Odd mileage....

[shinlee]

I've owned my yaris for over 3 years now, and have always consistently gotten between 32-36mpg city mileage, but tonight I went to fill up and went to check my mileage (per fill up ritual, keeps me knowing why I own a yaris, lol) and I got 42.92 mpg! WTH?
Same drive to work and back, and now since it's starting to get a little bit warmer, I even used the AC the last 2 days. Car has 44K miles on it, well beyond the fable'd "break in" period, so the only thing I can think of that I've done recently is throwing in a bottle of Lucas fuel injector cleaner on a full tank of premium instead of my normal regular.

It's been about 15k miles since the last bottle went in, and I don't remember this result, but has anyone else experienced such a drastic mileage jump? 7mpg's is a hell of a lot from one tank to the next on the same exact drive.

[jambo101]

On a full tank of gas outside air temperature could be a factor in your increased MPG.
As for running super Deluxe gold hightest premium gas and adding a bottle of fuel injector cleaner every tank you are negating some of the economy the car was intended to produce..

[swidd]

Did the gas station change the additives?

[krusty]

You will always get increased mileage from running premium fuel in your car even if it's not a performance car, better fuel more complete combustion = better fuel economy

[nemelek]

I would try an experment and put premium in on the next fill. See if the results are duplicated. Premium doesn't help mine.

[BailOut]

You will always get increased mileage from running premium fuel in your car even if it's not a performance car, better fuel more complete combustion = better fuel economy
That is incorrect. There is no higher caloric content in higher octane fuel. In fact, octane is the measurement of a substance's heat resistance rather than one of its thoroughness of burning.

Higher octane can aid in the prevention of predetonation but this is moot for most folks as you have to push the Yaris quite hard to cause that much of a timing issue. The OP's average MPG shows that they are definitely more of the easy driving type.

[krusty]

I'm just going from personal experience as i know for a fact that we get shit fuel up her in Canada comparatively to what you guys get in the states. It also depends on what station you buy your fuels from as station to station the fuels are not the same and that can directly effect your mileage

[jambo101]

I'm just going from personal experience as i know for a fact that we get shit fuel up her in Canada comparatively to what you guys get in the states. It also depends on what station you buy your fuels from as station to station the fuels are not the same and that can directly effect your mileage

Calculating gas usage with pencil and paper and using a Scan gauge i found no difference in MPG for my 08 sedan when on a recent trip to Florida i tried a couple of tankfuls of higher octane gas, If you feel you are getting increased MPG by using hightest then by all means feed those gas companies more of your money.
Must be quite a dilemma trying to figure out which gas stations are going to serve good gas and which ones are going to give crappy gas..

[shinlee]

I feel there is some confusion about my experience.

"As for running super Deluxe gold hightest premium gas and adding a bottle of fuel injector cleaner every tank you are negating some of the economy the car was intended to produce.."
I'd never put a $5 bottle of fuel additive into every tank. That basically add's $.50 to each gallon of gas I would use then, lol.

My last tank netted almost 43mpg on 87 octane. The tank before that one, I put in 93 octane with Lucas fuel injector cleaner, the first bottle I've used in 15k miles. THAT tank netted 37mpg.

I on average get 32-36mpg. My temps in San Antonio have risen, but I wouldn't think enough for a 7mpg swing in a tank.

I don't aim for conservative driving, just hard to drive hard when the drive to work is only 4 miles, lol. I have a 5sp, and if people remember pre hack, I drive the yaris with some fat white stripes on a blazing blue body :)

[b_hickman11]

I'm just going from personal experience as i know for a fact that we get shit fuel up her in Canada comparatively to what you guys get in the states. It also depends on what station you buy your fuels from as station to station the fuels are not the same and that can directly effect your mileage

Around here, fuel from station to station is the same exact fuel, in most cases. Tanker drops a load off at the Shell station and then goes across the street and drops a load off at the Exxon station.

[krusty]

yes same here but whats in the tank in the ground is more of a concern to me as old gas stations means old tanks and the chances of bad fuel i.e. water leakage or other substances.

[b_hickman11]

yes same here but whats in the tank in the ground is more of a concern to me as old gas stations means old tanks and the chances of bad fuel i.e. water leakage or other substances.

Most "old" gas stations around here had to shut down a few years ago because the gov't came out with new tank standards. The old stations couldn't afford the new tanks so they shut down or built a brand new station.

[krusty]

same with up here but we have still found gas stations with newer tank that still have contamination problems from time to time

[beanders]

41-42 mpg is almost standard for me. I have a 5 speed and use premium BP fuel. During the winter I hit 36 once or twice.

[b_hickman11]

same with up here but we have still found gas stations with newer tank that still have contamination problems from time to time

I would move then....

[krusty]

luckily i have never had this happen to me in years but i have had several customers that have run into this problem.

[shinlee]

41-42 mpg is almost standard for me. I have a 5 speed and use premium BP fuel. During the winter I hit 36 once or twice.

well, I do drive spiritedly :)

Anyways, I figured out why my mileage jumped up 7mpg over 1 tank :biggrin:

The damn pump shut off before I was all the way full. That's the first time that's happened to me. Today, after only 34miles on the new tank, I dropped my first bar, which never happens till around 85-90miles into the tank.

I'll average these 2 tanks together, then I'll get my true mpg over the last 2, which I'm sure will probably be in the 36mpg range again, lol.

[krusty]

lol it happens to the best of us well maybe not

[Yaris Hilton]

I was going to suggest that it was likely a difference in the filling of the tank.

[nemelek]

well, I do drive spiritedly :)

Anyways, I figured out why my mileage jumped up 7mpg over 1 tank :biggrin:

The damn pump shut off before I was all the way full. That's the first time that's happened to me. Today, after only 34miles on the new tank, I dropped my first bar, which never happens till around 85-90miles into the tank.

I'll average these 2 tanks together, then I'll get my true mpg over the last 2, which I'm sure will probably be in the 36mpg range again, lol.

The pump shutting off 1/2 gallon early would account for 7-8 mpg.

[shinlee]

I would think more along 1.5 gallons early. it was at 7.5 and normally at 2 bars I put in about 9 gallons

[Little Blue]

I buy my gas from a local family owned gas station. They have 10% ethenol in the 87 octane. With it I get 37.2 mpg. Their 93 octane has no ethenol in it and I get 42.7 mpg with it, however it does not perform as well as with the 87 octane. I,m also running the goodyear gas milage tires and they gave me 2.5 mpg better gas milage then the factory bridgestones.

[QuantumIguana]

I haven't had my 08 Yaris Sedan long, I've only filled it up twice. The first time I couldn't know how full the tank had been to start with, so I couldn't judge mileage until the second fill up. I calculated 32 mpg. Most of that was city streets, although part of my commute is on the freeway. But that freeway part is bumper-to-bumper for a long ways. It's bad, but it's generally better than the alternative routes.

Still, I ought to consider taking an alternative route more often to see if I get better gas mileage. It generally takes longer on the alternative routes, but I spend less time sitting still.

[dlorde]

Just finished the first 1000 miles in my Yaris TR 1.33 6-speed manual Eco drive, and I'm on 50.1 mpg just scooting around town & driving up & down the motorway. As I'm prone to going 75-85 on the M-way, and don't like dawdling in town, I'd guess a hypermiler could easily get 55-60 mpg or more - so why are everyone's figures so poor?

[DevilGirl]

Just finished the first 1000 miles in my Yaris TR 1.33 6-speed manual Eco drive, and I'm on 50.1 mpg just scooting around town & driving up & down the motorway. As I'm prone to going 75-85 on the M-way, and don't like dawdling in town, I'd guess a hypermiler could easily get 55-60 mpg or more - so why are everyone's figures so poor?

Could be a guess, but don't shoot me if I'm wrong.

I think part of the difference is the use of imperial gallons (UK) vs gallons (US). Different units of measure will net different results.

Also, in the US, we only have the 1.5L, no other option. Personally I just started getting better than 38mpg. I had 1 tank at 41.7 mpg, and the following at 38.2. The second of those two tanks saw a drive where she stretched her legs in order to get me to my train on time (darn running late)...

And for my own knowledge, what is the "Eco drive" you mention?

[shinlee]

update:

refilled and got 27ish mpg lol, so yeah, underfilled on my last tank :) added up the total mileage/gas over the last 2 though, and got 36.2mpg, right where it normally is :)


and also just got back from a trip, made 42.5mpg doing 70mph whole way :)

[auxmike]

My last tank was Sunoco Ultra. Never again, car ran like it was pulling a trailer or something.
I'll stick to 87 from now on....:thumbup:

[dlorde]

I think part of the difference is the use of imperial gallons (UK) vs gallons (US). Different units of measure will net different results.

Of course, good thinking - that makes it a more realistic 41.6 mpg in US gallons.

And for my own knowledge, what is the "Eco drive" you mention?
It's what they call the start/stop feature of Toyota 'Optimal Drive'. Engine cuts out when in neutral with clutch in. Read a report of an old lady complaining that her Yaris kept stalling at traffic lights :rolleyes: