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cali yaris
04-27-2010, 06:55 PM
Just got back from the dyno. Car is happy and healthy.

Low boost: 279 whp @ 14 psi
High boost: 357 whp @ 24 psi

All on pump gas with water/meth injection. :thumbsup:

Thank you to BISIMOTO for the great tune!

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/2010/GarmPwrApr10WaterMeth.gif

AlexNet0
04-27-2010, 06:57 PM
357 on pump??

awesome!

when are you tuning again with race gas?

cali yaris
04-27-2010, 07:01 PM
^ no need for race gas. Water/meth injection is my new best friend.

Need to make more changes/upgrades to make even more, but for now I want to race and drive some.

crankyelbow
04-27-2010, 07:25 PM
Very nice :)

WeeYari
04-27-2010, 07:32 PM
Holy Crap!! 3.5x stock power. That's gotta be getting pretty close to a hairy machine to drive.

HTM Yaris
04-27-2010, 07:43 PM
:headbang::bow:

cali yaris
04-27-2010, 07:47 PM
vid clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVtXjKUUPI

cali yaris
04-27-2010, 07:53 PM
water cools down the cylinders (richer mix), methanol increases octane (that's why you don't need race gas with it).

Unless you're going to tune the car, you don't need richer air/fuel. I think the stock Yaris is on the rich side to begin with.

mshekleton
04-27-2010, 09:48 PM
Nice!

yarisugi
04-27-2010, 10:15 PM
Did you have a "before" tune and "after" tune sheet?
Are those the same guys that did the blue Honda Civic Station Wagon?

New2tuning
04-27-2010, 10:36 PM
That is insane....

:headbang::bow::eek::thumbup::drool:

shinlee
04-27-2010, 11:26 PM
wow Garm, just wow

Blown_xa
04-27-2010, 11:31 PM
awesome results. Are you using factory head bolts?

tk-421
04-27-2010, 11:39 PM
MOAAARR! :headbang:

scioncrew
04-28-2010, 01:01 AM
yeah! MORE BOOST!! MORE BOOST!! go for 30 psi. maybe we'll try it at the track ok Garm :)

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 01:02 AM
yarisugi, Yes Bisi has the blue wagon, and the all-motor Insight that does 9.3 @ 150 mph.

the "before" sheet would be my last tune? 303 whp @ 20 psi on race gas.

blown, thanks, I like your project too. those are ARP head studs but they don't make them for our car so the head and the block had to be rethreaded. Maybe we can convince ARP there's a darn market for us?

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 01:03 AM
LOL @ Art -- you're going to kill me! I love it, the guy who built the whole thing egging me on to turn it up MORE. love you man.

scioncrew
04-28-2010, 01:28 AM
sooo dose that mean we're going for 30 psi

yaris-me
04-28-2010, 03:03 AM
Pwr/wt=0.166, SuperYaris!:eek::eyebulge::thumbup:

My Yaris, pwr/wt=0.0004.:frown::cry:

Parmas
04-28-2010, 03:21 AM
WOW ! Nice results there garm...

Re: 30psi... remember that T28 turbo is rated at max 320Hp and you are already beyond. I am really curious how much efficient boost this turbo can effectively push?

Re: Rpm limit.. it seems that @ 24psi began loosing power beyond 6500rpm. Did you replace the valve springs as from April 20 session? just a thought

Good luck !

djgab101
04-28-2010, 04:10 AM
wow thats amazing.. i hope i go boost one day! even if i get 160hp i will be so happy!!

Rikster
04-28-2010, 10:20 AM
how fast does it go from 0 to 60mph? :D

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 11:09 AM
^ don't know yet, seems pretty fast :smile:

Parmas, I believe that is the log manifold holding us back at 24 psi and above, and not the springs. I think we are near the end of the T28 efficiency, but I'm not ready to move up to a T30 quite yet.

Parmas
04-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Parmas, I believe that is the log manifold holding us back at 24 psi and above, and not the springs. I think we are near the end of the T28 efficiency, but I'm not ready to move up to a T30 quite yet.

I agree not to move up to a T30 turbo since you will probably need to modify the exhuast manifold.

What log manifold are you referring to?

BTW what transmission model are you using?

kngrsll
04-28-2010, 11:58 AM
geeez if anything, id say that TOO much power! I can imagine anything much over 200 whp would start making track days a difficult experience.

what kind of axles are you using? Anything special done to the transmission? Are you still sticking to autox? what about full track days?

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 01:43 PM
I can imagine anything much over 200 whp would start making track days a difficult experience.

no way, it's great fun.

Axles are fortified by Drive Shaft Shop. Transmission is stock USDM 5-speed.

For autocross, I'll use low boost at 14 psi. Low/high boost is on a switch on my dash. High boost for road coarse, drag racing, and anyone that wants to (safely) mess with me on the street. :biggrin:

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 01:44 PM
Parmas, this is my manifold. An equal-length tube manifold could recapture some of the mid-range torque I lost, and make more power all around. Definitely on the list of things to do in the future.

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/turbokit/manifold-jethot1.jpg

PETERPOOP
04-28-2010, 01:58 PM
and anyone that wants to (safely) mess with me on the street. :biggrin:

:headbang:

redglare45
04-28-2010, 01:59 PM
357!!!...congrats Garm! :thumbsup:

Parmas
04-28-2010, 02:04 PM
Parmas, this is my manifold. An equal-length tube manifold could recapture some of the mid-range torque I lost, and make more power all around. Definitely on the list of things to do in the future.

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/garm/turbokit/manifold-jethot1.jpg

I have mine for sale if you want ... at least yours weighs less :smile:

Is your transmission a C54 or a C150?

kngrsll
04-28-2010, 02:06 PM
no way, it's great fun.

Axles are fortified by Drive Shaft Shop. Transmission is stock USDM 5-speed.

For autocross, I'll use low boost at 14 psi. Low/high boost is on a switch on my dash. High boost for road coarse, drag racing, and anyone that wants to (safely) mess with me on the street. :biggrin:

Im not real familiar with fwd's still... what does that mean to fortify your front axles?

how does that low/high switch work? change ecu settings and valve settings on the wastegate?? thats pretty sweet

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 02:13 PM
"fortify" means they are rebuilt to withstand more torque. I think my axles are rated to about 600 torque, but I'd have to go back and look that up to be sure.

AEM EMS is tuned with two maps and controls boost, fuel, timing, water pump, radiator fans, water/meth, cold-start routine, rev limit, speed limit, anti-lag for launching, etc.

low switch: 14 psi, no water/meth. High switch: 24 psi, water/meth on, different map removing extra fuel to account for water/meth, etc.

suckerface
04-28-2010, 02:37 PM
Out of random curiosity, how's your fuel efficiency with this setup?

127.0.0.1
04-28-2010, 03:04 PM
what kind of cars do you blow away on the road/highway in those
'pretend races' (stop light stuff) ?

should you ...ya know....stomp it and the other person stomps theirs ?

or do you never do that....

jusr for reference vs other stock cars nowadays. must be able to drop
a lot of cars.

cali yaris
04-28-2010, 03:44 PM
I haven't measured miles for a tank yet -- probably pretty good still if I baby it.

Always fun to keep up with or beat the STI's, Mustang GT's, Corvettes and such. Porsche, Ferrari, and other exotics are a little tougher.

That is, IF I did that kind of thing.

127.0.0.1
04-28-2010, 03:54 PM
I haven't measured miles for a tank yet -- probably pretty good still if I baby it.

Always fun to keep up with or beat the STI's, Mustang GT's, Corvettes and such. Porsche, Ferrari, and other exotics are a little tougher.

That is, IF I did that kind of thing.

holy crap that is what I thought. mustangs, vettes...

I had a Renault R5 turbo 1 [with added mods to push it from
about 170 to 207 hp] one two-year period. fugger was fast.

I can -almost- imagine 100 more HP on a little car. dang

CarBob08
04-29-2010, 01:56 AM
Those are some impressive numbers. Keep up the good work Garm.

scioncrew
04-29-2010, 02:11 AM
hey i found your upgrade
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_705330_1.htm
get me an exhaust flange and i will make a new manifold..

scioncrew
04-29-2010, 02:12 AM
sorry!! just making sure you see this lol

cali yaris
04-29-2010, 11:00 AM
link broken? I can get you a flange.

suckerface
04-29-2010, 04:11 PM
@Garm> Haven't seen one yet, but do you by chance have audio/video of what your ride sounds like? I'd love to hear it...

YarisPR
04-29-2010, 06:21 PM
I sooooooo wanna meet that Yaris and well Garm too if he's around LOL :bellyroll:

cali yaris
04-30-2010, 01:48 AM
dyno pull at 24 psi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVtXjKUUPI

suckerface
05-01-2010, 04:40 PM
oh man garm, that sounds HOT! I love the whine of a nice turbo! :)

The Spectacle
05-07-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm impressed. In for later. Want to see vids of some pulls on the street.

talnlnky
05-07-2010, 06:05 PM
I want to see a 1/4mile vid against a v8 equiped car now, or some spendy exotics... hahaha. Have multiple angles.. show how small the yaris is compared to the american car. I feel a movie appearance coming... 2micro 2image or maybe The Fast and the Garm

SilverBack
05-07-2010, 06:39 PM
I feel a movie appearance coming... 2micro 2image or maybe The Fast and the Garm

LOL... Or we could go with one of those generic movie names from the 40's and 50's. Something like "The Great White Underdog" :biggrin:

rob323
05-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Garm, are you still running stock cams, or aftermarket ones?
Are you controlling the cam timing through the ecu or is it just locked in place?

bzinn 1
07-04-2010, 02:12 AM
I haven't measured miles for a tank yet -- probably pretty good still if I baby it.

Always fun to keep up with or beat the STI's, Mustang GT's, Corvettes and such. Porsche, Ferrari, and other exotics are a little tougher.

That is, IF I did that kind of thing.

I would so love to see Cali do a rolling launch against a nice Evo or Sti.....and smoke them to the point they felt awe and shame all in one.......incredable car.......autox would be really fun in that for sure.

firemachine69
07-04-2010, 03:45 AM
Launching this thing off a highway ramp has GOT to be an assload of fun. :biggrin:

cali yaris
07-04-2010, 04:43 PM
^ yes, it sure is!

rob, stock cams, vvt-i controlled by the AEM EMS (AEM had to modify the box to enable this control)

I want to see a 1/4mile vid against a v8 equiped car now

me vs. a GTO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HszS1X-wD6Q

MANSETH
07-06-2010, 11:56 PM
:respekt:

pimp my yaris
07-07-2010, 09:06 AM
What kind of engine internals are you runing cali yaris? ie:crank,rods,pistons

cali yaris
07-07-2010, 10:27 AM
rather than re-post it, here's a link the build thread:
http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/showthread.php/19-Garm-s-turbo-project