Sedan - custom center exit exhaust.

[Herbicidal]

Well after looking and looking at aftermarket exhaust systems, I'm....well....exhausted. :tongue: I've always liked Kaotic Lasagna's center exit on his sedan, so it looks like I'm going to copy him. What's that saying, something like "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"? I like his system better than say dual stacks out the trunk lid! :biggrin: Anyway, I found a muffler/exhaust shop about 8 miles from where I live that does custom work. I have a ton of info from K.L about his system, so I'm taking all that with me tomorrow and I'm meeting with the owner of the shop to hopefully get an estimate for the work. Unless they have a smokin' deal on a muffler, I'll probably order that piece off the internet and bring it to him. I think his shop can do mandrel bends for a nice smooth exhaust flow. I'll keep ya'll posted and shoot some pics as it comes together. :thumbsup:

[06silveryaris]

what tip did you get?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Mandel bends! That's going to be better than mine!

[Herbicidal]

Mandel bends! That's going to be better than mine!I'm not trying to out-do you, hopefully that's what this shop does. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

what tip did you get? I haven't decided yet. I'll see what the shop has available to get some ideas. I think for it to look right, it needs to be a dual outlet, probably stainless steel.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I'm not trying to out-do you, hopefully that's what this shop does. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

I haven't decided yet. I'll see what the shop has available to get some ideas. I think for it to look right, it needs to be a dual outlet, probably stainless steel.

hahaha, by all means, out-do me. If you can get mandrel bends, go for it. Much better than crush bends. :thumbsup:

[Herbicidal]

I met with the owner of the muffler/exhaust shop (Mark) on Saturday and he's a cool dude! His partner in crime is Bill and both are very knowledgable about custom systems. We put my car up on his rack and looked at the system basically from the cat's back. In the end, we'll probably leave the factory resonator and just work in a new muffler (brand name I don't remember but is new to the market) just past the rear axle and run the remaining distance to a dual tip center exit. He doesn't do mandrel bends, but for our size motor, as long as the curves are not too sharp, his piping will flow just fine. They totally agree about keeping it 'clean' and 'simple' and tucked up out of sight. We also talked about painting the muffler and the piping black so that the only thing you see is that dual tip! At one point, they both went out to their cars and fired 'em up so I could hear their exhaust, that was pretty cool. They are both a couple of gearheads. :biggrin:

I didn't even think to bring my camera, but all us that were at the shop (even a passerby) like the center exhaust (mocked it up on a couple of stands so we could stand back and get a good look at it) and both Mark and Bill believe they can run with less pipe than Kaotic Lazagna has (sorry man!). I took with me pictures of K.L's exhaust and that helped immensely! Now I just need to do it! So far I am very impressed with these guys at All Muffler Services, Inc. in Rocklin, CA. I spent about an hour and a half talking with them and getting an education myself about Magnaflow vs Flowmaster, etc. They were more than willing to listen to what I wanted and feel confident they can set me up with a system that I will love! The out-the-door quote for the muffler, dual tip, piping, labor, etc is just a hair over $400. This is a little more than I was hoping to spend, but these guys will do what it takes to make me happy and they are local so that makes them easy to work with. So far, I would recommend these guys to anyone in the greater Sacramento area if you are considering a custom exhaust. When I left, I felt like I had known these guys for years, they are really super nice, down to earth people that love what they do.

As I'm sure you can tell, I'm excited about getting this done, just need to check my finances and pull the trigger. I definately want it done before our Nor-Cal meet next month. :thumbsup:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

hahaha, I think I know how they're doing it so that it requires less piping than mine. They're going to use a muffler that has an inlet and outlet on opposite sides, oppose to mine that has it on the same side. Then they're going to do a 90 degree turn to the driver side of the car towards the mid-line, then another 90 degree to make it go out the rear. Definitely less piping and bends than my set up. However, $400 seems really high for an axle-back. If you really want to spend less than that, you should go to where I had mine done.

[Gideon]

^ +1

I think I had my exhaust done at the same place (MufflerTech Laz?) and I think it was no more than $300.

Although they didn't go as in depth as the place you went to, but then again, I didn't ask many questions as I knew exactly what I wanted to get. (Piping size, cat delete, stock resonator etc)

Although they were nice enough to show me an example car with the muffler I was recommended so I could hear it. (I wanted Borla, but my wallet said no, so we found a Magnaflow with a similar tone) If you're curious we could meet up so you can hear my exhaust, I don't know what you're looking for as far as sound, but mine has a deep tone that's very nice, albeit loud. :)

[Herbicidal]

^ +1

I think I had my exhaust done at the same place (MufflerTech Laz?) and I think it was no more than $300.

Although they didn't go as in depth as the place you went to, but then again, I didn't ask many questions as I knew exactly what I wanted to get. (Piping size, cat delete, stock resonator etc)

Although they were nice enough to show me an example car with the muffler I was recommended so I could hear it. (I wanted Borla, but my wallet said no, so we found a Magnaflow with a similar tone) If you're curious we could meet up so you can hear my exhaust, I don't know what you're looking for as far as sound, but mine has a deep tone that's very nice, albeit loud. :)Thanks Gideon, I appreciate the offer. This week is rather...errr....Kaotic! Maybe shoot me a PM with your availability if you don't mind. I work until 4pm, down in Rancho Cordova, then head up to Roseville. If not sometime this week, maybe during the weekend?

hahaha, I think I know how they're doing it so that it requires less piping than mine. They're going to use a muffler that has an inlet and outlet on opposite sides, oppose to mine that has it on the same side. Then they're going to do a 90 degree turn to the driver side of the car towards the mid-line, then another 90 degree to make it go out the rear. Definitely less piping and bends than my set up. However, $400 seems really high for an axle-back. If you really want to spend less than that, you should go to where I had mine done.From what I recall, it wasn't so much 90's, but maybe closer to 45 (or 60?) degree angles coming over the axle and out the back. The dual tip, I believe is stainless, at $80 and has a look that I like alot. They were also going to replace the hangers with poly bushings instead of the rubber ones which allow the exhaust to really move about. I'm not saying all this is worth an extra $100, but I'll think about it some more.

[Gideon]

Thanks Gideon, I appreciate the offer. This week is rather...errr....Kaotic! Maybe shoot me a PM with your availability if you don't mind. I work until 4pm, down in Rancho Cordova, then head up to Roseville. If not sometime this week, maybe during the weekend?

My availability is crap this week, I have a lot of late days, but my weekend is wide open for the most part so we should hang out then for sure. :biggrin:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Herb, you're in luck. I live in Rancho Cordova. hahahahaha. Hit me up to see if I'm home when you're available.

Oh, the bends I was referring to where after the muffler outlet. I can't remember the bends before the inlet. hehehe.

But yeah, SS tip and new hangers, I can see why they're charging 400 big ones. I think my resonator-back would have been close to 400 if I had gotten a SS tip.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

^ +1

I think I had my exhaust done at the same place (MufflerTech Laz?) and I think it was no more than $300.

Although they didn't go as in depth as the place you went to, but then again, I didn't ask many questions as I knew exactly what I wanted to get. (Piping size, cat delete, stock resonator etc)

Although they were nice enough to show me an example car with the muffler I was recommended so I could hear it. (I wanted Borla, but my wallet said no, so we found a Magnaflow with a similar tone) If you're curious we could meet up so you can hear my exhaust, I don't know what you're looking for as far as sound, but mine has a deep tone that's very nice, albeit loud. :)

Yup, correct, James, Muffler Tech.

[Gideon]

Yup, correct, James, Muffler Tech.

Yeah, though so. Found my receipt, it was $340 with my SS dual tip. (Which was $60)

[Herbicidal]

My availability is crap this week, I have a lot of late days, but my weekend is wide open for the most part so we should hang out then for sure. :biggrin: I'm thinking Sunday is going to be my better day. Don't know if that works for you?

Herb, you're in luck. I live in Rancho Cordova. hahahahaha. Hit me up to see if I'm home when you're available.Lunch time? My lunch hour is flexible. I work near Hazel Ave and Hwy 50.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I have morning and lunch time classes at CSUS. Best day for those hours would be Mondays and Wednesday. We can meet at Sac State if you and James can't meet up by then.

[Gideon]

I'm thinking Sunday is going to be my better day. Don't know if that works for you?

Yeah, that works

[Herbicidal]

I have morning and lunch time classes at CSUS. Best day for those hours would be Mondays and Wednesday. We can meet at Sac State if you and James can't meet up by then.Thanks but Sac State is a little out of the way for me.

Yeah, that worksCool. Do you want to meet and grab some lunch somewhere? How about checking in with a PM sometime Saturday afternoon/evening and see if Sunday is still clear?

[Gideon]

Cool. Do you want to meet and grab some lunch somewhere? How about checking in with a PM sometime Saturday afternoon/evening and see if Sunday is still clear?

Yeah, we can do something like that, sounds good to me. Just shoot me a PM on Saturday and we can set a time.

[Herbicidal]

Yeah, we can do something like that, sounds good to me. Just shoot me a PM on Saturday and we can set a time.

Will do! Kaotic - are you available to come up to Roseville on Sunday for lunch with us? Looks like it will be the best day (weather-wise) of the weekend.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I'll give you a call. I think I will be back in Sac on Sunday (I go back to the Bay on Fridays). Where are you guys going to meet?

[Gideon]

I assume he wants to keep it close, so Roseville, around Blue Oaks Blvd probably.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

PM me a restaurant location. hehehe, I need an address to plug into the GPS. What time are you guys meeting up?

[Herbicidal]

Haven't decided yet...what do you want to eat? Burgers?

Kaotic - I know you know where Sonic is on Pleasant Grove Blvd, noon-ish? How about there? I still need to check with the wife about Sunday, but I should be clear for a couple of hours.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Yeah, that'll work.

[Herbicidal]

I've decided to pull the trigger and get this done. So when we meet on Sunday for lunch, it looks like I'll have the new exhaust! I just spoke to the owner and I'll be at his shop at 8:30am tomorrow when the doors open. :thumbsup: I'll bring my camera this time. :biggrin:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I've decided to pull the trigger and get this done. So when we meet on Sunday for lunch, it looks like I'll have the new exhaust! I just spoke to the owner and I'll be at his shop at 8:30am tomorrow when the doors open. :thumbsup: I'll bring my camera this time. :biggrin:

Sweet! I can't wait to see it.

[1.5]

haha guys go through this thread and look at the people who posted in here lol its the same three, Gideon, Kaotic, and herbicidal lol shows who the preeminent sedan modders are lol

[Kaotic Lazagna]

hahahaha. I can think of at least two more Vios heavy modders, AdeJong and Camelll. :wink:

[RHDVIPbB]

Hey now. Trying to get up there with all of the sedan guys. Time is just not on my side.

[Gideon]

haha guys go through this thread and look at the people who posted in here lol its the same three, Gideon, Kaotic, and herbicidal lol shows who the preeminent sedan modders are lol

Sedan? Ewwwww. :biggrin:

Anyways, can't wait to see it! I'll be outnumbered by sedans, I think the first time in YW meet history! :laugh:

[Herbicidal]

Sedan? Ewwwww. :biggrin:

Anyways, can't wait to see it! I'll be outnumbered by sedans, I think the first time in YW meet history! :laugh:Ahh, you hatchies, just make sure you check the air in your tires before you leave the 'meet'. Haha! :tongue:

Anyway, looking forward to getting the new system tomorrow and hooking up with you guys on Sunday. :thumbsup: Will this be the smallest meet yet? :iono:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Hey now. Trying to get up there with all of the sedan guys. Time is just not on my side.

hahaha, at least you auto-x yours. :tongue:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Ahh, you hatchies, just make sure you check the air in your tires before you leave the 'meet'. Haha! :tongue:

Anyway, looking forward to getting the new system tomorrow and hooking up with you guys on Sunday. :thumbsup: Will this be the smallest meet yet? :iono:

hahaha, actually, the smallest meet goes to me and yrsdrgn. Only the two of us showed, and I drove almost two hours for that meet, one way!

[Herbicidal]

Alright, the new system is installed and it sounds SWEET!!! The muffler shop did an awesome job and even painted the all the new stuff (except the tips) black using Duplicolor's ceramic paint. Once Bill was done with all the welds he then fired up the car and used a stethiscope to listen at all his welds for any leaks. He found one and fixed it. I took some pics but haven't had time to upload them yet. I'm very, very happy with this setup!

Kaotic and Gideon - OK, so it won't be the smallest meet ever, but that's fine. How about meeting up at the Sonic in Roseville there on Pleasant Grove at noon? Hopefully that time works for both of you. We can grab a bite to eat and check out the Yari' and maybe grab a couple of pics too. :biggrin: Looking forward to meeting you guys in person for the first time. :thumbsup: By the way, my car is dirty from all the rain and I'm not going to wash it before we meet. I'll do the cleanup work in time for the meet on the 14th. Hopefully it won't rain. :rolleyes:

[Gideon]

Sonic at noon, see ya then. :biggrin:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

See you guys in 11 hours. hahaha.

[Gideon]

Was nice meeting up with you guys! Good to see you again Laz and it was nice to finally meet up with you Herb. Took long enough considering we live in the same city. :laugh:

A couple quick and dirtys for now:

http://imgur.com/KmYan.jpg

http://imgur.com/9b0Ar.jpg

http://imgur.com/NMOzJ.jpg

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Nice pics, James.


Great meeting you, Herb. You got a great sounding and looking exhaust system. Had fun at this mini-meet. :smile:. Took me a little longer to get home, there was traffic right when I got onto 80.



Pics I took:
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/YarisKaos/02-28-10%20Mini%20Meet/HDR1.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/YarisKaos/02-28-10%20Mini%20Meet/HDR2.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/YarisKaos/02-28-10%20Mini%20Meet/HDR3.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/YarisKaos/02-28-10%20Mini%20Meet/HerbHDR.jpg

[1.5]

beautiful sedans

[Herbicidal]

Thanks 1.5!

Nice to meet you guys too! Great looking cars and an amazing number of mods on each car that totally personalizes them to the owner. Very cool. :thumbup:

Also thanks for posting up those pics so quickly since I failed to bring my camera. They look great considering how dirty our cars are. At least you are far enough away you can't see the dirt too clearly. :rolleyes: Thanks too for the compliment on the exhaust, I'm very happy with how it turned out and the attention to detail by Bill and Mark at All Muffler Services, Inc. As it turned out, they cut out the factory resonator right behind the 2nd cat and replaced it with an Imco muffler (part number 625106) and then used an Imco resonator (part number 611222) after the axle and before exiting out to the dual, rectangular exhaust tip that the shop created from scratch. The mufflers and resonator are both quite small in diameter and tubular in design. This allowed them to tuck everything up nice and high underneath. I would highly recommend this shop to anyone that needs exhaust work done. :thumbsup:

[rningonfumes]

Sweet!... Another sedan with center exhaust!!

LOL..and I think they all happen to be Flint Mica!

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Sweet!... Another sedan with center exhaust!!

LOL..and I think they all happen to be Flint Mica!

I thought yours wasn't flint mica? lol.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

beautiful sedans

Thanks 1.5 :thumbsup:

[rningonfumes]

Flint mica, my friend, flint mica!