autox tint rules

[zachryboles]

hey guys how dark can your tint be when you enter autoX? I've finally found a good deal on tint but don't know what im allowed to use.

[Tamago]

there are no laws about window tint and autocross.. your front windows have to be down anyway

[zachryboles]

lol its not the fronts i was worried about its the 5% im probibly getting on the back.

[Tamago]

do i need to repeat myself? ;)

[Jason@SportsCar]

.. your front windows have to be down anyway

There is no such rule in the Solo rule book.

[Loren]

The only relevant SCCA Solo II rule about tint as far as I know is that it falls under the "comfort and convenience" rule. It is not prohibited. If it's so dark that you can't see the course, that will present it's own set of problems that you'll have to deal with, such as hitting cones or going off-course.

As for the back window, follow the first rule of Italian driving (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0).

[Altitude]

...and here I thought this was about a new brand of window tint from a company called AutoX. :mad:

[cali yaris]

There is no such rule in the Solo rule book.

Not exactly. There is this rule (unless it was changed for 2010). Since many cars have auto-locks which engage at a low speed, that would require windows OPEN on such cars.

2009 SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS

3 — ENTRY AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE NATIONAL SOLO
RULES

3.5.3 INTERIOR ACCESS: The interior of a closed car must be easily accessible from
the outside (doors unlocked and/or windows open).

[Jason@SportsCar]

Not exactly. There is this rule (unless it was changed for 2010). Since many cars have auto-locks which engage at a low speed, that would require windows OPEN on such cars.

You can manually unlock auto lock doors. But it was a nice try. Keep looking, you will find no passage in the SCCA rule book that requires the window be down.

Additionally, to avoid confusion for people who do not run within your Region (Cal Club) you should refer to the National Solo rules and not your Regions supplement regs when trying to help someone out. Telling someone from NY, FLA, TX, etc what the Cal Club rules are only further confuses the issue. The natl rules are the basis for every Region within the Club.

[Loren]

Likewise, you shouldn't assume that everyone autocrosses with the SCCA or under SCCA rules.

[cali yaris]

So that rule doesn't exist in the national version? My apologies if not, I didn't know I was quoting from regional. Zachary, definitely check the rules for the autocross you intend to race in. Loren is right, SCCA is just one organization of many.

However, regarding the rule I did quote, if the doors automatically lock, you know you're not going to unlock them while driving, so in the event of an emergency, they would be locked UNTIL you unlocked them. I believe that violates the rule I quoted.

And, this whole thing is off topic with regards to tinting. My apologies to the OP, but I still think it's interesting.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Likewise, you shouldn't assume that everyone autocrosses with the SCCA or under SCCA rules.

What, there is another club out there? :laugh: :wink:

[Jason@SportsCar]

So that rule doesn't exist in the national version? My apologies if not, I didn't know I was quoting from regional. Zachary, definitely check the rules for the autocross you intend to race in. Loren is right, SCCA is just one organization of many.

However, regarding the rule I did quote, if the doors automatically lock, you know you're not going to unlock them while driving, so in the event of an emergency, they would be locked UNTIL you unlocked them. I believe that violates the rule I quoted.

And, this whole thing is off topic with regards to tinting. My apologies to the OP, but I still think it's interesting.

No, it does not exist in the Natl rules. And even as a Regional Sup Reg it does not say it is required - having the door unlocked meets the rule, end of debate imo.

In many cars hitting unlock after starting the cars overrides the auto lock system. In some cars, like Fords, it can be completely disabled.

I really doubt that at the 2009 Solo natls the 50+ car SS class would have enjoyed its rain soaked run group with windows down. :wink:

[cali yaris]

I really doubt that at the 2009 Solo natls the 50+ car SS class would have enjoyed its rain soaked run group with windows down.

True!

[Jason@SportsCar]

Here is a fun one:

6.3 VEHICLE/DRIVER SAFETY

E. The driver’s window may not be down more than 1” during course runs unless the vehicle is equipped with a window net and/or the driver is using arm
restraints. The same restriction applies to the passenger window if there is a
passenger.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Did I get you with the RallyX rule? :laugh:

[cali yaris]

window net, I know. Arm restraints? .. sounds funny.

Racing Straight Jacket?

[Jason@SportsCar]

window net, I know. Arm restraints? .. sounds funny.

Racing Straight Jacket?

Typically found in open wheel cars, where there is no window to install a window net. They attach your arms to your harness. You still can move your arms within the "normal" range of motion, they just prevent them from exiting the car in a roll.

You can also have a driving suit made with them built in.

http://www.gforce.com/products/pimages/full/full_4087.jpg

[YarisPR]

window net, I know. Arm restraints? .. sounds funny.

Racing Straight Jacket?

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0708/stephey_mental_0809.jpg

:biggrin:

[cali yaris]

jason, do you wear a hans device?

[Jason@SportsCar]

jason, do you wear a hans device?

Having tried them all on, I choose the Safety Solutions Hybrid Pro for my own use.

http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/pro-series/hybrid-pro.html

http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/storage/HNR.pdf

[ddongbap]

I met the guy who invented the Hans device.

[AND189]

(.)(.) nice

[ozmdd]

You can manually unlock auto lock doors. But it was a nice try.

Jason - this is a totally asinine way to repsond to someone, and explains why so many people on the forum get offended by your posts. Congrats on being successful in racing, but work on your intersonal skills. You represent the SCCA through your magazine affiliation, and I doubt the national office would appreciate you posting this way with your SCCA-affiliate screenname.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Jason - this is a totally asinine way to repsond to someone, and explains why so many people on the forum get offended by your posts. Congrats on being successful in racing, but work on your intersonal skills. You represent the SCCA through your magazine affiliation, and I doubt the national office would appreciate you posting this way with your SCCA-affiliate screenname.

And here I thought the Miata forum was the sensitive one. :laugh: You are entitled to your opinion, and please feel free to put me on your ignore list so you don't get your feelings hurt. :thumbsup: