitre_Te_Te PAID
3. cruz-gsr [NOS] PAID
4. MGargano PAID
5. :confused:

[tk-421]

Bump. We need at least one more!

[Maitre_Te_Te]

If no add, can we buy it?

[Maitre_Te_Te]

I have strat a thread for the spacer at www.clubecho-yarisquebec.com.
This is a club for quebec city.

[tk-421]

If no add, can we buy it?

Yes, but the price would be higher.

I have strat a thread for the spacer at www.clubecho-yarisquebec.com.
This is a club for quebec city.

Good idea! Keep us posted. :thumbsup:

[cruz-gsr]

i talk to the fabricator and he said he will make the 4 units for us at the same price, so we are good for now, he said to check with him on wenesday to see if he is done.

[cruz-gsr]

hey good news, i just pick up the parts from the shop i will start shipping tomorrow, the only issue is that it does not have the o-ring becouse i din't find one that will fit, other that that it came out like a charm.

[cruz-gsr]

here are some pics
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll447/cruz-gsr/DSC05220.jpg
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll447/cruz-gsr/DSC05221.jpg
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll447/cruz-gsr/DSC05222.jpg

[tk-421]

Looking real good! :thumbsup:
I wonder if not having the o-ring will create issues down the road though...

Another question I've been meaning to ask: Which NOS fogger will you be using for making the hole in the adapter? I have a NX fogger myself; not sure if it's compatible with other systems...

Ooo and last question: Do you think the fabber could anodize my piece either black or dark gray?

[cruz-gsr]

yours and mine i need to bring back tomorrow to make the holes but if you want ill ship yours w/o the hole, i have a nos system and i don't know if is the same, also the fab told me that if i use the silicone that is for making gaskets i will not have any problems and i can ask him about the anodize but hell probably charge more.

[tk-421]

I'm willing to pay a little more for the anodizing. Please ask him how much it'll cost.
As far as the hole... I'm not sure. Might be tough to get it done around here.
I could post a pic of my fogger and compare it to yours?

[cruz-gsr]

ok do that and i can compare it to mine.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

Question, one side is designed for to install the 1zz throtel body and other side for intall on intake manifold but the size of the hole is biger than the yaris TB hole or the same diameter??? If this is the same, I think that the 1zz TB become like a 1nz TB!

[tk-421]

The diameter on the 1ZZ TB is larger than the 1NZ TB. Hence the benefit of having the adapter to smooth things out.

@cruz-gsr: Here's the pic of my fogger:
http://tinyurl.com/ygqgk26

[Maitre_Te_Te]

anubody have a new about shiping?

[cruz-gsr]

yeah they ship yesterday, for you they said i will take about a week to 10 days.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

ok, tanks!!!

[MGargano]

Received mine today. This thing looks hot! Can't wait to do the install, though I just realized I'll need longer bolts or studs to bolt the 1ZZ TB and spacer to the manifold, since the OEM ones will be too short (and I snapped a stud the last time I tried this swap, so I've been running with 3 for a few months).

What are you guys planning to use in between the TB/spacer and spacer/manifold to ensure a good seal?

[cruz-gsr]

im going to use the black silicone that is desing for making gaskets its like $3 at autozone

[Maitre_Te_Te]

Anybody have receive her spacer and test it???

[tk-421]

Received mine today. This thing looks hot! Can't wait to do the install, though I just realized I'll need longer bolts or studs to bolt the 1ZZ TB and spacer to the manifold, since the OEM ones will be too short.

Please post the longer bolt size if/when you can. I'm still waiting on my spacer, so I can go get these before it gets here. TIA

[MGargano]

Please post the longer bolt size if/when you can. I'm still waiting on my spacer, so I can go get these before it gets here. TIA

Ditto. Actually, I have my TB and spacer, but I'd rather someone else be the guinea pig on this one. And I need the specs for the longer bolts.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

I receive my spacer... tanks. Anybody have try her???

[Maitre_Te_Te]

the intake side of spacer (not throtel side) is smaller tan other side, Ok but this is the same diameter taht the original throtel? If this is the same diameter, the 1zz throtel body become a 1nz throtel body...??? Anybody can explain to me please? Im not good with physic! lollll :smile:

[AlexNet0]

its good that someone picked this up where i failed to deliver

[tk-421]

the intake side of spacer (not throtel side) is smaller tan other side, Ok but this is the same diameter taht the original throtel? If this is the same diameter, the 1zz throtel body become a 1nz throtel body...??? Anybody can explain to me please? Im not good with physic! lollll :smile:

The spacer has two holes: One with a regular 1NZ diameter hole in it, and the other one with a larger 1ZZ diameter. You need to attach it so the small hole is facing the manifold and the large hole is facing your 1ZZ throttle body.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

The spacer has two holes: One with a regular 1NZ diameter hole in it, and the other one with a larger 1ZZ diameter. You need to attach it so the small hole is facing the manifold and the large hole is facing your 1ZZ throttle body.

Yes I know but if the hole is the same that original, what for use a larger thrtoel if you reduce de diameter. The 1zz throtel is juste to litel larger than the holl of intake manifold, so the spacer can be 2.2 ich to 2 ich, not 2.2 ich to 1.8 inch? I think :P

[Maitre_Te_Te]

The bolt is M6 X 1.00 (metric) and the Length is 75mm aprosimative (3 inch)

I search for to find a dealer

[Maitre_Te_Te]

I have install mine today. I have use the original gasket for intake to spacer, and for spacer to TB just a silicone. Bolt is M6 X 1.00 3 inch . Result, idle fix at 600 RPM and maby a litle diffrent at mid range but at cold start, engine go at 2900rpm.

[MGargano]

I picked up the M6 x 1.00 x 75 bolts today and will hopefully be tackling this soon

[yarstar]

Damn. I should have been watching this forum. Is there a way I can still get one of these? Payment can be immediate.

[cruz-gsr]

.....

[Bluevitz-rs]

Someone post up a picture of the installed piece.

[cruz-gsr]

i installed my spacer and TB today, the idle settle at like 6k rpm but my check engine ligth came on and it has not come off, any ideas what did i do wrong. I did unplug the batt for like an hour before i plug it back in.

[tk-421]

A 6K RPM idle is extremely high. Something's definitely wrong there. Not sure what the problem could be, but you may want to unplug the battery for longer to make sure the ECU completely resets itself.

[cruz-gsr]

sorry 600 rpm

[Yariz]

The adapter makes the transition smoother, would will reduce turbulence in your intake. Also, it adds an easy spot for the nos jets, if you are looking at going that way.

I too am curious about the injectors, as my TB came with 1zz coils/injectors/fuel rail too. I new to FI, but methinks you would still need to reprogram ecu to send more fuel. Not sure though, hopefully someone with more experience will pop in for the assist.



Will this give a HP gain, or any sort of response difference?:confused:

[cruz-gsr]

im going to dyno my car soon with the spacer and w/out as soon can in school

[Yariz]

Sweet let me know how it goes, I am gonna try to get one on the next order if I can.

[tk-421]

sorry 600 rpm

600 RPM is within the normal idle (I have ~500 RPM myself with the 1ZZ TB). The CEL should go away after a few trips, but I can't say for sure.

[cruz-gsr]

ill wait a couple of days to see if it clears if not ill unplug the batt for like 6 hours

[New2tuning]

Is there any way one could get the prints on this part? It doesn't look that hard to make. Even with the o-ring.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

do you gave aply silicone between spacer and throttel

[captaincrunch]

Is there a spacer for the 1NZ-FE?:burnrubber:

[redglare45]

Is there a spacer for the 1NZ-FE?:burnrubber:

Exactly what I was thinking. Will they be making a spacer for those of us that don't have the 1ZZ TB???

[tk-421]

Is there a spacer for the 1NZ-FE?:burnrubber:

Exactly what I was thinking. Will they be making a spacer for those of us that don't have the 1ZZ TB???

I remember seeing 1NZ spacers in scionlife. I suggest you look there as well. :thumbsup:

[cruz-gsr]

.......

[redglare45]

Yeah I did look over at scionlife, but from what I remember the throttle body is different. I believe the shape and it only has 3 screws and ours has 4.

It would be great if you can do 1NZ TO 1NZ TB spacers on the next run. :smile:

[captaincrunch]

I found one on advance auto parts. I don't know if its the exact put it looks that it might fit.

[kliwonz]

waiting for dyno result...

[Bluevitz-rs]

waiting for dyno result...


And at least a picture.

[captaincrunch]

the picture on advance auto parts doesn't seem like it would fit, but it may be just a picture display. The brand is Airraid. I'm going to find out for sure if its for real.

[MGargano]

I've had the 1ZZ TB and spacer setup installed for about 3 months so far. To be honest, I feel no difference in performance when using the spacer. It seems to reduce the 1ZZ down to a 1NZ, as I believe someone pointed out earlier in this thread.

When I had the 1ZZ installed previously, with no spacer, I felt a definite and measurable increase in performance. All I see now is a high cold idle and a jerky-ness when I let off the gas. I've had no CEL and no oscillation though, which is a perk I guess.

I don't know if my results are the same as everyone else who is using this spacer. I'd be interested to hear other reviews.

[tk-421]

This mod isn't really meant to increase performance as much as helping in smoothing out the flow of air in order to reduce that jerkiness you felt before the spacer, as well as make the air a tiny bit colder which, among other things, should increase throttle response by a small amount.

The high cold idle can be eliminated by messing around with the idle screw, BTW. Just be careful not to use too much force or you will strip it.

[Vanquisher]

I've had the 1ZZ TB and spacer setup installed for about 3 months so far. To be honest, I feel no difference in performance when using the spacer. It seems to reduce the 1ZZ down to a 1NZ, as I believe someone pointed out earlier in this thread.

When I had the 1ZZ installed previously, with no spacer, I felt a definite and measurable increase in performance. All I see now is a high cold idle and a jerky-ness when I let off the gas. I've had no CEL and no oscillation though, which is a perk I guess.

I don't know if my results are the same as everyone else who is using this spacer. I'd be interested to hear other reviews.

Same here.

Custom my own spacer,try it and took it off.
Without the spacer will be smoother.

But now idle at 1500rpm

[Yoda]

anyone tried to port match the intake manifold with the tb? You could trim it out alittle its just plastic after all

[kou]

anyone tried to port match the intake manifold with the tb? You could trim it out alittle its just plastic after all

Me.http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28657&highlight=intake+manifold+throttle+body

[Yoda]

Me.http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28657&highlight=intake+manifold+throttle+body

o nice you should dyno it :)