Successful Gauge Cluster Swap

[kac]

:smile: I'm happy about this mod. It looks great and it works well!!! :smile:

Old cluster:
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp114/zackaxxx/CIMG0909.jpg

New cluster:
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp114/zackaxxx/CIMG0911.jpg

I've got a 2009 USDM 3dr liftback. The new cluster is from a 2008 Canadian liftback.

Bought it on eBay, and it works great (including and especially the tach).

Yes, WarMachine is the guardian of the gauge cluster.

[kac]

yes, I'm using KM now. My next oil change is due at approximately 64940KM.

My car actually has 31867 KM on it not 64320. So when I calculate my "milage" I will always have to subtract 32,453 KM

[ezhacker1]

wow finding one on ebay huh? how much.

[kac]

$49.94 shipped to my doorset from Canada. Didn't have any trouble finding one at all. Just have to be willing to put a 2008 cluster into a 2009 yaris. :smile:

[Betrivent]

I don';t even understand how you guys can drive manual WITHOUT a tach

[MadMax]

I don';t even understand how you guys can drive manual WITHOUT a tach

Really? I drove manuals for years, and never looked at the tach. I shifted more on "feel" rather than what the instruments were saying...

But since I've moved on to an auto, it's even easier; but even then, I still tend to shift my auto a lot!

Cheers! M2

[kac]

I don';t even understand how you guys can drive manual WITHOUT a tach

My first car was a Honda Civic with a 5-speed and no tach... I've had this yaris for a year without a tach... but the last few hours with a tach have been more fun.

[ezhacker1]

yeah i see at least 1 on ebay, but im still happy with the price i paid for my S Cluster in miles

[Meteorite_Marty]

Living in Canada, I got the same guage cluster as stock. I really love it, and the white LEDs look so nice. It looks so much better than the orange.

I like the look so much, that I did the rest of my dash lighting (heater/ac, transmission, radio, window controls, door locks) in white LED to match.

Good choice on the swap!!!

[Betrivent]

I can shift by the feel too, but it's so weird the concept driving manual without a tach :)

[auxmike]

Is it legal to do this?
Will the old pod still read where it left off and make it look as though your car has low milage?

[Meteorite_Marty]

Is it legal to do this?
Will the old pod still read where it left off and make it look as though your car has low milage?

Yah, good question. You have way different mileage on the each of the clusters.

[yaris2010RS]

Is it legal to do this?
Will the old pod still read where it left off and make it look as though your car has low milage?
nope, this is very illegal. the car now will have no memory of ur prevous reading. stay away from dealerships and cars inspections or u can get screwed over. other thing is when i had an extra dash (i never tried it) but it appeares the display section can be swapped (mine is a '10 and the other was anytime from the beginning of time to '09) i dont know if it would carry over the reading or not, or keep reading for that matter. also something i heard was there is a way to swap the reading from km to mi. how i do not know but thats how i understood it.

Living in Canada, I got the same guage cluster as stock. I really love it, and the white LEDs look so nice. It looks so much better than the orange.

I like the look so much, that I did the rest of my dash lighting (heater/ac, transmission, radio, window controls, door locks) in white LED to match.

Good choice on the swap!!!
as for you.....WTF, Y DID U GET WHITE! lol, i didn't realize the 08's came white. mine is stupid ugly fugly gay orange and now i need to work to change (apparently) 50ish wedge LEDs, lol. now i will jsut look into getting a canadian white dash......

[kac]

Haven't seen any car inspectors in my lifetime so I'll try and keep it that way. Super easy to swap back in the stock cluster if need be, and no-one has to know this one was in it (except you guys...).

[yaris2010RS]

Haven't seen any car inspectors in my lifetime so I'll try and keep it that way. Super easy to swap back in the stock cluster if need be, and no-one has to know this one was in it (except you guys...).

i was gonna do that, keep my millage low on one cluster and add it to the other but i thought about it and between calculating interval for oil change and pain in the ass to keep swapping it out, i didn't find it worth it (also since my car is new i do all the servicing at the dealer, they could possibally give me one more headache.

other thing to keep in mind(in canada at least) when u renew ur ownership every year u write down ur millage and the government keeps it on file....

[kac]

Yeah I don't have any of that write down my milage stuff. And I do not plan on putting the stock cluster back in any time soon at all. I've got milage calculated in KM now to know when my oil change intervals are, and I do all my own servicing, and if there is something I don't know how to do I seek the help of a friendly mechanic, not a dealership, so I should be good.

[Kioshi]

do it, kilomters is fun. I'm running an RS cluster, did one early oil change, and now I am set...every 8000kilomters for oil change.

And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~

If you are driving the car down to the ground, who cares...free to do whatever you feel like w/ it. And if trade-in time comes, they can send the cluster to a company and have them calibrate to correct engine miles..it's a win-win deal, as long as you are honest as possible w/ the people~~

[ezhacker1]

And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~


Really? Lol the entire San Francisco to LA trip and back was on my stock cluster. Well doesnt matter, my "real" mileage is still way under the warranty miles per year.

[Kioshi]

Big O tires told me that when i went to put my rims on, and the toyota rep said the same...

[yaris2010RS]

And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~



really? i was told they could not.....

[IllusionX]

i was gonna do that, keep my millage low on one cluster and add it to the other but i thought about it and between calculating interval for oil change and pain in the ass to keep swapping it out, i didn't find it worth it (also since my car is new i do all the servicing at the dealer, they could possibally give me one more headache.

other thing to keep in mind(in canada at least) when u renew ur ownership every year u write down ur millage and the government keeps it on file....

Each province is different i guess. Registration renewal does not require the mileage to be written down here. The only time the "approx" mileage is given to the registrations (SAAQ in Quebec) is when you sell the car. Then the mileage you TOLD them is written down the system. When the next time the car is sold, well, either you lie or the cluster is not right, they will know.

Either way, it is illegal to roll back the mileage on the cluster to convince someone the car has less mileage than it actually has. Nothing stops you from having a 19k km cluster on a 230k km car at the time it is being sold.. You cannot hide the fact the car has 230k.

[AlainMikli]

$49.94 shipped to my doorset from Canada. Didn't have any trouble finding one at all. Just have to be willing to put a 2008 cluster into a 2009 yaris. :smile:

what color is the back light of the 08 one? I'm veeeery interested to get one:cry::cry::cry:

[kac]

what color is the back light of the 08 one? I'm veeeery interested to get one:cry::cry::cry:

Is there not a picture on my first post? The 2008 canadian model gauge cluster with the tach lights up with white LED's.

[Kioshi]

^ there is...since its white, might be hard for some to see~

Good job on finding it. I couldn't find one, so i went RS.

[ezhacker1]

i might change my dash lights to red, more evil looking.

[AlainMikli]

Is there not a picture on my first post? The 2008 canadian model gauge cluster with the tach lights up with white LED's.

Oh, I thought you didn't turn on the light yet, I supposed it should be green or orange:tongue:

[N9QGS]

I had no clue the actual instrument cluster housed the mileage of the vehicle? I thought it would have pulled it from an external computer.... So does this mean if you unplug your instrument cluster and drive by GPS, you can keep low mileage on your instrument cluster??? seems way to easy for people to mess around. Ron

[kac]

Does seem too easy.... but I'm pretty sure it is that easy.

Takes less than a minute to take it out too. Pull off three things that are just clipped in, and then remove two screws.

[Torito The Nazi]

hey guys ive always anted to do that conversions how did u do it is it plug and play or what does it needs any wiring diagrams or something pleasee tell me

[Meteorite_Marty]

Why not use the original cluster until you reach the mileage reading of the second cluster? Then when you swap, the number for the mileage reading is accurate.

[kac]

Marty, in my case I'd have to drive for over a year to catch up with the new cluster.... so that's not happening.

[shinlee]

I've driven for about 13 years without a tach on manuals. It's a better way to drive, since I think I feel the car better and am more in tune with it

[Meteorite_Marty]

Marty, in my case I'd have to drive for over a year to catch up with the new cluster.... so that's not happening.

Its not THAT long. I'd do it.

[Astroman]

Hm, I was under the impression from prior threads the gauge cluster would pull the mileage from the cars computer. Was I correct or is this because it's metric vs. standard?

[kustom play]

Haven't seen any car inspectors in my lifetime so I'll try and keep it that way. Super easy to swap back in the stock cluster if need be, and no-one has to know this one was in it (except you guys...).

yea and your mileage is off which is going to throw an odometer fraud flag. On our AZ titles there is a section that you have to mark if the miles don't match the cluster. It raises an odometer fraud warning written on the title. I know its required to give mileage when the car goes in for inspection to renew the reg. This is the reason why i never swapped my cluster. Dont want my resale value tanking to worthless when the title is flagged for odometer fraud.

[Rikster]

the usdm version never came with a digital cluster (speedometer,tachometer) right?

[CTScott]

Hm, I was under the impression from prior threads the gauge cluster would pull the mileage from the cars computer. Was I correct or is this because it's metric vs. standard?

No. It turns out that the odo data is only stored in the cluster. Also, the only switchable clusters for km vs miles is the JDM digital one (the Australian one can't, and I am not sure yet about the European digital ones).

[DeathBeard]

do you know the name of the company on ebay? Ive been hunting this down awhile..looks great