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[cali yaris]

Hey everyone,

we have an opportunity to produce our own springs.

I would like you to post up your optimum drop and front/rear spring rate, so I can get a feel for what choices to make.

I can't do more than one at this time, so I want to be careful to please as many customers as possible.

your thoughts?

[RHDVIPbB]

hmm...where to begin. I would prefer something slightly stiffer than what TRD offers. A 2" drop would be ideal.

[cali yaris]

^ that is basically the AOE TigerTecs we have now. Almost a 2" drop

[RHDVIPbB]

^ that is basically the AOE TigerTecs we have now. Almost a 2" drop

but how much stiffer are they?

[coffiend]

Real low and real stiff is my vote :)

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Tanabe DF210-like drop but with 99k spring rate.

[SilverBack]

Make 'em like the Autocross-tested Progress I'm running:

-Front drop: 1.7" --- Rear drop: 1.8"
-Front rate: 110 lbs/in --- Rear rate: 130 lbs/in (not sure how to measure this in K)

It's stiff as hell, corners on a dime, zero rubbing, and zero bottoming-out :thumbup:

[AdeJong 03]

if i were to make my own spring, id do something that no one else has

since you basically sell springs for every kind of drop from 1.2 to 1.9 inches, id probably offer a SUPER LOW spring- like a 2.2-2.5 inch drop all around with an appropriately stiff spring rate.

if i had to choose, it would be like a 7k f 5k r rate.

of course this is just me but when there are so many options out there, why not capture a section of the market that no one else touches? i know a lot of people want to go that low but dont want to buy coilovers

the biggest thing im concerned about when i look at springs is making sure the rear doesnt drop lower than the front.

[Betrivent]

Tanabe DF210-like drop but with 99k spring rate.

This except more physically possible

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I like how the DFs sit, just wish they were stiffer.

[redn3ck]

somethin good fer the sedans!! id like somethin in the 2.5f/2.25r and say 6kf/4kr? low and stiff please!! and a good price too!

im on df210s now and its too soft and not low enough fer me

[coffiend]

2 1/4" to 2.5" would be GREAT. getting tired of not being low enough on the s. Techs and cannot afford coilovers.

Maybe start a poll to keep it organized?

1.5 - 1.75
1.75 - 2
2 - 2.5


.... Thn go from there after the votes come in. Just a thought :)

[sqcomp]

I'm in the market right now...

I was going to pick up some TRD springs off another owner. I'm not looking for something that will destroy my OEM suspension. I would like something close to the TRD offering, yet wouldn't affect everything else negatively. A little more of a drop is cool if I don't have to modify my fenders.

What's the time frame on this?

[BrazdonW]

I would RE-buy springs if they dropped lower than my tein's
2.0 - 2.5 drop all around and i am FOR SURE in lol

[LA Yaris]

why not a 3" ?

[AdeJong 03]

it looks like a lot of people who want to go low are already on the stechs and want to go lower.



im totally in for something that drops 2.2-2.5 inches all around.

preferably a little lower in the front so my suspension wont be uneven with cargo or passengers in the rear

[LA Yaris]

I like having my 3" dropped plus with the body kit on it seems even lowerd. it just suck to go up drive ways

[yarrr]

I like having my 3" dropped plus with the body kit on it seems even lowerd. it just suck to go up drive ways

The pics in your garage don't look like 3" - what are TRD 3" springs anyways.

[LA Yaris]

No TRD There Magnum Racing springs.

[bronzebullet232]

it looks like a lot of people who want to go low are already on the stechs and want to go lower.



im totally in for something that drops 2.2-2.5 inches all around.

preferably a little lower in the front so my suspension wont be uneven with cargo or passengers in the rear

I agree. I wish my DF210s were another 1/2 inch to and inch lower.

[darthbauer]

I want stiffer stock height springs. Screw low, it's all about ground clearance.

[BrazdonW]

Low and slow is what its all about ;)

[POORSHA]

I say lets go for value. Low price 1.5 inch all around. It would be great if newbies could get springs for short money and not have to change their shocks or bottom out in the winter

[cruz-gsr]

ill go with poorsha's idea

[AdeJong 03]

I say lets go for value. Low price 1.5 inch all around. It would be great if newbies could get springs for short money and not have to change their shocks or bottom out in the winter

but there are like 3 other springs out there that do that already for cheap.

what would be the point?

[POORSHA]

When I say short money I am thinking the magic # $99.99 shipped

[laer899]

+1 for extremely affordable and stiff

[Mister Z]

I would be down for a 2.5 inch drop and 5kg/4kg spring rates

[PHXDEMON]

Tanabe DF210-like drop but with 99k spring rate.

This. DF 210s but twice as firm please. Maybe slightly less of a drop.

[why?]

what's with all the softer in the rear junk? ewww, it should be at least as firm all around, if not stiffer in the rear. maybe 6 or 7k all around?

[cali yaris]

^ that's for drivers who can handle oversteer. It's a very important reason why most companies don't do that.

Most customers want to lower their cars for stance and as a secondary effect, handling. Not the other way 'round. That's just a fact of the marketplace.

These are ALL good ideas, everyone. There is no right or wrong to it. Success on a first try out would mean more choices in the future.

So I have to consider all possible segments before choosing one to commit to.

Thank you all :bow:

[detroiter]

I do agree that their probably would be a decent amount of customers who would love a spring that is stock height, yet considerably stiffer. It's like what was once said long ago though...you can't please all the people all of the time. A MI brand spring would be really cool though for sure

[coffiend]

^ eh, idk about that. Stock height on a Yaris sits like an AMC Eagle.

i would swap out the S. Techs a buy new MI springs if they were lower and real stiff.

[detroiter]

But the S techs are already pretty darn low, are they not? And I was just going by what seems that their's alot of people who don't want to be lower due to crummy roads or winters, yet they would like to get rid of the horrendous body roll that exists.

[AdeJong 03]

But the S techs are already pretty darn low, are they not? And I was just going by what seems that their's alot of people who don't want to be lower due to crummy roads or winters, yet they would like to get rid of the horrendous body roll that exists.

not low enough!

[detroiter]

I guess you can never get too low huh!

[1NZYaris1]

^ that's for drivers who can handle oversteer. It's a very important reason why most companies don't do that.

Most customers want to lower their cars for stance and as a secondary effect, handling. Not the other way 'round. That's just a fact of the marketplace.

These are ALL good ideas, everyone. There is no right or wrong to it. Success on a first try out would mean more choices in the future.

So I have to consider all possible segments before choosing one to commit to.

Thank you all :bow:

i Think you should be commited , to a big RUBBER ROOM , :biggrin:
just joking Garm , dude you are to be commended , as this is one real
real hard task , so many options to work out .:drinking:
:respekt:

[coffiend]

But the S techs are already pretty darn low, are they not? And I was just going by what seems that their's alot of people who don't want to be lower due to crummy roads or winters, yet they would like to get rid of the horrendous body roll that exists.

I get your logic, and it makes enough sense, I just dont see the point of it.

I live in Omaha, NE and we have HORRID roads, the city has had to sub contract several construction crews to handle our pot hole problem.

that being said, I didnt have any problems on my S. Techs last winter. I got stuck one time, but it was because of my own stupidity and would have got stuck on stock height anyways.

I kind of think that a lot of people on YW are overly-cautious about dropping their car, those people already have a ton of options as far as springs go, those of us who want to go lower and cant afford coilovers are kind of screwed, unless they are brave enough to cut a spring (which I am not, but desperately want to at the same time)

so.... LOW LOW LOW AND STIFF PLEASE :thumbsup:

[eht13]

And I was just going by what seems that their's alot of people who don't want to be lower due to crummy roads or winters, yet they would like to get rid of the horrendous body roll that exists.

It seems like a rear sway bar should work in that case...

[coffiend]

^ Also true.

[Buddy Fan]

^ that's for drivers who can handle oversteer. It's a very important reason why most companies don't do that.

Most customers want to lower their cars for stance and as a secondary effect, handling. Not the other way 'round. That's just a fact of the marketplace.

These are ALL good ideas, everyone. There is no right or wrong to it. Success on a first try out would mean more choices in the future.

So I have to consider all possible segments before choosing one to commit to.

Thank you all :bow:

As an old fart, I'm in that boat! Coming from a minivan I think the Yaris handles fine, but I'd love a nice 2" drop without sacrificing ride quality. If that's already out there, someone please let me know.

[cali yaris]

I'd love a nice 2" drop without sacrificing ride quality.

Tanabe DF210
Tein S-Tech

Both will do that for you.

[33OH]

I think I'm with 75% of the people on here when I say lower and stiff.

[minnyar]

1.5" all around, stiffer than TRD. I'd buy them.

[Moses]

1.75" drop, 8k front , 6k rear. that way we can keep the oem shocks and still get a stiffer ride.

Moses
Urban Pacifica

[detroiter]

6k front, 8k rear... :D

[minnyar]

Do we have a verdict?

[Jeemee]

Anything lower and stiffer than the DF's and I'll gladly switch them out.

My specific vote would be 3" drop and 5k front and 6k rear spring rates or higher!

[BrazdonW]

+1

[Mister Z]

any update?

[RacerFreakXXX]

I'm more in favor of a 2.5" drop with a 6k front and 5k rear or 3" drop with 7k front and 6k rear. I'd rather have stiffer springs in front for track use and run the 23mm rear sway bar. When is this happening? I've been holding off on buying anything till we have a verdict.

[33OH]

Anything lower and stiffer than the DF's and I'll gladly switch them out.


+1

[jmx]

Yeah I want at least a 4 inch drop and the stiffer the better. I really hate how there are no companies that go lower than 2 inches. I would wanna slam mine to the ground if there was a product out there that could do it w.o having to go custom bags and stuff.

[minnyar]

4"! They must have some nice roads in SFO!

[mshekleton]

A lot of you all want an aggressive drop. Remember that unless the spring rate is very high, you're going to start rubbing when you whip it around the turns. Also, wider tires can exacerbate the problem. I would suggest a 1.5" drop with a 5kg (280lb/in) front and 6kg (336lb/in) rear.

[coffiend]

we (for the most part) are well aware that they would have to be very stiff to be very low.

and we (again for the most part) are all willing to bear with the non-stock feeling ride as long as it drops us nice and low.

[RacerFreakXXX]

Why do you guys want such stiff springs in the rear? If you are tracking the car you will want stiffer springs in the front. Also you can just buy a stiffer rear sway bar unless you are looking to have as much oversteer as possible.

[cali yaris]

If you are tracking the car you will want stiffer springs in the front.

no. That will make the car plow straight forward in the turns. Trust me, it's not what you want, I've tried about 5 spring combinations at the track so far, and I have the car balanced really well now.

[RacerFreakXXX]

what are you running for setup and stiffness?

[cali yaris]

about a 2" drop, upgraded shocks/struts, rear AND front sway bars, and 8k front / 10k rear springs.

[RacerFreakXXX]

So make springs simular to that, 2"-2.5" drop 5-8k front 6-10k rear. If you know that's what works. We really need performance springs, not springs that make our car look cool. Yes you could get coilovers, but you have to worry about corossion in the winter for some of us.

[New2tuning]

So make springs similar to that, 2"-2.5" drop 5-8k front 6-10k rear. If you know that's what works. We really need performance springs, not springs that make our car look cool. Yes you could get coil overs, but you have to worry about corrosion in the winter for some of us.

I agree. Wisconsin winters play havoc on cars with all of the salt they dump on the roads. Most of the winter, the roads a literally white the dump so much on them. I would love to see a high performance spring that was engineered to perform, not look purdy. I'm new to the Yaris tuner world so maybe they already have some but i have not seen any.