Did anyone installed apexi SAFC ??

[jimcat]

I have a SAFC 2 but still pending to install
because I can't find the wiring diagram for my NCP91
also failed to get it at the apexi official web.

anyone can help me ??

thank you

[Katana]

You could search for the diagram for the old Yaris TS(Europe).

I am pretty sure you have the same engine!

[jimcat]

You could search for the diagram for the old Yaris TS(Europe).

I am pretty sure you have the same engine!

Argee, i think they are the same engine.
but I found the ECU location, socket and wires are different.
anyway, i will try for it, thanks

[Katana]

The ECU location is in the hood isn't it?

The old one had it in front of the passenger's seat.

[staticorex]

I hate to bring back an old thread, but how did it work out.

I have an safc 2 laying around and thought why not hook it up. I can't find a wiring diagram for mine. But just curious how yours worked out. :)

[Turbo&Auto]

The SAFC comes with a install booklet and ECU pinouts in it. I'm pretty sure there was a 1nzfe pinout.

[staticorex]

It doesn't go past 02.


Edit: Okay, I found the Vitz 1nz-fe. This will be the same for the Yaris? I realize it's the same engine and all but still, It is a different car.

[Turbo&Auto]

You can test the wires. TPS should be 0-5v, and increase in voltage when throttle is applied. 12V is easy to test, and so is ground. Try it :)

[staticorex]

?? I don't know what that means. :) I'm not good with electrical stuff. I prolly shouldn't be doing this.

[Turbo&Auto]

At least you admit it. I recommend taking it somewhere if you cant solder anyway, DO NOT use crimp connectors!!!

[staticorex]

Oh? It came with them.

Anyway, I just took off my ECU, which was a chore in itself, and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I don't know of anyone around here who does that kind of stuff either.

If anyone has any better installation pics than what Apexi gives with the SAFC-II I would greatly appreciate it.

I'm off to see if my car will start or if I broke something.

[Turbo&Auto]

Where are you located?

[staticorex]

South Central PA.

[Turbo&Auto]

Pay me a lil bit and I will do it for you, I'm in the pocono area.

[staticorex]

Really? Hmm. sending pm :)

[Katana]

Any news?

[staticorex]

Yeah. I gave up. It's way too complicated for something that would yield gains too small. Unless I find some really good diy pics I'm done. :(

[Katana]

Τοο bad.I thought that the wiring diagrams were easy to find.

[staticorex]

They were. But have you taken off the ECU? It's crazy. I do bolt on stuff and cosmetic modifications. This electronic stuff is just too above me. I would break something.

[Turbo&Auto]

You dont need to remove the ECU, just tap into the wires coming out of it. But like you said above, and like I told you, its just plain a waste on your car.

[staticorex]

Oh yeah. I guess you could. But still, like you said. :)

[Doc Zaius]

Why would it be a waste? Would more power mods be needed first to realize the potenital from the apexi?

[Turbo&Auto]

No. The car NA isnt going to make ANY real power without a buildup. I/H/E on this car add maybe 15whp, tuning AF alone MAY net another 5. You would need an Emanage and the above mods to make a worthwhile difference IMO.

[Katana]

Thanks for the info guys.I am between the Apexi and the Emanage...I have CAI and a tuned exhaust system and I hope that I will gain some hp...

[Turbo&Auto]

Emanage anyday. Overtime the ECU will override the SAFC and "tune itself" back to its factory ideal settings. Been down this road with my Turbo Matrix. I ran a SAFC for a VERY short time. Got the Emanage and WOAH, HUGE difference. The ECU never overrode my settings like the SAFC did. ALSO, you can tune timing with the emanage. If you have an auto, get the ultimate and you can adjust the tq converter lockup and some other crap.

Hope this helps :)

[Katana]

It was easy setting up the Emanage?The Emanage is same for every car like the Safc or you have to find a special one for the Yaris?

[SmallCarGuy]

Emanage anyday. Overtime the ECU will override the SAFC and "tune itself" back to its factory ideal settings. Been down this road with my Turbo Matrix. I ran a SAFC for a VERY short time. Got the Emanage and WOAH, HUGE difference. The ECU never overrode my settings like the SAFC did. ALSO, you can tune timing with the emanage. If you have an auto, get the ultimate and you can adjust the tq converter lockup and some other crap.

Hope this helps :)

The emanage isn't too tough to set up at all... and TIMING is where it's at for the F/I guys... for N/A, even an emanage is more hassle than it's worth, unless you start on the internals and such. Bolt-Ons+Emanage=blah.


IMHO - The SAFC-II is worthless for Toyotas/Scions... Just like TurboAuto said... it overrides the settings quick, plus CELs are a pain to work around... not a good option with other comparable priced toys out there... only thing it's good for is a nifty little screen that shows your throttle position and RPM and fun stuff like that. I played with it with my tC and quickly just let it be a nice screen.

[Katana]

I see, tnx for the explanations.