new turbo set-up.

[Blown_xa]

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Equal length tubular manifold, 3" down-pipe and exhaust all V-band, Turbonetics t3/t4 .60 ar 63 hot side rated at 430 to crank flow capability. Tial 38mm wastegate.

[lilredrocket]

Looks great!!!

[cali yaris]

yeah that's pretty neat with it all on top like that. :clap:

tuning? dyno? new results?

[Nexus1155]

nice, simple, effective, with a front mount that doesn't have wacky routed piping to boot....... i like it

[Blown_xa]

yeah that's pretty neat with it all on top like that. :clap:

tuning? dyno? new results?

With the tuning Im still using the emanage blue, which is now streched beyond it's capabilities. It runs 10.0 afr entering boost and there is no way to pull back injector duty cycle with it. But the tune is fine in boost and driving around. Haltec Sprint 500 is the next step there.

I ran out of fueling @ 230whp on our dyno (dyno dynamics) . Maxed out 625cc injectors with stock fuel system. Next step there is a return set-up.

Our dyno is not good for bragging rights, as it reads 8-12% lower than dyno jets and 15-18% lower than dyno packs. Just for comparison, a stock Evo 8-10 puts down 225whp on our dyno, and my car stock on our dyno is 86whp.

But what I can say is that Im confident it is a 12 second car and will be going to the dragstrip in the next couple of weeks to post up results.

[cali yaris]

^ awesome! wish we could show up together, that would be badass

[PETERPOOP]

jealous..

[yaris-me]

Nice!:thumbsup:

[Blown_xa]

^ awesome! wish we could show up together, that would be badass

heck yea, too bad you are like 3000 miles away

[hondakiller99]

uummm WTF!!! damn bro slick egg and that is crazy numbers there, what did you do to the internals to handle that turbo? cuz i have a feeling they are no were close to stock lol, if im not mistaken the stock scion 1nz only holds about 8psi which is good for around 170, correct?

[cali yaris]

What dyno reads 18% lower than a DynoPack?

[Parmas]

Nice setup you got there Blown xa although I can imagine what a pain in the ass to service the engine plugs etc with that turbo on there.

Please share some details on your engine mods . . . :smile:

[PETERPOOP]

What dyno reads 18% lower than a DynoPack?

yah, i thought the dynapack was the worst one...

[Blown_xa]

Spark plugs are not bad because I just have to undo 2 v-band clamps.
Yes the motor is built, has been for about 8000 miles now. I was never able to keep a motor together at anything above 150whp. As far as dynos, Im not making claims it is just general knowledge that Dyno-packs read higher. Most popular dynos are dyno jets, ours is a dyno-dynamics.

[Kimmy]

nice!!!!

[PETERPOOP]

As far as dynos, Im not making claims it is just general knowledge that Dyno-packs read higher. Most popular dynos are dyno jets, ours is a dyno-dynamics.

If you are referring to a dynapack ( not dynopack ), those usually read LOWER than most dynos. The dynojet reads higher than most. However, obviously, weather and how it is calibrated makes a difference too.

[Blown_xa]

Thank you for the spelling correction, as far as what you posted it is incorrect. I will go ahead and hop on a dynapack when I get a chance, and post sheets from Dynodynamics also. My boss once took his WRX he had (217 on our dyno) to a local dynapack and it put down 240whp. When I had my Blitz supercharger back in the day, I only put down 116whp on our dyno... it put down 138whp on a dynapack at a car show.

Dyno numbers are not a good way to compare set-ups unless everyone is at the same dyno. Even the same type of dynos, some shops use a correction factor.

The best test is mph trap in the 1/4. That does not lie.

[PETERPOOP]

Well i did a dyno on a dynapack and a dynojet also, and the numbers on the dynapack were much less. Maybe your experiences were different, but if you look online and other people's experiences, the majority is that the dynapack reads much lower than most dynos. Just do a little search... I know i'm not crazy! ;)

[toyo]

those are some big ass injectors!

nice setup, looks very clean!:w00t:

[Blown_xa]

Well i did a dyno on a dynapack and a dynojet also, and the numbers on the dynapack were much less. Maybe your experiences were different, but if you look online and other people's experiences, the majority is that the dynapack reads much lower than most dynos. Just do a little search... I know i'm not crazy! ;)

Yes everyones dyno experiences may differ that is no suprise. I do not need to research because I have seen enough to know that Dyno dynamics are a heartbreak dyno for sure. Its just more fun when we bring a 330whp time attack car and pass the same kind of car claiming 450whp (event last year). That stirs things up, and makes people realize that dyno #'s dont win races.

As far as your numbers, the Blitz supercharger platformis not a good way to compare dynos. That set-up is very inconsistant and is the main reason I sold it years ago. A 4pk belt pushing a roots type suprcharger is a bad design. More times than not the belts slips and boost drops before rev limiter. Depending on temperature the belt tension changes and has to be constantly monitored. If it is too loose it slips and you loose power, if it is too tight it binds and you loose power. I finally found a sticky belt and I started shearing crank pully pins. At the dragstrip I had to spray VHT on the belt to ensure full boost. The set-up is fine for street use but I was always fighting to keep consistent power at the dragstrip especially since I mostly bracket raced.

No need suggesting for me to do research, that is my job. A dyno sits 20 feet from me every day. I race, go meets, been to many other dynos and performance shops. I have a pretty good idea on what dynos read what.

On another note, I was able to place 3rd in Mod FWD in this past weekends Redline Time Attack. My friend and racing buddy Ken Fox placed 2nd in his 332whp tC running our turbo kit and fuel system (stock motor).

My car did amazing, only issue was hitting speed cut early down the main strait. That killed my time, I would have been easily at 140mph before braking zone.

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[Blown_xa]

those are some big ass injectors!

nice setup, looks very clean!:w00t:
Thanks man! Yes the injectors are huge but still I need to upgrade the fuel system to get their full potential.

[Yoda]

that girl is hot....

[PETERPOOP]

just take 2 minutes to research it online. you will see the dynapack reads lower than most all dynos.... promise :)

[Blown_xa]

I just had a chance to check out comparison as you requested. I got mixed results. Seems like the s2000 guys confirmed the dynapack reads higher than dyno-jet, along with Subie guys. Some people say the opposite. I would say it is inconclusive.

Now if you take a bit of time as I did for you my friend, you will see why I mentioned other dynos. Dyno dynamics is the true heartbreak dyno.

I should not have even mentioned dynos because everyone has their set ways. But like I say, the dragstrip does not lie. Try it for yourself man. When I was at 133whp I was able to run a 14.7 @ 91mph. A Yaris being a bit lighter should have no problems running 14's with nothing but a Blitz charger right? Somehow I don't see that happening. 116whp with my Blitz charger got me a 15 flat once or twice.

Im hitting up the strip this friday, stay tuned! If I can put the power down decent, 12 second passes should be within reach!!

[PETERPOOP]

Hey,

Thanks for looking into it. You are right, people will always have different answers for that. Anywho, I wish I could take it to the drag strip, but Oahu was an IDIOT and closed down our drag strip. Yah, I have no idea what to say about your comparison of a yaris that was stripped down with a blitz and it'd be able to run a 14 flat, no clue! I put down 140whp on a dynojet, so maybe i'd be able to do it? But I doubt i have the driving skill to achieve it.

That stuff you are saying about the blitz kit earlier with the belt problems is kinda discouraging. I haven't noticed any belt slipping yet? But I don't autocross or drag the yaris. However, I am getting the kit tuned with a greddy emanage ultimate this thursday, and am curious to see what kind of numbers they can squeeze out. Hopefully I don't run into those problems.....

[hondakiller99]

i want your xa... wait hahaha i remember tis car!!!! 2007 Scion VIP at englishtown, when the 1/8th mile sponserd event, was that you that raced the 2 tone red xa? cuz if that was i ran against you!!!! haha lol

[Blown_xa]

i want your xa... wait hahaha i remember tis car!!!! 2007 Scion VIP at englishtown, when the 1/8th mile sponserd event, was that you that raced the 2 tone red xa? cuz if that was i ran against you!!!! haha lol

I was there yep. I hope they do those again that was fun.

[Blown_xa]

Hey,

Thanks for looking into it. You are right, people will always have different answers for that. Anywho, I wish I could take it to the drag strip, but Oahu was an IDIOT and closed down our drag strip. Yah, I have no idea what to say about your comparison of a yaris that was stripped down with a blitz and it'd be able to run a 14 flat, no clue! I put down 140whp on a dynojet, so maybe i'd be able to do it? But I doubt i have the driving skill to achieve it.

That stuff you are saying about the blitz kit earlier with the belt problems is kinda discouraging. I haven't noticed any belt slipping yet? But I don't autocross or drag the yaris. However, I am getting the kit tuned with a greddy emanage ultimate this thursday, and am curious to see what kind of numbers they can squeeze out. Hopefully I don't run into those problems.....

just keep an eye on the boost gauge make sure it holds boost till redline. Also the Bando belt the kit came with was strong but not sticky. If you can get the correct length Gates belt that would be best. Also, that belt length is RARE to fing in a 4pk width. So I got the correct lenght in a 6pk width and cut 2 ribs off with a utility knife, I got so good at it the belt after cut to a 4pk was like new out of the box.

Gosh no dragstrip? is there a roadcoarse or auto-x? I'd pull my hair out!

[PETERPOOP]

just keep an eye on the boost gauge make sure it holds boost till redline. Also the Bando belt the kit came with was strong but not sticky. If you can get the correct length Gates belt that would be best. Also, that belt length is RARE to fing in a 4pk width. So I got the correct lenght in a 6pk width and cut 2 ribs off with a utility knife, I got so good at it the belt after cut to a 4pk was like new out of the box.

Gosh no dragstrip? is there a roadcoarse or auto-x? I'd pull my hair out!

Hey,

Yah I didn't use the belt that came with the kit. I ended up doing exactly what you did (cut the 6pk belt into 4pk). I will keep an eye out on the boost gauge.

Yah man, no drag strip. It is pretty dumb, especially considering there are so many wannabe street racers around here. However, there IS an autocross thing they setup at our local stadium's parking lot. Other than that, no race course or anything! Lame.

[The Spectacle]

Hub dyno's (Dynapacks) read higher than roller dyno's (Mustang, DynoJet, DynoDynamics,Land & Sea, etc) by design. There's less rotating mass since the wheels are removed. But every one of those dyno's have software in different locations so they will all read different, EVERY SINGLE ONE. DynoJets are the standard because as someone mentioned, they are the most popular and widespread. Reading low or high means nothing in the long run since a dyno is only meant to measure progress to a delta, not a absolute ceiling.

Also as previously mentioned, trap speed's don't lie and are the most accurate method of comparing power.

And for the record, Greddy Emanage Ultimate sucks ass. I've seen and used the software and I would want nothing to do with it. It looks like something programmed on an Atari. And with it being a piggyback, it is very limited in what it can do - hardly "Ultimate". Not a knock on anyone using it, just my personal opinion.