Tired of expensive parts from stealership

[polar_white]

Hi, can anyone recommend a good shop/mechanic in the Toronto/Markham/Scarborough areas? I need to replace my air filter and cabin filter but stealership is charging them 25 + 55 for both... well this is if they are even telling me the truth and not showing me some fake dirty filters in the first place..... anyways, my car has just gone over 40,000 KM and is almost 3 years old. I would love to change them myself if I know how to (and where to buy the parts), but I have two Yaris and I would really like to stick to a trustworthy shop that I can go to do all my other maintenance works in the future... A simple oil change at stealership is almost reaching $50 bucks now... arrrggh


Any suggestion?

Thanks,

[Betrivent]

Got a napa or something around there? Also, cabin air filter can be home made. Get a big home-use air filter, cut it up, tape off the end, and you're set with enough filters for the life of the car

[M4One]

If you go to the DIY section, there's a DIY to make a cheap cabin air filter. I also remember seeing a thread about someone finding a cheap place online to buy the cabin filter. Not sure if they ship to Canada, though. As for air filter, what about Canadian Tire or Lordco if you got one. Sorry, not too sure about the price, but you could look it up on CT's website.

[thebarber]

search the toronto section on matrixowners.com

there are a lot of guys in the GTA and i know ive seen posts of where to go and not to go in the toronto area

[Betrivent]

If you go to the DIY section, there's a DIY to make a cheap cabin air filter. I also remember seeing a thread about someone finding a cheap place online to buy the cabin filter. Not sure if they ship to Canada, though. As for air filter, what about Canadian Tire or Lordco if you got one. Sorry, not too sure about the price, but you could look it up on CT's website.

Lordco is BC based unfortunately.

[M4One]

Okay, this is the site: http://www.logical-source.com. It looks like they do ship to Canada, but you better e-mail them to make sure. The cabin air filter was $5.53.

[polar_white]

Okay, this is the site: http://www.logical-source.com. It looks like they do ship to Canada, but you better e-mail them to make sure. The cabin air filter was $5.53.

wow seriously, when they show me those filters, I can't believe they are charging $50 bucks for the cabin filter and $25 for air filter, they seem only cost less than few bucks to make.... I understand there is the labour cost, but wtf, ESPECIALLY that they already spent their time to take them out for inspection, why not charge the customer with a reasonable price???

I just dont understand how these dealers have the guts to ask these ridiculous price :mad:

[polar_white]

Okay, this is the site: http://www.logical-source.com. It looks like they do ship to Canada, but you better e-mail them to make sure. The cabin air filter was $5.53.

Thank you for this link, I can't believe they only sell this for $5.53....too bad they are out of stock for Engine Air Filter, I wonder how much that is..

now question is, if i bought the parts and bring it with me to my next oil change, I wonder how much they will charge me for replacing them? hahaha...

[127.0.0.1]

Thank you for this link, I can't believe they only sell this for $5.53....too bad they are out of stock for Engine Air Filter, I wonder how much that is..

now question is, if i bought the parts and bring it with me to my next oil change, I wonder how much they will charge me for replacing them? hahaha...


if you can tie your own shoes
you can replace both of these filters yourself

[monkey28]

They didn't charge you labour for air filter, the part itself is $25 already, $35 for carbin filter + labour to replace +$50.

Rememer, when you walk into dealership, everything you see and people that serve you are costing their money (reception, advisor, tech, carwash and electricity...etc).

[yarrr]

QUESTION:
I just dont understand how these dealers have the guts to ask these ridiculous price :mad:

ANSWER:

now question is, if i bought the parts and bring it with me to my next oil change, I wonder how much they will charge me for replacing them? hahaha...


You almost learned a lesson

[M4One]

Polar White, if you haven't already bought the filter from the website, I've got an ebay auction for both the engine filter and cabin filter for just over $23 Canadian shipped. At least, that's what I paid for. The link is: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120521431129&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[white_rice]

Polar White, if you haven't already bought the filter from the website, I've got an ebay auction for both the engine filter and cabin filter for just over $23 Canadian shipped. At least, that's what I paid for. The link is: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120521431129&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I'm interested in purchasing these from you as well. I see that you live in Vancouver, however the seller location on that specific auction is Laguna Hills, California? Are you the 'AIRCABINMAN' or did you just locate this auction online?

Cheers.

[M4One]

No, I'm not the seller. This thread got me to thinking that it was probably time for me to change my engine/cabin filter and I thought, why not try ebay. I was probably going to buy from the other site I pointed out to, but shipping was actually doubled of what the actual cost of the cabin filter itself. I was probably going to buy from them anyways before turning to ebay. Rereading my post, I guess I wrote it like I was the seller.

[polar_white]

Polar White, if you haven't already bought the filter from the website, I've got an ebay auction for both the engine filter and cabin filter for just over $23 Canadian shipped. At least, that's what I paid for. The link is: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120521431129&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Hi M4One, thanks for the link, I just bought 2 sets from this seller. Everything include shipping and duty (is there duty charge for buying on ebay and ship to Canada?) is probably just under $50. Can you say wow, the dealer was charging $50 bucks for replacing only the cabin filter... now that's some amazing saving.

So how long did it take for him to ship the item to you? Thanks,

[M4One]

I didn't get hit with duty. I've never been hit with duty on my ebay purchases, but they've rarely been too expensive and most of the time the seller puts it down as a gift or something like that to get around it. They arrived in about a week. The air filter is taller than the original, but fits. At first I just popped it in but the cover wouldn't fit. Then, I realized that one of the corners is squared or rounded. Flipped it over and perfect.

[white_rice]

I just placed my order with this eBay seller so I will let you know my thoughts afterwards as well.

Thanks!

[white_rice]

I just wanted to update this thread and say the my filters arrived safely in the mail yesterday from AIRCABINMAN. Although they are a no name brand (not even labelled) they both fit perfectly in place, and after looking at my stock cabin air filter after ~2 years it was definitely due time to replace! :)

A definite 2 thumbs up to the eBay seller, especially both for $23.50 CAD shipped.

[darkmoon87]

I just wanted to update this thread and say the my filters arrived safely in the mail yesterday from AIRCABINMAN. Although they are a no name brand (not even labelled) they both fit perfectly in place, and after looking at my stock cabin air filter after ~2 years it was definitely due time to replace! :)

A definite 2 thumbs up to the eBay seller, especially both for $23.50 CAD shipped.

thanks for the update. i will definately look into using him.

[polar_white]

here is my update,

I also bought the filters from AIRCABINMAN. Neither of my engine filter and cabin filter has been replaced since I bought the car 3 years ago. Just like white rice said, they do not have any brand name or labels on it, but their size is identical as the original toyota filters. I've also noticed that the no brand filters feel much "lighter" then the original. Perhaps the material is different?

Also, to my surprise, my cabin filter looks MUCH MUCH dirtier than the engine filter, not sure why... The engine filter didn't look so bad, but I replaced it anyway...

[toy_toronto]

It could just be in the U.S., but I saw a thread somewhere that some Yaris ship from the dealerships without an air cabin filter?


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[MUSKOKA800]

I really should check my cabin filter. With 70,000 kl over two+ years it's likely done.

I bought a K&N air filter when the car was new. Got it on sale at AutoZone for about $40.00. I slip the still clean OEM filter in while cleaning and drying the K&N.
Also, I bought a case (10 lot) of OEM oil filters from Connecilli Toyota (through eBay). It worked out to ~$5.00 per filter mailed to home. These are ~$8.50 at Ontario stealerships.

[Bluevitz-rs]

I really should check my cabin filter. With 70,000 kl over two+ years it's likely done.

I bought a K&N air filter when the car was new. Got it on sale at AutoZone for about $40.00. I slip the still clean OEM filter in while cleaning and drying the K&N.
Also, I bought a case (10 lot) of OEM oil filters from Connecilli Toyota (through eBay). It worked out to ~$5.00 per filter mailed to home. These are ~$8.50 at Ontario stealerships.

A little late now, but be warned that the oiled engine air filters is the main cause of the the MAF meters to get dirty and fail. It's caused by the microscopic droplets of oil depositing on the hot wire inside the MAF meter causing a buildup and eventually cause it to fail.

[MUSKOKA800]

A little late now, but be warned that the oiled engine air filters is the main cause of the the MAF meters to get dirty and fail. It's caused by the microscopic droplets of oil depositing on the hot wire inside the MAF meter causing a buildup and eventually cause it to fail.

I'm not sure this isn't one of those internet legends type stories possibly started from a single MAF failure possibly related to a filter. :iono: K&N's require maintanence which is easy to forget/neglect as the miles roll by.

I've used oiled K&N filters in a '88 Mustang GT (75,000 kl. until stolen) and for close to 250,000 kilometers in a Turbo Talon with zero MAF issues on either vehicle. I have approx. 65,000 uneventful kl. on the one in my Yaris now.
My only definite is that I've saved hundreds of dollars by never buying replace OEM style paper intake filter elements.

[thebarber]

I'm not sure this isn't one of those internet legends type stories possibly started from a single MAF failure possibly related to a filter. :iono: K&N's require maintanence which is easy to forget/neglect as the miles roll by.

I've used oiled K&N filters in a '88 Mustang GT (75,000 kl. until stolen) and for close to 250,000 kilometers in a Turbo Talon with zero MAF issues on either vehicle. I have approx. 65,000 uneventful kl. on the one in my Yaris now.
My only definite is that I've saved hundreds of dollars by never buying replace OEM style paper intake filter elements.

im in the same boat

used in my xrs, in my yaris and in my aveo....never had problems with oil on the MAF

[Bluevitz-rs]

I've seen failed MAF sensors with my own two eyes. Mostly caused by OVER oiled filters, or cleaning them too much.

But no matter what air filter you use the MAF will eventually get dirty and need to be cleaned. It's just the ones that used a oiled filters that get perma-dirty because the oil builds up on the hot wire (200°F) creating a carbon "blanket" on the wire.

[white_rice]

Makes sense I suppose but I agree that the oiled re-usable filters save a bundle of cash in the long run. It is very easy to clean the MAFS when needed with some throttle body cleaner.